ProgRock Top 40 in Europe but not U.S.?
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Topic: ProgRock Top 40 in Europe but not U.S.?
Posted By: marktheshark
Subject: ProgRock Top 40 in Europe but not U.S.?
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 15:40
There's been some discussion on how commercial prog was in Europe/UK and not here in the U.S. I myself can remember only ELP occasionally cracking the top 100 in singles (Lucky Man, From The Beginning etc.) here. Yes did only a handful of singles starting with Soon The Light off Relayer and barely even hitting the charts. King Crimson, to the best of my knowledge never had a single (80s maybe). But from what I've been hearing prog bands were all over the charts in Europe. You imputs please.
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 15:47
Pink Floyd was in the top 10 on both sides of the Pond.
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Posted By: muffley_mirkin
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 15:48
Marillion number 2 (UK) with Kayleigh. Not exactly their finest prog hour i
admit.
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Posted By: marktheshark
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 15:56
threefates wrote:
Pink Floyd was in the top 10 on both sides of the Pond. |
True. Floyd was very big here too. But I don't recall a single from them 'til Wall.
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 15:58
Money from Dark Side was in the top 10
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 16:00
The UK singles chart wasn't very receptive to prog bands either, only a handful of prog bands found singles success here. Mainland Europe has tended to be more appreciative.
In the 1970's, I always felt the US singles and album charts reflected much better taste than the UK charts.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 16:16
I'm movin' to Europe ![](smileys/smiley2.gif)
O well, one can hope that someday, before i die, prog is accepted(on a popular level) here in the States.
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 16:20
Rush's "New World Man" reached #21 in the Billboard Singles Chart (USA)
In the UK,"The Spirit Of Radio" reached #13 in the Top 40 Singles chart and "Tom Sawyer" #25.
Marillion managed top 10 hits in Uk with Kayleigh and Lavender.
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 16:28
I only remember Yes's Owner Of A Lonely Hearts, Marillion's Kayleigh, Lavender and Incommunicado was top 40 also I believe, other than that Radiohead and Queen.
Not much in the Netherlands, at least what I recall (I never listen to Radio, so I wouldn't know what where hits the last 15 years).
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Posted By: marktheshark
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 16:36
Easy Livin wrote:
The UK singles chart wasn't very receptive to prog bands either, only a handful of prog bands found singles success here. Mainland Europe has tended to be more appreciative.
In the 1970's, I always felt the US singles and album charts reflected much better taste than the UK charts. |
You obviously never heard the Bee Gees, KC (not King Crimson)and the Sunshine Band or Barry Manilou.
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Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 16:40
Just listen to some classic rock radio and the few prog songs they play tend to be the ones that were "hits" in their day, at least on album-oriented radio, if not top 40.
Like:
Pink Floyd - Money
Pink Floyd - Another Brick In The Wall Part 2
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
Yes - Roundabout
Yes - I've Seen All Good People
ELP - Lucky Man
ELP - Still...You Turn Me On
ELP - From The Beginning
ELP - Karn Evil 9 (edited)
Kansas - Point Of Know Return
Kansas - Carry On Wayward Son
Kansas - Dust In The Wind
Genesis - I Know What I Like
Rush - a number of songs including the ones Reed mentioned, and also "Red Barchetta", "Limelight", "Free Will", "Closer To The Heart" - OK, so it's obvious Rush gets more radio play (or at least more diverse radio play) than the other classic proggers, probably due to their proliferation of excellent 4-minute songs.
That's about all I ever hear on the radio from our favorite genre.
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Posted By: marktheshark
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 16:42
Reed Lover wrote:
Rush's "New World Man" reached #21 in the Billboard Singles Chart (USA)
In the UK,"The Spirit Of Radio" reached #13 in the Top 40 Singles chart and "Tom Sawyer" #25.
Marillion managed top 10 hits in Uk with Kayleigh and Lavender. |
Tom Sawyer actually hit #2 I think here in the states. Probably the highest charting prog cut along with Yes's Owner.
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 16:47
marktheshark wrote:
Reed Lover wrote:
Rush's "New World Man" reached #21 in the Billboard Singles Chart (USA)
In the UK,"The Spirit Of Radio" reached #13 in the Top 40 Singles chart and "Tom Sawyer" #25.
Marillion managed top 10 hits in Uk with Kayleigh and Lavender.
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Tom Sawyer actually hit #2 I think here in the states. Probably the highest charting prog cut along with Yes's Owner. |
Sorry to disagree but "Tom Sawyer" did not chart in the US Top 40 Singles chart,(#44 only)however it reached #8 in the Mainstream Rock Chart that was published by Billboard at that time. What you refer to may be a College Rock Chart which Rush always did well in until Indie took over in the Mid 80's
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Posted By: skidadx3
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 16:50
Southern Cal Report:
I seem to remember "Roundabout" being pretty popular in the mainstream audience, although I never listened to Top 40, even then, so I don't know where it placed on the charts. The station I listened to even played full length "Supper's Ready", so my view was skewed.
Looking back, I never really thought of Pink Floyd tieing into the progressive niche until much later, probably *because* of the popularity of Dark Side.../Wish...!
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Posted By: marktheshark
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 17:02
Reed Lover wrote:
marktheshark wrote:
Reed Lover wrote:
Rush's "New World Man" reached #21 in the Billboard Singles Chart (USA)
In the UK,"The Spirit Of Radio" reached #13 in the Top 40 Singles chart and "Tom Sawyer" #25.
Marillion managed top 10 hits in Uk with Kayleigh and Lavender.
| Tom Sawyer actually hit #2 I think here in the states. Probably the highest charting prog cut along with Yes's Owner. |
Sorry to disagree but "Tom Sawyer" did not chart in the US Top 40 Singles chart,(#44 only)however it reached #8 in the Mainstream Rock Chart that was published by Billboard at that time.What you refer to may be a College Rock Chart which Rush always did well in until Indie took over in the Mid 80's |
I only remember Casey Kasem's TV show "American Top Ten" where he counts down the top 10 singles from #10 to #1 and shows the video of each song. And Tom Sawyer was one of them pretty far up the ladder. Now I don't know what chart he was using, whether Billboard, Rolling Stone or whatever.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 17:03
Fanfare for the common man reached #2 in Uk and Yes wonderous stories #7 UK
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 17:05
Position |
Artist |
Title |
Date |
Details |
29 |
Jethro Tull |
Love Story |
Jan 1969 |
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3 |
Jethro Tull |
Living In The Past |
May 1969 |
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7 |
Jethro Tull |
Sweet Dream |
Nov 1969 |
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4 |
Jethro Tull |
Teacher / The Witches Promise |
Jan 1970 |
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11 |
Jethro Tull |
Life Is A Long Song |
Sep 1971 |
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28 |
Jethro Tull |
Ring Out The Solstice Bells (EP) |
Dec 1976 |
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32 |
Jethro Tull |
Living In The (Slightly More Recent) Past |
May 1993 |
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 17:06
You know who cares what charted. Those are industry charts and can reflect anything they want it too.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 17:06
Position |
Artist |
Title |
Date |
Details |
21 |
Genesis |
I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe) |
Apr 1974 |
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14 |
Genesis |
Spot The Pigeon EP |
May 1977 |
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 17:08
Garion81 wrote:
You know who cares what charted. Those are industry charts and can reflect anything they want it too.
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They reflect sales in the Uk. Simple really.
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Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 17:09
Doh, forgot all about Tull. Yeah, they had quite a few "hits" as well.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 02 2005 at 17:10
![](smileys/smiley36.gif) Sorry
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