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Topic: Illegal Activities
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Subject: Illegal Activities
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 04:47
If I may raise a serious question here at the risk of shocking everyone here who have read a few of my posts, I am a little cheesed off to see a certain new thread locked up, mainly because I didn't get the opportunity to make my own witty post but hey, rules are rules.
So a point for clarification, since we are a forum of many members from many countries, where is the line drawn for what can be discussed and what can't? As in: what country or countries get to set the legal standards by which the policy is enforced? To get to a specific example which got me thinking about the question, If all countries except for the USA were to make marijuana use legal, would it then be acceptable to discuss openly? If only the the US were to and no others, what then? What about other polarizing issues like Israel/Palestine?
I am of course referring to the Phelps thread. Feel free to substitute "file swapping, polygamy, speeding", etc. for marijuana. (Perhaps that I raise these questions is plenty good reason why I must never be promoted to admin status.)
From the Site Rules & Guidelines:
5. No Illegal activities.
Posts and threads promoting or facilitating file swapping, drug abuse,
or any other forum of illegal activity are not permitted. Any such
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This is one of those issues which polarise opinions, but the bottom
line is drug use is illegal in most places, & as such this thread
is now closed.
Just trying to stir up some crap,
Cheers. 
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 05:10
From what I know PA lives under Canadian Law, so I presume the rules were drawn in relation to the Canadian laws regarding illegal activities, propaganda, etc.
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 08:32
Well, at least we can discuss immoral activities, , and , for example.
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Posted By: omri
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 10:32
Good question.
I don't know the answer !
I think anything else than murder, rape and robbery (and the like) can be discussed here (talking about something is not the same as doing it IMO) and though I didn't use Marijuana for more than 20 years now I don't see anything wrong with talking about it.
my 2 cents.
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 11:20
In the meantime, there's always these:
http://www.cracked.com/article_17016_7-items-you-wont-believe-are-actually-legal.html - http://www.cracked.com/article_17016_7-items-you-wont-believe-are-actually-legal.html
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Posted By: Jozef
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 11:20
I didn't know it was against the law to TALK about these things now. 
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 11:43
I think in general terms this is making a mountain out of a molehill. While different countries may have variations in their laws, most of the basic things which are illegal are thus worldwide.
The admin team are not lawyers, we simply enforce our Rules and Guidelines pragmatically and with what we hope is good sense for the benefit of the site as a whole. I know we can count on our collaborators to publically support us in this.
There are plenty of other sites where illegal and dubious activities can be discussed. This is first and foremost a site dedicated to prog, and while we are happy to facilitate discussion of a wide range of other matters, we shall always err on the side of caution when it comes to the well being of the site.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 12:05
Sorry about that, is it OK to both support you guys on what you do and raise silly questions?
And what are these other sites where we can discuss illegal and dubious activities? Could you furnish us with some links. Sorry that would probably violate site policy. Note to self, do own research.
Obviously I have too much free time on my hands.
I do like the answer about having to adhere to Canadian legal standards as this is a Canadian originated site. I think we should all be happy that most if not all of us are not Iranian or Chinese citizens as I've heard they are truly subjected to ridiculous amounts of censorship.
Thanks also for Epignosis for that link to Cracked. Nearly made me spew my beverage out of my nose.
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 12:19
If memory serves me right, Our cherished public broadcaster's web news-site, the CBC (CBC.ca), has always been a prime source of articles on studies detailing the benefits of , and relative harmlessness of this substance. These articles are also open to comment by readers. And while the fascists, I mean Conservative party would love nothing better than to cut all public funding to this organization that enjoys an international reputation for unbiased reporting, most Canadians have vocally defended its' existence. Amen to discussion, boo to outright promotion. But where's the dividing line ? How many are killed by DUI drivers ?
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: May 20 2009 at 14:16
I just noticed this thread. I started a thread a while back entitled : Mig 29 Fulcrum vs Boeing F-18E/F Super Hornet a while back and it got "shot down immediately". 
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 20 2009 at 14:32
Which part, the Fulcrum or the Super Hornet? 
Crash and burn baby!
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 20 2009 at 14:38
Vibrationbaby wrote:
I just noticed this thread. I started a thread a while back entitled : Mig 29 Fulcrum vs Boeing F-18E/F Super Hornet a while back and it got "shot down immediately". 
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Did it? Can't imagine why - unless it fell in M@X's purge of inactive threads.
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Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: February 25 2010 at 17:05
Naked girl on the "Most beautiful girl in the world" thread... just to let you know... see yaa...!!!
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: February 25 2010 at 17:09
Hey, nudity =/= pornography or even obscenity. There are prog album covers which are more explicit than that
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: February 26 2010 at 15:51
Can I start a thread F-18 Super Hornet vs Naked Girl?
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Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: February 26 2010 at 17:04
you can start everything dealing with erotic military issues of course 
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Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: February 26 2010 at 22:55
OH! I love illegal activities.....oh...this isn't what I hoped for.
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Posted By: halabalushindigus
Date Posted: February 27 2010 at 11:58
Vibrationbaby wrote:
Can I start a thread F-18 Super Hornet vs Naked Girl? |  please max please 
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Posted By: halabalushindigus
Date Posted: February 27 2010 at 15:15
delete the bs about smoking meth. It's insane. I know it, you know it, the American people know it.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: February 27 2010 at 18:45
halabalushindigus wrote:
delete the bs about smoking meth. It's insane. I know it, you know it, the American people know it. |
were? link?
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Posted By: halabalushindigus
Date Posted: February 27 2010 at 18:53
Epignosis' post search Cracked.com and in that thread there was a written something from the people at Cracked.com that mentioned "occasionally smoking meth amphetamine" as a side-joke, like it was done by everybody. So I thought that was stupid of them. Sorry, Dean
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: February 27 2010 at 19:01
...I'm still not following you - what Epig search? - I can't and don't read every post in every thread
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: February 27 2010 at 19:10
My guess is he's referring to the article I linked to on the first page of this thread. It mentions meth in the introduction sarcastically.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 27 2010 at 23:40
If any individuals get a PM from a stranger who is interested in you and wants to get to know you better, absolutely do not contact as it's part of a scam.
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: March 14 2010 at 15:44
What a wonderful world ! In a way , its better to concentrate on musical matters as the past threads that have involved politics (a waste of waste), drugs (to each his own) and other inherently contraversial material has been way too unpleasant. When people ask my religion, my sexual preference or my political beliefs, I always answer "None of your business", especially to nosy customs officials like the one dingbat in Houston who asked me "Why do I live in Calgary?" What do you mean WHY? 
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Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: March 16 2010 at 16:06
Slartibartfast wrote:
If I may raise a serious question here at the risk of shocking everyone here who have read a few of my posts, I am a little cheesed off to see a certain new thread locked up, mainly because I didn't get the opportunity to make my own witty post but hey, rules are rules.
So a point for clarification, since we are a forum of many members from many countries, where is the line drawn for what can be discussed and what can't? As in: what country or countries get to set the legal standards by which the policy is enforced? To get to a specific example which got me thinking about the question, If all countries except for the USA were to make marijuana use legal, would it then be acceptable to discuss openly? If only the the US were to and no others, what then? What about other polarizing issues like Israel/Palestine?
I am of course referring to the Phelps thread. Feel free to substitute "file swapping, polygamy, speeding", etc. for marijuana. (Perhaps that I raise these questions is plenty good reason why I must never be promoted to admin status.)
From the Site Rules & Guidelines:
5. No Illegal activities. Posts and threads promoting or facilitating file swapping, drug abuse, or any other forum of illegal activity are not permitted. Any such posts will be deleted |
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My interpretation of that would be something along the lines of... "Anyone living in the Vancouver area, if you want crystal meth, call my dealer number at 9-1-1..." sort of thing.
I think we should be able to discuss things as long as they don't stir up attention from any official sources. For example, we could talk about the effects of drugs, but let's not go telling new members they can get 'instant collab' status if they tape a video of themselves shooting up a double dose or something.
Besides... everything short of murder and treason is legal in Canada.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 16 2010 at 18:06
Epignosis wrote:
My guess is he's referring to the article I linked to on the first page of this thread. It mentions meth in the introduction sarcastically.
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Some people don't understand funny. These people like Jay Leno.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 16 2010 at 18:18
stonebeard wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
My guess is he's referring to the article I linked to on the first page of this thread. It mentions meth in the introduction sarcastically.
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Some people don't understand funny. These people like Jay Leno.
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Henceforth for the purposes of this site's for 'ems Jay Leno will be considered an illegal activity. 
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Posted By: halabalushindigus
Date Posted: March 17 2010 at 01:08
I'm an idiot. I should of kept my mouth and fingers shut
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: March 17 2010 at 02:04
^^^^ Fingers shut? That's dirty!
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: June 26 2010 at 21:43
This thread is a SCREAM!
I'm inspired, so I'm going to go score some salvia online, fire up the old flamethrower, torch up the old bowl & blast out some tunes like "Baby's On Fire" and "Burnin' Down The House" at full volume while I have some fun!
All legal of course, based upon the website posted above.
And then I'll start a new topic thread to talk about it!!
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Posted By: halabalushindigus
Date Posted: June 26 2010 at 21:57
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!V!!!!!!!I!!!!!!B!!!!!!!R!!!!!!!!!A!!!!!!!!T!!!!!!!!I!!!!!!!!O!!!!!!!!!!N!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!B!!!!!!!!A!!!!!!!!!!B!!!!!!!!!!Y!!!!!!!
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Kaboom!!!
Now where were we?
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Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: June 28 2010 at 03:33
cstack3 wrote:
This thread is a SCREAM!
I'm inspired, so I'm going to go score some salvia online, fire up the old flamethrower, torch up the old bowl & blast out some tunes like "Baby's On Fire" and "Burnin' Down The House" at full volume while I have some fun!
All legal of course, based upon the website posted above.
And then I'll start a new topic thread to talk about it!! |
Just for chrissake, don't start a topic about jaywalking! You'll get banned in a second
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Posted By: omri
Date Posted: July 04 2010 at 11:48
I thought this was a serious question leading to an interesting debate. My mistake.
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: July 27 2010 at 23:14
Conor Fynes wrote:
Besides... everything short of murder and treason is legal in Canada. |
And, you know, saying something that might offend a Muslim.
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Posted By: halabalushindigus
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 11:55
The Liquor store clerk coiled and scoffed.."I DON'T have herpes!!
"No, no", I said.."that's not what I asked"... "I wanted to know if you had a hair-piece?"
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 14:36
OK doke, enough thanks. Let's keep this thread to its intended purpose, as a reporting thread.
Back to the just for fun with the rest of you! 
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Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: July 28 2010 at 18:05
Easy Livin wrote:
OK doke, enough thanks. Let's keep this thread to its intended purpose, as a reporting thread.
Back to the just for fun with the rest of you!  |
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Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: July 29 2010 at 02:35
Generally I would think that it's OK to diskuss anything, providing no illegal and/or immoral activities are canvassed.
More difficult would be who decides by which criteria canvassing is judged.
Might I suggest an objective gremium consisting of one Taliban fundamentalist, 1 women's rights activist (female), and two disabled atheists (1 mental, 1 physical)?
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: July 29 2010 at 03:39
move along, nothing to see here....
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