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Topic: Rapture Countdown ... join the after-party!
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Subject: Rapture Countdown ... join the after-party!
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 05:55
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 06:02
9:01 PM here on May 21st, I'm not in heaven. What gives? 
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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 06:04
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Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 06:30
Welcome to the afterlife! Or after party, as it were.  ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
progkidjoel wrote:Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 06:39
"It's not so much an afterlife, more a sort of après-vie" (the not so late Arthur Dent).
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Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 06:45
For all we know it could still happen later today - and we have no idea which time zone applies to zombie jesus. ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 06:57
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The latest from New Zealand is that the true believers is still among us. ...... currently rioting in the streets, I guess. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 07:02
| Morning has barely broken the wind where I live (not even 5:00 am). There's still plenty of time for an end of the world extravaganza. |
Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 07:23
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I'm sick of all those "True Believers" making promises that they can't keep. ------------- Trust me. I know what I'm doing. |
Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 07:48
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It appears that Macho Man Randy Savage was the only one to get raptured.
Tells you something about Jesus. ------------- Trust me. I know what I'm doing. |
Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 07:55
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Noone I know has disappeared and i'm still on Earth. Hello Rapture? -------------  
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 07:55
Always loved this quote |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 08:14
Anyone know what time (GMT) this is all supposed to be kicking off? Has` it already happened? I'm supposed be going to a 40th birthday party tonight..  ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 08:16
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Apparently it is 6pm everywhere that it starts. Someone forgot to tell God.
Maybe it's 6pm at Megiddo. What time is it in The Holy Land Now? |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 08:19
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So what to expect?
Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria.. The whole shebang. |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 08:31
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Im stil crossing my fingers and hopes a supervulcano does not erupt in any near future, what if it happend today 6 klock.
what if Yellow stone said BOOOOOM -------------  
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 08:35
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Come on the pastor is American, god is American, Rapture is on American time. So wait. Either eastern time or pacific time but we have a few hours to put our business in order and gain access to heaven. And prepare our houses for zombie looting... ------------- 
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 08:37
this is a supervolcano, pretty isent it
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 09:30
I read "rupture". 
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 09:40
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I think I'm more worried about where the world is actually headed than about it ending suddenly. (though I understand the Rapture is not a "sudden" end point). ------------- ...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell" |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 09:44
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8 hours for me! Oh noes! ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 10:13
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im praying for you andyman -------------
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 11:31
loljoel didn't ascend PARTY WITH US WICKED HEATHEN I shall have a cider at 6 PM to celebrate my being left behind, but then I finally stop caring about all this BS  |
Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 11:51
 Actually, more like 6 where I'm at. |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 12:55
Someone should play the Reverse Song of Time. |
Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 14:07
But then he'd just guess again about when the world will end. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 14:16
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Hey guys I'm in heaven now. They only have Macbooks here.
------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 14:32
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It's 20:30. Nothing has happened. Except Wimbledon winning on penalties. -------------   
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Posted By: The-Bullet
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 15:26
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"Why say it cannot be done.....they'd be better doing pop songs?" |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 15:29
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I been wating all day now! what a dissapointment... gues the stupidity of religions and the ones that follow em knows no bounds. ------------- 
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Posted By: MoodyRush
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 15:31
I wonder why those radical groups continue to make those outlandish predictions about the end of the world... I sincerely doubt God would have commitioned his Bible as a math textbook, and the book even literally says that only God the Father knows when the end is...
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 15:54
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Raptors  -------------
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Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 15:55
------------- Trust me. I know what I'm doing. |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 15:56
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AW SHEIT 64 MINUTES ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 16:51
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I just saw Jesus. He told me I could still be saved if I sold all my possessions especially my black metal albums that aren't really much to his liking. But then good old Satan showed up and I had to make up my mind... At least I got to keep my Burzum albums! -------------
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 17:27
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I wasn't Raptured. :(
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 17:28
Nor I. :\ |
Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 17:30
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...and now i still have to go to work ------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 17:34
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 18:30
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Spent the rapture playing video games, I got the final kill that ended our math, moment it ended clock struck 6:00. Something great about getting the last kill of a game before we spend hell on Earth. Also the rapture was damn beautiful! what a nice day for a walk back home  |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 18:35
Didn't this false "profit" say 6pm LA time? That's about 90 mins from now. He also said NZ would get it first , well is is almost noon on the 22nd May here.
Sad F&%K ! ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 18:38
Get off the stage!
It was 6pm every time zone. http://www.livestream.com/familybibleministry" rel="nofollow - If you're online right now, this is epic. Doing a livestream about the Rapture and telling the whole internet you're taking calls? What could go wrong? ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 18:46
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1.5 hours remaining for me... I spent the day at the zoo studying sea lion behavior for a research project. Also went driving along the Columbia River Gorge to look for sea lions, but only found one, and it escaped my view. None of the animals I saw appeared overly concerned about impending doom IMO. Just to be on the safe side, I'll re-listen to "Supper's Ready" and "666" in order to achieve the right frame of mind. |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 18:49
| This livestream is hilarious. |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 18:49
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 18:49
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It's 7:41 PM.
I want my god damn rapture!
In other news,,, http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/05/while_harold_camping_sits_safe.php" rel="nofollow - http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/05/while_harold_camping_sits_safe.php
People trying to kill their children and attempting suicide because some idiot wants to increase his radio listeners and add commercial revenue? Mr. Camping should be held responsible for any deaths he caused (much like yelling "Fire!" in a theater). ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 18:58
Absolutely disgusting, these people make me sick. Gotta love their backtracking on the live show, too... 'No, no. We said the Judgement process began today!'
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 19:00
------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 19:02
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Has anyone watched that documentary yet? The guys who made it were on the News earlier. They don't believe in the silliness by the way.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 19:09
I wish I'd brought my fishing pole. I am almost positive that there was a giant sturgeon right outside Bonneville Dam because I saw it jump out of the water. Unless it was a very silvery-colored sea lion, except I never saw it resurface. It must have been taller than me.  |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 19:11
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 19:33
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This reminds me of the movie Time Bandits. Randall had been making grandiose claims that the Time Bandits were famous international criminals. Suddenly, he was proven wrong.
Kevin: Is it always like this after you've done a raid?
Fidgit: I don't know. We've never done one before.
[Long pause] Kevin: But I thought you were international criminals. Randall: Going to be. Going to be. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 19:39
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I'm pretty sure it was just a little error in the calculations... I mean, in the big scheme of things and time, pastor Camping missing the date for a day or two is still nothing short of a miracle. -------------
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 19:54
I wonder if his mistake was not using the Julian Calendar, the dating method prior to the 16th century, or if he failed to account for the differences in the Hebrew calendar and the Gregorian calendar? It must have been difficult counting back thousands years to a mythical flood. Had he read the Mesopotamian Epic of Gilgamesh (the account of the flood that was lifted to make the story of Noah), he would have had to count back even farther. He might have even referred to Tolkien's Akallabêth, which features the destruction by flood of Númenor (or, as it is translated "Atalantë"), which is a more interesting tale than the Noah fable. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 20:07
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well it's after 6 in California and unless I'm the only sin-less person in the state, it appears the Rappy-rap was, shockingly, a false prophecy .. wait-- is that an earthquake ?! ..  |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 20:14
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6:10 PM in Oregon. No apocalypse. What a horrifying waste of time and money. It just goes to show that these TV and radio evangelists are nothing more than snake-oil salesmen. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 20:28
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Have they gone yet? ------------- What? |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 20:35
Who? The 144,000 male virgin saints? Would anyone notice if they did? ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 20:37
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oh guys 144,000 like the Bible said? That is silly! Not even Camping believes that! He said it'd be 200 million that get raptured. Assuming its pretty spread out amongst the world, still not sure if it'd be a huge change. 97% shall still remain to suffer until October. |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 20:43
Besides, as far as "predicting" the date of the rapture or the apocalypse, there is the following:
Matthew 24:36 -- But about that day and hour no one knows, neither the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
Mr. Camping's got a lot of 'splaining to do with the Big G! ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 20:52
| Harold Camping...u mad bro? |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 21:05
And Camping said 200 million so take which you prefer! I believed the myth 0% just had to make sure the word of Camping was understood! I won't have people messing up his prophecy. and lolol why would you even post the "proof" against Camping? Does it really even matter? |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 21:12
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Guys chill out. The rapture is coming. Seriously. It is. I promise. ------------- 
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 21:18
 Merely pointing out that there are 144,000 virgins both very disappointed and also quite outraged that their select number is being sullied by these 199,856,000 commoners. I mean, really, saints must draw the line somewhere. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 21:22
yeah he's right, we should all get off our high-horses and show some patience.. it's coming, soonish, like Tuesday around 2:15 or whatever man.. just chill |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 21:28
That wouldn't be strange Dark Elf, you don't know how fanatic they are Since some days ago, I been helping a Protestant guy (despite our differences) in informing people about the flaws in Camping's theory, tried the scientific age of earth and of course they said science is from Satan, then found not one, but at least 10 flaws in Camping's timeline. But nothing, this people were obsessed, they simply said that I was against the Bible (Of course never said that we Catholics believe that a good part of the Genesis book is only allegoric, because Catholics are worst than killers for them).. I used literal quotes from the Bible (I don't know the Bible thatvwell, appart from Abraham, Moses, Noah and a couple more guys, my knowledge of the Old Testament is very rusty)...........No, they still said I was misreading the Bible, it was like headbanging against a wall, they believed in Camping, not in the Bible they said to believe blindly. What pisses me more is that if I found those flaws with little knowledge, I believe Harold Camping must know them and did nothing to clear them. This people have been on the road since October 2010, all of them retired or quit their jobs, some even broke with their families others more naive gave all their savings for billboards, and they believe that if they are alive on May 22 is because God left them to die an horrible death with no hope for salvation...Don't you believe some of them may take the Kool Aid? At the end I made three of them doubt, they told me they would wait for the rapture but if Camping failed they will accept it, it was enough for me to breathe with tranquility. Sadly an image is imprinted in my mind, the two kids in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8dx1ff70JI The guy is a complete fanatic, and I will never know if this two kids are OK, that's sad. But, already did what I could.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 21:30
Well, our Sun will eventually turn into a red giant star and engulf the solar system. So the end will occur in the next 5 billion years at least. I don't think that will lend the sense of urgency Mr. Camp required for his radio show, however. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 21:30
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I spent a portion of my life at a car dealership today. It appears that I am in hell. ------------- "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 21:40
Oh, but I do, Ivan. Religious fanatacism, and not merely Christian zealotry, has become endemic around the world. One of the primary reasons I am irreligious is people's fanatic wish to kill and/or die for their supposedly benevolent god. If such a god expect sacrifices like strapping bombs to yourself or slitting your children's throats, then he doesn't deserve to be worshipped. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 21:43
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Thank god for atheists. Now I know my pet will be safe after the rapture:
http://eternal-earthbound-pets.com/Home_Page.html" rel="nofollow - http://eternal-earthbound-pets.com/Home_Page.html ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 21:47
| the snake oil salesman brought in like 70 million? He's no fool---and he lives to see another day and have lot's of cash to buy things at the post rapture sales. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 21:48
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Thanks God it ended, this was exhausting, more than debating with you guys. Hope people don't do stupid things. -------------
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 22:32
I predict Toto and Dire Straits will be added to Progressive Metal on March 12, 2034. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 22:58
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The insanity of these people isn't just in picking a random date of Christ's return, but how they view the whole process. Each day isn't anything. A day is an inaccurate measurement of time. A measurement that is only of value to us here on Earth. Do they really think that a holy God outside of time will mark a calender date for man's benefit? Time doesn't matter to him, and the Bible never actually says there will be a single instant when people will be raptured. Only the Father knows, the Father whose presence cannot be fathomed by man. It's frustrating that these people get all of the news coverage. |
Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: May 21 2011 at 23:05
From the FAQ: Q: How can we trust that you'll honor your service agreement? After all, you ARE atheists. A: Being an atheist does not mean we lack morals or ethics. It just means we don't believe in God or gods. All of our representatives are normal folks who love and live for their family, are gainfully employed, and have friends of varying beliefs. Some of us are married to believers. Many of us volunteer our time at food banks, animal shelters, meals on wheels organizations, etc. We fully endorse the "Rule of Reciprocity", also known as "The Golden Rule." We just happen not to believe in God(s). Belief in God does not ensure righteousness, nor does non-belief imply immorality. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 00:44
Oh and in March 13 2034, one day after, Pat Shields is finally an Admin in PA. And Henry Plainview finally tells us his name, shows us his face, and smiles. And Robert has finally given up on beer only to get stuck on lefty wine... -------------
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Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 02:18
Are you kidding? Nothing ended, people are at least as crazy today as they were yesterday. Whenever there's a doomsday cult and nothing happens on the day the world is supposed to end, some followers lose interest, but the others get even more fanatical. They thrive on faith in concepts which have no basis in reality, which makes them easy prey for people who know how to push their buttons. 21.5.11 didn't work out? Not to worry, we'll invent some excuse, set another date in the future, and simply ignore all evidence to the contrary. Faith is a virtue, remember? By the way: Such doomsday cults are, from the standpoint of cultural evolution, crude drafts compard to "modern" religions. In Christianity for example it took only a few generations of believers to realize that in order to avoid such embarassing setbacks they had to modify their message so that it didn't include any predictions that can be falsified. People like Camping can be seen as glitches or bearers of freak mutations of the meme that is religion.
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Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 02:20
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BTW: Obviously not all Christians are dicks ... the video is poorly named. But I would say that whoever uses arguments like the one presented in the video is being a dick. ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 02:43
I surely hope that one day you'll be able to apply reason and logic to your own position, too. There is no evidence of an afterlife, and not all religions can be true. As long as you call yourself a Catholic, from my perspective you're suffering from the same problem as your protestant friend and Harold Camping are - only you probably don't let it inform your actions as much as they do. But the underlying problem is that you believe without evidence. ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 03:25
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Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 05:25
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The whole thing boils down to attention seeking. Like the attention I am seeking now, but only for the idea I am broadcasting in this post. In mr Camping's case, he is seeking attention to his own person. His own cult of personality. He is alledged 79 years old. But what he did was acting like a 79 weeks old baby (that's roughly 1.5 years old). You know; a kid sitting on it's backside on the floor, screaming out from the top of it's voice. We have all done that and we have all seen a kid like that. When a 79 weeks old baby seeks attention like that, that is perfectly natural. When a 79 years old pastor does it, it is pretty stupid and psychotic. Those grown up men attention seeking like small toddlers have a mental problem. And that's what it all boils down to here: Attention seeking. That and cult of personality. Off course Mr. Camping did not believe a word of what he said. He was just seeking attention. Just like a small toddler. For Mr Camping and the likes of him; attention is like drugs. They must get it, whatever the cost. ........ Which is pathetic (of him) beyond comprehension. thank you for your attention, btw. |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 05:48
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I think he was 89 not 79 but idunno, stil a wacko, wierdo, fearmonger or something in that manner. -------------
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 05:49
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but he does not beat Jonestown, but nothing really beats that -------------
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 06:24
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Wait wait wait Mike, are you saying you're critical of people who believe in God? ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 07:42
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The countdown has ended, the expectation goes on: 1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; - 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3, KJV I just hope that people know their Bible better before the next madman pops up. ------------- 
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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 08:10
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As many of you know I am all too experienced with this type of negativity. The reason in the first place for Jesus freak housing in Vineland and Wildwood N.J. during the 70's and 80's had to do with a cry for help. Some Devil worshippers from the west coast posed and worshipped in a church behind locked doors late at night. These were the police reports derived from a wide investigation into the murder of a boy in my school who died in a Satan ritual. The sect was not convicted due to lack of physical evidence and instead 2 teenage boys were sent to Yardville prison. Satan worship was vast in my town during 1971 and for years after that. So for some reason unknown to me Jesus freak rentals were set up all over the community to convert many of the kids off the street as a means of cleaning things up. T his was an okay move within itself however it caused things to escalate even further. "Jesus Freak" was merely a street term then....just clearing that up for those who might be offended. You had to live through what I did to understand it.
This worldly prediction we speak of in this thread was on many kid's agenda's for years. The ones who WERE converted. The place was a mess. The most moronic teachings were applied as they waited for us to leave the school after dismissal. Ridiculous preachings like...."Long hair and Black Sabbath" meant you were going to hell. Many of the special ed kids in school were already brainwashed by Satan cults , but were now brainwashed and fanatical over apocalypse and what was in store for the world. Since the police had no physical evidence to convict the real source...this was the solution made by higher ups of our community. As a result...kids took their albums and burned them, thought demons were chasing them, and preached to all those not converted about the end times. You talk about David Icke? He is pretty extreme and I agree, but in the real world it is 50 percent true and 50 percent false due to the extremist sounding stories in the press. Supposedly in the Bible....Jesus states that he himself will not know when the end times occur, but these people walked around in groups preaching that they did. I have friends from my past and in their 50's who have mental issues to this day because they were converted by so called Christians when they were too young and brain dead to make decisions on their own. Instead of studying the Bible and attending church with a healthy attitude....they just went from one cult to another. Totally annoying and quite moronic if you ask me? And the most ignorant act of all was the way they went about speaking free about the dreadful end times to little children. Shocking them to death for the end times. Rambling on and on so they could leave an impression on the child's mind! Very un-healthy for the community....I am certain. |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 08:23
you should write a book about this , a doku or a thriller/horror/psych thriller, it is a great yet terrifying history, and then you can sell the story to a hollywood producer, and make it into a Criminal Minds episode. and you will be invited as a guest at the Daily Show -------------
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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 08:30
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 08:44
just my ideas from one who lived an uninteresting life -------------
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Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 09:03
I guess so. I'm as critical of believers in God as I am of believers in homeopathy, astrology and the Loch Ness monster, Bigfoot or the Rapture. These beliefs all vary in the number and/or extent of assumptions that have no base in reality, but they all share the general principle of believing without evidence. Of course I know that you may very well think that you have all the necessary evidence - mostly from your analysis of the Bible, if I'm not mistaken - but there are many scholars who have devoted much more time to studying the Bible and have concluded that it was not divinely inspired, and it's obviously clear that no historic evidence could ever prove miracle claims (and like it or not, but Christianity depends on those claims). ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 09:16
i don't really believe in such stuff, but I like to read it, like astrology, I have learnd that it aint reliable or real, but it is stil a great read to and nice concept, I really like all myths of seamonsers and giant humanoids lurking in forests, Chuppachabras, Mothman, things that create mysteries i like becouse it is strange and ceeps my imagination up at state, I really like to have imagination (mine is quite vivid) evidence or not, sometimes one shal honour human abiliaty to think out of the box, how do you think tLotR would existed if not for the great human abilaty of imagination, Imagination is humand greatest skills, men would not have created fire or use the wheel haddent imagination bin a role in the prosess IMO (ofcourse) -------------
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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 10:11
Jesus Christ speaks to a heart, it is no character flaw. The scholars who have decided the Bible is not the Word of God are thinking with their minds and have not opened up their hearts. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 10:27
In first place, the Protestant guy (not a friend) I'm talking about, may have different theological views, but as far as I know he doesn't have a problem, he has a normal life, a family and won't give all his money to a lunatic that claims the world is ending and needs his money to put billboards. Please, don't place us in the same sack, we live our lives, without messing with anybody, religion is a part of our life but not all, we don't ask stranger for their money or even try to convince them of anything, whatever we believe in is our own problem, as long as we don't affect other people's lives or place in risk anybody. We respect other persons beliefs or disbeliefs, so how do I affect you? It's true I don't have scientific evidence, but that's a matter of faith and doesn't harm anybody. Iván
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 10:32
Well, I'm critical of people who don't get when I'm just picking on them. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 10:37
Not to get into another discussion (I'm super busy and shouldn't even be posting at all), but the bold part of your post is an overstatement. I can't recommend this book enough: http://www.amazon.com/Miracles-Exodus-Scientists-Discovery-Extraordinary/dp/0060514043" rel="nofollow - http://www.amazon.com/Miracles-Exodus-Scientists-Discovery-Extraordinary/dp/0060514043 ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 11:28
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Why is this a debate about Christianity ? This is not a matter of Christianity whatsoever. This is purely a matter of a sad old looser in USA seeking attention and getting it. On the same day, orphans in Malaysia perished in a landslide, tens of people were killed in the drug war in Mexico and the free media is fighting a battle of utmost importance for the freedom of expression on another matter. But we human beings are giving this old looser the attention he craves. Sad, sad, sad !!! |
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 11:34
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Of course I agree that it makes no sense to go through all the arguments again - especially in a thread with such a transient topic. I must comment though on the irony that you would recommend a book which deals with a myth of the old testament which was disproved even by Jewish archeologists. Historical documents can never prove a miracle claim - it's self-evident. Any other explanation is infinitely more likely than an actual miracle. Ehrman explains this using the empty tomb as an example. Consider the possibility that the tomb was robbed, or that some disciples removed the body from the tomb, or that the tomb was confused with another tomb, the body never got there etc.. Sounds unlikely? Compared to an actual miracle (the resurrection) it's much more likely.
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 12:01
| ^And, of course, like in any good party, you have the drunken discussion which is going to turn into a fist-fight. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 12:08
You're right the old creep doesn't deserve attention. This is the people who needs attention:  Robert Fitzpatrick WASTED all his life savings and pension savings in billboards (US$ 140,00.00) and has nothing, his desperation is obvious in the photo, he was looking at the watch and discovering rapture was not happening. Even more tragic, Ian McCreary  Who lost his brother (On his shoulders) when his own mother killed him apparently because of the hysteria caused by the prediction. There are hundreds left without a dime, children with fanatic parents who will starve, they are all candidates for suicide. Iván
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: May 22 2011 at 12:23
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