Queen or post-Gabriel Genesis?
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Topic: Queen or post-Gabriel Genesis?
Posted By: Gandalff
Subject: Queen or post-Gabriel Genesis?
Date Posted: December 18 2010 at 08:54
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Studio albums and their PA ratings:
Queen
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 18 2010 at 09:00
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Queen probably.....no...I don't know. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: December 18 2010 at 09:07
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Post-Gabriel Genesis is more interesting than Queen.Sorry but I like them more. |
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 18 2010 at 09:13
Don´t apologize, this is your opinion.
(My opinion is opposite incidentally.) ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Prog Geo wrote:Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: December 18 2010 at 09:18
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It's not even close for me.GENESIS ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: December 18 2010 at 09:43
I apologize for safety.The safety of no accusement. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 18 2010 at 09:53
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Genesis. Not really close, but not by a long distance either. ------------- 
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: December 18 2010 at 10:07
| Queen, quite comfortably. Before they got boring from News of the World onwards, they made a whole bunch of fabulous albums that would give a run for its money to even Gabriel-Genesis at least for my taste, let alone post-Gab. |
Posted By: Lozlan
Date Posted: December 18 2010 at 10:24
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Queen, Queen, a thousand times Queen. I happen to love their 80s output as well, and Innuendo is a masterpiece, plain and simple.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 18 2010 at 10:49
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Early Queen were a better Prog band than post-Gabriel Genesis and later Queen a far, far better Pop band. ------------- What? |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: December 18 2010 at 11:25
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Genesis. Ane not even close. ------------- 
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 18 2010 at 11:29
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I guess we need a Marillion vs Queen poll where Queen beat Marillion and the circle is complete. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Lizzy
Date Posted: December 18 2010 at 12:20
This. Sheesh! Some people!  I also happen to love The Game and Hot Space. ------------- Property of Queen Productions... 
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Posted By: Lozlan
Date Posted: December 18 2010 at 14:40
Amen! I love putting on Hot Space and just reveling in the glorious wrongness of it. Amazing music with an admittedly misguided aim, but totally enjoyable and a worthy entry in the Queen canon. The Game is also a favorite, although my absolute favorite album from the entire 80s is The Works. Also, if we're counting Queen material from 74 onwards, that includes Queen II, which is one of the finest, most eclectic prog albums ever made. I'll take it over Genesis any day, pre-or-post 1976. Okay. Rant complete. For now.  ------------- Certified Obscure Prog Fart. http://scottjcouturier.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - The Loose Palace of Exile - My first novel, The Mask of Tamrel, now available on Amazon and Kindle |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: December 18 2010 at 15:48
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Queen :) ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: Nakatira
Date Posted: December 18 2010 at 15:53
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Easily Queen, in fact I prefer Queen to Genesis in general.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 18 2010 at 16:16
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Post Gabriel Genesis by a mile. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: December 18 2010 at 17:28
| Genesis. I like some of Queen's songs. I own Jazz, which I quite like. But I never was much interested in Queen. |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: December 18 2010 at 18:22
| Queen for me. |
Posted By: Tychovski
Date Posted: December 18 2010 at 20:56
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Queen ------------- Everyone knows rock attained perfection in 1974, it's a scientific fact. |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: December 18 2010 at 21:06
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Queen by a mile. They surpassed everything post-Gabriel Genesis attempted to do. Gay pop songs? Queen dominates. Prog-influenced Rock? Queen dominates. Flamboyant frontman? Please, you can't get more flamboyant than Freddy in cut off jeans. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: December 19 2010 at 19:15
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Queen rules compared to post-Hackett Genesis. But I find Trick and Wind to be very excellent albums and millions times better then any album after that. So if those 2 were not counted Queen, if those 2 were all we were counting, well its close. I didn't vote.
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Posted By: Harold-The-Barrel
Date Posted: January 05 2011 at 07:11
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Genesis for me, I can't remember liking any Queen album in its entirety!
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Posted By: geneyesontle
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 09:22
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Queen. Trick of The Tail and W&W are good, but all the other album cannot be compared from Queen. ------------- Poseidon wants to Acquire the Taste of the Fragile Lamb - Derek Adrian Gabriel Anderson, singer of the band Geneyesontle |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 10:09
| Genesis. They still had some good stuff post-Gabriel and even though Queen have done some good things, I don't like them as much as Genesis. |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 10:33
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Queen, no matter Gabriel- or post-Gabriel Genesis. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 10:48
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Considering I hate Queen, I love early Collins Genesis (A Trick of the Tail, Wind & Wuthering), this was a no-brainer. I mean Wind & Wuthering is one of my favorite albums of all-time. Like I'm going to pick a band like Queen over Genesis. I DON'T THINK SO!!! ------------- “Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov |
Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 11:08
| I'm interested in both mainly for the singles, not so much the albums. And Queen definitely have the better singles. |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 11:36
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Genesis because better. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 11:57
Screw the singles! Genesis sold out. As far as I'm concerned, there was no Genesis post-1976. Genesis' A Trick of the Tail and Wind & Wuthering were two albums that Queen WISHED they could have made. They simply lacked the musical skills and intellect. ------------- “Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov |
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 12:28
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Post Gabriel Genesis. I love what they did after he left. Some good prog and some of the best pop music ever. I don't like Queen nearly as much
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 12:29
They did not sell out! They just wanted to make pop! I know it's your opinion and I respect that, but I just want to rip you to f**king shreds! ------------- http://bit.ly/1kqTR8y" rel="nofollow"> The greatest record label of all time! |
Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 12:36
Well, maybe they wanted to make "pop" albums. I find them all terribly disturbed to throw their talents out the window. I seriously thought they needed medication for making such an uncreative decision, especially Phil Collins who gave up his God given drumming ability to play "pop" music. Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford were just along for the ride. Collins killed that band with his pop star delusions.
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 12:36
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And Queen may not've been as good as Genesis, but lacked musical skills and intellect? What the f**k is wrong with you? I know it's you're opinion, but you're making me so f**king mad!
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 12:40
Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford have said many times before that all three of them wanted to move on to pop. I mean, some of their popiest songs are written by them! And what the hell is so wrong with them going pop? They made some of the best pop music of all time! ------------- http://bit.ly/1kqTR8y" rel="nofollow"> The greatest record label of all time! |
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 12:43
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I'm just gonna stop. I'm done with this argument.
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 12:47
I didn't realize we were arguing.  We simply are in disagreement, which happens all the time.------------- “Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 12:49
------------- What? |
Posted By: Prog Sothoth
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 12:52
I seriously doubt the guys in Queen wished they made something like W&W instead of A Night At The Opera and other assorted iconic rock & pop tunes.
Musically, skillwise, Queen are probably the stronger band...certainly vocally.
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Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 13:11
Why?
That's preposterous. I can see why one wouldn't enjoy Queen's music, but questioning their musical talents is silly. Very few bands would be able to convincingly perform a song like Bohemian Rhapsody. Not to mention that as songwriters, Genesis without Peter Gabriel were vastly inferior to Queen. And I say that despite potentially preferring Trick over any Queen album.
They never threw their talents out the window. But when the songs you write become less complex (a good decision considering disasters like "One for the Vine"), doesn't it make sense to simplify your playing? Instrumental skills are fine and all, but they mean nothing if you don't have good songs.
Now that's just not true. |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: August 14 2012 at 22:58
You really mean that YOU wish Queen had made an album like W&W. I don't, no 70s Queen is as sleepy as W&W. Don't know much about their 80s work, which I have largely avoided. And I highly doubt Queen wish they could swap A Day at The Races or Jazz with those albums, let alone Queen II or Night at the Opera.
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Posted By: Raccoon
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 00:15
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I simply LOVE A Trick Of The Tail and Wind & Wuthering (nearly my favorite Genesis album) but I also love A Night At The Opera and Queen II. I'd feel bad if I voted for Genesis so no vote love them both too much
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Posted By: AEProgman
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 22:04
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Since it is Genesis post Gabriel, although I did enjoy "Then there were Three", I lean towards Queen. I really enjoyed Queen II, Sheer Heart Attack, and Night at the Opera at that time. Nice Vangelis reference Raccoon! China was one of my favorites.------------- 
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 23 2012 at 18:55
| Don't know so much Queen, but for what I have heard, I go with Genesis, barely. |
Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: August 23 2012 at 23:52
| Genesis, easily |
Posted By: cqc19_genesis
Date Posted: August 28 2012 at 12:40
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very easily, QUEEN!! the notes for me not relevant.. the cosmos rocks 1,68? i'm disagree by putting an example.. it's my opinion! (Queen is my favourite group, i'm a very good fan).
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Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: August 28 2012 at 12:58
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Actually, I may have to retract what I said earlier. I'm currently on a listening spree of Duke, Abacab and Genesis. And while I find them all consistent, they all have a number of tracks I really love. Duke may be a four-star album, the other two are three stars. And I like Trick a lot anyway (W&W not so much). I still don't know how Queen compares to this because I'm not very familiar with most of their albums, but I might be starting to prefer the Genesis singles (A Trick of the Tail, Follow You Follow Me, Turn It On Again, Duchess, Misunderstanding, Abacab, Man on the Corner, Mama, That's All, Home by the Sea, Land of Confusion, Jesus He Knows Me). |
Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: September 11 2012 at 13:02
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For me a good discussion would be 70s Queen vs Gabriel's Genesis and 80's Queen vs Post-Gabriel Genesis. But as it is here it's Queen and not even close. ------------- I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place |
Posted By: Ytse_Jam
Date Posted: September 16 2012 at 16:51
| Though I like post-Gabriel Genesis very much, especially their late 70s, Queen have made a lot of great songs and true rock anthems..! |
Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: September 16 2012 at 22:47
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This is a tough one for me. Queen was the first rock band I ever got into. And Genesis overall is my favorite band and the Collins-led era has produced some excellent prog and even occasionally some excellent pop. They've also put out a few steaming piles, but then so have Queen. This is almost like asking me to choose between my right and left leg. As to the discussion about Cosmos Rocks, I liked the album too, although I wish there were a couple more May songs and that Taylor and May had done the album without an outside vocalist. But it was cool having an album made up of over half Taylor songs. ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: Chozal
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 18:31
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Queen all the way for me. Wind and Wuthering did not much for me, and Trick of the Tail sounded too academic for my taste.
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Posted By: menawati
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 20:19
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Early Queen - Queen 2, first side of Sheer Hear Attack and Night at the Opera are brilliant (but 'Entangled' slays anything Queen ever did.) ------------- They flutter behind you your possible pasts, Some bright-eyed and crazy, some frightened and lost. |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: September 28 2012 at 22:26
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Had to go with Queen. They win three albums to two: Queen II, Shear Heart Attack and A Night at the Opera over A Trick of the Tail and Wind and Wuthering. The rest of either band's catalogs mean nothing to me. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: FunkyHomoSapien
Date Posted: September 29 2012 at 05:07
| Strange comparison, like cheese or chicken. |
Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: October 14 2012 at 10:45
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Some great post-Gabriel albums, especially W&W...Hackett was great on that record. Queen was a different beast completely....no comparison really. Apples and oranges. ------------- I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there..... |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 14 2012 at 11:03
Hmmm.... apples and oranges. Both good with...  . cheese and chicken  ------------- What? |
Posted By: geneyesontle
Date Posted: October 14 2012 at 12:50
I think for the first one, Gabriel Genesis would win easily. ------------- Poseidon wants to Acquire the Taste of the Fragile Lamb - Derek Adrian Gabriel Anderson, singer of the band Geneyesontle |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: October 14 2012 at 22:31
| post-Gabriel Genesis, because of TOTT, W&W and Duke |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: October 14 2012 at 23:27
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1- ATOTT & W&W 2.- Early Queen 3.- Middle Queen 4.- Late Queen 5.- Anything except 3 men Genesis So I won't vote because would be giving an undeserved point to 3 men Genesis that IMNO harmed the good name of the best Prog band ever. I would gladly eat broken glass before listening 3 men Genesis Iván
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: October 15 2012 at 01:41
| GENESIS for sure !!! Can't stand the overdone, massed, pompous vocals of Queen - never have, never will. Truly ruins some decent music for me. |