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Topic: Handful of Prog songs from non-Prog artists!
Posted By: Gandalff
Subject: Handful of Prog songs from non-Prog artists!
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 03:26

There are some of songs which either are my favourite from my records or known from various radios, or not my favourite though, but generally considered as Prog.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Prog Year!



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Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
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Posted By: Mastosis
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 03:37
I nominate Before The Lobotomy by Green Day.


Posted By: friso
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 03:39
Iron Maiden, and they made a lot of these progressive songs.


Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 03:57
Originally posted by Mastosis Mastosis wrote:

I nominate Before The Lobotomy by Green Day.
Green Day as Prog? Confused
 
Interesting.
 
I´ve found this one on You Tube, it sounds like Prog Punk.LOL


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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!



Posted By: Atoms
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 04:17
April, that's the song that got me into prog in the first place, I think the self titled album by Deep Purple is 100% prog, and even if I love the later material, I would've loved to see how far Deep Purple could've gone as a prog act.

April is without any doubt one of the best prog rock songs ever written, and it's not even done by a prog band. Every single prog fan should've heard it at least once.


Posted By: Nathaniel607
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 04:17
Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Originally posted by Mastosis Mastosis wrote:

I nominate Before The Lobotomy by Green Day.
Green Day as Prog? Confused
 
Interesting.
 
I´ve found this one on You Tube, it sounds like Prog Punk.LOL

Meh. It's interesting hearing Greed Day using a chord sequence slightly more complex than their usual fair, but it's not exactly complex. I still can't stand the vocals. WTF... Green Day using 7/8? I actually don't believe it.

Still, Green Day have zero musicianship. They need a touring guitarist to play the solos. Listen to this solo 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNVoeH4wfx0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNVoeH4wfx0

I mean, Jesus, if they can't play that... they're absolutely pathetic.

Also, about the poll... haven't heard loads of these, but the two Queen songs are obvious choices. 


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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 04:25
Spiral architect!Special track.


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 05:23
A close call. I would call many of these more or less progressive, but I chose five of them:
 
* Bohemian Rhapsody
* A Day in the Life
* Prophet's Song
* Private Investigations
* Kashmir


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Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 05:53
   April without Wine !

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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 06:01
^I comprehend. Wine and spirits generally are prohibited in your country, aren´t it?

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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!



Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 06:12
Bohemian Rap-City
 
It has everything including the modern opera thrown in. It has a melancholy ballad and a soaring lead solo then a multi part harmony orchestrated opera and then a heavy metal section. Prog!


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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 06:18
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Bohemian Rap-City
 
It has everything including the modern opera thrown in. It has a melancholy ballad and a soaring lead solo then a multi part harmony orchestrated opera and then a heavy metal section. Prog!
Thumbs UpAgreed. That´s the song which never palls on.
 
(But I disagree with "Rap-City".)


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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!



Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 06:55
Good suggestions are also http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72102" rel="nofollow - here .

I'd also like to nominate

Happiness is a warm gun - Beatles
Band on the run - Paul McCartney and the Wings
Live and let die - Paul McCartney and the Wings
Music - John Miles
Memories Fade - Tears for Fears (studio version with Mel Collins' sax)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANccuTHLPvY" rel="nofollow - Albatros - Karat (german band)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-3ONcinw10" rel="nofollow - Between the lines - Lake (german band)

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72102" rel="nofollow -


Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 07:03
None of these are prog in my world. Few of them are good rock/heavy rock songs.

I voted Prophet's Song, which is Queen's best effort. Actually I like it very much ;)


Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 07:09
Originally posted by akaBona akaBona wrote:

None of these are prog in my world. Few of them are good rock/heavy rock songs.

I voted Prophet's Song, which is Queen's best effort. Actually I like it very much ;)
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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!



Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 07:21
Innuendo by Queen

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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 07:53
The Moody Blues not prog? interesting, since their 70s period was quite progressive. Also Queens first 5 albums were really progressive.


Posted By: chrijom
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 08:03
My favourite is "Long Distance Runaround" covered by the Red House Painters.


Posted By: chrijom
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 08:04
Oh!I think I misunderstood the title of the thread.  Embarrassed


Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 08:40
Originally posted by chrijom chrijom wrote:

Oh!I think I misunderstood the title of the thread.  Embarrassed
You can erase any your faulted post.Wink

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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!



Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 08:49
Love is like Oxygen????

Sweet is the antithesis of Prog, Love is l Like Oxygen is a good song...But we are talking about a Glam band.

Iván


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 08:54
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Love is like Oxygen????

Sweet is the antithesis of Prog, Love is l Like Oxygen is a good song...But we are talking about a Glam band.

Iván

Sweet are not the antithesis of Prog. What a ridiculous statement. And to call Sweet a "Glam" band is not to know Sweet.

Love Is Like Oxygen is as Prog as any of the songs here.


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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 08:56
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Love is like Oxygen????

Sweet is the antithesis of Prog, Love is l Like Oxygen is a good song...But we are talking about a Glam band.

Iván
I know. This is the thread about. More or less Prog songs from NON Prog bands. For example, Kiss is the antithesis of Prog too.

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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!



Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 09:22
Mother Earth would have been a better pick than Love Is Like Oxygen.


Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 09:40
I vote Love Reign O'er Me.

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Posted By: EnderEd
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 09:47
In that list, I went for "Love, Reign O´er Me", one of the most amazing songs ever written.

But my favorite prog song by a non-prog artist has to be from Loggins & Messina -- Either Angry Eyes, Sailin' the Wind, or Be Free -- probably Sailin' the Wind


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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 10:01
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Love is like Oxygen????

Sweet is the antithesis of Prog, Love is l Like Oxygen is a good song...But we are talking about a Glam band.

Iván

Sweet are not the antithesis of Prog. What a ridiculous statement. And to call Sweet a "Glam" band is not to know Sweet.

Love Is Like Oxygen is as Prog as any of the songs here.
Thank you for your unexpected and rare support!Thumbs Up

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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!



Posted By: kawkaw123
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 10:06
Bohemian Rhapsody. That song is prog. 


Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 11:26
A lot of great songs here. Doors, Dire Straits, Deep Purple, Zeppelin, Who, Moody Blues would all make my list, although I voted for the Doors "The End" because it was one of the first songs I heard that truly transported me to another dimension. A song you could add to your list is "Let's Get The Show On The Road" by Michael Stanley -- the version off his "Friends and Legends" studio album, NOT the live version. I'm no fan of Michael Stanley by any means, but the aforementioned song is great. Great song, great vocals, great guitar, great rhythm section and a fabulous spacey sax that catapults the song to a higher lever.

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Posted By: Jazzywoman
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 12:41
Had to go with Stargazer, as it is beautiful in every single way...R.I.P. Ronnie James Dio...Unhappy

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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 12:43
Stargazer. That song is just too awesome.


Posted By: 33rpm
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 14:20
Originally posted by Atoms Atoms wrote:

April, that's the song that got me into prog in the first place, I think the self titled album by Deep Purple is 100% prog, and even if I love the later material, I would've loved to see how far Deep Purple could've gone as a prog act.

April is without any doubt one of the best prog rock songs ever written, and it's not even done by a prog band. Every single prog fan should've heard it at least once.
 
I also choose "April" from my favorite Deep Purple album.


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Posted By: unclemeat69
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 14:22
Bohemian Rhapsody all the way, The Prophet's Song is also prog I think and several other songs listed too.

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Posted By: Mastosis
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 20:23
Originally posted by Nathaniel607 Nathaniel607 wrote:

Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Originally posted by Mastosis Mastosis wrote:

I nominate Before The Lobotomy by Green Day.
Green Day as Prog? Confused
 
Interesting.
 
I´ve found this one on You Tube, it sounds like Prog Punk.LOL

Meh. It's interesting hearing Greed Day using a chord sequence slightly more complex than their usual fair, but it's not exactly complex. I still can't stand the vocals. WTF... Green Day using 7/8? I actually don't believe it.

Still, Green Day have zero musicianship. They need a touring guitarist to play the solos. Listen to this solo 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNVoeH4wfx0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNVoeH4wfx0

I mean, Jesus, if they can't play that... they're absolutely pathetic.

Also, about the poll... haven't heard loads of these, but the two Queen songs are obvious choices. 


I would NEVER classify Green Day as prog, this song just popped into my head when I read the forum topic. The only "progressive" thing about Before The Lobotomy would be the 7/4 time signature, and the I-IV-V chords have been used in pretty much every single Green Day song.



Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 20:40
I nominate Intermezzo no.1 by ABBA.  


Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: December 25 2010 at 00:48
Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

^I comprehend. Wine and spirits generally are prohibited in your country, aren´t it?


my country is Lebanon in the middle east , from north Syria , from south Palestine & Israel , population 4.5 millions ( half of them are Christians ) so anything you can find here , specially good progressive bands , and good spirits !

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 25 2010 at 02:11
Child In Time
Stargazer
Bohemian Rapsody
A Day In The Life


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 25 2010 at 11:23
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Love is like Oxygen????

Sweet is the antithesis of Prog, Love is l Like Oxygen is a good song...But we are talking about a Glam band.

Iván

Sweet are not the antithesis of Prog. What a ridiculous statement. And to call Sweet a "Glam" band is not to know Sweet.

Love Is Like Oxygen is as Prog as any of the songs here.

Sweet not Glam?

THE FRONT PAGE OF THE OFFICIAL SWEET SITE RECOGNIZES THEM AS A GLAM BAND, AND NOT JUST AS ANY GLAM BAND, BUT AS THE EPITOME OF GLAM

Quote The Sweet epitomised the UK 70's Glam Rock movement with their trademark glitter and Glam makeup

http://thesweet.com/" rel="nofollow - http://thesweet.com/

For God's sake, if you don't accept that The Sweet were a Glam band, you are the one who doesn't know them (I grew with songs like Ballroom Blitz), even they describe themselves as Glam, or do you pretend to know more about them than themselves?

Yes they made a couple of good rock tracks, but even their appearence is of a Glam band



 

And no, I don't believe that "Love is like Oxygen" is Prog,. a great rock song but not Prog

So please, before calling other person's opinions ridiculous or accusing them of not knowing what they say, verify what the band believes of themselves.

Iván


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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 25 2010 at 13:27
I know less than half of these songs, but most of those I do know I like a lot.


Posted By: TheElement
Date Posted: December 25 2010 at 21:17
10cc - "Une Nuit a Paris"
 
10cc were much more of a Pop group with Art Rock influences, best known for their hits "I'm Not in Love" and "The Things We Do For Love"
 
Yet, "Une Nuit a Paris" is a three part suite that clocks in at 9 minutes, which has many key and tempo changes, as well as an unpredictable song structure (save for the Chorus).
 


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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 03:50
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Love is like Oxygen????

Sweet is the antithesis of Prog, Love is l Like Oxygen is a good song...But we are talking about a Glam band.

Iván

Sweet are not the antithesis of Prog. What a ridiculous statement. And to call Sweet a "Glam" band is not to know Sweet.

Love Is Like Oxygen is as Prog as any of the songs here.

Sweet not Glam?

THE FRONT PAGE OF THE OFFICIAL SWEET SITE RECOGNIZES THEM AS A GLAM BAND, AND NOT JUST AS ANY GLAM BAND, BUT AS THE EPITOME OF GLAM

Quote The Sweet epitomised the UK 70's Glam Rock movement with their trademark glitter and Glam makeup

http://thesweet.com/" rel="nofollow - http://thesweet.com/

For God's sake, if you don't accept that The Sweet were a Glam band, you are the one who doesn't know them (I grew with songs like Ballroom Blitz), even they describe themselves as Glam, or do you pretend to know more about them than themselves?

Yes they made a couple of good rock tracks, but even their appearence is of a Glam band

 

 

And no, I don't believe that "Love is like Oxygen" is Prog,. a great rock song but not Prog

So please, before calling other person's opinions ridiculous or accusing them of not knowing what they say, verify what the band believes of themselves.

Iván
 
I really don´t know any reason why some Glam Rock (or Hard Rock, Heavy Metal, Pop, etc...) artist wouldn´t record sometimes a kind of Prog Rock album or song.
Example: Elton John, Kiss, Sweet...
 
I believe that "Love Is Like Oxygen" is very related to Prog. But the final decision is on you all.


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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!



Posted By: sydbarrett2010
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 04:57
telegraph road - the end - bohemian rhapsody


Posted By: JeffELOLynne
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 05:11
Later albums of Sweet(like waterworks) are pure prog-pop in the line of ELO.  "Love is like oxygen",however simple it is, is a work of pure crossover prog. Brilliant!


Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 07:48
The Who - Love Reign O'er Me


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 09:20
Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

 
I really don´t know any reason why some Glam Rock (or Hard Rock, Heavy Metal, Pop, etc...) artist wouldn´t record sometimes a kind of Prog Rock album or song.
Example: Elton John, Kiss, Sweet...
 
I believe that "Love Is Like Oxygen" is very related to Prog. But the final decision is on you all.

Of  course some Pop, Rock, etc can be Prog (Even Salsa), like:

  • She's a Rainbow: Rolling Stones
  • I Don' Like Mondays: Bob Geldof and The Boomtown Rats
  • Buscando América: Ruben Blades (Latin Fusion by a Salsa Artist)
  • I'd Do Anything for Love: Meat Loaf
But I don't believe "I Don't Like Mondays" (A song  love, only bought the LP for that track) is Prog Related, being that The Sweet are from the 70's and always managed to keep a safe distance from Prog.

Iván


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 12:17
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Love is like Oxygen????

Sweet is the antithesis of Prog, Love is l Like Oxygen is a good song...But we are talking about a Glam band.

Iván

Sweet are not the antithesis of Prog. What a ridiculous statement. And to call Sweet a "Glam" band is not to know Sweet.

Love Is Like Oxygen is as Prog as any of the songs here.

Sweet not Glam?

THE FRONT PAGE OF THE OFFICIAL SWEET SITE RECOGNIZES THEM AS A GLAM BAND, AND NOT JUST AS ANY GLAM BAND, BUT AS THE EPITOME OF GLAM

Quote The Sweet epitomised the UK 70's Glam Rock movement with their trademark glitter and Glam makeup

http://thesweet.com/" rel="nofollow - http://thesweet.com/

For God's sake, if you don't accept that The Sweet were a Glam band, you are the one who doesn't know them (I grew with songs like Ballroom Blitz), even they describe themselves as Glam, or do you pretend to know more about them than themselves?

Yes they made a couple of good rock tracks, but even their appearence is of a Glam band



 

And no, I don't believe that "Love is like Oxygen" is Prog,. a great rock song but not Prog

So please, before calling other person's opinions ridiculous or accusing them of not knowing what they say, verify what the band believes of themselves.

Iván
 

The majority of their material is not Glam Rock. Most of their "Glam" stuff was written by Chinn/Chapman...basically the A sides of their major hit singles if the early seventies. Most of the self penned material is not. 

I have always been a fan of the band and have every album.

Of course the photos YOU choose are from their Glam period...where a ,lot of bands dressed up like this. I could show pictures of a naked woman and say " This woman is always naked".  David Bowie just a Glam act also?

I'm not getting into an extensive discusssion with you...frankly it is boring. You crave the last word too much.



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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 13:17
Snow Dog...The first phrase in the front page of their site claims they are the epitome of UK Glam Rock.

If I have to choose to whom believe...I choose them, they know who they were.

But at the end, you claim that because I said said they were a Glam Rock band I didn't knew them (Now you at least admit they had a Glam period)...Ergo, they don't know themselves according to you.

And of course you won't get into an extensive discussion, but because it's obvious they were a Glam Rock band, something they proudly admit

Iván



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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 13:19
The End.....


Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 13:23
It's so nice to have these band's straight-up called non-prog, not ifs or buts about it. :)

Child in Time or Stargazer.


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 13:30
Against my better judgement.....Sleepy

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Snow Dog...The first phrase in the front page of their site claims they are the epitome of UK Glam Rock.  Maybe they were for a period in time.

If I have to choose to whom believe...I choose them, they know who they were. Up to you...do you think i give a sh*t? hey you may have learnt something but never mind.

But at the end, you claim that because I said said they were a Glam Rock band I didn't knew them (Now you at least admit they had a Glam period) Never claimed they weren't...Ergo, they don't know themselves according to you. I don't know who wrote their website for sure. But if you want tp Pigeonhole them as a glam band thats up to......oh whatever.

And of course you won't get into an extensive discussion, but because it's obvious they were a Glam Rock band, something they proudly admit  No...really no. I just hate your arguments. They go on for ever. You trawl the internet for evidernce. Life itself becomes no fun. The very thread you inhabit becomes a place to avoid. It just ain't worth it. 

Iván



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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 13:43
Merry Christmas Snow Dog Wink

Iván


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Posted By: Varon
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 13:46
1.Child In Time
2.Bohemian Rhapsody 
3.Nights In White Satin


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 13:49
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Merry Christmas Snow Dog Wink

Iván
 He doesn't mean this. He sent me a rather nasty PM just now. 


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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 14:52
OK kids can we play nice.

Can we also stop hitting the Report Button. There are other threads and topics to play in....


Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 15:09
Stargazer now has 109 votes. WTF?


Posted By: JeffELOLynne
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 03:46
Snow Dog is right. They are very much prog in the way that Queen was in the early- to mid-seventies(" Action") and very much prog in the way that ELO and City Boy were in the late 70's(listen to "Tell the Truth"from 1980,a terrific song). Yes,they were glam,but they were also MORE. Slade,THAT was just a glam band,playing brainless rock n'roll tunes. But Sweet? Nah


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 03:55
From those listed, my picks are Child In Time, Stargazer and The End. I'd pick other songs from Zeppelin and The Who, though. 


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 04:08
Since Ivan has mentioned the Rolling Stones, I'd like to nominate Can't You Hear Me Knocking. 


Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 06:08
Well 3 of them are in a clear lead. LOL

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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 07:18
difficult to choose but i give my vote to the beatles ,have a listen to jeff beck cover ,it's great!!Thumbs Up


Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 09:25
Some metal fan´s hand (probably Forum Newbie) is just very painful by furious clicking. LOL
Beware of carpal tunnel syndrome!Angry


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Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
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Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 10:23
The Who and Deep Purple ARE prog. Gandalf get your sh*t together man! Beer

and no reason to vote now.... seriously what's the deal with vandalize a poll like this?


Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 10:42
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Snow Dog...The first phrase in the front page of their site claims they are the epitome of UK Glam Rock.

If I have to choose to whom believe...I choose them, they know who they were.

But at the end, you claim that because I said said they were a Glam Rock band I didn't knew them (Now you at least admit they had a Glam period)...Ergo, they don't know themselves according to you.

And of course you won't get into an extensive discussion, but because it's obvious they were a Glam Rock band, something they proudly admit

Iván


Kiss claims they are "THE HARDEST BAND IN THE WORLD" do you believe them? LOL


Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 10:42
Green Day Hug That's all I have to say in this thread.

Oh wait, I voted for Telegraph Road. Some heavy metal fans around here have way too much time on their hands, considering the votes certain songs have gotten.


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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 10:50
Originally posted by Jörgemeister Jörgemeister wrote:

The Who and Deep Purple ARE prog. Gandalf get your sh*t together man! Beer

and no reason to vote now.... seriously what's the deal with vandalize a poll like this?
The Who And Deep Purple ARE Proto Prog. Therefore they aren´t counted to "Real" Prog. They are on PA but somewhat on the margin.
About b*****dization of the poll by some clicker it´s a pity and I didn´t expect this.

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Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 10:54
i think if PA would catalog by albums and not by artists albums like "quadrophenia" and "machine head" or "in rock" will be under prog.

what do you think?

btw does the poll allows multiple choice?


Posted By: steppenfloyd
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 11:11
Nights In White Satin or The End


Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 11:14
Originally posted by Jörgemeister Jörgemeister wrote:

i think if PA would catalog by albums and not by artists albums like "quadrophenia" and "machine head" or "in rock" will be under prog.

what do you think?

btw does the poll allows multiple choice?
Multiple votes are allowed. You can actually try it. Though that´s primarily thought as voting for several favourite options, not for multiple clicking for one option. This one wouldn´t be permitted.Thumbs Down
 
Regarding your first idea, I mean it would be more fair. But it´s for longer debate.


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Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 11:40
but we at PA love debates Tongue

btw i got my name changed my name (in case you havent notice)


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 11:52
Originally posted by Jörgemeister Jörgemeister wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Snow Dog...The first phrase in the front page of their site claims they are the epitome of UK Glam Rock.

If I have to choose to whom believe...I choose them, they know who they were.

But at the end, you claim that because I said said they were a Glam Rock band I didn't knew them (Now you at least admit they had a Glam period)...Ergo, they don't know themselves according to you.

And of course you won't get into an extensive discussion, but because it's obvious they were a Glam Rock band, something they proudly admit

Iván


Kiss claims they are "THE HARDEST BAND IN THE WORLD" do you believe them? LOL

No, but the case is different.

Every Metal band claims to be the hardest one, because that's some sort of achievement for them, very few claim to be a Glam band, because the term Glam is seen as derogatory by some fans.

Still The Sweet say with pride  in their official website that they are the epitome of the Glam movement (They could had said they were a Rock band, but no, they placed emphasis and with no shame in the Glam aspect), and with a good reason, because Glam bands made great music, I was never offensive with the band, i said they made great rock tracks, but seems that some fans feel offended when their favorite band is not cataloged as Prog, as if Prog was an award or an achievement.

There are great and terrible Prog bands, in the same way that there are terrible and amazing Glam bands, Bowie during this era did good music, hey, I even liked the pomp of bands like Europe, The Sweet made some amazing tracks, but they shout they are Glam, they dressed as Glam, they are recognized as pioneers of the Glam movement...Denying they were a great Glam band is absurd and full of prejudice.

This doesn't mean they are bad or brainless, they made great music, but Prog...................No way, not even a track IMHO.

If somebody feels offended with this...bad luck, I say my truth even if people don't like it.

Iván


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Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 12:03
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Jörgemeister Jörgemeister wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Snow Dog...The first phrase in the front page of their site claims they are the epitome of UK Glam Rock.

If I have to choose to whom believe...I choose them, they know who they were.

But at the end, you claim that because I said said they were a Glam Rock band I didn't knew them (Now you at least admit they had a Glam period)...Ergo, they don't know themselves according to you.

And of course you won't get into an extensive discussion, but because it's obvious they were a Glam Rock band, something they proudly admit

Iván


Kiss claims they are "THE HARDEST BAND IN THE WORLD" do you believe them? LOL

No, but the case is different.

Every Metal band claims to be the hardest one, because that's some sort of achievement for them, very few claim to be a Glam band, because the term Glam is seen as derogatory by some fans.

Still The Sweet say with pride  in their official website that they are the epitome of the Glam movement (They could had said they were a Rock band, but no, they placed emphasis and with no shame in the Glam aspect), and with a good reason, because Glam bands made great music, I was never offensive with the band, i said they made great rock tracks, but seems that some fans feel offended when their favorite band is not cataloged as Prog, as if Prog was an award or an achievement.

There are great and terrible Prog bands, in the same way that there are terrible and amazing Glam bands, Bowie during this era did good music, hey, I even liked the pomp of bands like Europe, The Sweet made some amazing tracks, but they shout they are Glam, they dressed as Glam, they are recognized as pioneers of the Glam movement...Denying they were a great Glam band is absurd and full of prejudice.

This doesn't mean they are bad or brainless, they made great music, but Prog...................No way, not even a track IMHO.

If somebody feels offended with this...bad luck, I say my truth even if people don't like it.

Iván

Genres are a very vague concepts, and ever changing.
take a recognized prog band eg: Genesis, they werent prog anymore at some point, but still know as "progressive music" although it was closer to some pop form.

I dont know the sweet, im just bored. but most bands "goes with the flow" as a plublicitary move, maybe they felt they could gather more fans dressing like that and claiming to be glam? Kiss could fit into glam too, but they chose to say they are "the hardest band in the world" and people catalog them as metal(?)

my point is: do not believe what you read, specially in the internet. even if it comes from the source itself.

eg: I, Jörgemeister, claim to be the most progressive of the prog fans. LOL

Cheers.


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 12:50
Originally posted by Jörgemeister Jörgemeister wrote:

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my point is: do not believe what you read, specially in the internet. even if it comes from the source itself.


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I agree, wouldn't dare to talk about a band I don't know.

I grew with The Sweet, I danced "Ballroom Blitz" in every party since I was 13, had all the albums ffrom "Funny how Sweet Co-Co Sweet Can Be" (1971) up to "Level Headed" (1978) when I lost the interest in them, but I also listened everything they did until "Identity Crisis".

But when you enter in a discussion, you can't give your opinion exclusively, you have to give evidence, and what better than the one in their official site?

Iván


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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 12:55
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Jörgemeister Jörgemeister wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Snow Dog...The first phrase in the front page of their site claims they are the epitome of UK Glam Rock.

If I have to choose to whom believe...I choose them, they know who they were.

But at the end, you claim that because I said said they were a Glam Rock band I didn't knew them (Now you at least admit they had a Glam period)...Ergo, they don't know themselves according to you.

And of course you won't get into an extensive discussion, but because it's obvious they were a Glam Rock band, something they proudly admit

Iván


Kiss claims they are "THE HARDEST BAND IN THE WORLD" do you believe them? LOL

Every Metal band claims to be the hardest one, because that's some sort of achievement for them, very few claim to be a Glam band, because the term Glam is seen as derogatory by some fans.


That's not true AT ALL. Confused


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 12:55
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Jörgemeister Jörgemeister wrote:

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my point is: do not believe what you read, specially in the internet. even if it comes from the source itself.


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I agree, wouldn't dare to talk about a band I don't know.

I grew with The Sweet, I danced "Ballroom Blitz" in every party since I was 13, had all the albums ffrom "Funny how Sweet Co-Co Sweet Can Be" (1971) up to "Level Headed" (1978) when I lost the interest in them, but I also listened everything they did until "Identity Crisis".

But when you enter in a discussion, you can't give your opinion exclusively, you have to give evidence, and what better than the one in their official site?

Iván


But you always say, when you reject suggestions for Symphonic, that we shouldn't care if the bands call themselves symphonic, or prog, because what the bands say isn't reliable at all. I guess you only say this when it favours your point of view LOL Tongue


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 13:23
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

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But you always say, when you reject suggestions for Symphonic, that we shouldn't care if the bands call themselves symphonic, or prog, because what the bands say isn't reliable at all. I guess you only say this when it favours your point of view LOL Tongue

Of course Harmonium

  1. My personal experience creates my opinion
  2. The printed material, photos, interviews and web pages are used ti support my opinion.
Unlike other persons I don't claim that X band plays Prog or Rock or Glam Rock or whatever because I say so. Much less I call ignorants to those who disagree with me, I give my opinion and I support it with whatever is available.

When we add a band to Symphonic, we rely in our opinion as a team, but what other sites say and the information provided by web sites is a useful aid to confirm what we think.

Iván.


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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 13:29
Originally posted by Ivan Ivan wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

 

Every Metal band claims to be the hardest one, because that's some sort of achievement for them, very few claim to be a Glam band, because the term Glam is seen as derogatory by some fans.


That's not true AT ALL. Confused

The loudest, the hardest, the toughest, etc, are terms that MANY (have to be precise because seems that people can't understand figures of speech) bands use to describe themselves.

But when a band uses a term like Glam (which has negative connotations) to describe themselves...I believe them.

And when a band dresses like this:



To promote their greatest hits...I confirm what I suspected.

Iván


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Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 14:42
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

And when a band dresses like this:



To promote their greatest hits...I confirm what I suspected.

Iván

that they are transvestites from outer space? Shocked


Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 14:58
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan Ivan wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

 

Every Metal band claims to be the hardest one, because that's some sort of achievement for them, very few claim to be a Glam band, because the term Glam is seen as derogatory by some fans.


That's not true AT ALL. Confused

The loudest, the hardest, the toughest, etc, are terms that MANY (have to be precise because seems that people can't understand figures of speech) bands use to describe themselves. That's debatable, but no matter what, it's entirely different than what you said in your previous post. Now you're saying that MANY bands use these adjectives, whereas in the previous post you said "every metal band claims to be the hardest one", which is even more incorrect.

But when a band uses a term like Glam (which has negative connotations) to describe themselves...I believe them. I have no place to get involved in the discussion about Sweet. However, this comment is also heavily debatable/incorrect. Glam does not always have negative connotations- many metal fans (myself included) don't enjoy glam metal very much, but some of the most critically and commercially praised metal albums are glam metal.



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Posted By: Matthew T
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 15:10
Just needed to see The Beatles look respectable. Gee, A Day In The Life is popular Wink

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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 15:15
Seventh Son of a Seventh Son of a Seventh Son of a Seventh Son of a Seventh Son....oops, couple too many Wink

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Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 15:58
^ two more and uou'd have seven seventh sons of seventh sons


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 21:25
I would hav liked to see "Faith Healer" by the Sensational Alex Harvey Band on the list

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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 28 2010 at 01:58
I´m afraid that this band is less well-known. But thanks for your tip, I´ll search for it.

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 28 2010 at 03:15
Nights In White Satin (The Moody Blues)
A Day In The Life (The Beatles)
Kashmir (Led Zeppelin)
The End (The Doors)

Explanations will cost you extra.  Just went with my favs of those I know on the list.


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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: December 29 2010 at 11:25
Great list. I voted for The Beatles-A Day in the Life. Can't go wrong with any of them really.


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: December 29 2010 at 12:15
Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

I´m afraid that this band is less well-known. But thanks for your tip, I´ll search for it.

you don't know "Faith Healer"? unbelievable; I thought everyone knew that song. if I had a dollar for everytime I danced to it.... well, here it is:

http://tinyurl.com/3ad3ol5" rel="nofollow - http://tinyurl.com/3ad3ol5

just ignore the ads at the beginning and the end; it was the only place where I could find the studio version




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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 29 2010 at 15:35
^So, I´ve found it before. To be honest, this is a kind of mediocre Glam rock band with certainly bad singer.

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Fanuilos, le linnathon
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: December 29 2010 at 20:29
I even agree, but "Faith Healer" is something special

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Posted By: michellemjk
Date Posted: December 29 2010 at 22:56
The Beatles - A Day In The Life


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 03:35
Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

^So, I´ve found it before. To be honest, this is a kind of mediocre Glam rock band with certainly bad singer.

by the way: there are a lot of glam rock elements in  prog, an important point which is missing in our own site's iintroduction to prog. just look at the stage costumes of ELP or of Yes! Peter Gabriel's various costumes also are a very glam rock thing. Queen and Roxy Music are just one step away from glam rock. the prog-related David Bowie is an icon of glam rock. look around and you will certainly find a lot more examples


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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 05:11
^Also Glam Rockers?
Black Sabbath Sabotage album cover LOL

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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 05:15
Originally posted by yanch yanch wrote:

Great list. I voted for The Beatles-A Day in the Life. Can't go wrong with any of them really.
   yes!!! great song!! i was at jeff beck show in france a few months ago and he played a great instrumental cover of this song, you can have a listen on the dvd live at ronnie scottsThumbs Up


Posted By: ThinLizzy
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 05:38
Bohemian Rhapsody (Queen)
A Day In The Life (The Beatles)
Child In Time (Deep Purple)
Kashmir (Led Zeppelin)
The End (The Doors)

No comments! Wink


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Posted By: JeffELOLynne
Date Posted: December 31 2010 at 02:54
May I nominate Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti??? They made some terrific arty songs with a 70's feel in it on their latest albums(2009). Certainly check Fright Night, Round & Round and Little Wig(hilarious!!!!). Also check New trumpets of time.


Posted By: JeffELOLynne
Date Posted: December 31 2010 at 02:57
Todd Rundgren definitily gotta be in it aswell...


Posted By: JeffELOLynne
Date Posted: December 31 2010 at 02:58
There's nothing prog about Albatross,it's a dull blues song:the opposit of exciting prog!!!! Grrrrr....


Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: December 31 2010 at 03:20
Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

^Also Glam Rockers?
Black Sabbath Sabotage album cover LOL
 
Horrid, horrid album cover. Brilliant, brilliant album.
 
I find that most of my favorite songs are prog songs by artists who aren'ts necessarily prog themselves.
 
What a tough poll.


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