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Topic: ProgArchives Book
Posted By: victor77
Subject: ProgArchives Book
Date Posted: May 28 2009 at 09:09
Just a curiosity, has it ever been considered to print an edition with the contents of the site?
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: May 28 2009 at 09:20
Who will select better reviews (I don't think anybody needs hundreds of ITCOTCK, DSOTM, SEBTP etc reviews) and who will correct all spelling errors in reviews and bios?
And who will buy it, if all information is available online and constantly grows?
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Posted By: The Runaway
Date Posted: May 28 2009 at 15:32
I sure will go for correcting some of the typos if this is to happen.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 28 2009 at 16:02
If you assume a 400 page book - you are looking at 12 bands, 57 albums and 460 ratings/reviews per page. (Microscope extra)
If we allowed 1 band per page and 400 pages per book that would be an 11 volume set.
If we allowed 1 album per page the book would be 1.29m thick (4 feet 3 inches).
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Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: May 28 2009 at 17:03
It's feasible:
could fit alot on these pages 
With the site continually adding content, the volume set would be outdated in a matter of a couple of months.. A magazine would be cool though...
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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: May 29 2009 at 04:18
Theoretically it's possible to manufacture something of a size of Encyclopaedia Britannica - but then we should get supplementals every week.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 29 2009 at 04:19
^ or daily for the Prog Metal section 
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: May 29 2009 at 04:39
I'm still waiting for the Silly Story book.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 29 2009 at 05:08
^ that could be done fairly easily - http://www.lulu.com - www.lulu.com - but who'd buy it?
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: May 29 2009 at 10:12
I`ve got a book already written but nobody will touch it because of the title " The Sun Shines Out Of My Ass ". I`ll actually try these guys. I even like the name Lulu Lulu. Sounds like looney. I like it. I like it.
As for a book about progrock. The only one I can think of that comes close to hitting the nail on the head and puts prog into perspective is Edward Macan`s semi-scholarly work entitled " Rockin`The Classics ".
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: May 29 2009 at 15:03
Vibrationbaby wrote:
I`ve got a book already written but nobody will touch it because of the title " The Sun Shines Out Of My Ass ".
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I'd buy it for the title alone.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 29 2009 at 15:19
Vibrationbaby wrote:
I`ve got a book already written but nobody will touch it because of the title " The Sun Shines Out Of My Ass ". I`ll actually try these guys. I even like the name Lulu Lulu. Sounds like looney. I like it. I like it. |
Lulu is self-publishing (so called vanity press) so they will print it regardless of the title.
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Posted By: victor77
Date Posted: June 02 2009 at 10:09
My idea wasnīt a collection of reviews, but a collection of bands and artists and their records. Maybe Iīm a bit romantic, but I have always considered a printed edition more serious (in scholar terms, itīs always considered a more serious reference a book than a website).
Imagine some kind of porg rock atlas:
vol1: Europe
vol 2. Asia
vol 3: USA and Canada
vol 4: South America
vol 5: Africa (as far as I know, not too many bands from there, so it could be joined with another volume)
vol 6: Australia
Who would buy it? well, it could be useful to launch the question "Would you buy the Ultimate Prog Rock Resource if it was printed?" Well, I donīt know about the rest of you, but I would
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: June 02 2009 at 12:16
Dean wrote:
Vibrationbaby wrote:
I`ve got a book already written but nobody will touch it because of the title " The Sun Shines Out Of My Ass ". I`ll actually try these guys. I even like the name Lulu Lulu. Sounds like looney. I like it. I like it. |
Lulu is self-publishing (so called vanity press) so they will print it regardless of the title. | I`ve also been considering alternatives including Cabbage Patch Of My Mind. Probably taken though.
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: June 02 2009 at 12:19
victor77 wrote:
My idea wasnīt a collection of reviews, but a collection of bands and artists and their records. Maybe Iīm a bit romantic, but I have always considered a printed edition more serious (in scholar terms, itīs always considered a more serious reference a book than a website).
Imagine some kind of porg rock atlas:
vol1: Europe
vol 2. Asia
vol 3: USA and Canada
vol 4: South America
vol 5: Africa (as far as I know, not too many bands from there, so it could be joined with another volume)
vol 6: Australia
Who would buy it? well, it could be useful to launch the question "Would you buy the Ultimate Prog Rock Resource if it was printed?" Well, I donīt know about the rest of you, but I would | Couldn`t see it as being very profitable endeavour. Check out Martin C Strong`s The Great Rock Discography, The Great Metal Discography and The Great Psychedelic Discography. He covers many bands and artists featured here.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 02 2009 at 12:28
victor77 wrote:
My idea wasnīt a collection of reviews, but a collection of bands and artists and their records. Maybe Iīm a bit romantic, but I have always considered a printed edition more serious (in scholar terms, itīs always considered a more serious reference a book than a website).
Imagine some kind of porg rock atlas:
vol1: Europe
vol 2. Asia
vol 3: USA and Canada
vol 4: South America
vol 5: Africa (as far as I know, not too many bands from there, so it could be joined with another volume)
vol 6: Australia
Who would buy it? well, it could be useful to launch the question "Would you buy the Ultimate Prog Rock Resource if it was printed?" Well, I donīt know about the rest of you, but I would |
I would imagine that some volumes would sell better than others and Europe would have to be split into several volumes but it certainly stacks up with the maths in my earlier post:
Dean wrote:
If we allowed 1 band per page and 400 pages per book that would be an 11 volume set.
If we allowed 1 album per page the book would be 1.29m thick (4 feet 3 inches). |
...of course we would have to completely revise and rewrite many of the biographies to bring them to an equal standard and format, and there would be the issue of album cover image copyright because the size and quality of the images would have to be far greater than we have here (ie 600dpi Print quality rather than 200px overall size)
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: June 02 2009 at 12:35
Vompatti wrote:
Vibrationbaby wrote:
I`ve got a book already written but nobody will touch it because of the title " The Sun Shines Out Of My Ass ".
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I'd buy it for the title alone.
| it`s got great chapters on how to make a 1965 Barracuda go really fast, how to lose weight by crossing the antarctic, a compact guide to birdwatching in the Columbian rainforest, the sexiest women of the sixties, how to become a military general and much much more. 250 pages of pure fun and excitement! My wife thinks I should turn it into a children`s book.
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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: June 02 2009 at 14:16
Speaking of children's books. Prog Rock encyclopaedia should be a picture book, perhaps with cardboard pop-up characters (Fripp bumping off his stool, customize you own Keith Emerson gear, pick a costume for Peter Gabriel). With such a book we could introduce prog to our children one day!
Of course, the whole avant category should not be included because it can scare the children away. Except maybe "pick you own mask for Captain Trout the Beefheart".
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 02 2009 at 19:47
hell yeah I'd get a Prog Encyclopedia ..problem is, we are the Prog Encylopedia, kinda ruins the thrill
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: June 03 2009 at 01:47
Atavachron wrote:
hell yeah I'd get a Prog Encyclopedia ..problem is, we are the Prog Encylopedia, kinda ruins the thrill
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Well said!
I'd buy one... Just to have it in a hard copy though.
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: June 05 2009 at 14:17
Seriously, how could a book top what`s here.
Besides nobody reads books anymore anyway. Just saw a survey in the paper last week and it`s kind of horrifying the number of people who said that they haven`t read a single book this year. Some people even reported not having read a book for years. Also, even here in Canada there are still people who are illiterate.
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: June 28 2009 at 05:29
Vibrationbaby wrote:
Seriously, how could a book top what`s here. Besides nobody reads books anymore anyway. Just saw a survey in the paper last week and it`s kind of horrifying the number of people who said that they haven`t read a single book this year. Some people even reported not having read a book for years. Also, even here in Canada there are still people who are illiterate.
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I've read 6 books this year!
Thats insane that people haven't read a book in an entire year... MADNESS I SAY!
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 28 2009 at 07:48
progkidjoel wrote:
Vibrationbaby wrote:
Seriously, how could a book top what`s here. Besides nobody reads books anymore anyway. Just saw a survey in the paper last week and it`s kind of horrifying the number of people who said that they haven`t read a single book this year. Some people even reported not having read a book for years. Also, even here in Canada there are still people who are illiterate.
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I've read 6 books this year!
Thats insane that people haven't read a book in an entire year... MADNESS I SAY! |
People who never read books didn't do so even before the Internet - I know this for a fact, because Italy has always had a very low reader rate. I see lots of people reading everything - books, magazines, newspaper - when travelling around on the bus or metro. There have always been people not into reading, while those who are will continue doing so.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 28 2009 at 07:59
victor77 wrote:
Just a curiosity, has it ever been considered to print an edition with the contents of the site? |
nah.... just wait for the made for TV movie.
still in casting right now.... rumour has it that the folllowing have been already casted.
as M@X..
he only got one scene... where he rubs his hands in glee as Goggle ad money rolls in.

as Tony R..

as Ivan....

as the lovely Raffaella...

as the mighty Mick...

as you can see casting hasn't got too far.. but the movie should be a great one. Lots of violence, sex, treachery, plotlines that will keep you on the edge of your seat as the fates of bands like the Stranglers are decided. Tune in and see what REALLY goes on behind the scenes at PA's
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: June 28 2009 at 13:47
micky wrote:
victor77 wrote:
Just a curiosity, has it ever been considered to print an edition with the contents of the site? |
nah.... just wait for the made for TV movie.
still in casting right now.... rumour has it that the folllowing have been already casted.
as M@X..
he only got one scene... where he rubs his hands in glee as Goggle ad money rolls in.

as Tony R..

as Ivan....

as the lovely Raffaella...

as the mighty Mick...

as you can see casting hasn't got too far.. but the movie should be a great one. Lots of violence, sex, treachery, plotlines that will keep you on the edge of your seat as the fates of bands like the Stranglers are decided. Tune in and see what REALLY goes on behind the scenes at PA's
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Micky - I would pay BIG money to see that movie - you are hereby signed up as Director and Creative Producer 

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 28 2009 at 14:33
hahhaha... I am a man of many talents. Hollywood Mogul could suit me fine. 
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