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Topic: ProgRock Top 40 in Europe but not U.S.?
Posted By: marktheshark
Subject: ProgRock Top 40 in Europe but not U.S.?
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 15:40
There's been some discussion on how commercial prog was in Europe/UK and not here in the U.S. I myself can remember only ELP occasionally cracking the top 100 in singles (Lucky Man, From The Beginning etc.) here. Yes did only a handful of singles starting with Soon The Light off Relayer and barely even hitting the charts. King Crimson, to the best of my knowledge never had a single (80s maybe). But from what I've been hearing prog bands were all over the charts in Europe. You imputs please.



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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 15:47
Pink Floyd was in the top 10 on both sides of the Pond.

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Posted By: muffley_mirkin
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 15:48
Marillion number 2 (UK) with Kayleigh. Not exactly their finest prog hour i
admit.


Posted By: marktheshark
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 15:56
Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

Pink Floyd was in the top 10 on both sides of the Pond.


True. Floyd was very big here too. But I don't recall a single from them 'til Wall.


Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 15:58
Money from Dark Side was in the top 10

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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 16:00

The UK singles chart wasn't very receptive to prog bands either, only a handful of prog bands found singles success here. Mainland Europe has tended to be more appreciative.

In the 1970's, I always felt the US singles and album charts reflected much better taste than the UK charts.



Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 16:16

I'm movin' to Europe

O well, one can hope that someday, before i die, prog is accepted(on a popular level) here in the States.



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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 16:20

Rush's "New World Man" reached #21 in the Billboard Singles Chart (USA)

In the UK,"The Spirit Of Radio" reached #13 in the Top 40 Singles chart and "Tom Sawyer" #25.

Marillion managed top 10 hits in Uk with Kayleigh and Lavender.



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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 16:28

I only remember Yes's Owner Of A Lonely Hearts, Marillion's Kayleigh, Lavender and Incommunicado was top 40 also I believe, other than that Radiohead and Queen.

Not much in the Netherlands, at least what I recall (I never listen to Radio, so I wouldn't know what where hits the last 15 years).



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Posted By: marktheshark
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 16:36
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:



The UK singles chart wasn't very receptive to prog bands either, only a handful of prog bands found singles success here. Mainland Europe has tended to be more appreciative.


In the 1970's, I always felt the US singles and album charts reflected much better taste than the UK charts.



You obviously never heard the Bee Gees, KC (not King Crimson)and the Sunshine Band or Barry Manilou.


Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 16:40
Just listen to some classic rock radio and the few prog songs they play tend to be the ones that were "hits" in their day, at least on album-oriented radio, if not top 40.

Like:

Pink Floyd - Money
Pink Floyd - Another Brick In The Wall Part 2
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
Yes - Roundabout
Yes - I've Seen All Good People
ELP - Lucky Man
ELP - Still...You Turn Me On
ELP - From The Beginning
ELP - Karn Evil 9 (edited)
Kansas - Point Of Know Return
Kansas - Carry On Wayward Son
Kansas - Dust In The Wind
Genesis - I Know What I Like
Rush - a number of songs including the ones Reed mentioned, and also "Red Barchetta", "Limelight", "Free Will", "Closer To The Heart" - OK, so it's obvious Rush gets more radio play (or at least more diverse radio play) than the other classic proggers, probably due to their proliferation of excellent 4-minute songs.

That's about all I ever hear on the radio from our favorite genre.


Posted By: marktheshark
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 16:42
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Rush's "New World Man" reached #21 in the Billboard Singles Chart (USA)


In the UK,"The Spirit Of Radio" reached #13 in the Top 40 Singles chart and "Tom Sawyer" #25.


Marillion managed top 10 hits in Uk with Kayleigh and Lavender.



Tom Sawyer actually hit #2 I think here in the states. Probably the highest charting prog cut along with Yes's Owner.


Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 16:47
Originally posted by marktheshark marktheshark wrote:

Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Rush's "New World Man" reached #21 in the Billboard Singles Chart (USA)


In the UK,"The Spirit Of Radio" reached #13 in the Top 40 Singles chart and "Tom Sawyer" #25.


Marillion managed top 10 hits in Uk with Kayleigh and Lavender.



Tom Sawyer actually hit #2 I think here in the states. Probably the highest charting prog cut along with Yes's Owner.

Sorry to disagree but "Tom Sawyer" did not chart in the US Top 40 Singles chart,(#44 only)however it reached #8 in the Mainstream Rock Chart that was published by Billboard at that time.
What you refer to may be a College Rock Chart which Rush always did well in until Indie took over in the Mid 80's



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Posted By: skidadx3
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 16:50

Southern Cal Report:

I seem to remember "Roundabout" being pretty popular in the mainstream audience, although I never listened to Top 40, even then, so I don't know where it placed on the charts.  The station I listened to even played full length "Supper's Ready", so my view was skewed.

Looking back, I never really thought of Pink Floyd tieing into the progressive niche until much later, probably *because* of the popularity of Dark Side.../Wish...!



Posted By: marktheshark
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 17:02
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Originally posted by marktheshark marktheshark wrote:

Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:


Rush's "New World Man" reached #21 in the Billboard Singles Chart (USA)


In the UK,"The Spirit Of Radio" reached #13 in the Top 40 Singles chart and "Tom Sawyer" #25.


Marillion managed top 10 hits in Uk with Kayleigh and Lavender.


Tom Sawyer actually hit #2 I think here in the states. Probably the highest charting prog cut along with Yes's Owner.


Sorry to disagree but "Tom Sawyer" did not chart in the US Top 40 Singles chart,(#44 only)however it reached #8 in the Mainstream Rock Chart that was published by Billboard at that time.What you refer to may be a College Rock Chart which Rush always did well in until Indie took over in the Mid 80's



I only remember Casey Kasem's TV show "American Top Ten" where he counts down the top 10 singles from #10 to #1 and shows the video of each song. And Tom Sawyer was one of them pretty far up the ladder. Now I don't know what chart he was using, whether Billboard, Rolling Stone or whatever.


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 17:03

Fanfare for the common man reached #2 in Uk and Yes wonderous stories #7 UK

 



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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 17:05
Position Artist Title Date Details
29 Jethro Tull Love Story Jan 1969  
3 Jethro Tull Living In The Past May 1969  
7 Jethro Tull Sweet Dream Nov 1969  
4 Jethro Tull Teacher / The Witches Promise Jan 1970  
11 Jethro Tull Life Is A Long Song Sep 1971  
28 Jethro Tull Ring Out The Solstice Bells (EP) Dec 1976  
32 Jethro Tull Living In The (Slightly More Recent) Past May 1993  
 


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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 17:06

 

You know who cares what charted.  Those are industry charts and can reflect anything they want it too. 



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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 17:06
Position Artist Title Date Details
21 Genesis I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe) Apr 1974  
14 Genesis Spot The Pigeon EP May 1977  


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 17:08
Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

 

You know who cares what charted.  Those are industry charts and can reflect anything they want it too. 

They reflect sales in the Uk. Simple really.



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Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 17:09
Doh, forgot all about Tull. Yeah, they had quite a few "hits" as well.


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 17:10
Sorry

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