Stairway to Heaven vs Child in Time
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Topic: Stairway to Heaven vs Child in Time
Posted By: Mind_Drive
Subject: Stairway to Heaven vs Child in Time
Date Posted: October 14 2009 at 19:14
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Led Zeppelin - Deep Purple As both songs are incredible masterpieces from Prog-Related or Proto-Progbands i want to know wich one you like more  itīs very hard i think but i had to vote for child in time... ------------- It's just a ride... <3 |
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: October 14 2009 at 19:15
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All that glitters is gold...
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Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: October 14 2009 at 19:18
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I voted Zeppelin because I know their stuff better and I really like Stairway to Heaven. -------------  |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: October 14 2009 at 19:28
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No match. Stairway still amazes me with its beauty and immaculate song construction. Child is nice but there's not all that much there beyond the gonzo vocal. People would appreciate Stairway even more had it not suffered so much from radio overkill. |
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: October 14 2009 at 19:29
+1 -------------
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Finnforest wrote:Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: October 14 2009 at 19:32
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I've already heard the song on the radio more than on my ipod. ------------- |
Posted By: progscl
Date Posted: October 14 2009 at 19:35
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Child In Time. Deep Purple Mark II at their best. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 14 2009 at 19:45
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I much prefer the track "Bombay Calling" that inspired "Child in Time" by It's a Beautiful Day (and Beautiful Days' was an adaptation of the be-bop jazzer Vince Wallace's "Bombay Calling": Great riff. Anyway, I'm voting for "Stairway to Heaven" though it's not a Zep favourite partially because of over-exposure. Give me "In the Light", "No Quarter", "Carouselambra", "Four Sticks" etc. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: October 14 2009 at 20:02
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I choose Child in Time, though if it had been something like Achilles Last Stand or Battle of Evermore in place of Stairway Zep would have won. I've just never been a huge fan of Stairway to be honest.
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: October 14 2009 at 20:11
| As a Deep Purple fanboy, I'll vote for Child in Time, but got to admit it tends to vary since I'm not much of a appreciator of this tune specifically, but neither I am of Zep's. |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: October 14 2009 at 20:22
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Funny how time alters things , was ahuge Stairway fan , saw it live and even sang it ona a few demos back in the 70s (no contract!) but recently I really am getting off on Child in Time. Both are undisputed classics. ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: Mind_Drive
Date Posted: October 14 2009 at 20:51
yeah thats true.. radio kills the music star, sadly  ------------- It's just a ride... <3 |
Posted By: camilleanne
Date Posted: October 14 2009 at 21:12
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My favorite is Stairway to Heaven..
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Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: October 14 2009 at 21:31
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I went to "Stairway to Heaven". However, two tunes might be tunes that should always be handed down. |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: October 14 2009 at 21:34
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Stairway to Heaven ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: October 14 2009 at 22:15
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"aaaaah, aaaah, aaaah.
aaaaah, aaaah, aaaah.
aaaaahaaahaaah.....
AAAAAAAAAIIIIIGH AAAAAAH AAAAUUUGH!
AAAAAAAAAIIIIIGH AAAAAAH AAAAUUUGH!!!!
AAAAAAAAYAAAHAAAAAaaa......."
- Child in Time
(funny, looks just like my sig)
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: October 14 2009 at 22:27
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Stairway. Though Child has the better guitar solo. ------------- Can you tell me where we're headin'? Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: October 14 2009 at 23:44
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I AM IRON MAN!!! ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 01:16
Is there someway to make a tie here? Stairway to Time? Child in Heaven?  I voted Stairway. I'm much more of a Purple-peep than a Zep-head, but Stairway to Heaven is such a great song, so well constructed. Overall, a much better composition.------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 02:27
| Both songs are great, but Child In Time has ix exclusive vocal! Vote for Deep Purple |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 02:32
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Stairway to Heaven. As Logan says, "Child in Time" is probably derived from "Bombay Calling". ------------- 
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Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 04:34
| I find that Child in Time has so much more energy. |
Posted By: ten years after
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 04:44
| Stairway to Heaven is between 200 and 300 in my top 1000 songs of all time. Child in Time is in my top 100. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 07:39
As stated a number of times in PA: which was in turn lifted from J.S.Bach and stated so in the line notes for a remastered issue of IABD album.
Johann Sebastian was targeted by a number of prog and heavy rock musicians at the end of the 60's and early 70's and indeed Wendy Carlos did a whole synth album Switched On Bach and later the complete Brandenburg Concertos. BBC 2 did a complete programme on why Bach's music appealed so much - particularly the Brandenburgs - in the early 70's . ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: Mind_Drive
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 08:51
Thats pretty interesting, didnīt knew that, or that child in time is inspired by another band either. I donīt know Bachs original theme, but i think Deep Purple made the best out of it  ------------- It's just a ride... <3 |
Posted By: progrules
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 09:22
Aaah, BS !! Also a classic, isnīt it ? ------------- A day without prog is a wasted day |
Posted By: Alberto Muņoz
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 09:35
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I don't know.
Both tracks are so overplayed that's i can remember note for note in my mind.
Instead i vote for July Morning -------------  |
Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 09:39
No vote, just a post  Both MASTERPIECES! |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 09:59
I did notice a Bach-like influence to it, but then that's not uncommon. That is interesting, thanks Dick. I used to have that Switched on Bach album (given to me by someone when I was five -- my father would not have approved), and as a kid, the Brandenburg Concertos was a particular favourite of mine (think I was attracted to the cover art on my parents' album initially). Been too many years since I listened to Brandenbug.... I've been moving back more to "academic" music (stopped listening to much of the music at one time because it made me too emotional). Do you know which particular Bach piece it was lifted from? Perhaps it should have been named something like "Variations on Bach's....). ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: silcir
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 11:14
| child in time. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 11:15
Forgive me, if I misread your question, but this is what Leonard Bernstein once called the 'transmoogrification' of the complete Brandeburg Concertos:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/images/B0000641BN/sr=8-2/qid=1255623013/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=229816&s=music&qid=1255623013&sr=8-2">
 e.g. available approximately close to what JSB intended on the likes of
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 11:40
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If "Bombay Calling" was lifted from Bach's Brandenburg Concertos, I was wondering which particular concerto, and which movement (assuming there is one in particular) it was based on (since I don't have the music available at home, I'd like to search youtube for it). ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 11:52
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I don't listen to either : Mainly cos of overplay so its a draw no vote ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: mr.cub
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 17:11
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went Child in Time to make it a tie ------------- 
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: October 15 2009 at 19:00
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For what it's worth (given the origin of Child In Time), the opening riff of Stairway is virtually a direct lift of the melody of Spirit's Taurus, from their first album.
Oughtta make a new poll: Bombay Calling vs. Taurus  ------------- Can you tell me where we're headin'? Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
Posted By: Mind_Drive
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 03:48
 that kinda destroys my view of the world, that 2 of the songs wich i thought of were one of the most impressive in my life are actually inspired by other bands -.-^^------------- It's just a ride... <3 |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 04:08
For clarity. I didn't say Bombay Calling/Child In Time were borrowed from Bach's Brandenburgs - rather these tunes' main themes come from a Bach piece. Brandenburgs came into the discussion because of the interest some prog and other musicians had in them end of 60's/beginning 70's, e.g. Keith Emerson & Nice, WendyCarlos, so reflecting a broader interest in Bach - BTW add to the list Dave Stewart and Egg. Slightly divergent Modern Jazz Quartet did a whole album of Bach interpretations around this time.
In part the Brit prog interest perhaps stems from the relationship of church organ music and some of the teaching prog keyboardist got or environments they may have practiced - as proposed by Ed Macan in his thesis/book RockingThe Classics. ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 04:11
In truth that's my feeling too - I glad to find others get burn out from overplay. Add the original versions of Darkside and Sgt Pepper to my "had enough of" list., although I do get fresh pleasure from Easy Stars All Stars interpretations. ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 08:00
both great songs, they just don't write 'em like that anymore 
do they?
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Posted By: Cactus Choir
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 08:18
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I voted Child in Time because: a. It's got a Hammond organ (hurrah!) and b. It hasn't been quite so played to death. There are other tracks by both bands I listen to far more though and these two definitely suffer from over-exposure. ------------- "And now...on the drums...Mick Underwooooooooood!!!" "He's up the pub" |
Posted By: Philip
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 12:16
| Child in Time. Better vocals, and because it is more intense |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: October 16 2009 at 13:05
| One is over played(most played song in FM history) and the other never gets or got played at all. I like both and choose not to choose. |
Posted By: Trianium
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 14:33
| Bufff....it's a hard decission but i prefer Child in TIme, and overall i prefer purple to zeppelin. |
Posted By: tintedweed
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 14:56
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Easy ..Child in Time..... :)
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 15:35
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Child in Time for me - a band finding their way and stretching every sinew to get where they were going.
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Posted By: Sangria
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 15:48
Same reasons I voted for Child In Time.
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Posted By: BFD31095
Date Posted: October 23 2009 at 22:25
| I prefer Deep Purple over Zeppelin, and worship Child In Time, but I had to vote for Stairway To Heaven. Its amazing. |
Posted By: ten years after
Date Posted: October 24 2009 at 00:31
A digression from the main topic: Do/Would you catalogue Switched on Bach under Wendy Carlos or Walter Carlos? A similar question would apply to Cat Stevens I suppose or Simon Dupree/Gentle Giant.
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: October 24 2009 at 05:16
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Stairway to Heaven! ------------- 
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Posted By: scaife
Date Posted: October 25 2009 at 08:43
| I still remember (over 30 years ago) riding in the back seat of my uncle's Roadrunner screaming down the streets of Pembroke when he put the 8 track tape of Deepest Purple on the stereo....Child In Time totally blew away my 6 year old brain. Voted accordingly. |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: October 25 2009 at 08:51
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Stairway to Heaven. The construction of "Child in Time" is not very interesting, even it's a strong and striking song. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: October 30 2009 at 11:40
Can't be Pembroke in Wales can it - at least not in 2009? Only a couple of streets to scream along - but then parked cars restrict the flow - and then you're either into the countryside or fallen into Milford Haven???? ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: October 30 2009 at 11:41
Can't be Pembroke in Wales can it - at least not in 2009? Only a couple of streets to scream along - but parked cars restrict the flow - and then you're either into the countryside or fallen into Milford Haven???? ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: Epyros
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 00:08
| two great songs, and both ripped off their intros, i'll stay purple |
Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 18:30
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Stairway To Heaven has been done to death, unfortunately. Voted for Child In Time. Ian Gillan's vocal performance never ceases to amaze me, after all these years. Both are great tracks.
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Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 18:52
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Stairway to Heaven is better composition-wise, but something about the raw energy/passion of Child In Time wins me over. |
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 20:16
The result of this poll is just sad to me  ------------- http://blindpoetrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: ko
Date Posted: November 14 2009 at 08:38
yea, i agreed!
Stairway to Heaven is, basicly, a stolen idea ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wtp8H_GiZQI - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wtp8H_GiZQI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czfI66yQUkk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czfI66yQUkk
PS actually, both epics by those extreme ambitiosly British bands are ripped off from two instrumental pieces made by two bands from California in 1968
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 15 2009 at 01:37
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it really is apples and oranges here.... i went for zeppelin, but partly because iīm trying to seduce this beautiful woman, who apparently doesnīt know any of the songs....???? if you need some (almost) celtic romance sing-a-long-song, then you should go for the zep, but if you want the screams of a castrated rock nīroll frontman mixed with a great improv - Sheep Hurdle should be your choice. |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 15 2009 at 14:08
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Both great song, of course, but Stairway takes the lead for me
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: November 16 2009 at 09:45
| I would never actively choose to listen to Stairway (I heard it way too much in the 70s, and have not yet recovered from the overkill, so it still sounds trite to me, other than the guitar solo near the end), but might choose "Child in Time", so it gets my vote |
Posted By: mohaveman
Date Posted: November 16 2009 at 14:40
| I've heard it too many times, but Stairway is still the classic |
Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: November 16 2009 at 22:31
| Theres no debate, Stairway To Heaven is the CLASSIC rock song. |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: November 17 2009 at 10:51
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I think Robert Plant would have woted fot Child in Time (becouse he is so tired about StH becouse it is the only Led Zeppelin song that are playd on comercal radio) in all interviews he have said that he litarly hate that song for that reason (even thoe he have become milionair becouse of it) I also read some place that he was willing to bann the song from being playd on radio |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: November 17 2009 at 11:00
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and Jeremy "Jaz" Coleman from Killing Joke have triscribed Stairway to heaven to a classical piece http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0aGQSOWH4I - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0aGQSOWH4I on the last 3 minutes of the clip |
Posted By: TexasKing
Date Posted: December 26 2017 at 11:33
| Child in Time easily. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 26 2017 at 11:51
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It's weird seeing these bumped polls. I look at my post on page one which was made over eight years ago and it feels like I wrote that yesterday (and my opinion hasn't changed in that time). I voted for Zepp despite it not being a particular favourite and Bombay Calling over Child in Time still. Edit: I will add something that goes beyond my initial post in this thread. I think that I would have liked Child in Time more had I not already been familiar with It's a Beautiful Day's Bombay Calling (it's a bit like my sometime bias against movie and TV show remakes). It is a good song in its own right, and both bands based their tracks on Vince Wallace's theme according to Wallace. Wallace claims he came up with it in 1962 and taught it to LaFlamme , but the first Bombay Calling recording is credited to LaFlamme later of It's a a Beautuful Day, plus Vince Wallace, by The Orkustra (1967). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABkV4_Dv6ac" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABkV4_Dv6ac ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 26 2017 at 12:41
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Well....imho Stairway is the better track.......and Zep the better and more interesting band. I always thought Deep Purple were one of those bands that came up with an interesting rock song now and then but ultimately a mediocre hard rock band with a very good guitarist. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: December 26 2017 at 14:37
| This result is surprising me. Thought Zeppelin would run away with this. |
Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: December 26 2017 at 14:51
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Stairway to Heaven can lay claim to being my favourite song when I was 10, but I've found Child In Time has held up a lot better over time. ------------- when i was a kid a doller was worth ten dollers - now a doller couldnt even buy you fifty cents |
Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: December 26 2017 at 15:04
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Stairway: masterpiece Child: excellent |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: December 26 2017 at 23:39
| Really have always loved both, but because Stairwayīs got more sensitivity (Childīs more macho) it got my vote. |
Posted By: ClosetothSupperBrick
Date Posted: December 29 2017 at 20:21
| It's a dead heat! One more vote for Stairway and it would be a tie. Funny, I would vote for Stairway if I had the ability to vote... - - I like both songs though, as many have already said on here, but maybe because I've heard both songs about 6 times (I'm a young-un) that I chose the song that's (probably) most people's favorite (of the two) after the first time they heard it (radio overplay over the years has changed that previously stated opinion of those who initially liked it). |
Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: December 30 2017 at 16:15
| My vote is Starway to Heaven but Child in Time is outstanding too !!! |
Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: December 30 2017 at 17:56
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: December 30 2017 at 18:03
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we are currently having a tie at 64 both, and I don't have the heart to break it either way -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Michael P. Dawson
Date Posted: December 30 2017 at 19:49
I do!  ------------- Buy this thing! https://store.cdbaby.com/Artist/MichaelPDawson" rel="nofollow - https://store.cdbaby.com/Artist/MichaelPDawson |
Posted By: AEProgman
Date Posted: December 30 2017 at 19:58
Holy staircases Batman! This poll started in 2009! Miss Finnforest's (Jim) posts now-a-days, but agree with his statement here. Stairway it is... ------------- 
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Posted By: Tillerman88
Date Posted: December 30 2017 at 20:18
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Child in Time - thrilling travel but no to Heaven
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: December 30 2017 at 21:02
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Hairway to Steven, as others have said, is just SO classic. Deeper, too. I love Child in Thyme, but just tonight, coincidentally, over a few beer, when it came up on one of my many "Classics" playlists, I skipped it after a minute. I can't always take its histrionics. Funny: I don't think Stairway made it into any of those playlists. I have simply heard it too many times but still respect it tremendously as one of the all-time top iconic rock songs. (Likewise the Beatles: none of their songs made my list, but they are my top band ever. They practically raised me--and prepared me for Zep & Purple!) ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: February 17 2018 at 10:47
 Just for completeness I'll add Gentle Giant - Nothing at all (1970) P.S. My vote goes to Child In Time. ------------- http://theprogressiveweb.blogspot.de" rel="nofollow - Visit me in Second Life to talk about music. |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: February 17 2018 at 12:16
| Stairway. |
Posted By: DeadSouls
Date Posted: February 18 2018 at 14:09
| Stairway |