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Topic: Books on prog subgenres

Posted By: Stool Man
Subject: Books on prog subgenres
Date Posted: May 02 2011 at 05:12

I know there are books on Krautrock, and on Folk, and on Psychedelia - are there books on other subgenres of prog?

I'd be especially interested to know of any books on Prog Metal or Jazz Rock/Fusion, but any others would be good to know about too.

Thanks

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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: May 02 2011 at 09:55

You must read Mean deviation by Jeff Wagner. It's a book about prog metal. When I say prog metal I mean about extreme prog metal too.

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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: May 02 2011 at 16:21

There's a book about progressive electronic written by the head of the krautrock/electronic team on this site:

http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/the-art-of-duration-and-resonance/6241504" rel="nofollow - http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/the-art-of-duration-and-resonance/6241504

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Posted By: jalooasen
Date Posted: March 25 2012 at 21:12

Books on prog subgenres Smile

EDIT: Thanks for your fishy comments, and spam links removed.

Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: March 25 2012 at 22:24

My book about Symphonic, is already in the Copyright Office in order to send it to the editor.

Of course it's in Spanish

Iván

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Posted By: andrea
Date Posted: March 26 2012 at 14:18

Book in English about ROCK PROGRESSIVO ITALIANO

You can find it http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=ntt_athr_dp_sr_1?_encoding=UTF8&sort=relevancerank&search-alias=books&ie=UTF8&field-author=Andrea%20Parentin" rel="nofollow - HERE

You can download a preview of the book in PDF (more than 100 pages) . Click https://www.createspace.com/pub/community/give.review.do?id=1086260&rewrite=true" rel="nofollow - HERE

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http://italianprogmap.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - ITALIAN PROG MAP - A journey through the Italian Progressive Rock

Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 08:55

Thanks!

Now where are the Canterbury book, the Neo book, and the Proto book?

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Posted By: andrea
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 09:58

Stool Man wrote:

Thanks!

Now where are the Canterbury book, the Neo book, and the Proto book?

There's a book in Italian about the Canterbury scene...

http://www.amazon.it/Canterbury-provincia-progressivo-britannico-1967-1981/dp/8896149053/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1332859990&sr=1-1" rel="nofollow - http://www.amazon.it/Canterbury-provincia-progressivo-britannico-1967-1981/dp/8896149053/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1332859990&sr=1-1

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http://italianprogmap.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - ITALIAN PROG MAP - A journey through the Italian Progressive Rock

Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 12:25

andrea wrote:

Book in English about ROCK PROGRESSIVO ITALIANO

You can find it http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=ntt_athr_dp_sr_1?_encoding=UTF8&sort=relevancerank&search-alias=books&ie=UTF8&field-author=Andrea%20Parentin" rel="nofollow -

You can download a preview of the book in PDF (more than 100 pages) . Click https://www.createspace.com/pub/community/give.review.do?id=1086260&rewrite=true" rel="nofollow -

Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 12:43

andrea wrote:

Stool Man wrote:

Thanks!

Now where are the Canterbury book, the Neo book, and the Proto book?

There's a book in Italian about the Canterbury scene...

It looks like Aymeric Leroy will finally be releasing his book on the Canterbury scene at the end of this year in French, and then an English translation may follow ere very long.

http://calyx.perso.neuf.fr/" rel="nofollow - http://calyx.perso.neuf.fr/

from calyx wrote:

I have been at work, for several years now, on a book about the Canterbury scene. I am finally close to finishing it. A publication date for the French version has been set for November 2012; hopefully an English translation will follow in the not-too-distant future.

The book will aim to provide the definitive history of the Canterbury scene, as documented in the extensive press archive I have had access to, and as told by its protagonists, a lot of whom I have interviewed. The book will also offer a critical perspective on the vast musical legacy of that scene....

Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:01

Are we (the Art Rock past and present teams) to write the first books on Eclectic, Heavy and Crossover ourselves? :D

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:08

Ricochet wrote:

Are we (the Art Rock past and present teams) to write the first books on Eclectic, Heavy and Crossover ourselves? :D

Considering your inventiveness when it comes to the terms Crossover Prog, Heavy Prog and Eclectic Prog, methinks you'd almost have to (though I sure do see those terms being widely used outside of PA now as subgenre terms). Though I had no part in the set-up of those categories, perhaps I could help as a former member of the Eclectic Prog team. :D

Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:30

The original definition I came up with for Eclectic was enough material for two volumes. Good think David was a good, if cruel editor. LOL

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Posted By: andrea
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:57

Logan wrote:

andrea wrote:

Stool Man wrote:

Thanks!

Now where are the Canterbury book, the Neo book, and the Proto book?

There's a book in Italian about the Canterbury scene...

from calyx wrote:

Good news! I've read Aymeric Leroy's book about the history of prog and I think it's a very good one!

http://www.amazon.fr/Rock-progressif-Aymeric-Leroy/dp/2360540033" rel="nofollow - http://www.amazon.fr/Rock-progressif-Aymeric-Leroy/dp/2360540033

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http://italianprogmap.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - ITALIAN PROG MAP - A journey through the Italian Progressive Rock

Posted By: andrea
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 14:00

CPicard wrote:

andrea wrote:

Book in English about ROCK PROGRESSIVO ITALIANO

You can find it http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=ntt_athr_dp_sr_1?_encoding=UTF8&sort=relevancerank&search-alias=books&ie=UTF8&field-author=Andrea%20Parentin" rel="nofollow - HERE

You can download a preview of the book in PDF (more than 100 pages) . Click https://www.createspace.com/pub/community/give.review.do?id=1086260&rewrite=true" rel="nofollow - HERE

I wouldn't like to sound like a snobbish person, but... Is there an Italian version?

No, there's no Italian version for this book...

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http://italianprogmap.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - ITALIAN PROG MAP - A journey through the Italian Progressive Rock

Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 17:55

andrea wrote:

Book in English about ROCK PROGRESSIVO ITALIANO

You can find it http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=ntt_athr_dp_sr_1?_encoding=UTF8&sort=relevancerank&search-alias=books&ie=UTF8&field-author=Andrea%20Parentin" rel="nofollow -

You can download a preview of the book in PDF (more than 100 pages) . Click https://www.createspace.com/pub/community/give.review.do?id=1086260&rewrite=true" rel="nofollow -

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Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 08:37

I'm thinking a Proto book would be terrific - and it'd stop before the 1970s, of course.

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Posted By: tigka_progka
Date Posted: June 12 2012 at 14:15

Prog Geo wrote:

You must read Mean deviation by Jeff Wagner. It's a book about prog metal. When I say prog metal I mean about extreme prog metal too.

I concur with this this statement. It made a good reading, although i expected less known bands.

Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: June 28 2012 at 10:57

Stool Man wrote:

I know there are books on Krautrock, and on Folk, and on Psychedelia - are there books on other subgenres of prog?

I'd be especially interested to know of any books on Prog Metal or Jazz Rock/Fusion, but any others would be good to know about too.

Thanks

Jazz Rock

Jazz Rock: A History by Stuart Nicholson, published at least 15 years ago is the bible beit with a heavy American slant (up to ~15 years ago), if you can find it - and will the person I lent my copy to about a decade ago, return it!!!!. Nicholson's Is Jazz Dead Or Moved To A New Place fills in some gaps of the subsequent years, although it is broader wrt the new/nu jazz described, while comparing against the more recently prevailing "Jazz is America's classical music" of the jazz establishment. Interesting biogs of Mahavishnu Orchestra ( http://www.amazon.co.uk/Power-Passion-And-Beauty-Mahavishnu/dp/0976101629/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1340898737&sr=1-1" rel="nofollow - Power, Passion And Beauty: The Story of the Legendary Mahavishnu Orchestra: The Greatest Band That Ever Was by Walter Kolosky), Joe Zawinul (hence Weather Report) (Brian Glasser's In a Silent Way: A Portrait of Joe Zawinul), and Jon Hisemen ( http://www.amazon.co.uk/Playing-Band-Musical-Life-Hiseman/dp/0956686303/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1340898943&sr=1-1" rel="nofollow - Playing the Band: The Musical Life of Jon Hiseman by Martyn Hanson and Colin Richardson)

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Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: July 10 2012 at 13:14

Anything avant-related?

Posted By: Rustain
Date Posted: June 03 2013 at 13:32

I apologize that i'm exhuming dead thread, but could anyone recommend me books on Prog rock subgenres such as Avant, RIO, Krautrock, Zeuhl and even regional Prog scenes? i would appreciate it very much, thank you

Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: June 05 2013 at 03:49

A thread isn't dead if the topic interests people. Until it's locked, then those interested must start a new one themself.

http://www.amazon.com/Krautrock-Cosmic-Rock-Its-Legacy/dp/1906155666/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1370422261&sr=8-1&keywords=krautrock+book" rel="nofollow - This book on Krautrock is excellent.

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Posted By: Knobby
Date Posted: June 05 2013 at 07:27

Yes, the Kotsopolous book is excellent - deep on the scene at the time (albiet lacking when it comes to discography of obscurer Krauts)

Being a poor boy, I gots the local library to get it for me.

However, they let me down on these books which I wanted much more:

MORTON JACK - GALACTIC WOTSITS (RAMBLE?)

MORTON JACK - ENDLESS WOTSITS (JOURNEY??)

PATRICK LUNDBORG - PSYCHEDELICA

jOHAN KUGELBERG & PAUL MAJOR - ENJOY THE EXPERIENCE: HOMEMADE RECORDS 1958-1992

SCOTT FARAGHER - HAMMOND BOOK

Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: September 14 2013 at 02:36

Time for another thread resurrection. I'm interested in reading up on the history of electronic music, specifically what happened between Kraftwerk and the IDM explosion of the 1990s. So far on my reading list is that book mentioned on the first page that several PAers wrote and the following:

Julian Cope - Krautrock Sampler
Mathias Kilian Hanf - Detroit Techno
Simon Reynolds - Energy Flash
Simon Reynolds - Generation Ecstasy

I might also look up Jim Derogatis' Turn on Your Mind to see what he has to say on the subject. That book's about psychedelic music in general and all about drawing lineages from the 1960s to now, but him having to focus on several different genres and subcultures over 40 years often results in his coverage being rather superficial. (I reviewed that book's previous incarnation Kaleidoscope Eyes)

There's also quite a bit of more fanziney stuff about the industrial end of things, most notably the RE/Search handbooks.

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Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: September 15 2013 at 12:05

Jim DeRogatis' book is great for psyche, yeah.

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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: October 01 2013 at 10:20

from calyx wrote:

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I'm thinking that this will be impossible, since the beginnings of the Canterbury scene involved too many other arts and disciplines, that pop music folks do not believe in, or have ever heard. On top of it, the folks involved were so ripped, they didn't know the difference, and hearing about it today is ignored. Daevid's recollections are the clearest, but he is being polite and not saying a whole lot, and the others are so quiet as to be embarassed that they were there and had sex with whomever!

A work that was more complete, and had more information in it would be interesting, but I can not see anyone being man enough to even talk to actress Julie Christie, or actor Michael Caine, and they were all there, and even spent time in the same house as Ayers, Wyatt, Allen, several other artists, painters and writers, that we choose to ignore, rather than find why they are all there in the first place. It doesn't have to be a tittilating experience or a Pam des Bullpucky, but it would give it some depth that would help make the whole thing more valuable. But excusing it on some esoteric, and absurd musical note or notation, is a waste!

And it is sooooooooo artistic to have writers, poets and philosophers listening to jazzy music and discussing their latest adventure, you know. That story is in hundreds of Parisian cafes in the 20th century! Oh, that would interest your book a lot! Heck, even Yoko One, was in the same neighborhood, but taking her feelings and word for any value?

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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: October 01 2013 at 10:31

moshkito wrote:

from calyx wrote:

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So, what do YOU wait for writing such a book? Come on, Moshkito, write a book, go and see artists and write a book!

Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: October 01 2013 at 12:40

Here are some of my favorite books related to progressive and electric folk:

Seasons They Change: the Story of Acid & Psychedelic Folk by Jeanette Leach

Electric Eden: Unearthing Britain's Visionary Music by Rob Young

Electric Folk: The Changing Face of EnglishTraditional Music by Britta Sweers

White Bicycles: Making Music in the 1960s by Joe Boyd

Twenty Thousand Roads: The Ballad of Gram Parsons and his Cosmic American Music by David Meyer

Laurel Canyon: the Inside Story of Rock-and-Roll's Legendary Neighborhood by Michael Walker

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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: October 05 2013 at 17:09

CPicard wrote:

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So, what do YOU wait for writing such a book? Come on, Moshkito, write a book, go and see artists and write a book!

Half way there.

And for your record, some folks at PA are being interviewed for it as well, because they deserve the credit and the beauty their words carry in this place, instead.

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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
www.pedrosena.com