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Topic: Rap/Hip-Hop Appreciation Thread
Posted By: Textbook
Subject: Rap/Hip-Hop Appreciation Thread
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 05:14
I had my rap/prog link-up thread before but this is intended to be just a rap thread, hopefully an ongoing discussion/opinions thing that might draw some rap listeners out of the shadows because I know prog fans aren't "supposed" to listen to rap ;)

Was just listening to 2000 Fold, the Styles Of Beyond record from 1999, really good stuff. It's one those albums that is excellent without actively being excellent, if you know what I mean. There's little in the way of stuff that's astonishing/jaw-dropping, it's just super consistent and accomplished, just good lyrics and strong beats all the way through, solid, meat and potatoes hip-hop that is intelligent without trying to be and gets you head nodding without selling out. Shame about that Fort Minor thing they did later but ah well.
 
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 05:55
Eminem (earlier stuff)
Dr Dre
Public Enemy
NWA
Beastie Boys (old school stuff)
Immortal Technique
Run DMC
1200 Techniques
Hilltop Hoods


That's probably my list of favorites off the top of my head.
I'm not really a prog fan per se, so hip hop isn't out of bounds for me.



Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 07:34
The Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Disposable_Heroes_of_Hiphoprisy - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Disposable_Heroes_of_Hiphoprisy

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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 07:37
The prog of rap (and my favorite album from the genre):

http://universoulproductions.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/wyclef_jean_carnival.jpg


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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 12:07
Public Enemy
Eric B. & Rakim
3rd Bass


Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 13:43
Madvillain (see avatar)
Raekwon (and Wu Tang in general)\
Eminem (early stuff)
Kanye West
dr. dre
Atmosphere
dalek (prog?)
dead Prez
J dilla (not exactly rap but. . .)
GZA
Jay Z
deltron 3030
Aesop Rock
Jedi Mind Tricks
Tribe Called Quest
Why?
Beastie Boys
Biggie Smalls
Tupac (some)






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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 14:03
Chamillionaire, Dalek, and J Dilla. That's a good start.

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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 14:30
If there's one genre I just can't listen to, it's rap. Sorry broDisapprove

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Posted By: Bucsdude
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 14:51
I agree with u on that one rap his hard to listen to. Would u count Usher as Rap thoughConfused

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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 16:07
Go to Watts and tell people that your favorite rapper is Usher. Say goodbye to your family first.
 
I think some of you would like The Greatest Pacman Victory In History by Aesop Rock. It's about his experience with LSD and on the second verse, every three words begin with L S & D. Prog fans should be right at home with this theme.
 
Dean: I have never actually listened to The Disposable Heroes Of Hiphoprisy and that's something of a criminal oversight. You've reminded me to do something about that.


Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 17:43
OutKast deserves some credit. Stankonia and Speakerboxxx/The Love Below are two of the best rap albums I've ever heard.
 
My favorites also include:
Madvillain
Common
Kanye West
Aesop Rock
Beastie Boys
A Tribe Called Quest
 
Then we also have to look at the greats of instrumental hip-hop:
DJ Shadow
Prefuse 73
J Dilla


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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 21:21

Anyone check out the new album from Soulillaquists Of Sound, No More Heroes? I quite liked it. Commercial and fun but no sell-out, no degrading content.

Other good recent releases that I don't think are getting much attention are Stereotype by Blitz The Ambassador and Radio Do Canibal by BK One.
 
I hear a lot of people talking about The Salvation by Skyzoo but I haven't bothered to listen, looks like the same ol', same ol' to me. But I could be wrong- anyone heard it?


Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 21:48
Not sure if this counts as 'rap/hip-hop' but I love this critter to bits. I think they're from Hungary and one of the great things about this album is how they blend in eastern european folk music and Bartok elements to the beats without it sounding remotely contrived. Well worth checking out.




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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 22:10
Public Enemy
Eric B & Rakim
De La Soul
EPMD
NWA
Tres Deliquentas
Ice T
Digital Underground
Ludicrus

In the late 80s I listened to hip-hop non-stop, love James Brown based loops, music doesn't get any better than that.


Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 22:38
Unfortunately, Rap/Hip-Hop is one of the two genres (that I've heard of) which I haven't yet been able to enjoy listening to.  The other is Country.


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Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 23:22
Used to love rap/hip-hop, never listen to it anymore these days though. I do, however, enjoy Brotha Lynch and Bone Thugs N' Harmony though. I just never actively listen to it.

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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: October 17 2009 at 00:10
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Unfortunately, Rap/Hip-Hop is one of the two genres (that I've heard of) which I haven't yet been able to enjoy listening to.  The other is Country.

I just can't get passed the fact that I don't like any of the music I hear from rap/hip-hop. I know that I have only heard the commercial side, but musically it doesn't interest me.


Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: October 17 2009 at 01:05
Oh for christ sake to the people coming in here telling us hip hip sucks/you don't like it,, this is a hip hop appreciation thread, not a "I NEED TO COME INTO THIS THREAD TO MAKE EVERYONE AWARE  I DO NOT LIKE HIP HOP" thread.
I think Marillion is a sh*tty band, but I don't go into the Marillion appreciation threads and bash the band, geezus.
We like hip hop, you don't but we don't need to hear about it.


Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: October 17 2009 at 01:09
Sad but true, a lot of people on this site still don't know what an appreciation thread is all about.

I can not think of one time I've visited an appreciation thread for a band I didn't like and posted that I didn't like said band or genre, that really wouldn't make any sense.


Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: October 17 2009 at 01:55
Yeah I know, I wasn't going to respond and cement the bad vibes but now the subject's been broached anyway it does tick me off that people feel compelled to come in here and go "Hey, this sucks." Go start a rap depreciation thread. I'm used to rap being dumped on by rock fans who generally haven't listened to it anyway though so no biggie.
BTW: I had this conceited idea that I knew more about hip-hop than most people here but there's already things being thrown up I don't know (Tres Deliquentas, 1200 Techniques) which is great, fresh leads :) Keep it coming.
 
Did anyone else get More Heart Than Brains by Bike For Three? Buck 65 is not a great MC but Greetings From Tuskan's production and the whole sort of sad, heart-broken, twilight atmosphere of the album makes for something strangely beautiful and compelling, really stuck with me since I got it.
Anyone heard the new People Under The Stairs?


Posted By: Synchestra
Date Posted: October 17 2009 at 04:55
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

I think some of you would like The Greatest Pacman Victory In History by Aesop Rock. It's about his experience with LSD and on the second verse, every three words begin with L S & D. Prog fans should be right at home with this theme.
I'm not really into rap, but what I've heard of Aesop Rock is definately where i would start as a prog fan.

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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: October 17 2009 at 06:09
He's probably the best candidate I know of for a prog rap artist, but arguably he's still not quite there. Try 'Mars Attacks' for a track that has a time signature shift.


Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: October 17 2009 at 07:07
Tres Deliquentas has the smoothest mix of Spanish and English, it's hypnotic. By the way, I love that 'shiftier than a manual trnsmission', good stuff. Long ago I used to write some rhymes and even deliver some on stage via my band, but I felt uncomfortable frontin about it cos I couldn't really freestyle worth a crap. Still, I love good wordplay whether it's Bob Dylan or Flav, ha ha. I guess you've heard Bob's early proto rap subteranean homesick blues (I think that's the name).
When I was a kid it was not uncommon for country songs to have a middle section with double time rhyming. That one guy that posted here would love that, country and rap together, yee haw.


Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: October 17 2009 at 15:26
I can freestyle humorously but when it comes to serious lyrics I need to write them first.
 
And if you want country/rap mixed together it actually exists already in the pretty good Buck 65 album, This Right Here Is Buck 65. Literally country music with rap.


Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 02:57
Proggish rap fans should check out Killah Priest's new album Elizabeth. It's a dark, wierd monster from one of my favourite lyricists.


Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 19:20
Love it. Some favourites:

De La Soul
KMD (early 90's DOOM)
MF DOOM
Lord Finesse
Pete Rock & CL Smooth
The Pharcyde
Eric B. & Rakim
Main Source
O.C.
DJ Screw
Brand Nubian
Kool G Rap & DJ Polo

and heaps more...


Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 01:45
Was anyone thinking of picking up Paralell Universes? Team-up album from two great voices in alt rap, Del The Funky Homosapien and Tame One. I was thinking about it.
 
I will definitely be getting the Canibus/Keith Murray album due out next year.


Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 11:08
Interesting recommendations, I probably should try to check them out, but ever since rap moved away from looping my favorite RnB/funk artists, my interest has moved to drumnbass, post rock, nu jazz, live electronica jam bands and stuff like that. I'd like to think we have a few other people on here that keep up with the more progressive end of the rap world though.


Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: October 26 2009 at 17:02
Was listening to Blue Scholars this morning. Didn't like them when I was introduced, thought they were boring but Bayani has really grown on me. Truth is that Geologic is a bit dull though he means well, but Sabzi saves the day by being a very good producer. And you get extra backpacker points for listening to a rap act that's half Filipino, half Iranian.


Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: October 26 2009 at 17:16

The only song I really enjoy is Gangstas Paradise, from Coolio, of the soundtrack of Dangerous Minds... powerfull lyrics with good and melodic chorus and a good message... the rest I don't like it or enjoy it or entertein me... maybe because there's no instruments or melodies on it... is something that ask myself a lot of times... but don't know why.. Geek



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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: October 26 2009 at 17:27
A respectable rap collection can consist solely of "Paul's Boutique" by the Beastie Boys.


Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: October 26 2009 at 19:20

Paul's Boutique is fantastic. I forgot about that one.



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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: October 26 2009 at 21:37
All you guys upping Paul's Boutique, seriously, get Beauty And The Beat by Edan already. They still make 'em like they used to.


Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: October 27 2009 at 12:10
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

All you guys upping Paul's Boutique, seriously, get Beauty And The Beat by Edan already. They still make 'em like they used to.


Its next to impossible to craft a sample-rich album like P.B. these days; way too much litigation, copyright clearance fees and time involved.


Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: October 27 2009 at 12:25

I'll be a good boy and won't say anything bad about chip-chop (russian spelling) and will say (on-topic)


that I've been listening this style a little bit when I was younger (13-16). 



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Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: October 28 2009 at 05:14
Rap/Hip-Hop?
 

YOU MUST BE FRECKIN' sh*tTING ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

IT DOES MY HEAD IN GAAAARRRRGGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  BLEEEAAACCCHHHHHH!!!!!!

 
Dead Dead Dead Dead Dead Dead Dead Dead Dead Dead Dead Dead
 
Sorry, but I couldn't be more disgusted with a genre of music, and both 'genre' and 'music' are used very losely in this context. Gonna go and have a nice quiet puke now.
 
I'm really upset!


Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: October 28 2009 at 05:42
Michael Franti, and Spearhead

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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: October 28 2009 at 17:04
 
 
This album is my jam at the moment.
 
And here's Edan's Rock And Roll- you should enjoy catching all the references in the lyrics and see if you can spot the Small Faces sample.
 


Posted By: crimson87
Date Posted: October 28 2009 at 17:10
I like the song "Act a Fool" from Ludacris.


Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: October 28 2009 at 21:14
Though I'm clearly a backpacker, some ignorant hip-hop can't be denied due to sheer sonic impact. Witness the greatest hits of the likes of DMX and MOP.


Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: October 30 2009 at 03:48
Anyone listen to The Coup?

And now, some Lonely Island.
 


Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: October 30 2009 at 04:19
Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

Rap/Hip-Hop?
 

YOU MUST BE FRECKIN' sh*tTING ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

IT DOES MY HEAD IN GAAAARRRRGGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  BLEEEAAACCCHHHHHH!!!!!!

 
Dead Dead Dead Dead Dead Dead Dead Dead Dead Dead Dead Dead
 
Sorry, but I couldn't be more disgusted with a genre of music, and both 'genre' and 'music' are used very losely in this context. Gonna go and have a nice quiet puke now.
 
I'm really upset!


You clearly misread the label on your bottle of Dutch Courage, it's very often a strong emetic.



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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: October 30 2009 at 09:11
[QUOTE=Textbook] Anyone listen to The Coup?


My band used to share gigs with The Coup in SF/Oakland late 80s. After letting them open once, I would never do that again because they didn't know when to stop and it was hard to get them to leave the stage, ha ha.


Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: October 30 2009 at 09:43
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

Anyone listen to The Coup?

And now, some Lonely Island.
 


LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Actually laughing right nowLOL


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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: October 30 2009 at 18:49
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

[QUOTE=Textbook] Anyone listen to The Coup?


My band used to share gigs with The Coup in SF/Oakland late 80s. After letting them open once, I would never do that again because they didn't know when to stop and it was hard to get them to leave the stage, ha ha.


Nice! Steal This album & Kill My Landlord have been in heavy rotation for many months of this year.


Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: June 29 2010 at 03:44
Just felt like reviving this thread in order to spark discussion again and to also make an apology. 

For years, I ignorantly considered Hip-Hop to be a stupid genre for stupid listeners, and never saw the appeal. I considered sampling to be a lazy, half-assed way to compose songs, and considered the artists involved to have very little talent. 

I was wrong. Boy, was I wrong. I feel like the stupid one for ever making such a broad and uneducated assumption about an entire genre of music. 

I'm now getting very interested in Hip-Hop (the best of it, not this mainstream Pop side of it that deterred me for years). So hopefully this discussion will pick up again so people can keep making lists and I can keep discovering. It's a whole new world for me, but I'm loving it so far. VERY underrated genre, specially in Prog circles. 


Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 29 2010 at 03:53
JLocke: I think your experience is pretty universal actually. The rap they show on TV is pretty much exclusively stupid so one concludes all rap is stupid. But the same can be said of a lot of the rock on TV too. If you hear rap records like Deltron 3030, The Cold Vein, Below The Heavens, Beauty And The Beat, None Shall Pass, Black On Both Sides, Eardrum, Resurrection, It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back, Rip The Jacker, Game Theory, Blazing Arrow, etc etc, that all starts to fall apart. Whatever that stuff is, "stupid" isn't it. You start to realise the endless lyrical/poetic possibilities of rapping and also beat creation, assembling and modifying sounds to construct tracks.
As I never tire of saying, the "rap sucks" brigade, have almost to a man, never actually listened to it. I find it very difficult to respect the opinions of people who review music they haven't heard.


Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: June 29 2010 at 04:18
^ Deltron 3030 is something I've really been digging lately. My friends have turned me onto DJ Shadow and Wyclef Jean, both of which I already love. And let's not forget the guys who first got me big into the genre in the first place: Public Enemy an Tribe Called Quest.

Some of the guys I've been discovering on my own include The Roots, The Beastie Boys and the sadistically funny ICP. The last of those I can only take in small doses, but still find entertaining. 

So, I'll check out the other stuff you listed just now I didn't recognize. Hopefully I'll enjoy most of them, if not all. Smile

I realize everybody makes this mistake, however I still feel foolish because as you pointed out, the same generalizations can be and have been made about any other genre out there, modern rock being the grandaddy of all the shallow assumptions. I just hope I never make just a gross error again. The more I discredit certain types of music based on guesses and not experience, the more potentially great music I miss out on. 


Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 29 2010 at 05:31
Those were albums I was listing there, not acts, but it's good to see you getting into rap. Surprised to see you bumping the Insane Clown Posse though, they're sometimes cited as one of rap's worst acts. If you enjoy their style, I think something similar is done a lot better by the likes of Brotha Lynch Hung, Esham and Necro, though you have to be prepared to stomach some EXTREMELY offensive lyrics.
 
More rap albums for the thinking man that I forgot to mention above: Illmatic, Liquid Swords, I Phantom, The Taste Of Rain Why Kneel...
 
Also, I'm sure you'd like De La Soul. All their albums are good so you can't really miss, but the first four are their most regarded.


Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: June 29 2010 at 05:46
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

 Also, I'm sure you'd like De La Soul. All their albums are good so you can't really miss, but the first four are their most regarded.


Yep, 3 feet high and rising is my favourite of those first couple. Also in a similar vain, early Jazz-rap, and a very slept on album/group is Jungle Brothers and their album Done by the forces of nature, which has been one of my favourites for a long time.

Nice to see some love for Blu & Exile, textbook


Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 29 2010 at 05:48
Funny though, I don't really like Jungle Brothers. Kind of bore me.
 
But yeah, that Blu & Exile was good. Did you check for Fashawn's Boy Meets World which comes from the same group of guys?


Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: June 29 2010 at 06:16
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

Funny though, I don't really like Jungle Brothers. Kind of bore me.
 
But yeah, that Blu & Exile was good. Did you check for Fashawn's Boy Meets World which comes from the same group of guys?


That's the way I felt about their first album, but the one I sited floored me. In that case, did you like Main Source's Breaking Atoms?

Nah, totally missed that one. Recent? I'm usually pretty slow on the up take. Any chance for a little more information?


Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: June 29 2010 at 06:17
I love Nate Dogg with Warren G , I mean these guys had the perfect formula and Nate is an incredible vocalist. Pity he can no longer play.
 
Nobody...does it better...Thumbs Up


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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: June 29 2010 at 06:23
Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:

I love Nate Dogg with Warren G , I mean these guys had the perfect formula and Nate is an incredible vocalist. Pity he can no longer play.
 
Nobody...does it better...Thumbs Up


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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 29 2010 at 06:33
Yeah I liked Breaking Atoms. Simple stuff but Large Professor has the charisma to pull it off. Did you get the recent official release of his lost classic The LP? I think you'd like it.
 
Boy Meets World is the 2009 debut album by rapper Fashawn, entirely produced by Exile, appearances by Blu and Aloe Blacc so that's the Below The Heavens posse right there. Also features Evidence, a guy I think you'd like. It's familiar stuff- jaws won't be on the floor- but done very well.


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 29 2010 at 07:00
Does anyone remember how good were the Black Eyed Peas when they started, back in the 90s? I liked their clever mix of funk, rap, and even jazz. I would never have guessed they'll go so commercial.


Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: June 29 2010 at 07:20
^
Yes, these days they play really uninspired and generic music, like most of the R'n'B meets rap bands.
 
Strange that rap went so popular these days, as at its beginning it was really loathed (at least in France). This is now probably the musical genre that sells the best. Imagine if bands of the other extreme musical genre (in terms of vocals) : death metal, were praised by the masses !


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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: June 29 2010 at 11:08
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

Those were albums I was listing there, not acts, but it's good to see you getting into rap. Surprised to see you bumping the Insane Clown Posse though, they're sometimes cited as one of rap's worst acts. If you enjoy their style, I think something similar is done a lot better by the likes of Brotha Lynch Hung, Esham and Necro, though you have to be prepared to stomach some EXTREMELY offensive lyrics.
 
More rap albums for the thinking man that I forgot to mention above: Illmatic, Liquid Swords, I Phantom, The Taste Of Rain Why Kneel...
 
Also, I'm sure you'd like De La Soul. All their albums are good so you can't really miss, but the first four are their most regarded.

I'm well aware that ICP is hated across the board. That doesn't change my opinion of them one bit. Wink

Sorry about the error I made. I think what threw me off was that Deltron 3030 is the album AND band, so I misunderstood. In any case, I'll look up those ALBUMS, and hopefully make even more discoveries. LOL


Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: June 29 2010 at 11:26
Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

OutKast deserves some credit. Stankonia and Speakerboxxx/The Love Below are two of the best rap albums I've ever heard.
Have you checked out Aquemini yet? It's a classic. As for something that (I think) hasn't been mentioned yet, Organized Konfusion. These guys are geniuses, and probably have one of the best debuts ever. And trust me, that's saying something, because there is a ton of great rap debuts from the 90's.


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Posted By: Noak
Date Posted: June 29 2010 at 12:14
My knowledge in Hip Hop/Rap is limited. I love Gravediggaz and Curse ov Dialect and I sort of like Madvillain.

Best Hip Hop song ever imo. The whole album (Wooden Tounges) is great, they have samples from Harry Partch and Comus.Thumbs Up



Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: June 29 2010 at 12:21
Originally posted by Noak Noak wrote:

My knowledge in Hip Hop/Rap is limited. I love Gravediggaz and Curse ov Dialect and I sort of like Madvillain.

Best Hip Hop song ever imo. The whole album (Wooden Tounges) is great, they have samples from Harry Partch and Comus.Thumbs Up

Comus? I'm impressed.


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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 29 2010 at 15:40
Lucas: Well, Opeth played the Royal Albert Hall the other day. People would've said you were mad if you predicted that in the 90s.
 
Noak: I have never heard this Curse Ov Dialect. I'll try to check them out sometime.


Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: June 29 2010 at 15:47
I honestly think DJ Romes is the greatest DJ ever. He can make any beat work. Here's just some of his work:



I'm pretty sure he's the only DJ who has ever had the balls to sample Gentle Giant before.



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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: June 29 2010 at 16:12
I need to get that Lootpack album already.
 
Oh and people need to check Brainchild by Society Of Soul. Completely forgotten classic.


Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: June 29 2010 at 21:18
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

Yeah I liked Breaking Atoms. Simple stuff but Large Professor has the charisma to pull it off. Did you get the recent official release of his lost classic The LP? I think you'd like it.
 
Boy Meets World is the 2009 debut album by rapper Fashawn, entirely produced by Exile, appearances by Blu and Aloe Blacc so that's the Below The Heavens posse right there. Also features Evidence, a guy I think you'd like. It's familiar stuff- jaws won't be on the floor- but done very well.


Yep, picked that one up. Not as good as breaking atoms, but definitely worth my time.

I'll check out Fashawn, sounds good. 


Originally posted by CinemaZebra CinemaZebra wrote:

  As for something that (I think) hasn't been mentioned yet, Organized Konfusion. These guys are geniuses, and probably have one of the best debuts ever. And trust me, that's saying something, because there is a ton of great rap debuts from the 90's.


Word, first two are fantastic, hard hitting albums. Pharoahe Monch is a force to be reckoned with. I'd have loved to see him battle back in the day.


Posted By: JROCHA
Date Posted: June 30 2010 at 10:26
I just seen Talib Kweli and Hi tek a couple weeks ago, it was a badass show! Talib even played a couple Blackstar tracks, that was cool. Hopefully Blackstar goes on tour in the near future, and a new album would be real nice too. Been really into hip hop this year, finding more and more artists all the time. Underground and Alternative Hip Hop is  were its at for me.

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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: July 05 2010 at 22:34
Rap fans, be sure to pick up the new Big Boi album Sir Luscious Leftfoot. REALLY good stuff.


Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: July 05 2010 at 22:41
THEY SEE ME ROLLIN DE HUNDIN!

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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: July 05 2010 at 22:47
Originally posted by Evolutionary Sleeper Evolutionary Sleeper wrote:

THEY SEE ME ROLLIN DE HUNDIN!

ROFL YES!! LOLLOLLOLClapClapClap


Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: July 06 2010 at 12:59
Does Jamiroquai come under the rap/hip hop umbrella?  That's one band I love a lot and recommendations for stuff on those lines would be great.  And how about the Peeping Tom s/t?


Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: July 06 2010 at 15:29
No, Jamiroquai are not rap/hip-hop.


Posted By: JROCHA
Date Posted: July 06 2010 at 15:36
Jamiroquai is like a blend of r&b, acid jazz and funk

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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: July 13 2010 at 03:54


Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: July 14 2010 at 03:42
Yet another greatest rap song of all time!
 


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 23 2010 at 17:39
i will also contribute with some Tech n9ne songs from the album Absolutt Power
 
 
 


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 23 2010 at 18:10

this is mye all time favourite rap song, and I'm quite serious a flawless song.

 
  Clap


Posted By: Mr Greeen Genes
Date Posted: July 23 2010 at 19:22
I don't like much rap but i always liked these songs a bit...
 
 
 
I like a couple songs from some other people like cypress hill, gravediggaz and wu-tang clan too...


Posted By: JROCHA
Date Posted: July 24 2010 at 12:48
Listening to Mecca and the Soul Brother by Pete Rock & CL Smooth, just classic!

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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: July 24 2010 at 21:51


Posted By: JROCHA
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 20:22
Some must have hip hop albums Fantastic Vol 1 & 2 by Slum Village. Produced by the great Jay Dilla...great stuff

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Posted By: DreamInSong
Date Posted: August 12 2010 at 00:27
Favorite Rap Song:




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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: August 12 2010 at 04:36

That is an amazing track. Pigeons is probably my favourite though.



Posted By: DreamInSong
Date Posted: August 12 2010 at 15:35
That entire album is golden! Anybody here listen to Instrumental Hip-Hop? I got into it about a week ago...




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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: August 12 2010 at 17:06
I've heard a lot about Blue Sky Black Death but have never actually gotten around to getting the album. I'll try and pick it up soon.


Posted By: DreamInSong
Date Posted: August 13 2010 at 18:39
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

I've heard a lot about Blue Sky Black Death but have never actually gotten around to getting the album. I'll try and pick it up soon.

Definitely do so, they are very good and you can't go wrong with any album. They do instrumental hip-hop, rap and even trip-hop. Very cool stuff Thumbs Up


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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 06:16
Went me to the shops and had a hip-hop shopping spree the other day. Haven't really listened to any thoroughly except the Canibus yet but they should all be good.
 
This is what I gots.
 
Nineteen Ninety Now- Celph Titled
Heaven Razah- Hell Razah
The Three Day Theory- Killah Priest
Gas Mask- The Left
C Of Tranquility- Canibus
In Search Of Stoney Jackson- Strong Arm Steady
Black Trash- Sticky Fingaz
The Old Prince- Shad
 
They're all recent except the Sticky Fingaz which is an overlooked 2001 record which was a concept album with a storyline running from beginning to end. Unfortunately overlooked- Sticky Fingaz's foul mouth reputation has a tendency to overshadow what was actually a very deep, cohesive and ambitious project.
Shad's album is a few years old too but he has a new one out called TSOL that people are saying is making him one of the best Canadian rappers of all time so I got his earlier one that also had some buzz around it.
I should probably also get Owl by Qwel & Maker.
 
As for that Canibus, good stuff. Hard and sometimes unexpected beats, complex and intense rhymes as always (except for Merchant Of Metaphors where Canibus displays his weakness for narrative with some nonsense about having government agents over for pancakes.) Probably better than his first album of 2010, Melatonin Magic. I could've asked for more of a point to the album though and also, some tracks are underdeveloped.
Strong Arm Steady seems to have great beats (all produced by Madlib) but Strong Arm Steady are so-so MCs, continually outshined by their guests like Planet Asia and Talib Kweli.
 
I haven't got it yet but a rap album has suddenly shot to the top of the 2010 list on rateyourmusic.com, Kno's Death Is Silent. Kno (from Cunninlynguists, whose album A Piece Of Strange is a must have) is a great producer but he's always struck me as a suspect rapper so I'm a bit hesitant to cop... anyone heard it?


Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 13:31
Originally posted by DreamInSong DreamInSong wrote:

Anybody here listen to Instrumental Hip-Hop? 



Answer your question? Wink

That song you posted was just lovely. I'm going to have to check that out. Thanks for sharing! Thumbs Up



Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 13:37
One of the greatest rap albums of all time:

http://www.blindiforthekids.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/G1-12-Album-Outkast-Aquemini.jpg

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Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 13:38
NO

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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 13:44
Originally posted by Hawkwise Hawkwise wrote:

NO

No to the above post, or no to Hip-Hop in general?


Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 13:47
HIP HOP  the hawk says NO

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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 13:51
Originally posted by Hawkwise Hawkwise wrote:

HIP HOP  the hawk says NO

I'm very sorry to hear that. You're missing out on some truly wonderful listening experiences. 


Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 13:56
NO no just like modern country pop music if hear it makes me feel like i need to kill something .

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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 14:24
Originally posted by Hawkwise Hawkwise wrote:

NO no just like modern country pop music if hear it makes me feel like i need to kill something .
 
That must totally be because of some problem with the music rather than with yourself.


Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 15:00
Putting on the Hell Razah, I was pretty shellshocked to find the first track built out of a Beegee's sample (Greatest Man In The World, Gibb fans) but it actually sounds pretty good, they put some creepy effects on it, very haunting.


Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 15:07
I like Eminem's Marshall Mathers LP... or at least part of it. 

Hiphop is not really my thing, so I have not dug deep and can't say too much about it.
However, people on PA are overreacting a lot when it comes to rap/hiphop. 

...and most hiphop is better than King Crimson anyway. Wink



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Posted By: sydbarrett2010
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 15:23
f**k rap/hip hop    rock/metal rules


Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 15:25

Amazingly, it is possible to love both.



Posted By: Noak
Date Posted: November 02 2010 at 16:01
I recently started a Hip Hop band with my drummer friend. It's gonna be tight yo'.


Posted By: JROCHA
Date Posted: November 03 2010 at 19:56
I need to get some DJ Shadow records, some other great instrumental hip hop albums:
 
Donuts - Jay Dee
Petestrumentals - Pete Rock
Shades of Blue - Madlib
 
good laid back tracks



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