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Topic: If he had stopped

Posted By: Icarium
Subject: If he had stopped
Date Posted: June 13 2010 at 17:03

If Elton John had stopped making albums after Blue Mooves would he be included to Crossover Prog, to me he is as Art Rock Related as much of the bands on Crossover prog scene on theise archives, intricate instrumentation, symphonic structure an overall prog rock sound to he's records between Empty Sky and Blue Mooves.

when I play bass to most of the Elton tracks it hits me every time how complex hes songs is ant textured, and he had also one of my favourite bass palyer Dee Murray (one of the best bass players to have ever lived), I will say all hes albums between 69 and 76 (8 or 9 albums) are Art Rock/Symphonic prog rock but after that it went downill and produced some 10 or 11 soul, funk, rock&roll, pop, sympnonic pop albums.

what do you think

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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: June 13 2010 at 17:10

aginor wrote:

Dee Murray (one of the best bass players to have ever lived),

You haven't heard many bass players

Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 13 2010 at 17:15

yes I have (Chris Squire, John Wetton, Tony Levin, Marcus Miller, Ray Shulman, Greg Lake, MIke Rutherford and so on) an Dee was on their level when it comes to bass playing, he's fast, unpredictable melodic and have a sick pharesing just sheck he's bass work on the hit song Daniel (sick bass line)

Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: June 13 2010 at 17:26

Elton John's first couple records were staples on progressive FM radio in the states in the early 70s. Same thing for Bowie's Space Oddity and Man Who Sold the World. Those two artists put new life into the genre at a time when the early prog-rock experiments were starting to fade.
After they became big pop-stars it was hard to imagine that John and Bowie were once the shining new stars of the fledgling prog-rock genre on US FM underground radio.
I don't know if John belongs on PA though, I have no opinion on that one.

Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: June 13 2010 at 17:30

Being that I own all the albums up to Blue Moves (and assorted after) I would have to say that while they are all fantastic, top notch pop with a hint of progressive sensibility the man was never a fully "prog" artist.