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Topic: Notify All Newbies About Voting Restrictions
Posted By: Anthony H.
Subject: Notify All Newbies About Voting Restrictions
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 14:19
I've noticed that many newbies are mystified by the fact that they can't vote on/create polls. Perhaps it would be possible to create an automatic notification for all newbies that informs them of this and explains the rationale behind it. I think that this would significantly reduce confusion within the forum.

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 14:26
I think that this is a very sensible suggestion.

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Posted By: seventhsojourn
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 14:43
If it's not practical to create an automatic notification, maybe the following could be added to ''announcements'' in the Newbie page or a link posted to it in the ''Site Rules & Guidelines'' section. Just a thought.
 
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72733&title=new-restriction-on-poll-creation-and-voting" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72733&title=new-restriction-on-poll-creation-and-voting  


Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 14:47
Excellent suggestionClapClapClapClap

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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 17:57
MAJOR BUMP

Seriously, it's absolutely infuriating seeing newbies bitch about how they can't vote. All the posts that are wasted explaining this can easily be avoided if this notification could be implemented.


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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 18:07
Yea, seriously LOL

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Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 18:11
This is an awesome idea

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Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 18:16
seems like a no brainer to me

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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 18:26
BAN THE SPOCK FANATICS


Yes. Good idea.


Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 18:36
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

BAN THE SPOCK FANATICS


Yes. Good idea.

This, on the other hand, is a bad idea. Stern Smile


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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 18:39
Originally posted by Andyman1125 Andyman1125 wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

BAN THE SPOCK FANATICS


Yes. Good idea.

This, on the other hand, is a bad idea. Stern Smile

I kid i kid i swear. Embarrassed




Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 19:11
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Originally posted by Andyman1125 Andyman1125 wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

BAN THE SPOCK FANATICS


Yes. Good idea.

This, on the other hand, is a bad idea. Stern Smile

I kid i kid i swear. Embarrassed



Tongue


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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 19:20
The "Gods" of PA: when will you grant our wish?

Because seriously, it gets irritating having to notify them everyday.


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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 19:21
I like how this idea is receiving unanimous agreement, but will still be ignored.

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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 19:23
I've sent notice of this to the admins, I hope mailto:M@X" rel="nofollow - M@X acts soon enough after that.

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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 19:23



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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 19:23
There should be a popup window when they click on any thread in the Prog Polls section


Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 19:24
Yay CCVP!


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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 20:31
Originally posted by Lark the Starless Lark the Starless wrote:

The "Gods" of PA: when will you grant our wish?

Because seriously, it gets irritating having to notify them everyday.
 
You can always tell them they have to contact the site admin to find out why it is not working...LOL


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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 23:44
It's certainly a valid point, and like most valid points has already been included in the FAQ section of the Site Rules and Guidelines. The Admin team are currently discussing this with a view to the merits (or otherwise) of implementing such an aide for Newbies. In the grand scheme of irritants however, I think we'd all agree it's the flaming, trolling, baiting, vulgarity and sniping that we've all forsworn not to indulge in, which will never disappear no matter how many pop-ups, FAQs or disclaimers we provide.

Will update y'all in due course and thanks for the ideas fellas


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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: September 26 2011 at 13:38
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

It's certainly a valid point, and like most valid points has already been included in the FAQ section of the Site Rules and Guidelines.

And it's buried so deep that I didn't even realize it was there, and I had gone looking for it previously because I was also complaining about this at some point. The whole section needs to be consolidated and revamped, really. Is it really  necessary to repost all the subforum descriptions http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13082" rel="nofollow - here or have a separate thread for http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51801" rel="nofollow - this ? Yes, it's people's responsibility to read the threads, but if people are consistently not reading it, then there's a problem with your presentation as much as there is with them...

And the http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=12629" rel="nofollow - pictures thread is horribly out of date, nobody uses photobucket anymore. :P


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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: September 26 2011 at 14:12
what are baiting Question

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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: September 26 2011 at 16:42
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

It's certainly a valid point, and like most valid points has already been included in the FAQ section of the Site Rules and Guidelines.

And it's buried so deep that I didn't even realize it was there, and I had gone looking for it previously because I was also complaining about this at some point. The whole section needs to be consolidated and revamped, really. Is it really  necessary to repost all the subforum descriptions http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13082" rel="nofollow - here or have a separate thread for http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51801" rel="nofollow - this ? Yes, it's people's responsibility to read the threads, but if people are consistently not reading it, then there's a problem with your presentation as much as there is with them...

And the http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=12629" rel="nofollow - pictures thread is horribly out of date, nobody uses photobucket anymore. :P


Yeah, what he said.


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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: September 27 2011 at 04:39
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

It's certainly a valid point, and like most valid points has already been included in the FAQ section of the Site Rules and Guidelines.

And it's buried so deep that I didn't even realize it was there, and I had gone looking for it previously because I was also complaining about this at some point. The whole section needs to be consolidated and revamped, really. Is it really  necessary to repost all the subforum descriptions http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13082" rel="nofollow - here or have a separate thread for http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51801" rel="nofollow - this ? Yes, it's people's responsibility to read the threads, but if people are consistently not reading it, then there's a problem with your presentation as much as there is with them...

And the http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=12629" rel="nofollow - pictures thread is horribly out of date, nobody uses photobucket anymore. :P


I struggled reading all of your post (must be the presentation) but made the requisite minimal effort to allow me to follow it through to the end. My reward for this unstinting fortitude was that I do concede the Site Rules and Guidelines is not the raciest read you will ever find but does have a clear and logical layout. A newbie attempting to start a new thread would welcome a list of possible destinations that would make the 'best fit'
The consequences of PA being the subject of litigation by 3rd parties for possible copyright infringements would not only jeopardise the member poster individually but potentially the continued existence of the entire site if either were subject to legal action. Hence the need to have this warning disclaimer posted near the top and 'standalone'.
As far as the perceived epidemic of inconsolable members driven to apoplexy by newbies asking why they can neither create or vote in polls goes, it's shampoo for boars (Hogwash)
Like I stated in an earlier post, we have raised this issue with site owner Max and intend to implement a fix (for something that is very far away indeed from being considered 'broken') in the near future.

Now here's Iain with the weather.....


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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: September 27 2011 at 04:40
Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

what are baiting Question


This


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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: September 27 2011 at 05:37
 
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Like I stated in an earlier post, we have raised this issue with site owner Max and intend to implement a fix (for something that is very far away indeed from being considered 'broken') in the near future.

If you're talking about a software fix, I don't believe that it will ever happen at all, much less in the "near future"...

However, you don't need a software fix when you can make it more prominent in the official thread. Yes, copyright is important, so put it at the top of the thread addressing newbies, along with a mention about the polls. Or if you're really adamant about that, fine, have that in addition to two others (one of the forum and one for the reviews) and have a total of 3 threads. 7 threads is too much and should be streamlined regardless of this poll issue.

And the problem is with the members themselves getting frustrated that they can't vote for no apparent reason as much as us getting annoyed by them.


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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: September 27 2011 at 13:51
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

nobody uses photobucket anymore. :P


I do. Stern Smile

What's wrong with it?


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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: September 27 2011 at 16:25
Originally posted by Tuzvihar Tuzvihar wrote:

What's wrong with it?
It makes you register, which is extremely annoying, and then it still screws with you by putting caps on on how many times your image can be viewed per day (remember the old days before it was required and to upload your avatar to the PA server and everyone with an animated gif avatar hosted on Photobucket would get a Bandwidth exceeded! image by the end of every day?) !and making the image URL extremely long. imgur is better in every way possible, and while I have my doubts that it can continue to exist, if it goes down it will take half the internet with it so you will be in good company. The only bad thing about imgur is that it will forcibly compress large images, but there are other places to host those special cases and it's unlikely to come up very much for PA members anyway.

And the explanation is rather convoluted anyway, I don't know why someone would use the silly WSIWYG buttons instead of just typing [img] tags.


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: September 27 2011 at 16:28
Photobucket suspended the free accounts from the old times, and the internet is full with forum threads filled of pictures that are currently unavailable. Angry


Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: September 27 2011 at 23:01
newbies can't vote?


Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: September 28 2011 at 00:17
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Photobucket suspended the free accounts from the old times, and the internet is full with forum threads filled of pictures that are currently unavailable. Angry
Huh, I didn't know that, there's another reason. I'm not sure if imgur deletes old images. I've come across some posts with broken imgur links where I don't think the author would have had any reason to delete it himself, but I've also also seen lots of images that are 2+ years old.

But if you look at the http://imgur.com/stats/month" rel="nofollow - stats , they recently broke using 1.1 terabytes of bandwidth per month. And only around 6 months ago it was around 500 gigabytes (I don't remember exactly when it was that I checked, but it was certainly less than year). I feel this is not a sustainable growth model, especially since most of that has to be hotlinks on reddit and forums where they can't make any money. 
Originally posted by Conor Fynes Conor Fynes wrote:

newbies can't vote?
*facepalm*  DO YOU SEE WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT ADMINS?


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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 28 2011 at 00:30
I see some members are suggesting that M@X alter the code for the forum. I know your heart is in the right place, but you're barking up a tree that's been abandoned, hollowed out, and infested by a family of owls for more than 2 years.


Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: September 28 2011 at 06:20
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

I see some members are suggesting that M@X alter the code for the forum. I know your heart is in the right place, but you're barking up a tree that's been abandoned, hollowed out, and infested by a family of owls for more than 2 years.


lol


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