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Post 70's Prog World Cup: Pendragon-Opeth

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Topic: Post 70's Prog World Cup: Pendragon-Opeth
Posted By: Morningrise
Subject: Post 70's Prog World Cup: Pendragon-Opeth
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 00:06
Pick your favorite.
 
World Cup so far:
 
 
Deadline for this poll: October 7th



Replies:
Posted By: Billy Pilgrim
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 01:04
Opeth! Please please Opeth!!!


Posted By: zbida
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 01:35
Am I The Last Man On Earth voting for Pendragon?


Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 03:13
another vote for Pendragon...


Posted By: Atoms
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 03:28
Opeth, not even a contest.


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 03:37
Opeth

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Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 04:30
Pendragon for me. Had Opeth lost their need to growl earlier and made more albums like their most recent one it would have been a much harder choice for me to make. I enjoy beauty, drama, passion and melody in music. Some guy trying to sound like a demon belching just doesn't do it for me and thankfully the growlers are proving to be a dying breed as the musicians who can play mature beyond the fad.

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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 05:17
Opeth for me. Great musicians doing great music, unlike the other.
 


Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 05:40
An obvious Opeth. Pendragon is good and all, but not nearly as good as something that is not nearly as good as Opeth.

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 06:12
Pendragon, they've got more high quality albums even if nothing of theirs beats Blackwater Park.

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Posted By: PabstRibbon
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 06:12
Originally posted by Andyman1125 Andyman1125 wrote:

An obvious Opeth. Pendragon is good and all, but not nearly as good as something that is not nearly as good as Opeth.


Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 06:24
Pendragon.

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Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 06:51
Pendragon, oh god Pendragon. Please be Pendragon. How could anyone not vote for Pendragon. 100% Pendragon. If Pendragon don't win this round I will revert to a state of comatose for the next 60 years.

Having said that, I love Opeth, but guys? Pendragon!

Originally posted by DavetheSlave DavetheSlave wrote:

Pendragon for me. Had Opeth lost their need to growl earlier and made more albums like their most recent one it would have been a much harder choice for me to make. I enjoy beauty, drama, passion and melody in music. Some guy trying to sound like a demon belching just doesn't do it for me and thankfully the growlers are proving to be a dying breed as the musicians who can play mature beyond the fad.

Also I am fed up of this boring opinion. Go away.


Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 07:04
Not two of my faves, but I have really enjoyed some Opeth's things while I feel Pendragon as just another Genesis fashioned neoprog band.

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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 07:58
Originally posted by DavetheSlave DavetheSlave wrote:

Pendragon for me. Had Opeth lost their need to growl earlier and made more albums like their most recent one it would have been a much harder choice for me to make. I enjoy beauty, drama, passion and melody in music. Some guy trying to sound like a demon belching just doesn't do it for me and thankfully the growlers are proving to be a dying breed as the musicians who can play mature beyond the fad.


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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 08:09
 
Originally posted by DavetheSlave DavetheSlave wrote:

Pendragon for me. Had Opeth lost their need to growl earlier and made more albums like their most recent one it would have been a much harder choice for me to make. I enjoy beauty, drama, passion and melody in music. Some guy trying to sound like a demon belching just doesn't do it for me and thankfully the growlers are proving to be a dying breed as the musicians who can play mature beyond the fad.


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Just to say: in "Day Sixteen:Loser" from Ayreon's The Human Equation there's a growler. He represents the father of the main character, not a bleeching demon. I suggest you to try to approach the things with the mind more open. I can't stand with growlers and screamers or also guitar solos when they are not essential to the music, like the percussions in today's pop-dance. But if you can't stand with growl at all, you should be disturbed by Nick Mason on "One Of This Days" or by Pete Townsend on "Boris The Spider"


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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 08:25
Originally posted by JS19 JS19 wrote:

Pendragon, oh god Pendragon. Please be Pendragon. How could anyone not vote for Pendragon. 100% Pendragon. If Pendragon don't win this round I will revert to a state of comatose for the next 60 years.

Having said that, I love Opeth, but guys? Pendragon!

Originally posted by DavetheSlave DavetheSlave wrote:

Pendragon for me. Had Opeth lost their need to growl earlier and made more albums like their most recent one it would have been a much harder choice for me to make. I enjoy beauty, drama, passion and melody in music. Some guy trying to sound like a demon belching just doesn't do it for me and thankfully the growlers are proving to be a dying breed as the musicians who can play mature beyond the fad.

Also I am fed up of this boring opinion. Go away.
It is a valid opinion, and I feel exactly the same way.  I enjoy Opeth musically but I can do without the Cookie Monster vocals. 

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Posted By: Shevrzl
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 08:40
Opeth doesn't really does it for me, and the vocals are definitely not helping. Pendie easily.


Posted By: DanthraX
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 08:46
Well in the groups round IQ kicked Opeth's ass, so it's not crazy that Pendragon is giving a hard battle here too, although I think Opeth is gonna win this...

As for the bands, I can't stand the cookie monster voice too (I'm enjoying Heritage A LOT), so I'll vote for Pendie...

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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 08:50
Opeth!!!!

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 09:04
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by JS19 JS19 wrote:

Pendragon, oh god Pendragon. Please be Pendragon. How could anyone not vote for Pendragon. 100% Pendragon. If Pendragon don't win this round I will revert to a state of comatose for the next 60 years.

Having said that, I love Opeth, but guys? Pendragon!

Originally posted by DavetheSlave DavetheSlave wrote:

Pendragon for me. Had Opeth lost their need to growl earlier and made more albums like their most recent one it would have been a much harder choice for me to make. I enjoy beauty, drama, passion and melody in music. Some guy trying to sound like a demon belching just doesn't do it for me and thankfully the growlers are proving to be a dying breed as the musicians who can play mature beyond the fad.

Also I am fed up of this boring opinion. Go away.
It is a valid opinion, and I feel exactly the same way.  I enjoy Opeth musically but I can do without the Cookie Monster vocals. 

Most fans of growls on here dont have a problem with other people not liking them, its all personal taste after all, Its the "thankfully the growlers are proving to be a dying breed as the musicians who can play mature beyond the fad" part that people get fed up with, as its pathetically imature. 


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Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 09:18
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by JS19 JS19 wrote:

Pendragon, oh god Pendragon. Please be Pendragon. How could anyone not vote for Pendragon. 100% Pendragon. If Pendragon don't win this round I will revert to a state of comatose for the next 60 years.

Having said that, I love Opeth, but guys? Pendragon!

Originally posted by DavetheSlave DavetheSlave wrote:

Pendragon for me. Had Opeth lost their need to growl earlier and made more albums like their most recent one it would have been a much harder choice for me to make. I enjoy beauty, drama, passion and melody in music. Some guy trying to sound like a demon belching just doesn't do it for me and thankfully the growlers are proving to be a dying breed as the musicians who can play mature beyond the fad.

Also I am fed up of this boring opinion. Go away.
It is a valid opinion, and I feel exactly the same way.  I enjoy Opeth musically but I can do without the Cookie Monster vocals. 

Most fans of growls on here dont have a problem with other people not liking them, its all personal taste after all, Its the "thankfully the growlers are proving to be a dying breed as the musicians who can play mature beyond the fad" part that people get fed up with, as its pathetically imature. 

Exactly. If you don't like them, fine, there are a lot of things I don't like. What I don't do, however, is constantly ridicule those things, moan about them every single time they are mentioned, and go out of my way to devalue the opinion of everyone who likes said thing. 

It's just pathetic, as you said.


Posted By: TheClosing
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 12:10
I honestly don't like death metal vocals either, but to say it's a "fad" is pretty dense considering the technique has been around for about thirty years now. 


Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 12:25
Pendragon, without any hesitation.

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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 13:04
Opeth

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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 13:20
I can't believe I'm doing this, but I'm voting for the neo-proggers.

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Posted By: ColonelClaypool
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 13:39
Easily Opeth for me, what I've heard from Pendragon has been unimpressive.

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Posted By: Thandrus
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 13:59
I love both bands but... PENDRAGON!


Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 14:27
I don't really like either, except Damnation was beautiful.

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Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 15:43
How are they tied?? Opeth by a million times


Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 15:46
Huh, I had the idea that Opeth would slaughter Pendragon. I guess growls annoy more people than I thought.

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Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 15:48
Originally posted by Andyman1125 Andyman1125 wrote:

Huh, I had the idea that Opeth would slaughter Pendragon. I guess growls annoy more people than I thought.

Not at all. Pendragon are just a far superior band.


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 16:32
Originally posted by Andyman1125 Andyman1125 wrote:

Huh, I had the idea that Opeth would slaughter Pendragon. I guess growls annoy more people than I thought.

Pendragon have a lot of fans, and I'm not the only one thats been disappointed by recent output from Opeth.


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Posted By: njb0168
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 17:04
Gotta be hasta be The Pendies!!!


Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 17:49
Originally posted by DavetheSlave DavetheSlave wrote:

Pendragon for me. Had Opeth lost their need to growl earlier and made more albums like their most recent one it would have been a much harder choice for me to make. I enjoy beauty, drama, passion and melody in music. Some guy trying to sound like a demon belching just doesn't do it for me and thankfully the growlers are proving to be a dying breed as the musicians who can play mature beyond the fad.
 


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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 17:58
Originally posted by Sheavy Sheavy wrote:

Originally posted by DavetheSlave DavetheSlave wrote:

Pendragon for me. Had Opeth lost their need to growl earlier and made more albums like their most recent one it would have been a much harder choice for me to make. I enjoy beauty, drama, passion and melody in music. Some guy trying to sound like a demon belching just doesn't do it for me and thankfully the growlers are proving to be a dying breed as the musicians who can play mature beyond the fad.
 


I know, right?


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Posted By: PabstRibbon
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 18:40
Can't believe Opeth is loosing atm !!!!Censored


Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 18:42
You can't beat neo-prog k


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 18:51
lol


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 18:58
Stern Smile


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 19:34
Alex you deleted the lulsy post now it looks like I'm laughing at nothing at all


Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 19:35
What was wrong with Slaught's post? 


Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 21:49
Argh.  I cannot decide.  I only got in to Pendragon this year, and have only their three latest, but I've grown to like them very much.  But Opeth is great as well...  Argh.  What can convince me to vote one way or the other?

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Posted By: MFP
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 21:49

Opeth



Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 21:58
Opeth by astronomical units.


Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 21:58
Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

Argh.  I cannot decide.  I only got in to Pendragon this year, and have only their three latest, but I've grown to like them very much.  But Opeth is great as well...  Argh.  What can convince me to vote one way or the other?

Opeth works with Steven Wilson Tongue


Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 23:09
I'm normally a neo-prog fanboy, but I went with Opeth. Pendragon would be much better with a dedicated vocalist IMO(not Nick Barrett). It's only the last three albums that Pendragon have grabbed my attention by shaking up their sound for the better. I just find Opeth far superior instrumentally and finally getting better vocally.

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Posted By: mayanoglu
Date Posted: October 05 2011 at 03:00
Pendragon makes more stabile music, they have the taste of the wine, their music settles down in your ears and takes you on safer journeys whereas Opeth has an adolescent and dangerous attitude trying to improve and enhance their surprisingly changing music at the expense of losing their regular followers with their newer albums. I would prefer Opeth for their courage and experimental style which I think will take prog music to different directions in the future.


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: October 05 2011 at 04:27
Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

Argh.  I cannot decide.  I only got in to Pendragon this year, and have only their three latest, but I've grown to like them very much.  But Opeth is great as well...  Argh.  What can convince me to vote one way or the other?

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Posted By: kawkaw123
Date Posted: October 05 2011 at 06:56
Opeth


Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: October 05 2011 at 12:25
Pendragon by far , got the whole collection and saw them on stage in Paris  ( and got the dvds )

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Posted By: sarahc
Date Posted: October 05 2011 at 14:03
Pendragon for me - no contest at all! Cool


Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: October 05 2011 at 16:11
I think Opeth will win. PA you disappoint me sometimes. Things like this and your Crimson obsession :P


Posted By: The Willow Farmer
Date Posted: October 05 2011 at 16:12
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

Argh.  I cannot decide.  I only got in to Pendragon this year, and have only their three latest, but I've grown to like them very much.  But Opeth is great as well...  Argh.  What can convince me to vote one way or the other?

Opeth works with Steven Wilson Tongue
Thats how I got into Opeth. I bought Still Life and never looked back. The kings of Swedish metal get my vote.


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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 05 2011 at 17:10
Originally posted by JS19 JS19 wrote:

I think Opeth will win. PA you disappoint me sometimes. Things like this and your Crimson obsession :P


PA members disappoint me sometimes. No, wait... most of the time. But not when they're obsessed with King Crimson, or whenever a neo prog band looses against any other band.


Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: October 05 2011 at 20:39
Originally posted by Anthony H. Anthony H. wrote:

Originally posted by Sheavy Sheavy wrote:

Originally posted by DavetheSlave DavetheSlave wrote:

Pendragon for me. Had Opeth lost their need to growl earlier and made more albums like their most recent one it would have been a much harder choice for me to make. I enjoy beauty, drama, passion and melody in music. Some guy trying to sound like a demon belching just doesn't do it for me and thankfully the growlers are proving to be a dying breed as the musicians who can play mature beyond the fad.
 


I know, right?
 
I even voted for Pendragon....


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Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: October 06 2011 at 07:16
Last day to vote.


Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: October 06 2011 at 07:38
Decided on Opeth, but still feel a little guilty about it.  Unhappy

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Posted By: Atoms
Date Posted: October 06 2011 at 08:25
Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

Decided on Opeth, but still feel a little guilty about it.  Unhappy

Same here, but not even close to the same amount of guilt that I would've had if I voted for a neo-prog band.


Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: October 06 2011 at 09:04
Originally posted by Atoms Atoms wrote:

Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

Decided on Opeth, but still feel a little guilty about it.  Unhappy

Same here, but not even close to the same amount of guilt that I would've had if I voted for a neo-prog band.

Head on wall


Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: October 06 2011 at 10:16

Looks like this is turning into one of those "I don't like this and that makes me so cool" threads Unhappy


Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: October 06 2011 at 11:24
^ Yeah, cause we don't have enough of those :)

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Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: October 07 2011 at 07:33
This is over.

Final score: Opeth 48- Pendragon 38


Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: October 07 2011 at 14:19
Good. 

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