Who else HATES Halloween???
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Topic: Who else HATES Halloween???
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Subject: Who else HATES Halloween???
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 16:13
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I just had to get that of my chest
so glad its over!
Halloween is just a big money spinner for the shops
Altho Australians dont generally celebrate Halloween, we had shops with 'super Halloween Sales' and on TV a 'Halloween Sale-oween' (sick!) at our Electrical store....
And stores decorated with cobwebs, bats and witches - its a real crock!
OK thank you for your indulgence, get on with your prog listening....
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 16:20
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pretty forgettable prog band. The metal band Helloween is far better (at least at their debuts). The movie 'Halloween' is a masterpiece of horror movies,
I don't care for anything other that is Halloween-related.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 16:21
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Don't hate it. Just don't care for it much. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 16:26
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I like it for the costume part
for one day in the year I can pretend that i am someone else (it is called acting), and it is all funn to have a nice day with alot of funn costumes around
and it is also a good way to celebrate autumn so I like it, for the sosial life it creates -------------  
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 16:27
Then, you must also hate Valentine's day (or whatever its equivalent is anywhere else in the world, such as ''White Day'' in Japan), as well as the commercialized side of Christmas, right? What makes Halloween so much worse than the other holidays that are advertised out the wazoo?
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AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:Posted By: The T
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 16:35
True. All comments. ------------- 
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 16:36
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Coming from another country, I just find Halloween ridiculous but I guess funny. Actually, OP, christmas and valentine are much more commercialized than Halloween. What's ridiculous is when other countries that have no relation at all with halloween start celebrating it...  -------------
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 16:43
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Oh lighten up. It's one evening. Kids dress up and get candy. The end.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 16:45
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 16:52
I wish we had Trick or Beer. 
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 16:54
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it is infact an old pagan rite which are celebrated in any societe where their is four seasons or where evil spirits are tried to by held on a certain distance.
Halloween is a day for mystiqe and "magic", and acting -------------
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 17:21
| Halloween is hardly commercialized in Canada. The only "Halloween sales" I know of are when stores try to get rid of their candy on November 1 to make room for ..... Christmas stuff. |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 17:28
So is Christmas. Hopefully the background behind these holidays wouldn't be a valid reason to not celebrate them these days, however. I had a friend once who wasn't allowed to trick or treat simply because of the pagan history behind the holiday.
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 17:53
I agree. Kids get candy. Kids get to pretend they're their favorite thing in the world. Parents get to spend a night walking around with their kids and watching movies with them. I don't understand what you could possibly hate about that. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 18:02
Halloween was my favorite holiday. What pisses me off is that the last time I went out it was raining.  Then my neighborhood took all the fun out it by having Trunk or Treat up at the church.  ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 18:10
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Yeah, candy and chicks everywhere dressed like prostitutes. What's to like? *whatever emoticon denotes sarcasm*
I do hate the new Halloween map on Team Fortress though. -------------  Time always wins. |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 18:14
Unrelated, but your signature link is a bit ironic, since P&T bowed to the will of the Vatican and omitted the Vatican episode from existence. You can't even find it in the box set or on the site itself.
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 18:15
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I enjoy it. Reminds me of being a kid in the 70s. And watching Charlie Brown and the Great Pumpkin with my brother. |
Posted By: crimson87
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 18:16
| I dont hate Halloween per se , I just cant stand some celebrations that feel so imposed on us by the media like St Patricks day or this one. |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 18:16
That special is far superior to the Christmas one. It actually teaches kids something I can respect.
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Posted By: crimson87
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 18:21
| I dont hate halloween , I just dislike the fact that there are a lot of posers in my country who celebrate this holidays just becouse they saw them on tv and come from abroad , Halloween , St Patricks day... whats next ... thanksgiving??? |
Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 18:23
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Halloween is more or less a new thing over here, and you will notice it only by balloons with spiderweb and witches drawings on it. It's interesting, you can find these only in Irish pubs - I guess they're the only Anglo-Saxon oriented bars here. Youngsters who are into goth/dark thing may add some extra make-up or dress up in more 'vampire' style. That's about it. ------------- |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 18:29
What's wrong with the Xmas one? It has an anti-commercialism message. You probably don't like the Jesus speech. Fair enough. I actually find it refreshing even if I'm not the most religious guy. Just waiting for the PC police to dub over the baby Jesus speech with "people of all faith traditions" to make it diversity acceptable. Charles Schultz would be spinning |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 18:36
I could care less about political-correctness. Christmas has more to do with paganism than religion, and telling kids the birth of baby Jesus is ''what Christmath ith all about, Charlie Brown'' irritates me, that's all. The Great Pumpkin teaches kids to not believe in something blindly, which is a far more moral message, as far as I'm concerned.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 18:40
Hate Halloween? Yeah? Well why don't you go bob for apples and don't come up. 
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 18:42
Whatever floats your boat Micah . Are you saying you *don't* believe in the Great Pumpkin? C'mon man!! He's coming...next year....for sure!  |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 19:04
I assume you're a believer, then. At least you can take my frankness lightheartedly.
Well, as long as I don't have to sit with you in a pumpkin patch all night long, I think I can humor ya.
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 19:14
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Halloween is my favorite holiday, so I guess I hate you for hating it!
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 19:18
So paganism isn't religion?  Anyway, I get tickled at the whole "But Christmas was taken from paganism!" I've explained why this doesn't invalidate the Christian meaning associated with Christmas before here, but no one cared. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 19:28
My bad. I should have said 'Christianity', but then the wording would have been confusing, I assumed. I never said it invalidated the Christian meaning, but the fact that the famous face of Christmas involves much more of the rituals and customs associated with the pagan religion, I find it ironic how that never seems to ever be acknowledged. I know Charlie Brown is for kids, so the whole pagan thing would seem odd and inappropriate, but I still personally disagree with the spoon-fed message. Even when I was a Christian, I was against it. Plus, The Great Pumpkin is better-written and funnier.
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 19:33
I don't think it's ironic. I think it's smart business. When the Romans brought Christianity to Britain, they figured they could get it catch on easier if they let the locals hold onto some of their rituals and symbolism, but imbue them with the message of Christianity. The fact that it's a pine tree and when there are no pine trees in Jerusalem wasn't important, it's the message that was important. Makes total sense to me. -------------
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 19:37
It's even more elementary than that. Here in the 21st century, we debate and have to attack a person's entire worldview. Early Christians didn't do this. Paul didn't tell the Athenians they were wrong for being polytheists, he found an altar "To an unknown god" and he told them, "Let me tell you about this God you missed." That's why I say Christianity is not a culture. Christianity can grow in almost any culture with some tweaking. Christmas and Easter reflects this.  ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 19:45
As I've always said, and still say, I don't know what I believe in regards to the prime mover. "I don't know" has always seemed the only honest answer to me in terms of the big G. All faith traditions, and non-belief as well, are pure speculation as I see it. But I see nothing harmful about the message of Charlie Brown xmas. Whether I believe it or not doesn't matter to me---its a heartwarming message, positive, and delivered with Schultz's dry humor. And sometimes I'd really like to believe it. Maybe someday. |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 19:46
So, as long as they could indoctrinate people into their way of thinking, any necessary tweaks to make the takeover a bit easier to swallow was acceptable. Okay, I can see that. But why is it that modern Christians often don't acknowledge that such an event ever took place? Hell, plenty of Christians I know aren't even aware that December 25 wasn't Jesus' actual birthday, or that Bethlehem may not have even been the right location. I just think when a single holiday has so many different meanings to different people, and has multiple origins, acting as if the ''true meaning'' behind it all is one specific thing seems a bit historically dishonest. Perhaps I'm reading way too much into it, and shouldn't care less. But regardless, A Charlie Brown Christmas < It's The Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 19:51
It isn't dishonest. It's ignorance. That's all. Speaking of which, Jesus wasn't said to be born in Jerusalem.* *Unless you are Mormon. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 20:00
^ The error is fixed. Honest oversight. 
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 20:14
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Halloween is alright. I don't hate it, but it's not something I love.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, I would take my children trick-or-treating and be happy with it  ------------- 
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 20:16
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Doesn't it get tiring hating things other people take pleasure from?
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 20:18
Depends. Would you ever tire of detesting child pornography? Plenty of folks seem to take pleasure from that.
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 20:23
Oh come on, have the children's costumes really gotten that slutty? ;-)
I find Halloween kind of annoying, really, but it's interesting that the dress like a hooker aspect has gotten so popular. I was in NYC for Halloween last year and I was astounded by what girls we walking around in at all, much less at night in October. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 20:23
I gather from this that some people come home from a long day of work, put their feet up and settle in with a nice cup of coffee for some good ol' child-pornography-detestin'. My reply: Get a different hobby, damn. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 20:25
Forgive me, but I never got the impression that anybody here has made a routine of hating on popular customs. Some folks just genuinely hate holidays.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 20:28
That's something I just don't get. bad childhood experiences? I don't know what else would explain the bitterness, and crotchety old man attitude we see in threads every year around here. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 20:31
I don't know, maybe. I like the Christmas season, for instance, but I don't particularly celebrate the holiday. I'm indifferent, I guess. To me, if I'm not directly involved, I have no reason to 'hate' this type of stuff. It's just a holiday. But plenty of folks truly hate this stuff, and that's just how they are.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 20:38
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Well, there is a difference between hating on a holiday and actually hating it.
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 20:43
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Halloween was terrible for me as a child. Diabetes ran in our family and mom didn't want us having all that sugar. So when we got home from trick or treating we were only allowed to eat the razor blades.
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 01 2010 at 20:45
*rimshot*
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 04:58
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 05:51
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Booo!!!
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 08:41
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Kids are definitely celebrating evil in its purest form when they dress up like spiderman to get a snickers bar.
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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 09:18
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All these left hand path aspects come to mind. This year I just ignored Halloween. I used to have Devil worshippers around me and today I find it even more revolting. In 1972, Aquino and Sinclair opposed Anton LeVay's leadership and formed the "Temple Of Set". Their practices were different. Judeo Christian concepts and the worship of demons invaded my hometown. There was no "Satanic Panic" to make fun of. Kids were not interested in applying the basis of a horror film to their agenda, There was no such thing as "Heavy Metal" music. It was a kind of different brainwashing concept....maybe more like the "Dark Shadows" series. Many of my childhood friends were driven off to the vegetable farm never to return to reality or murdered in rituals. I still feel sadness over that experience and so I ignore Halloween.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 12:15
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Are you kidding!! Halloween is awesome......best night around! Christmas is overated and the definition of commercialism gone MAD!!
Thanksgiving in the US has turned into the "day before black Friday"....what a joke!
Halloween has haunted houses, hayrides, corn mazes.....candy dude!!!! Chocolate!!!!
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 12:18
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I don't understand the complaints of any holiday as too commercial. The holiday is only as commercialized as you and those you share the holiday with make it. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 12:26
If you honestly believe any of that stuff is real, then it's no wonder you take such offense at Halloween. Every day must be like a Harry Potter film through your eyes. EDIT: And the eve was indeed holy to those who belonged to the pagan religion celebrating it. ''Holy'' doesn't equal ''Christian''.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 12:30
Wiccans would not celebrate all-hallows-eve because they are not christian, they celebrate Samhain (pronounce sho-wain) which is the Gaelic harvest festival and is buggerall to do with witches and "dark arts"- the only "dark" bit about it is that it marks the beginning of winter. ------------- What? |