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Topic: Your music sucks
Posted By: Alitare
Subject: Your music sucks
Date Posted: May 22 2009 at 23:30
So here we go. After listening to Mastodon's Crack The Skye, again, then giving Wish You Were Here a listen, I have come to a conclusion.

Progressive rock is pathetic. That is right. These albums are mere showings of how terrible this music is, and you should all be ashamed of listening to it. Especially you. That's right, you heard me, or read me.

First off, it is all built on forcing yourself to like it. Some artists and pants-wetting fans might toss around words such as "deep" "complex" "meaningful" or the best one "it's a grower". These people have stunted mental growth, and should be arrested for attempted assassination...of good music.

It is obvious that progressive rock is inferior to all other genres of music, especially new age-classical and punk rock. Anyone denying this has low self esteem issues and glandular disorders. Pink Floyd? They did nothing but make one note guitar solos for whole albums, and are a complete and utter waste of time to listen to.

That whole avantgarde shtick is ridiculous. What is that, they are good because they purposely play material that isn't music? I'd say these terrible artists such as Frank Zappa, Captain Beefheart, and Henry Cow were just bumbling drug abusers, rather than musicians.

Your musical taste sucks, and you should all go listen to a REAL album, like the Dirty dancing soundtrack, or a Judas Priest tribute album.



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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: May 22 2009 at 23:56
I agree, it's a travesty of a mockery of a sham




Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 00:00
Maybe because Mastodon is somewhat annoying and WYWH sucks.


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Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 00:01
Don't stay run away


Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 00:22
this thread reminds me, I really want to get this shirt:




Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 00:30
I keep telling people that, but they just don't seem to listen.
 
We should just listen to gregorian chants all the time.


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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 00:33
You miss one vital point.

A lot of avant-garde music is performed by people who have no clue about music and cannot play their instruments.  They just bash pots and pans and sustain one note on a kazoo for hours.

Therefore this type of music is in fact, better than prog for sheer musicianship.


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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 01:27
Yeah, that progressive metal stuff, what a load of garbage.
I thought "normal" metal was bad, geezus, I heard prog metal, what a turd.


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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 01:44
Frank Zappa was clean the whole time. No drugs whatsoever, he even kicked people out of his band if they did any while working with him.

the others i dont know...

btw original poster, you mentioned 2 of the most commercial albums in prog rock. one from the 70s, one from now.

the whole original post sounds like a thought you had that will probably one day change (and probably soon)

i still say people's tastes are different. I personally think there's nothing to find in Focus' music or Atomic Rooster. but then again, i love Miles Davis and Frank Zappa and there's people who dont like them.


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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 01:46
btw i just realized this thread is sarscastic

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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 02:15


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 02:47
I've pretty much had it with all music.  Now excuuuse me while I go stick an ice pick in my forehead.

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 03:19
This is a staff anouncement, instore cleaner to aisle 3  - someone's had an epiphany.

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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 03:56
...a Judas Priest tribute album is not bad though...LOL


Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 04:12
Especially the post-1989 stuff. That lot is awful.


Posted By: el dingo
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 04:35
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

btw i just realized this thread is sarscastic
 
No it isn't, he means every word - don't you Alitare?Wink
 
 


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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 05:05
Damn right, I do. You all are a gaggle of pretentious fools, and you are all wrong, all the time, always and forever.

Die, you cretins, in your pitiful obscurity as you listen to substandard music.


Posted By: el dingo
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 05:13
Originally posted by Alitare Alitare wrote:

Damn right, I do. You all are a gaggle of pretentious fools, and you are all wrong, all the time, always and forever.

Die, you cretins, in your pitiful obscurity as you listen to substandard music.
 
As a proud cretin who is happy to be part of a gang of pretentious fools I am going on a one-hour walk to a different pub today (Tongue) so I shall indulge myself in the sheer unadulterated stupidity of listening to Mastodon's Crack the Skye on the way there and Pendragon's Pure on the way back.
 
I must be one of the most dim-witted of us - these albums were made so long after 1989 that they're almost fresh. I don't even have the sense to stick my head in the sand and stick with the traditonal, classic rubbish that most of my peer group apparently listens to.
 
So Yah, Boo Sucks - I'm a Teenage Lobotomy. (Well, I'm 51 actually, but I still don't have a cerebellum)


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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 05:27
Placation in sin, my poor delusional friend. May your grave be urinated upon by Iggy Pop.

Jokes aside, is it almost unanimous that everyone scoffs and makes fun of Walter's musical ideas, because they think it is a complete crock?


Posted By: el dingo
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 05:38
^
 
I really dunno. I've never found a problem listening to anything I like from any era without fear of embarrassment. I certainly don't think music has ever "died" as it were, more that certain periods of time have produced less of what I regard as "good stuff" than others.
 
The older I get the more pleased I am that I'm seeking out new stuff and there's enough of the parasite in me to see what seems to be hot on PA and pick up on it - at least try it anyway - and my reward has been getting really into The Decemberists, Mastodon, Karmakanic, Pendragon and others that I never would have heard without PA.
 
My son's 17 so I naturally get to hear what's fresh across the Metal genres from him, but he's not into prog and nor are any of my friends. Equally he loves a lot of my old metal so I don't rip him off!
 
i do have this horrible trait of retreating into sarcasm when i see certain recurring themes in the forum - I don't like to be too serious - just enjoy the forums and my music.
 
Now, time to set out for the pub and listen to that worthless trash that will probably make it a certainty that Iggy will reform the Stooges for one reason only... so that ALL FOUR of them can p*ss on my grave!


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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 05:42
Erm, one of The Stooges is dead... Stern Smile

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Posted By: el dingo
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 05:46
^
 
Oh well, they'll have to perform as a trio thenTongue


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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 06:40
Well, the death of key members didn't stop The Doors or Queen from reforming.. You even have the Sensational Alex Harvey Band WITHOUT Alex HarveyLOL!


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 06:49

And Alex was still alive then. Wink



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Posted By: dude
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 09:29
Mastadons? i thought they were extinct!, now lo and behold they are alive and well and even making music!!!....smart animals!!







Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 09:34
Originally posted by moreitsythanyou moreitsythanyou wrote:

Maybe because Mastodon is somewhat annoying and WYWH sucks.
 
Why, because they don't have Thom Yorke moaning incomprehensibly over contrived electronics and/or hilariously over-praised modern rock? Wink


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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 14:16
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by moreitsythanyou moreitsythanyou wrote:

Maybe because Mastodon is somewhat annoying and WYWH sucks.
 
Why, because they don't have Thom Yorke moaning incomprehensibly over contrived electronics and/or hilariously over-praised modern rock? Wink

Yes.


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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 15:26
Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

this thread reminds me, I really want to get this shirt:


 
The entirety of interaction on the internet can basically be boiled down to "Your favorite [fill in the blank] sucks."
 


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Posted By: Captain Capricorn
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 15:36
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:



LOL LOL LOL

...I can totally relate to this

LOL


Posted By: The T
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 17:03
No children should go home riding cars with strangers... they may try nasty things...

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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 18:41
Beer makes you think you are funnier than you are.

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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 20:05
Harder alcohol makes you think you're sorrier than you really are.
 
Therefore, the right balance is drink a lot of beer and then when you start acting stupid drink a lot of whisky or vodka... then you'll be your normal self again...


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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 20:14
Funny when I've tried that in the past I get very very sleepy. People start poking you with sticks and laughing.

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 20:46
^ and shave a stripe down the center of your head. LOL

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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 20:57
As you can see by my picture, I wasn't in a good mood once I found out.

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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.


Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 21:11
Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

Especially the post-1989 stuff. That lot is awful.


Intolerable, inexcusable filth it is! Bless you for pointing that out, good sir.


Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 22:19

anything before 1989 is complete garbage and the only music of any redeemable worth was produced after that set cutoff



Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 22:27
Originally posted by Leningrad Leningrad wrote:

anything before 1989 is complete garbage and the only music of any redeemable worth was produced after that set cutoff



Quite possibly the stupidest statement ever uttered by any human being.


Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 22:37
Walter I almost have to admire your tenacity.

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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 23:41
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

Especially the post-1989 stuff. That lot is awful.


Intolerable, inexcusable filth it is! Bless you for pointing that out, good sir.
 
I know. I laugh at every person who announces these stupid bands as masters of music. They aren't even half good, much less masters.
 
Everyone these days listens to this embarrassing metal music. I took a listen to Meshuggah, and it was just noise, no talent whatsoever. Another guy here made me listen to some song by Between The Bread and Me to convince me that metal was creative, and he thought it was just brilliant because they had a minute of a bluegrass band playing in their song. And then there's this stupid band named Tool that just sucks altogether.
 
Metal is crap.
 
The only good music has been made before 1989. Anything after it is garbage. Absolute drivel.


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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 23:47
Originally posted by topofsm topofsm wrote:

Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

Especially the post-1989 stuff. That lot is awful.


Intolerable, inexcusable filth it is! Bless you for pointing that out, good sir.
 
I know. I laugh at every person who announces these stupid bands as masters of music. They aren't even half good, much less masters.
 
Everyone these days listens to this embarrassing metal music. I took a listen to Meshuggah, and it was just noise, no talent whatsoever. Another guy here made me listen to some song by Between The Bread and Me to convince me that metal was creative, and he thought it was just brilliant because they had a minute of a bluegrass band playing in their song. And then there's this stupid band named Tool that just sucks altogether.
 
Metal is crap.
 
The only good music has been made before 1989. Anything after it is garbage. Absolute drivel.
Don't you mean 1789? Romanticism ruined music.

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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: May 25 2009 at 13:10
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by topofsm topofsm wrote:

Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

Especially the post-1989 stuff. That lot is awful.


Intolerable, inexcusable filth it is! Bless you for pointing that out, good sir.
 
I know. I laugh at every person who announces these stupid bands as masters of music. They aren't even half good, much less masters.
 
Everyone these days listens to this embarrassing metal music. I took a listen to Meshuggah, and it was just noise, no talent whatsoever. Another guy here made me listen to some song by Between The Bread and Me to convince me that metal was creative, and he thought it was just brilliant because they had a minute of a bluegrass band playing in their song. And then there's this stupid band named Tool that just sucks altogether.
 
Metal is crap.
 
The only good music has been made before 1989. Anything after it is garbage. Absolute drivel.

Don't you mean 1789? Romanticism ruined music.

Romanticism? Dude, music died the day polyphony was invented. 



Posted By: horsewithteeth11
Date Posted: May 25 2009 at 13:18
Originally posted by Petrovsk Mizinski Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

Yeah, that progressive metal stuff, what a load of garbage.
I thought "normal" metal was bad, geezus, I heard prog metal, what a turd.

I know. They all just try to sound like Dream Theater, who sucks as it is.


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Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: May 25 2009 at 13:19
Well, Wish You Were Hear is a pretty a poor album


Posted By: el dingo
Date Posted: May 25 2009 at 14:06
^
 
Especially Shine on You Crazy Diamond. I absolutely hate that track.


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Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: May 25 2009 at 21:12
Music.
 
I hate music.
 
All of it.


Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: May 25 2009 at 22:30



Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 00:56


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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 01:29


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Posted By: inrainbows
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 01:32
ok,  someone get the ice  LOL

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Posted By: progrules
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 01:36
Originally posted by Alitare Alitare wrote:

So here we go. After listening to Mastodon's Crack The Skye, again, then giving Wish You Were Here a listen, I have come to a conclusion.

Progressive rock is pathetic. That is right. These albums are mere showings of how terrible this music is, and you should all be ashamed of listening to it. Especially you. That's right, you heard me, or read me.

First off, it is all built on forcing yourself to like it. Some artists and pants-wetting fans might toss around words such as "deep" "complex" "meaningful" or the best one "it's a grower". These people have stunted mental growth, and should be arrested for attempted assassination...of good music.

It is obvious that progressive rock is inferior to all other genres of music, especially new age-classical and punk rock. Anyone denying this has low self esteem issues and glandular disorders. Pink Floyd? They did nothing but make one note guitar solos for whole albums, and are a complete and utter waste of time to listen to.

That whole avantgarde shtick is ridiculous. What is that, they are good because they purposely play material that isn't music? I'd say these terrible artists such as Frank Zappa, Captain Beefheart, and Henry Cow were just bumbling drug abusers, rather than musicians.

Your musical taste sucks, and you should all go listen to a REAL album, like the Dirty dancing soundtrack, or a Judas Priest tribute album.
 
You sound just like my collegues who I try to infect occasionally with prog. It's not working ... Ouch  LOL.
Well, it's their loss, isn't it ?


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Posted By: progrules
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 01:38
Originally posted by Alitare Alitare wrote:

Placation in sin, my poor delusional friend. May your grave be urinated upon by Iggy Pop.

Jokes aside, is it almost unanimous that everyone scoffs and makes fun of Walter's musical ideas, because they think it is a complete crock?
 
Walter ? Is that Walter Becker ? Great musician !


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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 12:42
One thing that irritates me about prog is how bands are complex for the sake of being complex. Like Atheist, or Spastic Ink. Why on earth would anyone wanna listen to a song that interchanges between 139/256, 666/512 and π/4?

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 12:59
Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

One thing that irritates me about prog is how bands are complex for the sake of being complex. Like Atheist, or Spastic Ink. Why on earth would anyone wanna listen to a song that interchanges between 139/256, 666/512 and π/4?

seizure nirvana, i think


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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 13:00
Then you're on a Prog Site because???
LOL At what I HOPE is a beautifully sarcastic post.
To be fair you actually make decent points.


Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

One thing that irritates me about prog is how bands are complex for the sake of being complex. Like Atheist, or Spastic Ink. Why on earth would anyone wanna listen to a song that interchanges between 139/256, 666/512 and π/4?


^ That being one. I DO think some bands over do it, for the sake of being complex. Though a song inπ/4 would be sweet!  
Many prog bands you DO have to force yourself to listen to... it can be, (as well as its fans) very pretentious, and im sure there are some bands out there with no musical talent that go for avant-grade/experimental.

I love prog!


Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 13:05
Why are so many people, while trying to express how some time measure complex can be, using the expression π/4? Honestly, I'll try to program some drum machine in that measure and to make a song!


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 13:07
counting out an irrational number of beats doesn't seem like a good proposition to me. 


Posted By: mr.cub
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 13:23
Originally posted by moreitsythanyou moreitsythanyou wrote:

 
Pretty sure that sums it up LOL


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 13:24
12/4 + 13/4 is a good enough approximation for most circular ears.

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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 13:24
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

counting out an irrational number of beats doesn't seem like a good proposition to me. 
 
What can be more prog?LOLLOL
 
Approximations would do fine...101/128...unless one wants to mess with septuplets grouped in 22!Wink
 
 


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 13:29
Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

counting out an irrational number of beats doesn't seem like a good proposition to me. 
 
What can be more prog?LOLLOL
 


Playing in 7/8 +9/8i time.  Big smile


Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 13:34
Propellerhead's Reason contains rhythm machine(s) precise to a degree of 1/100 BPM.
Programming two of them, one in 180 BPM, another one in 141,372 BPM would be awesome!!
 
 
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

counting out an irrational number of beats doesn't seem like a good proposition to me. 
 
What can be more prog?LOLLOL
 


Playing in 7/8 +9/8i time.  Big smile
 
LOLClap
 
You need quadrophonic equipment for that.LOL
 
 
 


Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 13:38
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

counting out an irrational number of beats doesn't seem like a good proposition to me. 


Shocked  BLASPHEMY!


Originally posted by clarke2001

Originally posted by Padraic

counting out an irrational number of beats doesn't seem like a good proposition to me. 
 
What can be more prog?LOLLOL
 


Playing in 7/8 +9/8i time.  Big smile

^ Now THAT is truly progressive thinking!



Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 16:16
Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

Why are so many people, while trying to express how some time measure complex can be, using the expression π/4? Honestly, I'll try to program some drum machine in that measure and to make a song!


I think your drum machine would explode. I once put the metronome on Adobe Audition in -1.5/8 sig and my computer crashed.


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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 20:34
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

counting out an irrational number of beats doesn't seem like a good proposition to me. 
 
What can be more prog?LOLLOL
 


Playing in 7/8 +9/8i time.  Big smile
 
No, no, you gotta start out simple.  Start with the primes.  http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=909 - http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=909
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 20:37
Yeah, my music sux.  I'm just going to have to listen to crap or give up music all together.  Yet those time signatures are really intriguing...

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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: May 27 2009 at 03:27
What about 0/1, or 1/0? I always did want to try a hand at 4>3/7a + X^2/666


Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: May 27 2009 at 03:50

^I wrote a song in 0/1 time. It was kind of short though, and my friends didn't like it.

I've tried 1/0 time, but I just can't get a good groove on it.


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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: May 27 2009 at 04:01
You probably aren't re-detuning your slide whistle for drop minor chromatic key of Q.


Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: May 27 2009 at 04:21
I was composing in penguinian mode if you must know, but I tried tetuning the slide. Perhaps the coals aren't getting hot enough?

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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: May 27 2009 at 04:31
I'd say not. I use duck testicle grease for my gilded slide, though. When playing those z flat scale rubs, It lubricates fantastically.



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