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Topic: "Wild Man" Fischer and more "Out There" Performers
Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Subject: "Wild Man" Fischer and more "Out There" Performers
Date Posted: January 03 2011 at 03:10
Anyone interested in outsider music and other really REALLY unique artists?







More to come but now I need to go to bed. I have work tomorrow. Good night. Sleepy










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Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: January 03 2011 at 03:45
One more. Frank Zappa is featured.

For mature audience




Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: January 03 2011 at 04:16
And of course the late,great Captain Beefheart. Rest In Peace.




Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: January 03 2011 at 04:21
And that's it. Good night. Big smile


Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: January 03 2011 at 06:10
I can't stand Fischer's vocals, they are so annoying. Never could get into him.


Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: January 03 2011 at 20:38
Have you read the book Songs In the Key Of Z by Irwin Chusid?  It covers a number of outsider musicians including Fischer, Captain Beefheart, the Shaggs, Jandek, Daniel Johnston, Wesley Willis and more.  There's also an album of the same title that goes with it.




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Posted By: Noak
Date Posted: January 04 2011 at 20:15
I have a somewhat large interest in artists and bands like this. I am a huge fan of Captain Beefheart, Wesley Willis, Jandek, The Shaggs, Frank Zappa, Little Fyodor, Philemon Arthur and the Dung and, if I may say so myself, The Residents, Snakefinger and Renaldo & The Loaf.


Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: January 04 2011 at 22:14
Originally posted by zappaholic zappaholic wrote:

Have you read the book Songs In the Key Of Z by Irwin Chusid?  It covers a number of outsider musicians including Fischer, Captain Beefheart, the Shaggs, Jandek, Daniel Johnston, Wesley Willis and more.  There's also an album of the same title that goes with it.




Never heard of the book and BIG thanks for bringing it to my attention. Smile
 
Speaking of Captain Beefheart, How could I forget about The Residents?!
 




Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: January 04 2011 at 23:02
Originally posted by Noak Noak wrote:

I have a somewhat large interest in artists and bands like this. I am a huge fan of Captain Beefheart, Wesley Willis, Jandek, The Shaggs, Frank Zappa, Little Fyodor, Philemon Arthur and the Dung and, if I may say so myself, The Residents, Snakefinger and Renaldo & The Loaf.
 
How about The Rudy Schwartz Project? This one might be quite hard to find.
 
And again this is for mature audience.
 
 


Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: January 04 2011 at 23:49
Got called for a morning shift at work tomorrow so here's one more for a nightcap.
 
Praise "Bob"!
 
 Big smileApproveLOLTongueSmile
 
 


Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: January 06 2011 at 22:15
And yes, The late, great Wesley Willis interviewed by Nardwuar the Human Serviette and introduced by Jello Biafra.
 
Rest easy Wesley.
 
 


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Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: January 06 2011 at 22:44
And now, The Zapster himself. Cool nick name and I take NONE of the credit for it.
 
 


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 04:26




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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 20:07
Jandek's first-ever live performance, 2004.






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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 20:09
I still really need to get me some Jandek.


Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: March 16 2011 at 15:52
Butthole Surfers
 
Warning: Profanity
 
 
 


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Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: March 16 2011 at 16:13
Originally posted by zappaholic zappaholic wrote:

Jandek's first-ever live performance, 2004.



 
I wonder how he tunes his guitar? Wild stuff! Cool


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Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: March 16 2011 at 16:24
Mrs. Miller
 
 


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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: March 18 2011 at 17:00
Originally posted by Pastor Rex Cat Pastor Rex Cat wrote:

Originally posted by zappaholic zappaholic wrote:

Jandek's first-ever live performance, 2004.



 
I wonder how he tunes his guitar? Wild stuff! Cool
 
I don't think he does - ever.
 
 


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Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: March 18 2011 at 18:06
To Zappaholic:
 
After hearing The Shaggs I'm now more determined to find that book you recommended.
 
 


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Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: March 18 2011 at 18:09
Zoogz Rift
 
 
 
Praise "Bob"!
 


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Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: March 18 2011 at 18:16
Bill T. Miller
 
 


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Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: March 18 2011 at 19:40
Tiny Tim
 
 


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Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: May 13 2011 at 20:00
The Cherry Sisters


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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 04:56
Originally posted by Pastor Rex Cat Pastor Rex Cat wrote:

The Cherry Sisters


Now don't confuse the Cherry Sisters and the Sherry Sisters.  The former never recorded (apart from a 1901 acetate which has gone missing), and all we have to remember them by are their (uniformly negative) reviews.




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Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 17:00
Originally posted by zappaholic zappaholic wrote:

Originally posted by Pastor Rex Cat Pastor Rex Cat wrote:

The Cherry Sisters


Now don't confuse the Cherry Sisters and the Sherry Sisters.  The former never recorded (apart from a 1901 acetate which has gone missing), and all we have to remember them by are their (uniformly negative) reviews.


 
Oops! My goof-up! I still don't have that book but I misread the band name on the video.
My appologies to The Sherry Sisters.  Embarrassed
http://wfmu.org/LCD/Early/cherry.html" rel="nofollow - http://wfmu.org/LCD/Early/cherry.html
http://www.keyofz.com/closeup.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.keyofz.com/closeup.htm


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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 17:54
You can probably order the book from Amazon or through your local bookstore.  (I ordered my copy at Borders.)  As for the CD, I lucked out and found it used for $5 in a record store.  In mint condition even.




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Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 22:07
Originally posted by zappaholic zappaholic wrote:

You can probably order the book from Amazon or through your local bookstore.  (I ordered my copy at Borders.)  As for the CD, I lucked out and found it used for $5 in a record store.  In mint condition even.
 
 
I'll check the local outlets or I'll special order it. Thanks. Smile
 
Now, about Joe Meek:
 
This Wiki looks interesting. Too bad for his sad and tragic end though.
The tributes and references include Dave Stewart of Egg, Hatfield And The North, etc...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Meek" rel="nofollow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Meek
 
 


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Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 23:03
Daniel Johnston


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Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: May 15 2011 at 00:53
Keyboardist Dave Stewart explains the workings of Joe Meek's Telstar


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Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 15:46
Harry Partch


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Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 17:04

Joe Meek - Screaming Lord Sutch



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Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: June 16 2011 at 13:09
Originally posted by zappaholic zappaholic wrote:

Jandek's first-ever live performance, 2004.




 
Richard Youngs is the bass player on this - another true outsider


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Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: June 16 2011 at 22:02
I think it's accurate to say that a GG Allin show is not meant to entertain the audience but
to obliterate the audience.
I consider myself a distanced observer rather than a fan and I'm sure GG's fine with that.
Warning: Profanity and hatered.


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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: June 16 2011 at 23:45
Some very early, demented Alice Cooper:
 
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: June 16 2011 at 23:56
What the hell, a few more from Coop while he lived in Detroit:
 
 
 
 
Actually, Easy Action is a kick ass album. Way before its time...in a backwards manner.


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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: June 18 2011 at 07:22
Wild Man Fischer, dead at 66.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/18/arts/music/wild-man-fischer-outsider-musician-dies-at-66.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/18/arts/music/wild-man-fischer-outsider-musician-dies-at-66.html



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Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: June 18 2011 at 08:29
Originally posted by Pastor Rex Cat Pastor Rex Cat wrote:

I think it's accurate to say that a GG Allin show is not meant to entertain the audience but
to obliterate the audience.
I consider myself a distanced observer rather than a fan and I'm sure GG's fine with that.
Warning: Profanity and hatered.
Back in the 1980's this guy would visit all the record stores in Boston & Cambridge (where mine was), and drop off copies of his records to sell (he didn't expect any money).  No one ever bought any.

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Posted By: BenevolentBehemoth
Date Posted: June 19 2011 at 21:58

Just listen to the microtonality. 


Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 20 2011 at 04:30
How about a prog-rock musician who also is an "out there" performer? The performances of Mani Neumeier, drummer of Guru Guru, are legendary; here are some excerpts from one of them:











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Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: June 21 2011 at 21:33
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

How about a prog-rock musician who also is an "out there" performer? The performances of Mani Neumeier, drummer of Guru Guru, are legendary; here are some excerpts from one of them:








 
At last! Something from the world of prog! Thank you for these! Big smile


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Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: June 21 2011 at 21:48
I'll throw in some Guru Guru. They sound like quite a trip.


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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: June 21 2011 at 22:33
Okay. Weird. Prog. Tull.
 


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Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: June 23 2011 at 01:50
And now a message from Frank Zappa


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Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: June 29 2011 at 16:44
The Ziggy Stardust & Vince Taylor connection.


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Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: June 29 2011 at 18:19
Iggy Pop.
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Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: June 29 2011 at 18:22
Marilyn Manson


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Posted By: Pastor Rex Cat
Date Posted: June 29 2011 at 18:34
Gwar


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