Cocept albums.
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Topic: Cocept albums.
Posted By: Nakatira
Subject: Cocept albums.
Date Posted: April 17 2010 at 11:55
What is preferable?
say if an album is just on long song (piece) Is it preferable to have only 1 track on the record, or divide it into tracks but still have the tracks "cross over" to eachother?
I would think In today's moderen age people would like the option to be able to skip around at theire own desire.
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Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: April 17 2010 at 22:05
If they're continuing into eachother anyway I couldn't care less. Except one track won't give me the gaps in between songs
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 17 2010 at 22:10
hmm. I have Triumvirat's "Mister Ten Percent" both as 1 track and split up into parts, and I always seem to choose to listen to the single track. I guess that way I won't be tempted to skip around and ruin my listening experience
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 17 2010 at 22:12
isn't there a special edition of Passion Play that divides the parts so you can choose, but still plays the album as recorded when listened to wholly?
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 17 2010 at 22:52
It's preferable the way the author decided to release it.
If it's a 75 minutes track or 20 related 2 minutes tracks, I don't care, as long as the artist released the way he considered it should be listened and sounds great.
Iván
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Posted By: Nakatira
Date Posted: April 18 2010 at 20:54
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
It's preferable the way the author decided to release it.
If it's a 75 minutes track or 20 related 2 minutes tracks, I don't care, as long as the artist released the way he considered it should be listened and sounds great.
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Some valid points there
I'm just thinking, that quite many listeners would see the 1 track and think ah f##k it, might be good ridance though Not that prog is the most radio friendly music, but the few stations that play prog would probbably not be inclined.
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Posted By: Nakatira
Date Posted: April 18 2010 at 20:55
Atavachron wrote:
isn't there a special edition of Passion Play that divides the parts so you can choose, but still plays the album as recorded when listened to wholly?
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I never saw that, I could skip, the hair who lost its specatacles at times though
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Posted By: Repner
Date Posted: April 26 2010 at 17:12
I'm okay with dividing parts of songs, but sometimes I wish they wouldn't give each part a different title. Some people might be mislead into thinking it's an album of seperate songs, and choose not to listen to it in order.
If I were to do it personally, I'd probably do something like Fates Warning did with A Pleasant Shade Of Gray, and just have them titled Part 1 to 12. That way, to people who are unaware of the nature of the album, it's more obvious that it should be listened to as a continuous piece
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: April 27 2010 at 03:04
I have heard rumours of such a device; were I to find it, I would put "The Hare" section on repeat.
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Posted By: Nakatira
Date Posted: April 27 2010 at 12:25
Repner wrote:
I'm okay with dividing parts of songs, but sometimes I wish they wouldn't give each part a different title. Some people might be mislead into thinking it's an album of seperate songs, and choose not to listen to it in order.
If I were to do it personally, I'd probably do something like Fates Warning did with A Pleasant Shade Of Gray, and just have them titled Part 1 to 12. That way, to people who are unaware of the nature of the album, it's more obvious that it should be listened to as a continuous piece
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I was thinking of doing it like this.
Album title
and then call the "tracks" example: part I (the awakening) part II (the battle) and so on, hoping thisa would let the listener know that the record should be listened to as one.
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Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: April 27 2010 at 13:45
I prefer many tracks BECUZ IT HELPS ME UP MAH LAST FMZZZ
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Posted By: RoeDent
Date Posted: April 27 2010 at 14:17
I prefer the split-tracks method because it gives you the option of listening to the piece as a whole or going to a particular section if you don't fancy listening to a 45-minute song. As Mike Portnoy said once, the novelty of seeing the CD timer reach 42:00 will probably wear out quickly.
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: April 27 2010 at 14:24
Conor Fynes wrote:
I prefer many tracks BECUZ IT HELPS ME UP MAH LAST FMZZZ |
The sad thing is that this is in fact a thing that I think of when I listen to 20 minute songs. Thank you internet for making me shallow. :(
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Posted By: Repner
Date Posted: April 27 2010 at 15:05
Nakatira wrote:
Repner wrote:
I'm okay with dividing parts of songs, but sometimes I wish they wouldn't give each part a different title. Some people might be mislead into thinking it's an album of seperate songs, and choose not to listen to it in order.
If I were to do it personally, I'd probably do something like Fates Warning did with A Pleasant Shade Of Gray, and just have them titled Part 1 to 12. That way, to people who are unaware of the nature of the album, it's more obvious that it should be listened to as a continuous piece
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I was thinking of doing it like this.
Album title
and then call the "tracks" example: part I (the awakening) part II (the battle) and so on, hoping thisa would let the listener know that the record should be listened to as one.
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Yeah, that idea is good as well, if the titles begin with "Part #", then a subtitle, (if desired)
I've seen some people refer to the tracks on Transatlantics The Whirlwind, or Edge Of Sanity's Crimson II as "songs" rather than "parts" or "sections". Crimson II makes it even mopre misleading, because the seperate "chapters" are themselves split up into seperate tracks
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Posted By: Nakatira
Date Posted: April 27 2010 at 21:52
Thanks for the input guys.
I'm guessing I'll got for multiple tracks, but not many 
Would need at least two anyways, to get it on an LP
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: April 27 2010 at 23:34
Nakatira wrote:
is it preferable to have only 1 track on the record, or divide it into tracks but still have the tracks "cross over" to eachother? |
Some examples of this are Porcupine Tree's most recent album, The Incident, in which the title track is a 55 minute epic made up of suites, which are seperated into sections (for convenience) but optimized for gapless playback, to allow it to be easily listened to either way.
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