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Topic: Marillion or Queen?Posted By: Gandalff
Subject: Marillion or Queen?
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 07:28
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Fanuilos, le linnathon
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Replies: Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 07:30
Posted By: EnderEd
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 07:49
I chose Marillion-- I realized after all these years that I basically enjoyed Queen's Brian May compositions
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 08:00
Queen
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 08:04
A rather close call, but I voted for Marillion.
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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 08:04
Marillion for me.They interest me more.
Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 08:07
Even though I am not as fond of recent Marillion I still listen to them a lot more than Queen. Vote goes to Marillion.
Posted By: dedokras
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 08:42
Queen, especially their 70s albums.
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 08:48
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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 09:19
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 09:27
By a country mile.....
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Posted By: Tychovski
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 09:37
Queen, no question.
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 10:28
Regardless of the fact that Queen's discography is only vaguely imprented on my mind I consider it fairly safe to assume that they made more than four (4) great albums.
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 10:59
Queen. No doubt.
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 11:09
Marillion by FAR
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Posted By: Nakatira
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 12:04
Queen, easily.
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 12:44
Marillion, for both, their neo-prog period and their more "crossover prog" period.
Queen was a very talented band, even prog at times, but I was never fond of them.
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 19:11
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 20:06
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 20:55
Queen's really under-appreciated here. Marilliion had a run of four pretty great albums, but Queen did it for longer than that. Night/Day album duo really is a fine legacy just by itself.
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Posted By: ProgShine
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 20:59
I really, really don't get the parallel between both bands, both are great.
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: December 20 2010 at 01:02
SaltyJon wrote:
I don't like Marillion, I do like Queen.
^
My sig speaks for itself.
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: December 20 2010 at 05:17
only on a prog site can Marillion compet and get even with one of the mastodonts of rock, that is Queen.
both bands are over generally good, i think Marillion learnd more tricks from Queen then vica versa
oh Mat it stil looks like that man on your sig is masturbating (or just having a blast)
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Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: December 20 2010 at 07:15
The question is not, who influenced who, but who you like more. I like Fish-era Marillion more than anything from Queen.
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: December 20 2010 at 14:10
At their best, I will choose Marillion by 2982031 miles.
At their worst, I'll probably have more doubts.
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: December 20 2010 at 14:25
aginor wrote:
i think Marillion learnd more tricks from Queen then vica versa
I would doubt that anyone on the site could name one tiny part of any Marillion track which was influenced by Queen
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: December 20 2010 at 15:44
The Quiet One wrote:
Lark the Starless wrote:
The guys that made that superb debut album....and not Queen.
Script for a Jester's Tear
Hell yes.
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Posted By: Harold-The-Barrel
Date Posted: January 06 2011 at 10:49
Marillion by two country miles
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Posted By: Lozlan
Date Posted: January 06 2011 at 14:07
Queen. Marillion bore the socks off me.
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 06 2011 at 14:07
Lozlan wrote:
Queen. Marillion bore the socks off me.
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: January 06 2011 at 14:11
Historically I've known Queen for a lot longer than Marillion, but in recent years I've listened to Marillion a lot more, so my vote goes to Marillion, but I love both bands.
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: January 06 2011 at 14:58
Queen. No question. I've been in love with them since I was a little kid
and still I'm faithful. I own their whole discography (but the last
studio album with Paul Rodgers but it's not really Queen).
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: January 14 2011 at 02:47
Marillion. Queen makes me cringe.
Posted By: moodyxadi
Date Posted: January 17 2011 at 19:52
another poll that can't be serious made by the same guy.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 17 2011 at 20:40
I have no interest in Queen, but I have a bunch of Marillion, My policy is to never speak ill of an artist I don't know very well.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 18 2011 at 02:09
Queen because their less interesting stuff is better than Marillion's less interesting stuff
Posted By: clarkpegasus4001
Date Posted: January 18 2011 at 10:50
Queen, up until 1975!.....Ogre Battle! phwoooor Tony C.
Posted By: Lizzy
Date Posted: January 18 2011 at 11:18
richardh wrote:
Queen because their less interesting stuff is better than Marillion's most interesting stuff
My version. I really hope that was not the fangirl in me making the judgement.
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Posted By: Mr.GizaRainbow
Date Posted: March 26 2011 at 21:20
prefer Queen... Mercury's voice is incredible
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Posted By: Ruby900
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 01:16
Marillion for. I absolutely Hate Queen with a passion - hateful music!
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Posted By: Gandalfino
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 07:25
Queen by miles...
Posted By: StarMan2112
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 09:01
Queen No Doubt
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 09:25
Queen was simply a better band, and only on this website would a derivative group like Marillion be in the same discussion. The three consecutive albums Queen II,Sheer Heart Attack and A Night at the Opera are simply amazing. Controlled madness.
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 11:36
Queen.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 11:49
Another completely random chosen (bands) poll; why compare these two bands that have nothing in common?
I've voted for Marillion.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 11:53
Cristi wrote:
Another completely random chosen (bands) poll; why compare these two bands that have nothing in common?
I've voted for Marillion.
I really disagree that they have nothing in common. Why do you believe so?
By the way, I wonder how a Queen cover of this Marillion track would've sounded.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 12:12
^ they have nothing in common musically.
I've heard they toured together in the 80s, what do they have in common musically?
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 12:18
Cristi wrote:
^ they have nothing in common musically.
I've heard they toured together in the 80s, what do they have in common musically?
I was thinking musically -- just added that video in an edit as an afterthought. I think it helps to show that they can appeal to the same kind of audience, though. And I figured Queen might have been an infleunce on marillion music
I'd say they have both made similar styled music,. Both can be very dramatic, both have made AOR, Arena rockish music. To me the music is not worlds apart. And both have made proggy music. Id say they're 'more similar than other music in the archives, say comparing Marillion with Univers Zero.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 12:24
Logan wrote:
[QUOTE=Cristi]^ they have nothing in common musically.
I've heard they toured together in the 80s, what do they have in common musically?
I was thinking musically -- just added that video in an edit as an afterthought. I think it helps to show that they can appeal to the same kind of audience, though. And I figured Queen might have been an infleunce on marillion music
I'd say they have both made similar styled music,. Both can be very dramatic, both have made AOR, Arena rockish music. To me the music is not worlds apart. And both have made proggy music. Id say they're 'more similar than other music in the archives, say comparing Marillion with Univers Zero.
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You cannot base your argument on only one song; Marillion does not play neither arena rock, nor AOR. Queen did not influence Marillion in any way.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 12:37
Cristi wrote:
Logan wrote:
[QUOTE=Cristi]^ they have nothing in common musically.
I've heard they toured together in the 80s, what do they have in common musically?
I was thinking musically -- just added that video in an edit as an afterthought. I think it helps to show that they can appeal to the same kind of audience, though. And I figured Queen might have been an infleunce on marillion music
I'd say they have both made similar styled music,. Both can be very dramatic, both have made AOR, Arena rockish music. To me the music is not worlds apart. And both have made proggy music. Id say they're 'more similar than other music in the archives, say comparing Marillion with Univers Zero.
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You cannot base your argument on only one song; Marillion does not play neither arena rock, nor AOR. Queen did not influence Marillion in any way.
MArillion and Queen have played at gigs together, not just that one, which to me indicates that the music appeals to similar audiences. I had not read that Queen was influenced by Marillion, just my impression, but looking up wkipedia just now, which I know is not the most reliable resource, it mentions Queen being an influence:
"The early works of Marillion contained Fish's poetic and introspective
lyrics melded with a complex and subtle musical tapestry to create a
sound that reflected the band's influences, notably http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_%28band%29" rel="nofollow - Queen , early http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_%28band%29" rel="nofollow - Genesis , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Floyd" rel="nofollow - Pink Floyd , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_der_Graaf_Generator" rel="nofollow - Van der Graaf Generator , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_%28band%29" rel="nofollow - Rush (specifically from the late 1970s), and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_%28band%29" rel="nofollow - Yes .
Marillion's first recording was a demo tape produced by Les Payne in
July 1981 that included early versions of "He Knows You Know", "Garden
Party", and "Charting the Single".
I'm not sure why you don't at least consider Marillion AORish. I could see both bands have albums reviewed in a melodic rock/ AOR website.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 12:49
Logan wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Logan wrote:
[QUOTE=Cristi]^ they have nothing in common musically.
I've heard they toured together in the 80s, what do they have in common musically?
I was thinking musically -- just added that video in an edit as an afterthought. I think it helps to show that they can appeal to the same kind of audience, though. And I figured Queen might have been an infleunce on marillion music
I'd say they have both made similar styled music,. Both can be very dramatic, both have made AOR, Arena rockish music. To me the music is not worlds apart. And both have made proggy music. Id say they're 'more similar than other music in the archives, say comparing Marillion with Univers Zero.
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You cannot base your argument on only one song; Marillion does not play neither arena rock, nor AOR. Queen did not influence Marillion in any way.
MArillion and Queen have played at gigs together, not just that one, which to me indicates that the music appeals to similar audiences. I had not read that Queen was influenced by Marillion, just my impression, but looking up wkipedia just now, which I know is not the most reliable resource, it mentions Queen being an influence:
"The early works of Marillion contained Fish's poetic and introspective
lyrics melded with a complex and subtle musical tapestry to create a
sound that reflected the band's influences, notably http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_%28band%29" rel="nofollow - Queen , early http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_%28band%29" rel="nofollow - Genesis , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Floyd" rel="nofollow - Pink Floyd , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_der_Graaf_Generator" rel="nofollow - Van der Graaf Generator , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_%28band%29" rel="nofollow - Rush (specifically from the late 1970s), and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_%28band%29" rel="nofollow - Yes .
Marillion's first recording was a demo tape produced by Les Payne in
July 1981 that included early versions of "He Knows You Know", "Garden
Party", and "Charting the Single".
I'm not sure why you don't at least consider Marillion AORish. I could see both bands have albums reviewed in a melodic rock/ AOR website.
I do not hear Queen influences in Marillion's music. Or Rush influences
Posted By: Passionist
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 13:11
No no no what come one bullsh*t! Queen's got nothing on Marillion. You people are crazy. -_-
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 13:16
Passionist wrote:
No no no what come one bullsh*t! Queen's got nothing on Marillion. You people are crazy. -_-
wish i could reply to that if only I understood what you are trying to say.
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 13:16
Queen by miles. Misplaced Childhood is good though.
Posted By: king prog
Date Posted: March 27 2011 at 18:03
Marillion all the way
Posted By: overmatik
Date Posted: March 29 2011 at 14:28
I prefer Queen but that is just because I don't care for Marillion post-Fish. If they had stayed together Marillion would now be among the great.
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Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: March 29 2011 at 20:36
Queen.
Their 70's stuff is just perfect, specially the 74-76 period.
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Posted By: silcir
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 14:30
Marillion.
Posted By: Harold-The-Barrel
Date Posted: April 07 2011 at 12:02
I rather prefer Marillion
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Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: April 07 2011 at 15:35
but what's the comparison between queen and marillion? you'vegot time to waste
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: April 18 2011 at 18:23
The Truth wrote:
Queen by miles. Misplaced Childhood is good though.
Same for me, Misplaced Childhood is the only Marillion album i like, while i like alot of Queen albums.
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Posted By: ShipOfFools
Date Posted: April 18 2011 at 18:32
Marillion, most definitely.
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