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Topic: The Who heavy hitters
Posted By: Finnforest
Subject: The Who heavy hitters
Date Posted: October 13 2010 at 19:50
If you can, add a sentence of two about why you think one is better than the other.  



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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: October 13 2010 at 21:24
Can't vote, my 2 favorite Who albums. 

Who's next is one of the greatest albums ever. There really is no remotely weak track, they still sound fresh decades later.
Quadrophenia has some of the most diverse material and was a huge risk after the success of Tommy. It also has some amazing tracks that still sound great now.


Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: October 13 2010 at 22:12
I know what you mean Yanch, I can't vote either.....yet.....I've been comparing and contrasting the two this week.....great listening.  Smile

Amazing how well this material holds up, sounds fresher than lots of new stuff does. 


Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: October 13 2010 at 22:37
Ahhhh, the music of my youth.  Quad really spoke to me when I was Jimmy's age.....especially the father-son relationship and Jimmy's problems with women, family, self-identity, and drink & drugs. 
 
Who's Next is a lighter, more freewheeling romp.....chock full of teenage anthems and great tunes.  Goin' Mobile and Love Ain't For Keeping are my two favorites....it was those little songs in between the bonafide classics that really made the album.  Not a duff cut within a mile of that one.
 
As to choosing a fave 'tween the two.....really can't.  Like saying which do you like more, the left chamber of your heart or the right.


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Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: October 13 2010 at 22:53
Quadrophenia is my second favorite album of all time-it's emotional without being whiny and every single component of the band, from Daltry's singing to Moon's drumming to Entwistles intricate basslines and Pete Townshend's songwriting, guitar work and compositional skills, was at the best it had ever been and ever would be. Who's Next is a great album, but Quadrophenia is a masterpiece in every sense of the word. 

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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: October 13 2010 at 22:55
Tommy?


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: October 14 2010 at 04:03
I like both, Quadrophenia would probably win because it's longer, but I like Tommy much more than either one. 


Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: October 14 2010 at 13:22
I agree, they are their best 2 but Who's Next has the edge for me for sheer consistency. Quadrophenia just loses steam a couple of times despite being overall excellent.


Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: October 17 2010 at 03:48
Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

I agree, they are their best 2 but Who's Next has the edge for me for sheer consistency. Quadrophenia just loses steam a couple of times despite being overall excellent.
 I have been reading an article that the edge you mentioned above was made by producer Chris Stamp who said whats enough is enough and  WN was issued instead of Lifehouse project which should be another conceptual, a double album with a storyline .
BTW,my fav track from WN is Bargain. All great triggers tracks on that album, no question,  but I dont like a production so much - that original LP sounds abit strange to me.
 
I voted for Quadrophenia as their best studio album . My fav The Who albums are Quadrophenia, The Who By Numbers and Who Are You. Never have been a fan of 60s The Who although I LOVE I Can See For Miles, which is THE best The Who song of 60s IMHO.  
 


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: October 18 2010 at 20:28
Hi,
 
Looking back at it all ... neither. The album that really made The Who the best ... is always "Who Are You" ...
 
That is not to say that "Tommy" was not major, and it was the album and the work that made them really big. Quadrophenia is excellent. but it did not stand up at the time in concert as the rest of their stuff and songs did.
 
The early 60's was a different band, and I don't think they were as important or as meaningful as they became.


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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: October 20 2010 at 09:15
I liked Who Sell Out because it had pre-Tommy elements in the making. It was a strange album derived from their early period or actually their transition into a different one. I was a huge Kinks fan and I found the early material to be reminiscent of Ray Davies. I enjoyed Who's Next and disliked Quadrophenia. Roger Daltrey developed a more overbearing scream on Quadrophenia. It was evident on Who's Next but was more tolerable for me in those sessions. I love his blusey rock screaming on "Live At Leeds" but on Quadrophenia he was doing something else with it and I just couldn't relate to it. Quadrophenia did not have the softness that Tommy had. Quadrophenia was more in the listeners face where Tommy had a dark progressive element within. Especially with "The Amazing Journey" and "Underture" where Keith Moon sounds like a young Carl Palmer, the guitars are going backwards, the overall performance on acoustic guitar, the excellent harmony vocals, the dark melodies and much more that Quadrophenia had no representation of. Just my personal deal totally. Quad was great in it's own right! I was spoiled by Tommy.


Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: October 20 2010 at 09:16
Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

I agree, they are their best 2 but Who's Next has the edge for me for sheer consistency. Quadrophenia just loses steam a couple of times despite being overall excellent.


Precisely.


Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: October 20 2010 at 09:48
Quadrophenia is in the top 10 albums ever. It is flawless. Anyone who criticizes it should plug their ears, cover their eyes and fill their mouth with caulk. 

Who's Next is just behind....


Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 20 2010 at 09:59
My favorite is their compilations Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy and Who's Better Who's Best.  That being said I am a long-time fan of Tommy.  I didn't get Quadrophenia until many, many years later and I haven't really gotten my head around that one yet.  Who's Next has a lot of great tunes on it that show up on the above mentioned compilations, so that is where my vote goes.

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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: October 20 2010 at 11:41
I like the economy of the shorter single album better (Who's Next) over Quadrophenia plus the former has three 24 carat Who classics on it in Baba O'Riley , Behind Blue Eyes and Won't Get Fooled Again. (the ultimate condemnation of the failure of the hippy counter culture in my book - meet the new boss, same as the old boss)

Pete Townshend's concept albums and /or Rock Operas smack of overreaching ambition(although we should all be thankful he pushed open some doors in this field clearly) I've always felt his efforts in larger scale rock formats were foiled by the limitations of his collaborators.


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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: October 20 2010 at 12:05
A really difficult poll. Who's Next is a recognised classic, one of those albums which changed the face of rock.

Quadrophenia
, on the other hand, tells a great story and is one hell of a barnstormer from start to finish. it also features my favourite town, brightonBig smile

Quadrophenia, if only for I'm One, the greatest angst song ever written.


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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: October 20 2010 at 12:15
I'm leaning Quadrophenia, followed  Who's Next, Sell Out, and Tommy. 
 
Of course, these things can changeLOL


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 20 2010 at 12:50
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

A really difficult poll. Who's Next is a recognised classic, one of those albums which changed the face of rock.

Quadrophenia
, on the other hand, tells a great story and is one hell of a barnstormer from start to finish. it also features my favourite town, brightonBig smile

Quadrophenia, if only for I'm One, the greatest angst song ever written.
 
Difficult poll......I love The Who!!! I picked Quadrophenia for these reasons. Plus it flows so well from start to finish as well as being a beast of an album.
 
Laz your spot on with Whos' Next too.....man...can I change my vote???
Big smile


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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: October 21 2010 at 11:29
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

I like the economy of the shorter single album better (Who's Next) over Quadrophenia plus the former has three 24 carat Who classics on it in Baba O'Riley , Behind Blue Eyes and Won't Get Fooled Again. (the ultimate condemnation of the failure of the hippy counter culture in my book - meet the new boss, same as the old boss)

Pete Townshend's concept albums and /or Rock Operas smack of overreaching ambition(although we should all be thankful he pushed open some doors in this field clearly) I've always felt his efforts in larger scale rock formats were foiled by the limitations of his collaborators.
I disagree that Townshend" large scale" efforts suffered by "limitations of his collaborators", if you have in mind others from the band! JAE was  one of the greatest bass player in rock music, the best example of " musicians musician", a songwritter who did some GREAT songs, also he pushed Townshend to that "large scale" because JAE recognized Townshend as "rock operas" songwriter before Kit Lambert.. Roger wasnt opera like singer as Mercury aswell but Roger did do a great vocals in VERY demanding Townshend songs. Moonie---what to saySmile. I love Townshend solo albums alot, very introspective and this and that, alot of great tunes, but I dont think that hes SOLO catalogue could be compared with that stuff he made with The Who. IMHO, The Who were the most succesfuly a "supergroup" of that golden age 70s in UK. 
 
PS Also, i think that The Punk And Godfather is MILES ABOVE better track than Behind Blue Eyes...ok, this is my personal opinion only.
 
PSS ...or this AMAZING jamming from "underrated" Side 3 Wink


Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: October 21 2010 at 15:13
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

I like the economy of the shorter single album better (Who's Next) over Quadrophenia plus the former has three 24 carat Who classics on it in Baba O'Riley , Behind Blue Eyes and Won't Get Fooled Again. (the ultimate condemnation of the failure of the hippy counter culture in my book - meet the new boss, same as the old boss)

Pete Townshend's concept albums and /or Rock Operas smack of overreaching ambition(although we should all be thankful he pushed open some doors in this field clearly) I've always felt his efforts in larger scale rock formats were foiled by the limitations of his collaborators.
I disagree that Townshend" large scale" efforts suffered by "limitations of his collaborators", if you have in mind others from the band! JAE was  one of the greatest bass player in rock music, the best example of " musicians musician", a songwritter who did some GREAT songs, also he pushed Townshend to that "large scale" because JAE recognized Townshend as "rock operas" songwriter before Kit Lambert.. Roger wasnt opera like singer as Mercury aswell but Roger did do a great vocals in VERY demanding Townshend songs. Moonie---what to saySmile. I love Townshend solo albums alot, very introspective and this and that, alot of great tunes, but I dont think that hes SOLO catalogue could be compared with that stuff he made with The Who. IMHO, The Who were the most succesfuly a "supergroup" of that golden age 70s in UK. 
 
PS Also, i think that The Punk And Godfather is MILES ABOVE better track than Behind Blue Eyes...ok, this is my personal opinion only.
 
PSS ...or this AMAZING jamming from "underrated" Side 3 Wink


I agree that Entwistle was a very talented bass player and that his unique sound was crucial to the Who's identity. However, apart from the occasional brass parts he contributed here and there his entire repertoire consisted of just 'rock bass' The songs he wrote for the Who (even the good ones likes Success Story, My Wife and Boris the Spider) were tantamount to enjoyable gimmicky humour. I've always considered Moon a very sloppy drummer whose personality dwarfed his playing. Daltrey is an extremely accomplished singer but is often clearly uncomfortable on lyrics that were often deeply personal for Townshend (to the extent that I suspect Roger didn't understand them) It's not insignificant that the solo material from John, Roger and Keith is uniformly wretched.

BTW I really like the Who but have always felt Townshend would have been fully fledged 'prog' but for the limitations of his three colleagues. (and I think legions of Who fans would thank Roger, John and Keith for that) Similarly, I think we have Chris Frantz and Tina Weymouth to thank that the Talking Heads were as enjoyable as they were before Byrne's ego cast the bass and drums couple to the periphery (from where I completely lost interest in the band's output)


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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: October 21 2010 at 15:59
Quadrophenia for me, Who's magnum opus: the musicianship is as good as in Who's Next, but the rock-opera story-line with instrumentals and all makes it by far Who's most accomplished effort alongside Tommy in my opinion. Entwistle's bass is to die for, Roger's vocals can be extremely powerful to heart-ripping, Keith as always a blast and Pete does a very fine job on the guitars.


Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: October 21 2010 at 16:05
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Quadrophenia for me, Who's magnum opus: the musicianship is as good as in Who's Next, but the rock-opera story-line with instrumentals and all makes it by far Who's most accomplished effort alongside Tommy in my opinion. Entwistle's bass is to die for, Roger's vocals can be extremely powerful to heart-ripping, Keith as always a blast and Pete does a very fine job on the guitars.


Well said Pablo.  The repeating motifs and the room they allowed themselves really give the album a special feel that WN lacks.  Plus this album doesn't have "My Wife" on it.  LOL


Posted By: Jazzywoman
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 14:05
Musically, Who's Next turely does it for me, while Quad lacks that, its lyrics are awesomeness.  BUT...i prefer the songs overall in Who's Next, so thats my vote :D

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Posted By: rod65
Date Posted: October 29 2010 at 13:53
QUAD is my favorite album of all time. I could mention the complexity of composition or the phenomenal vocals, but for me, among many other factors already elaborated upon above, I believe that this is the album on which both Keith and John peaked, and for both drumming and bass--alone and together--I would stack this album up against any other in the genre.


Posted By: Tychovski
Date Posted: November 27 2010 at 17:14
Quadrophenia has one more disc to love.

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 27 2010 at 17:27
Was never fully sold on Who's Next. Some great tracks on there though.

Quadrophenia however is awesome.


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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: June 05 2012 at 12:17
Just bought these albums recently and felt in love with the band! I'm completely sold!

BTW, voted for Quadrophenia.


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Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: June 05 2012 at 13:34
Quadrophenia. More Prog than Who's Next. Both masterpieces in my book though.

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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: June 05 2012 at 15:34


Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: June 05 2012 at 16:58
"Who's Next." Nearly every song is a rock epic. Even the album cover is an epic middle-finger.

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