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Topic: Why?Posted By: Rabid
Subject: Why?
Date Posted: July 24 2010 at 22:00
When they have a fight in Kung-fu films, one guy takes on 50 opponents and they all take it in turns to fight him one at a time, and invariably get whupped.
Why don't all 50 just pile onto the guy, at the same time, and kick the crap out of him?
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Replies: Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: July 24 2010 at 22:08
Rabid wrote:
When they have a fight in Kung-fu films, one guy takes on 50 opponents and they all take it in turns to fight him one at a time, and invariably get whupped.
Why don't all 50 just pile onto the guy, at the same time, and kick the crap out of him?
It is a matter of honor for Eastern warriors to take on an opponent one on one, thus ensuring a fair fight using honorable, culturally-approved combat tactics. Such an approach would guarantee that a fighter did not bring shame upon his house, his village, or his dynasty. Ganging up on one man would surely create collectivist scorn and permanently damage the reputation of all the "victors," no matter how imperative such a victory was. For the ancient Orientals, shame was to be avoided at all cost, even if it meant death and defeat.
Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: July 24 2010 at 22:21
The Truth wrote:
Guns take the fun out of everything. Unless you're Jack Bauer.
You never thought to make your own religion man. With those kinds of answers, I would be your follower until death, if Jack Bauer shoots me... It will be an honor...
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Change the program inside... Stay in silence is a crime.
Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: July 24 2010 at 22:21
Where's the honor in getting whupped?
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh.....you mean bushido?
I'd prefer the gun approach LOL
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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: July 24 2010 at 22:22
My favourite is in a cartoon chase at the fairground, where the escapee gets into a roller coaster car. How you're going to elude someone in one of these is a mystery, but THEN the pursuer gets into the next car! What exactly is going on here? Why not just wait for them at the entrance? And then the rear car somehow gains on the car in front.
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 24 2010 at 22:28
all good points, suffice to say you'll never see real fighting in a film, I'd add; why are the multiple bad guys always poor fighters? Even the more realistic scenes in, say, a Steven Seagal movie have the same problem. Obviously a fight scene in a film must always be choreographed so everyone knows what's going to happen and no major injuries occur, but real hand-to-hand is usually a clumsy, ugly, explosive event involving little skill and more instinct & aggression. True martial artists know this, which is why they'll usually either avoid a fight or try to end it quickly with a simple punch or take-down (if they're lucky that is, and have the skill, like a mixed martial artist).
Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: July 24 2010 at 22:45
I think Steven Segal looks like a stockbroker, or maybe a merchant banker.
But in the absence of a gun, I'd challenge them to a game of Trivial Pursuit.
Another thing with Kung-fu films that are dubbed : You see the good guy talking for 10 mins, then the on-screen dialogue says :
"So you want to fight?............Fight me !!"
wtf?????
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 24 2010 at 22:47
that's the charm of a chopsocky flick
Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: August 08 2010 at 23:13
Rabid wrote:
When they have a fight in Kung-fu films, one guy takes on 50 opponents and they all take it in turns to fight him one at a time, and invariably get whupped.
Why don't all 50 just pile onto the guy, at the same time, and kick the crap out of him?
because otherwise the movie will be too short
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: August 08 2010 at 23:17
I once spent a summer teaching Fencing to young kids. For fun I would challenge five of them at once and would invariably whip them soundly. Why? Because they all attacked me one at a time rather than ganging up on me all at once, Conclusion? Kung-Fu fighters are children.
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Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: August 09 2010 at 11:41
Not a kung-fu movie, but this is about as close as I've ever seen a movie get to what you're wishing for: