New FREE maudlin of the Well
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Topic: New FREE maudlin of the Well
Posted By: gregbaliset
Subject: New FREE maudlin of the Well
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 06:33
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And after you download it for free, maybe consider checking out Baliset at http://www.thesixtyone.com/gregbaliset - www.thesixtyone.com/gregbaliset and if you like what you hear our album is available digitally at http://www.baliset.net - www.baliset.net for $7.99
Two albums for $7.99
Loads of great music and supporting true independent music.
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Subject: NEW MOTW: IT'S OUT!!!! May 14, 2009: IT'S FINALLY HERE! Titled "Part the Second," maudlin of the Well's new album, consisting of material both old and new, has been officially released for free. You can get it in FLAC, WAV, and V0 MP3 here: http://www.maudlinofthewell.net/ - http://www.maudlinofthewell.net/ Also, you can be a cool dude and digg it here: http://digg.com/music/maudlin_of_the_Well_release_free_fan_funded_album - http://digg.com/music/maudlin_of_the...n_funded_album |
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Posted By: rushaholic
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 06:38
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Been waiting on this for a long time. Thanks for the news - downloading it now. |
Posted By: rushaholic
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 06:40
| BTW - was listening to the new Baliset album last night - any idea when it will be available on CD? |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 06:45
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FREE! FREE! HOLY sh*t IT'S FREE. And goddamn Greg, come to this place more often. What's your username at Ultimatemetal.com? I just signed up there recently too. ------------- 
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Posted By: gregbaliset
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 06:48
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Well all proceeds from our digital sales and any gigs we get is going towards the cd production. We have a cozy $200 saved thus far with a bit more money coming in from recent digital sales soon. so we have a long way to go. when my personal finances get freed up a bit i will most likely contribute more of my own money but that has been tight as of late.
so the answer to yuor question is...as soon as humanly possible. =)
I am hoping for Fall 2009 to have them ready but if things get more successful over the summer it could be earlier.
so i encourage people to buy the Baliset download because not only does it help us print up the cds but you will get the full price of the download ($8) deducted from the cost of the cd once it is released.
I feel it is a good deal
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 06:51
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Cool, you can pay via Paypal, I was worried somehow you couldn't:P Given this, I may as well purchase it. -------------
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Posted By: gregbaliset
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 06:51
i'll try. i tend to stay up late at night doing Baliset promo work when I get home from my actual money-making job so I will try to post more often but I make no guarantees. =)
my username at UM is baliset but i also am not super active there.
but the best way to contact me is [email protected]
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Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:Posted By: gregbaliset
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 06:53
=)
admittedly, i feel a little bad riding the motW coattails to further my post motW/KD career but you have to start somewhere right?
ps. Kayo Dot will be touring with Secret Chiefs 3 later this month so you should all go see them when they come to your town.
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 06:55
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Yeah, damn, I forgot how busy you were. Working 20 hours a week and only having one guitar student right now gives me way too much free time on my hands, haha. Probably an indication I should get off my ass and make some albums too since I've got so much time. I figure you'd probably get a bit annoyed if people just emailed you all the time though, hence asking about the username at UM. -------------
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 06:58
Heh, I'm not complaining. All the motW output I've heard (which isn't counting this latest) so far has been excellent anyway, so whether you feel you've been "riding the coattails" or not, I frankly couldn't give a sh*t as long as the music kicks some f**king ass  Not really familar with the Secret Cheifs to be honest. I live for the day you guys tour Australia when I actually have money, but hell, I wonder if your fanbase down here is even big enough for you guys to break even, let alone make money, on an Aussie tour. -------------
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Posted By: gregbaliset
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 07:04
well to be fair i always look forward to checking the gmail inbox when i get home at night and i sill fly under most people's radar and its never very full so anyone can feel free to e-mail me.
if there is anything i have noticed over the years in terms of building up a grass roots music career its that you have to make yourself available to potential fans.
i don't live like a secluded artist and am actually quite gregarious so it is the part of my Baliset work that i enjoy most (aside from writing and recording, etc.)
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Posted By: gregbaliset
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 07:05
just so you know i am actually not in kayo dot anymore but i would imagine they will make it to australia at some point.
they are getting bigger every year. =)
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 07:09
Ah, that's awesome. Well I'll certainly drop you an email sometime if you can't get to here or UM regularly to comment on some stuff now and then (music related of course, unless you'd like me to comment on your hair brush or something  ), ask some questions too.-------------
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 07:11
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Well, I'm certainly really hopeful for Kayo Dot, or motW to tour here down in Melbourne one day (I'm not actually Ukrainian, haha, sometimes I wish I was so I could go to Chernobyl cos I'm obsessed with thatt place:P) I guess I'm off for now. It was awesome seeing you around again (we spoke before, albeit I changed my username since the last time you were here), cheers. -------------
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Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 11:43
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what a great news, new Maudlin album, downloading right now
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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 12:14
Excellent, I've been waiting for this for quite some time now!  ------------- 
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Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 12:30
my download failed  and again , my net sucks http://www.freesmileys.org"> damn
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 13:35
fckin sht, I'm downloading what's supposed to be my Top 2009 Album for free right now!!!11 Amazing
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 14:07
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Me is porr. Me liks free. Me will hear a band me has nt heard before\ ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 14:21
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Love your music! Ugghh, it's like some crazy dream come true! I can barely contain myself! ------------- 
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Posted By: rushaholic
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 14:25
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On my second time listening to it today. Nice job guys. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 15:03
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Incredible album so far! -------------  |
Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 15:16
My neighbors are listening to it too 
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Posted By: Madklikor
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 17:21
It's amazing. I've got nothing more to say.  |
Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 17:50
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As much of a Kayo dot / Maudlin / everything related fan as i am (havent disliked a single project from this pool of musicians) i am very surprised i havent heard of Baliset sooner. Im liking it a LOT so far, will download and pay or donate to both you guys as soon as i pay my bills and see what ive got left to throw around. NIce work! thanks for the heads up. NEW MAUdLIN!!! YAAAAHHH! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/KeiserWillhelm" rel="nofollow - What im listening to |
Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 17:51
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It may be too early to tell, but I think this will be my favorite album of 2009! and will likely become an all-time favorite! motw ftw! I will check out the Baliset later... been meaning to for a while now.... ------------- http://www.amazon.com/gp/shops/storefront/index.html?ie=UTF8&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sellerID=AP |
Posted By: moe_blunts
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 19:22
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good stuff
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/moe_blunts/?chartstyle=minimalDarkRecent"> 
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Posted By: Dominic
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 19:47
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Wow! Thanks for the update Greg. I actually just finished dling; i'm curious, am i the only one having trouble getting the FLAC files to work? I'm sure that i have decent codecs.
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Posted By: moe_blunts
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 20:46
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Download Foobar
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Posted By: Doomcifer
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 21:18
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AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
------------- Greater is the man who conquers himself, than he who conquers a hundred times a hundred on the battlefield. |
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 21:41
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Grr, the first and last tracks of the album aren't working too well on my computer. It says the filenames are too long. ------------- 
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Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 21:50
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wow. just... wow. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/KeiserWillhelm" rel="nofollow - What im listening to |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 22:20
Same here. Greg, do you know if there is any way to condense the track names, at least for the mp3 files, my dling thing says the title cant have more than 250 characters.
Anyways, I've only listened to it once so far, and here is what I think. OH MY GODDDDDDDDD! It's so serene, and euphoric, but at the same time, structured, and more straight forward than anything Kayo Dot has done. I wont lie, I was a little saddened with the lack of metal, but this may just turn out to be a masterpiece! -------------
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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 22:25
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^Haha, and all the post-rock bands thought the only danger in having ridiculously long names for things was that it annoyed the fans.
Now nobody can even listen to tracks with long names, haha. -------------
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Posted By: Dominic
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 00:20
 I'm feeling the same over here; it's crazy to think that i only found out about this project a couple months ago, and now i sit listening to such mesmerizing compositions... amazing. -------------
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Posted By: gregbaliset
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 00:20
i'll forward on the concerns with the filenames to our tech guy
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 01:21
This thread needs a headbanger smiley to certify its awesomeness THIS THREAD IS DEEMED TRUE BIATCHES Edited for correct possessive of it is. -------------
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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 01:36
| I second that. |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 01:39
God damn it Harry, ITS! THE POSSESSIVE OF IT IS ITS! DON'T YOU HAVE GRAMMAR DOWN UNDER?
I've only heard part of this, but it sounds good. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 01:46
sh*t, I typed it's again Apologies my good sir Henry. -------------
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 02:57
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Alright, just listening to this now, and what can I say? I approve of it. -------------
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Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 03:00
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*downloads album* *has several orgasms* ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Avantgardian |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 07:28
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Just listened to the album, utterly amazing. Clover Garland Island and Laboratories of the Invisable World are real hilights for me so far. This new album makes for a good way to celebrate 10 years since my Fruit Psychobells... as well. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: gregbaliset
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 08:16
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has it been ten years?
wow i lost track of time
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Posted By: Madklikor
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 08:27
It think it's the whole path of the file which shouldn't have more than 250 caracters, which means all the directories+file name. So if you copy the directory of the album inside a directory that has less characters (like C:\music or something) it should work. But don't take my word for it! |
Posted By: rushaholic
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 11:59
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^^ Had similar problems opening the zip. Use winrar to open files - worked for me. |
Posted By: the_binkster
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 12:01
| I used winRAR's rename function to shorten them before extracting them to my music folder (which has an outrageously long name). |
Posted By: gregbaliset
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 12:14
| I love the song titles but i will admit that when i first read them a week or so ago my first thought was "Bal-Sagoth much?" |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 12:17
| Downloaded this just today, and I think it's excellent. |
Posted By: Dominic
Date Posted: May 16 2009 at 00:48
I can't get over how great it is... surely a dream come true -------------
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 16 2009 at 03:21
Yeah, and it still sounds more "modern" than a good number of albums I've heard released since, which is impressive on its own. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 16 2009 at 10:50
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Excellent stuff. However, more metal moments would have been nice. I guess though that you've left that behind now. I just was expecting some death growls, more heaviness and some female vocals as well. -------------   
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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: May 16 2009 at 16:09
| Yes, I don't think it is up to Bath or LYBM, but still it is a great release. |
Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: May 16 2009 at 20:03
| Part the Second is very pleasent listen to me, smooth .. gentle .. no heavyness , nice crafted melodies .. excellent album |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: May 16 2009 at 23:45
Bolded for emphasis.
I love how melodic it is! They replaced the metal with the melody. -------------
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 21 2009 at 06:45
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I've had no trouble with it thus far
DL'd it yesterday and opened into iTunes today. Honestly, thanks a ton for this post! I just discovered a band which is both brilliant and deserving of my love and attention. If this album is anything to go off, I may end up holding Maudlin Of The Well And/Or Kayo Dot in my high esteems, up there with bands like YES and Marillion. Great stuff, a challenge to begin with, but insanely enjoyable otherwise. Thankyou whoever you are for this post! ------------- 
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: May 21 2009 at 17:41
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Maudlin of the Well is excellent,and Toby Driver is an avant garde genius.If you are just discovering them I can't recommend their albums Bath and Leaving Your Body Map highly enough. ------------- |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 22 2009 at 03:37
I think I may have to order those two. I've just listened to "Part The Second" for the SIXTH time in 3 days, (Even during school ) and it's so... Unique in a massively enjoyable kind of way.
It's pulled me away from Marillion: Afraid Of Sunlight, which I received from my mail order on the same day I downloaded this album. Their honestly amazing, one of the best bands I think I've ever heard Thankyou for posting this! -------------
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Posted By: rushaholic
Date Posted: May 22 2009 at 06:42
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^^ Good luck finding the those two albums. You can always check the eBay and Gemm sites though. |
Posted By: Doomcifer
Date Posted: May 24 2009 at 19:47
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OK...im finally sold. It just wasnt what i was expecting for some reason after being such a huge fan of their other releases since inception.
------------- Greater is the man who conquers himself, than he who conquers a hundred times a hundred on the battlefield. |
Posted By: crimson87
Date Posted: May 24 2009 at 22:14
| I just downloaded this record a couple of days ago and it was really good. |
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: May 25 2009 at 02:00
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I'm still having problems getting the first and last tracks in the library. Is there any chance this problem can be fixed? I've heard nothing but positives from everyone who has listened to it, so I really want to listen to the whole thing. -------------
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Posted By: brainerd
Date Posted: May 25 2009 at 18:25
| I admit I listened to it 'properly' for the first time the other day (i.e. not while reading or on the internet) and I enjo it a lot more than I did, i mean i liked it but not as much as I thought I would. It took a few listens to fully sink in and now I can't stop listening to it. I think if they had shoehorned in more 'metal' bits I don't think the album would have flowed as well as it does |
Posted By: pianoman
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 20:20
| This is my new favorite album. Hands down. |
Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 20:32
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i love this one. man the minute toby driver is involved withanything that disappoints me im going to quit listening to music. The boys from maudlin of the well just rock and have released ANOTHER amazing album. on track for album of the year (prog wise) ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/KeiserWillhelm" rel="nofollow - What im listening to |
Posted By: pianoman
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 20:41
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This year in general so far is
But thats for another thread. |
Posted By: AlexUC
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 22:57
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Oh god, MotW revived my interest in metal, again, again and again. Though you can't say this is a fully metallic album, it's a completely awesome release, full of unexpected passages, delicate experimentation and clear composition. IMO, this album is a landmark in the metal fields, the perfect fusion between RIO, Post Rock/Metal and Avant prog. ------------- This is not my beautiful house... |
Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: May 27 2009 at 03:11
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I hate metal so I'm glad the album came out like it did! 90% of the classical motW elements were there, and that's what I was worried about the most. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Avantgardian |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 27 2009 at 05:35
As I said in my review, I can only see two albums coming out this year that can beat it, and one of them is Kayo Dot! ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: May 27 2009 at 15:30
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Finally got all the tracks in my library. Sweet album, I can definetely see why people love it so much.
At this rate, Part The Second is going to be above SEBTP, CTTE, and TAAB on the top 100 chart. -------------
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: May 27 2009 at 16:00
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All I can say is thank you, Greg and the whole band.
Now can you make those other albums at least available for purchase???
Unbelievable album. Best of the year so far and it's been a good year. ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: May 27 2009 at 17:28
| I agree with you, wholeheartedly. You know, your current listening list kicks more asses than I can easily describe. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 28 2009 at 05:10
I think it will need another 800 reviews first! ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: progadelic
Date Posted: June 02 2009 at 19:56
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First listen at this very moment and................LOVE AT FIRST LISTEN!!!
maudlin of the Well, unique and different as always!!! ............on its way to top 2009 for sure! |
Posted By: Agnostic21
Date Posted: June 07 2009 at 14:10
Big Disappointment  To many post-rock ... to less avant-garde.
I love their previous albums. And I am probably one of few persons
which most likes their first album ( "My Fruit Psychobells... A Seed
Combustible"). |
Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: June 07 2009 at 14:18
Damn son! I love that first album.... I have been listening to them since that first one came out..... and I LOVE the new one! Change is a good thing.... It's still the same backbone, but with different skin. ------------- http://www.amazon.com/gp/shops/storefront/index.html?ie=UTF8&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sellerID=AP |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 07 2009 at 14:18
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#1 right now on the post-metal chart...not sure if I agree, but it is a damn fine album. Worth every penny.
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Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: June 07 2009 at 14:19
^ did you donate? I did.  ------------- http://www.amazon.com/gp/shops/storefront/index.html?ie=UTF8&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sellerID=AP |
Posted By: OzzProg
Date Posted: June 07 2009 at 14:21
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Well its certain that the rating will drop a bit (most likely a substantial amount), but then again... it is an amazing album, and it seems the vast majority who have listened to it think it is a masterpiece! I never heard about maudlin of the Well until i noticed the "FREE ALBUM" thread... I regret not getting into their previous stuff earlier. Unfortunately, I can't find any other albums from them (out of print?) -------------  |
Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: June 07 2009 at 14:24
 one day though they may reprint the discs.... ------------- http://www.amazon.com/gp/shops/storefront/index.html?ie=UTF8&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sellerID=AP |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 07 2009 at 14:38
No. And I don't plan on it. However, maudlin of the Well's discography got pretty high up on my list of albums to acquire. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: June 07 2009 at 15:19
not that you have to necessarily justify this to me, but what is your reasoning behind NOT donating? (especially if you hope to see their other releases to ever get reissued) ------------- http://www.amazon.com/gp/shops/storefront/index.html?ie=UTF8&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sellerID=AP |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 07 2009 at 15:33
I'm poor. I limit myself to a few acquisitions a month. That said, I have means of (legally) obtaining albums that are not readily available (I just have to patient sometimes). I think it's a bit silly to release a free album without having the other albums readily available for purchase. It's a pointless promotion. If I had funds, I would readily scoop up the other three. In fact, I just lost an Ebay bid at the last minute for one of theirs. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 07 2009 at 15:36
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I should add that I was unaware that maudlin of the Well was out of print for the most part (hence the dearth of reviews for the first album). But as I said, I would love to have their work. It's too bad they (or the record company or whomever) does not make that available. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: June 07 2009 at 15:50
My thoughts exactly. I really want their others, too. ------------- 
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 07 2009 at 15:55
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Glad somebody sees that, Liquid. Anyway, for what its worth, I just ordered this.  Collaborator pick for 2006. So at least Mr. Driver will be pocketing something I suppose. And I love violin. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: June 07 2009 at 17:46
Oh that's just PRICELESS that you would bid on their other material (at most likely exorbitant prices) but you will not pay the artist for an album that they worked just as hard on! Don't you see the hypocrisy and irony in that? It's not silly to release a free album without the others available. Why? because the other albums release is controlled by their previous record label, whereas the latest free album is an endeavor that was entirely free from any record label distribution or licensing or legal entanglements. We should be glad that a certain amount of people initially donated money to even allow the band to record and write the material. Or were you unaware of that taking place? Yeah. that's how it worked. A bunch of fans- like yours truly- donated money so that we could hear another motw album. Is it too much to ask to donate even $5 or $1 to their cause (if you are willing to shell out crazy money for their other albums, why not this? That makes NO f**kING SENSE AT ALL.) If you like it, why not pay a nominal fee for it? You can't necessarily go into a restaurant and just eat something and then walk out without paying, because you claim it wasn't as good as other restaurants.... or better yet, if they are giving away free samples and you like them (but there is a limit on the other forms of snacks by the same company), why wouldn't you pay for more, if you are willing to pay for the other snacks? I'm sorry dude, but the "I am poor" argument is not gonna work in this case, you proved that with your admittance to bidding on their other material. ------------- http://www.amazon.com/gp/shops/storefront/index.html?ie=UTF8&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sellerID=AP |
Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: June 07 2009 at 17:52
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That's not what he said. He said he buys a few things a month. Who wants to shell out money to help produce something that they really can't say anything about, don't know anything about? Instead, he spent the money on other music, music he knew he wanted. And then following the release of Part the Second, he decided to look into more of their stuff, thus going to eBay. How is that so very evil?
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 07 2009 at 18:04
Are you at least five years old? Don't be stupid. If a band makes an album free, I take it- no regrets. I sell mine. I've sold about 20. No regrets. And no, I cannot afford to pay exorbitant prices. Nor would I. If the other albums are controlled by another record label and I cannot purchase them, guess what? TOO BAD. I can't change that. I would buy them at full price if I could. maudlin of the Well must be poor businesspeople. Music is a business. If this free album didn't come out, then I would never know about them and would have not cared about them. Get real. I NEVER donate money to any artist. If they put it out there for free, it's promotional. This band has my attention. Unfortunately, they don't have the goods. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: June 07 2009 at 18:08
he might as well just download the other albums if that's how it's going to play out. He's poor, let him acquire music like every other poor person....  No, seriously, I just don't get why he wouldn't pay to support the band. buying an album off of ebay just supports some schmuck who is putting too high of a price on it..... That's all I was curious about. He seems rather against that notion for some reason. Like I said, you wouldn't have this album without patronage of other fans (who understand the hardships of writing/producing/recording an album). Oh well. I am not gonna convince you guys to have integrity to do such a thing.... enjoy the album either way, they worked hard on it. And it rules! On that we can agree? ------------- http://www.amazon.com/gp/shops/storefront/index.html?ie=UTF8&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sellerID=AP |
Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: June 07 2009 at 18:11
So, how's the business side of your music workin' for ya? I bet nobody donates to you either.... oh and the mudslinging with regards to ageism, is just juvenile in itself. ------------- http://www.amazon.com/gp/shops/storefront/index.html?ie=UTF8&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sellerID=AP |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 07 2009 at 18:18
I have given away more albums than I have sold. That doesn't bother me. Maybe you'll win one here. mudslinging with regard to ageism? I don't know what you mean. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 07 2009 at 18:19
It's a fact of the music business. When I can, I try to buy albums new. But used stores are legal, and so is Ebay, so I use it. I think it's stupid to put out a free album, but not have anything available for purchase. I would have bought all three of the other albums. Alas, they are not there. I can't help that. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: June 07 2009 at 18:30
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I get it. You can't be asked to pay up front for someone you initially know nothing about. I guess I (incorrectly) assumed that you knew about them. good luck finding their material. I know I cherish my discs of theirs. to my knowledge, they did not have a record deal to put out the new album.... and with the way much of the music industry is going, many people are happy to get downloads from the band.... I do not personally find anything wrong with downloading an album if it is out of print and impossible to find.... but that's me... otherwise, I have supported them all the way.... but then again, I have been there at the right time I suppose! (btw, the ageism statement was in regards to you saying I was at least five.... which is pretty lame and tired if you ask me..... ) ------------- http://www.amazon.com/gp/shops/storefront/index.html?ie=UTF8&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sellerID=AP |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: June 07 2009 at 18:47
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I would like to point out, yet again, that maudlin of the Well's first album is NOT out of print yet but available for $17 off of Kayo Dots web page. I wouldnt imagine that there's too many of them left since they'e been available for 2 years and it wasnt a huge run. I remember Driver stating when he announced the recording of Part the Second that Dark Symphonies (motW record label) were completely uninterested in the band (probably because they are officially defunct), both its new album and re-relasing the old ones, which is why PtS is a fan funded, self released, free to download album and that you still cant get Bath/Leaving Your Body Map brand new. And no, I havnt donated yet, but I intend to come the summer when I should have a bit more money. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: June 07 2009 at 18:53
very helpful info. And that's cool that you plan to donate. but I understand the lack of funds issue..... ------------- http://www.amazon.com/gp/shops/storefront/index.html?ie=UTF8&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sellerID=AP |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 07 2009 at 18:58
I merely wanted to show that I now know of (and have heard) a great band I had not heard of before. I would buy all their albums, but if I can't, I can't. The best I can do is write my reviews...for now. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: gregbaliset
Date Posted: June 07 2009 at 18:58
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At this juncture I felt it was important for me to interject for a second. However, my purpose is not to take any kind of moral or ethic stance on the debate at hand as it is kind of futile. BUT I did want to make a few facts very clear so as to shed some light on the intentions at hand:
While it is true that the idea of giving away something for free without having the goods to sell otherwise seems a bit weird, it is probably good to remind everyone that maudlin of the Well as a band does not exist anymore. This album was spawned from the idea of cleaning out the closet and as it was completely fan funded we could not in good faith charge for it. I do realize that it is unfortunate to not have our other albums for sale but it is a situation we hope to remedy soon but I do not want to disclose information to that regard until I know for sure how that will proceed. The important thing to remember is that regardless of not having other motW merchandise available to purchase, I can assure you that any and all donations monies we received were used for the express purpose of paying for recording costs and travel expenses and left over donations are being divied up to our members who did take substantial time off from work (in some cases a month) to give their time free of charge to the creation of the album. So while it is not necessary to donate, any we receive does in fact support the band members with our current musical projects(Kayo Dot, Baliset, etc.), even though motW itself is defunct. |
Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: June 07 2009 at 19:10
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Ah, cool post. I, for one, will buy anything that is available to buy. If Part the Second had a physical release, I would be all over it. And I'm holding off on downloading any of maudlin's other albums, preferring to buy them just as soon as they are fiscally viable. So, Greg, keep us posted on any chances to buy reprints or anything! -------------
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Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: June 07 2009 at 20:08
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Thanks Greg, for shedding light on what was possibly confused.
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