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Topic: Which Tommy?
Posted By: Textbook
Subject: Which Tommy?
Date Posted: November 06 2010 at 17:50
I think I'm going to lose this one big time but I prefer the 75 Tommy. The band had recorded Quadrophenia and Who's Next in the interim and Townshend's bigger budget allows him to go for a very full, rich, fantastical sound he didn't have the tools to make on the original. Plus actually having a cast really enhances the sense of story.
 
I think a lot of people prefer the more "rock 'n' roll" original and it certainly is rawer but Tommy is a big pretentious piece with big ideas and doesn't really suit a garage aesthetic.



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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 06 2010 at 17:53
Original...but some parts of the film i really like. But Garage aesthetic? Come on!

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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: November 06 2010 at 18:07
I think I do prefer the movie over the original.


Posted By: EnderEd
Date Posted: November 06 2010 at 18:29
The only Who piece I like better on the '75 version is "I'm Free"... But T Turner's rendition of 'Acid Queen', E. John's version of 'Pinball Wizard', and even E. Clapton's 'Eyesight' are worth coming back for.


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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 07 2010 at 00:03
On which one did Rick Wakeman guest?   I think somewhere I read he was involved somewhat with this piece of music. I think this is where his relationship with The English Chamber Choir began.


Posted By: zachfive
Date Posted: November 07 2010 at 00:33
Have to go with the movie.

I prefer Ann Margaret singing the Christmas tune, Paul Nicholas does a great job as cousin Kevin, and Elton Johns Pinball Wizard is a far better version. Also, with the movie you get a couple of extra songs and diddies. Like I really enjoy the bass line in the scene in front of the whore house... kinda an intro into the acid queen. Ohh and the nurses do a great job during the It's a Boy Mrs.Walker part. Yeah movie hands down, plus you get to see Ann Margaret roll around in a chocolate bean slurry.


Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: November 07 2010 at 02:17

Voted for 75. I think that rewriting of pretty flat original 1969 album, is the best Townshend' solo work, of course with alot of great artists who played that film music.



Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: November 07 2010 at 05:05
I went for the movie version as its great to hear the variation of vocals and the narrative style with the rock giants of the time.

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 07 2010 at 07:23
I go for the movie version.
 
The original seems like a draft to me.


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 07 2010 at 09:58
I've really never been a fan of the band, but I do remember the Overture being on the radio when I was a kid with my family on the road up to Mammoth Cave.  

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 07 2010 at 10:18
Certainly Daltry gives a better performance on the soundtrack, which highlights the weakness in some of the other singers IMO. I prefer the original.

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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: November 07 2010 at 13:07
The original, every time.

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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: November 07 2010 at 14:18
Yeah, I think Daltrey certainly does a better job on the '75 version.
On a related question, I have never really understood the ending of Tommy. What exactly happens at the end? Yes I've seen the movie and it doesn't really help, he stands on a piece of land looking at the sun in imitation of his father. I suppose it's symbolic of something rather than literal but I still don't really get it.


Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: November 07 2010 at 14:37
Tommy is a bloated, useless work with some isolated mid-range points

Huge step down for the Who, but you could already tell they were headed this way with A Quick One + inevitable influences from Sgt. Peppers.

Horrible.

They recovered quickly enough and released a string of timeless albums.


Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: November 07 2010 at 14:39
oh, and studio version, obviously. The film is awful.

I've never seen a soundtrack release, but I remember enough about the film singing to be disgusted.

Townshend's weaknesses (silly abstractions) and none of his strengths (plaintive introspection) are bared naked in the movie and the album alike.


Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: November 07 2010 at 21:06
Originally posted by RoyFairbank RoyFairbank wrote:

Tommy is a bloated, useless work with some isolated mid-range points

Huge step down for the Who, but you could already tell they were headed this way with A Quick One + inevitable influences from Sgt. Peppers.

Horrible.

They recovered quickly enough and released a string of timeless albums.


Interesting opinion, of which I have the absolute inverse.


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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: November 07 2010 at 21:17

Tommy the movie was a piece of crap, it took all of the magic out of the album as it is a rock opera not musical.



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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: November 07 2010 at 21:29
I should stress I am talking about the SOUNDTRACK not the movie. Sorry if that wasn't clear.


Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 13:03
I still prefer Timmy and the Lords of the Underground...

Just kidding. I must confess to enjoy the '75 version with the various guests.


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 13:06
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

I should stress I am talking about the SOUNDTRACK not the movie. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

It was clear to me.
But it is the soundtrack to the film.


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Posted By: Alberto Muņoz
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 13:06
the 69 version.
 
Still i enjoy the Movie.


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Posted By: rod65
Date Posted: November 10 2010 at 14:27
'69, though the Tommy set on the Isle of Wight concert CD is excellent, and lately I tend to listen to that one more than to the original.


Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: November 10 2010 at 15:07

 
 
 
 
 
Just some tracks from both albums Wink
 
Couldnt be even compare, IMHO LOL



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