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Topic: "The Hobbit" film updatesPosted By: The Monodrone
Subject: "The Hobbit" film updates
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 18:33
Any thoughts about this project?
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Replies: Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 20:22
Excited. But it's been years since I read the Hobbit, I really should revisit the whole series...
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Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 20:45
NecronCommander wrote:
Excited. But it's been years since I read the Hobbit, I really should revisit the whole series...
Me too, I plan on re-reading it this summer. One of my favorite books.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 17 2011 at 11:20
Is it my imagination, or is Peter Jackson beginning to look like one of Tolkien's dwarves?
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: April 17 2011 at 15:51
I've read The Hobbit twice.
I doubt I'll watch the film though.
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Posted By: tupan
Date Posted: April 17 2011 at 16:22
The Dark Elf wrote:
Is it my imagination, or is Peter Jackson beginning to look like one of Tolkien's dwarves?
Indeed!
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Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: April 17 2011 at 16:37
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Posted By: June
Date Posted: April 17 2011 at 19:06
Hope they don't overhype it.
Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: April 17 2011 at 19:22
June wrote:
Hope they don't overhype it.
Me too... though I believe it'll be good.
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: April 18 2011 at 09:09
I'm very hyped. My father was a Tolkien fanatic so I grew up with that mythology as much as any other as my backdrop. He let me watch the scary as crap cartoon movie when I was way too young for it.
In any case, I was mostly quite satisfied with Jackson's renditions and look forward to The Hobbit. The visual rendering of Smaug is of course what I'm anticipating most. Spiders are guaranteed to be scary...better not omit Beorn.
And no taped on love interests.
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: April 18 2011 at 10:26
The Dark Elf wrote:
Is it my imagination, or is Peter Jackson beginning to look like one of Tolkien's dwarves?
"you become what you eat" is a popular saying, not that Peter eats dwarfs, but he have probaby ingulfed himself wigh dwars and starts to become one, along the time he directs them, the Hobbit is mostly about dwarfs anyway 11 of them,
my only concern is Smaug, they have to doo a awesome Smaug, a Smaug that scare the sh*t out of everyone, Smaug must be made into humans greatest fear, a dragon is humans greatest fear becouse they are smarter then uss, also becouse dragons are the imagined version of humans greatest fear, like Vampires are human only distorded and Elfs/elves are what humans aspire to be like, Vampires and Elves are omnipotent to eachother, one is living by the light the other by darkness, the both are immoral, while one is cursed to eat blood, (I don't buy that alergic to garlic, stakes and silver myths, theyr only weakness is that they become weakned in sunlight, they doo not die, but they become more human, while at night and under full moon, they are tenfolds the strenght of a human), but elves are stronger with sunlight and with the closness to nature,
Dragons are what we humans least wants to come a cross, an other being the genie is probably the omnipotent, to the dragon in that sence that you can controll a genie/ginn(/fIitt, you can hardly control a dragon
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: April 18 2011 at 18:20
June wrote:
Hope they don't overhype it.
It will be.
It will also likely have some bits cut out, or a different ending or an insertion of a random character.
Ah, retconning is fun.
Although maybe for once he'll stick to the book. And I want to see Tom Bombadil, even if he is annoying.
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Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: April 18 2011 at 18:39
I have full confidence that this will be fantastic. Being a Lord of the Rings geek, I thought that the film adaption of the trilogy couldn't have been executed any better than it was, and I'm certainly ready for more
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 19 2011 at 06:32
]What do we need a movie for if we have this:
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: April 19 2011 at 08:15
In the video snippet, Jackson clearly plans to take a few liberties with the book. I hope they're minor. Showing Narsil is one little visual detail, but I'm not big on new characters.
Tom Bombadil was a LOTR omission. Beorn was omitted from the Hobbit cartoon from back in the day.
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 19 2011 at 08:18
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: April 19 2011 at 08:35
I'm so very looking forward to it. It's a much more classic tale, much more to the point.The challenge, of course, will be making us care about each dwarf at least kind of equally, and making the battle between the humans and Smaug not so sudden. He'll probably take liberties with character development on the human side, which is ok. It was really underdeveloped in the book.
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: April 19 2011 at 10:27
I have only one cast wish, I want Michael Clarke Duncan as Beorn, I CAN NOT SEE ANY OTHER HUMANS WHO COULD DO THAT ROLE AS GOOD AS DUNCAN, (read this Jackson).
the only one who both can act and fit the size, voice, and weapon handeling
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: April 19 2011 at 10:46
The Cast So Far
Bilbo Baggins - Martin Freeman Gandalf - Sir Ian McKellen Gollum - Andy Serkis Galadriel - Cate Blanchett Saruman - Sir Cristopher Lee Frodo Baggins - Elijah Wood Legolas - Orlando Bloom Thorin - Richard Armitage Kili - Aidan Turner Fili - Rob Kazinsky Dwalin - Graham McTavish Oin - John Callen Bombur - Steven Hunter Dori - Mark Hadlow Gloin - Peter Hambleton Bofur - James Nesbitt Ori - Adam Brown Beorn - Mikael Persbrandt Radagast -Sylvester McCoy Lord Balin - Ken Stott Drogo Baggins - Ryan Cage Nori - Jed Brophy Bifur - William Kircher Thror - Jeffrey Thomas (TBC) Thrain - Mike Mizrahi (TBC) Lindir - Bret McKenzie
For you other Tolkien fans - there is alot that can be inferred just from this.
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 19 2011 at 11:27
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: April 19 2011 at 13:21
Epignosis wrote:
Negoba wrote:
Tom Bombadil was a LOTR omission.
Thank God.
So he was. Oops. However, he's still an important character, despite how annoying he is.
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: April 19 2011 at 13:23
Martin Freeman?
What?
Hahahaha.
He's an average actor. I like the guy but meh... Plus isn't he quite tall?
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: April 19 2011 at 13:32
Negoba wrote:
The Cast So Far
Galadriel - Cate Blanchett Saruman - Sir Cristopher Lee Frodo Baggins - Elijah Wood Legolas - Orlando Bloom Radagast -Sylvester McCoy Drogo Baggins - Ryan Cage Thror - Jeffrey Thomas (TBC) Thrain - Mike Mizrahi (TBC) Lindir - Bret McKenzie
I don't recall they appeared in The Hobbit (the book).
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 19 2011 at 15:42
I just dropped back in on this page and noticed I messed up the youtube link. If you haven't seen Leonard Nimoy doing the Bilbo Baggins song, go back and laugh your ass off or cringe.
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: April 19 2011 at 18:35
Tuzvihar wrote:
Negoba wrote:
The Cast So Far
Galadriel - Cate Blanchett Saruman - Sir Cristopher Lee Frodo Baggins - Elijah Wood Legolas - Orlando Bloom Radagast -Sylvester McCoy Drogo Baggins - Ryan Cage Thror - Jeffrey Thomas (TBC) Thrain - Mike Mizrahi (TBC) Lindir - Bret McKenzie
I don't recall they appeared in The Hobbit (the book).
There are two movies involving two concurrent time lines dealing with Bilbo and Dwarves quest and that of the White Council and the overthrow of Dol Guldor. Radagast is mentioned in the Hobbit by Beorn and is part of the White Council. Thror and Thrain will be shown as background material I am sure much the same way Isildur and Elendil were in the Lord of the Rings. While he isn't mentioned by name Legolas would surely be in the house of his father Thranduil, King of the Wood Elves. Perfect spot for a cameo. The same goes for Frodo's father. The only one that really is a stretch is Frodo.
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Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: April 19 2011 at 18:45
James wrote:
Martin Freeman?
What?
Hahahaha.
He's an average actor. I like the guy but meh... Plus isn't he quite tall?
Eh, doesn't matter. Worked in the past.
Also, I definitely see PJ omitting Beorn, who is The Hobbit equivalent of, yes, Tom Bombadil.
The 2nd movie will probably blow.
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: April 20 2011 at 02:23
i only wants Michael Clark Duncan as Beorn any other would be a miscast
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: April 20 2011 at 03:07
Negoba wrote:
The Cast So Far
Bilbo Baggins - Martin Freeman Gandalf - Sir Ian McKellen Gollum - Andy Serkis Galadriel - Cate Blanchett Saruman - Sir Cristopher Lee Frodo Baggins - Elijah Wood Legolas - Orlando Bloom Thorin - Richard Armitage Kili - Aidan Turner Fili - Rob Kazinsky Dwalin - Graham McTavish Oin - John Callen Bombur - Steven Hunter Dori - Mark Hadlow Gloin - Peter Hambleton Bofur - James Nesbitt Ori - Adam Brown Beorn - Mikael Persbrandt Radagast -Sylvester McCoy Lord Balin - Ken Stott Drogo Baggins - Ryan Cage Nori - Jed Brophy Bifur - William Kircher Thror - Jeffrey Thomas (TBC) Thrain - Mike Mizrahi (TBC) Lindir - Bret McKenzie
For you other Tolkien fans - there is alot that can be inferred just from this.
Anachronisms? Or does the film go beyond the chronological bounds of the book?
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: April 20 2011 at 03:45
What the heck let's enjoy the ride, there's not much new good stuff to watch these days anyway
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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: April 20 2011 at 04:59
Negoba wrote:
The Cast So Far
Bilbo Baggins - Martin Freeman Gandalf - Sir Ian McKellen Gollum - Andy Serkis Galadriel - Cate Blanchett Saruman - Sir Cristopher Lee Frodo Baggins - Elijah Wood Legolas - Orlando Bloom Thorin - Richard Armitage Kili - Aidan Turner Fili - Rob Kazinsky Dwalin - Graham McTavish Oin - John Callen Bombur - Steven Hunter Dori - Mark Hadlow Gloin - Peter Hambleton Bofur - James Nesbitt Ori - Adam Brown Beorn - Mikael Persbrandt Radagast -Sylvester McCoy Lord Balin - Ken Stott Drogo Baggins - Ryan Cage Nori - Jed Brophy Bifur - William Kircher Thror - Jeffrey Thomas (TBC) Thrain - Mike Mizrahi (TBC) Lindir - Bret McKenzie
For you other Tolkien fans - there is alot that can be inferred just from this.
Bard, the archer, is not on the list?
Well, one thing is sure: this will launch Richard Armitage into stardom. I'd prefer somebody older, and I hope he will be both remarkable and arrogant.
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: April 21 2011 at 05:40
That so-called "Peter Jackson" in the OP's video is an IMPOSTER! Here's the real deal for you:
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: April 21 2011 at 08:06
Elrond is not cast yet...I assume they want Hugo Weaving back...seems strange. Similarly, I don't see omitting Bard as an option. Maybe just not cast yet.
Having the White Council and the over throw of Dol Guldor could be awesome!!!
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