Emotions with Prog and... Women!
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Topic: Emotions with Prog and... Women!
Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Subject: Emotions with Prog and... Women!
Date Posted: December 12 2008 at 10:58
Frankly I have always argued that music should express emotions and must be an integral part of my approach to the pure enjoyment of the same. If a song I do not transmit emotions (no matter how strong) I do not like it. In my unfortunate life (as only I can be able to say so) I have had different experiences that have prompted me to say some basic concepts like to have a positive approach to life. In music I discovered that the Prog created in me a positive charge, for free pass through difficult moments.
Frankly, especially in recent years, I had many problems. That I passed with our loved music and the with the few friends who I truly be considered in terms of understanding what they felt.
First I have to make an excursus outside the music. In fact I must say that my friends are all Metallers or Prog Metallers or, still, bikers. With the most sincere friends I have shared moments of my life.
With other friends I shared only a beer. I could close the speech here but ... I would, for a moment, to clarify that in my life I had more satisfaction when I managed to have friendly relations with the girls or womens.
I can not understand why. Yet it is with the other half of the sky that I had and have better relationships.
Do not think that I speak of relationships based on sex. Why do I seek the true friendship. With two persons was true love. With the first person... Well... With the first person I was stupid. I liked it a lot and I must say that I had caught his attention. But because the company that school (and that she was forced to attend) have never come out with her. In truth, I tried to fly over but after a short time I realized that I could not manage to have a serious relationship with her. I was 19 years and her 16... Today I learned that's wrong... And the thing opened in me a big wound. With the second person... I will tell you that I did not understand why the fate we had taken two roads so different. But I think it's been better so!
With women is so me. When they try me I do not find. When I try... Yet the first kiss with the first person (I prefer not to make the names...) was the most profound experience of my life!
With the music works more or less like this. And I can not say that this is wrong. Just makes me feel alone.
The Prog is not a beautiful woman. My sensibility leads me to love more female voices, that I almost can not away from women.Is this a bad thing? Probably in a woman I search the depths. And when I think I understand that in the women I trying done that powerful fluid that drives two people to combine their genes to form a new life.
Certainly not all women send me through the spiked heels, miniskirts and breathtaking necklines.
If I am speaking of music... As I have said for women goes for music. That's why in my reviews speak too often of emotions and feeling. It is my fault, I know very well.
Compared Prog to a beautiful woman? I am not saying that. Yet for me is a means to understand the Prog. And also the women.
This Christmas I decided to raise my soul to heaven and declare that never fails to have what I'm in women (except in my mother). But I find all this in Prog?
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: December 12 2008 at 17:45
I think Prog is more like an old and dear friend, you get a certain something from them you don't get from others and you feel comfortable with and stimulated by them, always loyal and only disappointing occasionally.
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: December 13 2008 at 11:11
well David... Life is strange and sometimes incomprehensible. After living almost to the day... Today, no. But I now I wonder: 'What if I had chosen that day to share my best years with that girl... Today I would be a better person? '
Of course friends are important but a criterion to make friends is to find among those who have the same taste in music. As those two girls that I have not been able to convince that I was the right person to share the best moments of our lives!
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: December 14 2008 at 03:02
The problem with the " What if....." scenario is it is upon reflection. You can never compare your experience to prog music to being with a good companion or even worse off either way due to spending too much time with one and not the other! The important thing is stay loyal to both, fiercely protective and enjoy the now cos you can't bank the past
Oh and btw my wife would not even bother trying to compete with my love of prog music, besides she gets peace and quiet which is music to her ears
Prog on Mandy and have a great festive holiday ( if you are planning to have one)
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: December 14 2008 at 07:40
Well... Prog and girl... They are two ingredients of my life!
But I admit, Chris: You have totally right!
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Posted By: Yorkie X
Date Posted: December 15 2008 at 08:21
I keep reading this over and over .. interesting .. funny thing is my last partner left me due to my interest in prog over her if only she had worn that Rush T shirt I asked her to put on.
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: December 15 2008 at 09:13
Yorkie X... for you!
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Posted By: Aviv
Date Posted: December 15 2008 at 16:12
Well, nice blog though I didn't understand the complete message you were trying to pass us through, anyways my thoughtsare much like "Atavachron" thoughts, prog is your loyal friend who gives you pleasent and touchy times..
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Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: December 15 2008 at 16:59
You are still relatively young. And you need to be a lot older to come close to understanding women. If there is one thing I have learned is that most all of them have two totally different sides. They put on a nice face in public but can be absolute monsters to the ones they love. It took me a long time to figure this out. You still think that most of them are these wonderful, gentle beings that you just want to get to know and see if you are compatible. But until you see the second side, it is really hard to know the true them. Most people know my wife as a totally polite, lovely, giving woman who wouldn't hurt a fly. I know the truth that often times she would rather spit on me than look at me. I truly believe that it is hard for her to keep up the facade all day every day and that she vents her frustrations on me, just to get them out.
The thing that is different is that she is unlike a lot of women who simply do not want to be alone. They will put up with a ton of crap from men because they don't know if something better will come along. My wife is not like that at all as are a lot of women. You need to identify which one you have if you enter a relationship. Not that you should treat them like crap just to test the theory but it should help you understand where they are coming from.
And then you have the marrying type and the good time girls. Figure out which one you have in that area. Because there is a lot to marriage besides the physical. Like cooking and taking care of the nice house. I do a lot of cleaning and cooking but my wife does so much when it comes to taking care of the house and kids that I would be lost without her. And I'm not saying you need a gourmet chef or you can't cook, but do you want someone who wants to eat out every night and can't boil water? That gets old real fast. Do you want someone who can't pay a bill or has a lot of debt? Someone who can't have stimulating conversation? Marriage is hard and compatabilty is so important.
I am like you in that I usually find it easier to talk to women than men. I have no friends who like prog, so that is out, so you talk about sports and complain about women.
What does this have to do with prog? Women are even more intricate in what goes through their heads than most prog bands could ever hope to dream up. I can tell in your reviews that you take them seriously and try hard to express what the music can mean to the listener. But prog only goes one way.
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: December 16 2008 at 05:06
John, what is even write is also my thoughts, in general.Also is important what you wrote, for me. Although I have not yet developed your own experience I know that now I can share what you wrote.
After all, as I wrote a wrong company of friends can cause great pain. More for me than for you. Even for a woman because it is easy to change partners but for no man. Especially if like me at the same time acknowledges that the company had to change and that I (simultaneously) wrong with this girl.
I love women like Prog. But are two types of love totally different. And I do not know how to ear because I find instead that the Prog looks at a woman, that I have betrayed (to be cowardly).
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: December 16 2008 at 13:23
What??? Excuse me??? If I get it right, if I understand... Some of you are making a comparison between human company - especially relationship with the other sex - and a musical style? Is that it?
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 16 2008 at 13:51
Well this will probably be of no help but my wife and I have a very strong bond yet we share very little overlap in musical tastes. So as much of a music nut as I am and as much as she isn't it all works out.
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Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 16 2008 at 13:59
Hi, I'm in total agreement!!!! Music without emotion is not music that I enjoy at all. Unlike many here I love Genesis's Duke album because that's all about emotion!!! Some of the most powerful music that I know has come from Journey because of the emotion behind them!!!
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Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: December 16 2008 at 15:01
Andrea, I thought a lot about my post last night and was worried I was trying to come across as some type of expert, which I am certainly not. Once you think you know it all, you are doomed so you have to always be willing to learn and roll with the punches.
I lived with a woman for three years prior to marrying someone else and when I look back on that, I realize how totally devoid of any knowledge about women that I was. She left me because I had become a jerk. Of course after she goes, that's when I decide to be a man and I asked her to marry me, which she declined. I was pretty broken up but now I know it was for the best for both of us. I wish her only the best because she deserved a better man than what I was then.
I believe you will have happiness in your future. After all, you are Mandrakeroot!
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: December 17 2008 at 04:00
CPicard wrote:
What??? Excuse me??? If I get it right, if I understand... Some of you are making a comparison between human company - especially relationship with the other sex - and a musical style? Is that it?
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Exactly!
They are two different things. I prefer the human warmth to heat a CD! Also because a woman will ever understand ... A CD can do so?
And the honest friendship of a friend (preferably female, for me) is the best thing there is, in this world!
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: December 17 2008 at 04:06
johnobvious wrote:
Andrea, I thought a lot about my post last night and was worried I was trying to come across as some type of expert, which I am certainly not. Once you think you know it all, you are doomed so you have to always be willing to learn and roll with the punches.
I lived with a woman for three years prior to marrying someone else and when I look back on that, I realize how totally devoid of any knowledge about women that I was. She left me because I had become a jerk. Of course after she goes, that's when I decide to be a man and I asked her to marry me, which she declined. I was pretty broken up but now I know it was for the best for both of us. I wish her only the best because she deserved a better man than what I was then.
I believe you will have happiness in your future. After all, you are Mandrakeroot!
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This is the real life, my friend...!
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 17 2008 at 13:46
Mandrakeroot wrote:
CPicard wrote:
What??? Excuse me??? If I get it right, if I understand... Some of you are making a comparison between human company - especially relationship with the other sex - and a musical style? Is that it?
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Exactly!
They are two different things. I prefer the human warmth to heat a CD! Also because a woman will ever understand ... A CD can do so?
And the honest friendship of a friend (preferably female, for me) is the best thing there is, in this world! |
Once you go hermaphrodite you'll never go back. And what exactly do you have against cross dressers anyway?
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Posted By: stewe
Date Posted: December 17 2008 at 13:59
Interesting artice, enjoyed it. Well I think it is somehow connceted very much, these two essences of life, music is there to remind me some experiences in life, feelings especially about girls, and makes it all more intense. In progressive music I percieve a lot of depth, emotions, kind of intelligence, that I usually don't find much in other styles (though there are many exceptions, of course), especially in most of mainstream. I can't go to disco and find girl there, because can't accept this, to me very superficial music and lifestyle as a whole, that is disgusting. Guess that someone who love music in that way I do, usually doesn't search for woman who is shallow, follows the fashion, trends etc. (I find most of girls like that unfortunately, I'm still surrounded by this life as university student). Speaking for myself, concerning mentality of girl, I have always difficult and complicated time to find similar soul in her, I much insist on that sort of similar qualities like in music (man who can enjoy and like mainstream music played on discos, usually don't have problem to enjoy more shallow women that I really can't stand). So... it may give no sense what i've written:), but still there is surely something about it.:)
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: December 18 2008 at 04:00
I am a misanthrope, I relate more to music than to people, no seriously!!! This also means I hate small talk like few things in the world so when I make conversation of substantial length outside my professional orbit, it is to do with music or books or sports...in which case, I am almost always talking to men rather than women. For whatever reason, in my country women are not encouraged, though not discouraged either, to have artistic ideas, so I don't bump into any women who are as passionate about music as I am or some of my male friends are without making it a livelihood.
I am in agreement with Johnobvious though I have not entered into relationships with women so far in life. Do not let the facade of gentleness and warmth deceive you. My observation is that even in matters of work, women are more likely to doublecross you than men....men are - let's accept the truth guys - a little stupid and horrible at acting and they usually crack under pressure and start 'singing' - before you say 'smartaleck', let me tell you I am no different. I have seen some women colleagues deny their responsibilities in a job we both had worked on together at the crunch moment with an absolutely straight, innocent face and leave me alone in the firing line. More recently, I was on an audit assignment where I watched with amusement a pretty young woman employee flirt subtly but evidently to escape censure from her boss and routinely rant vehemently at her fellow employees to lay the blame for her mistakes on them. I don't really blame her, if I could get rid of all my problems by flashing a million-dollar smile, why not?
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: December 18 2008 at 04:13
stewe wrote:
Interesting artice, enjoyed it. Well I think it is somehow connceted very much, these two essences of life, music is there to remind me some experiences in life, feelings especially about girls, and makes it all more intense. In progressive music I percieve a lot of depth, emotions, kind of intelligence, that I usually don't find much in other styles (though there are many exceptions, of course), especially in most of mainstream. I can't go to disco and find girl there, because can't accept this, to me very superficial music and lifestyle as a whole, that is disgusting. Guess that someone who love music in that way I do, usually doesn't search for woman who is shallow, follows the fashion, trends etc. (I find most of girls like that unfortunately, I'm still surrounded by this life as university student). Speaking for myself, concerning mentality of girl, I have always difficult and complicated time to find similar soul in her, I much insist on that sort of similar qualities like in music (man who can enjoy and like mainstream music played on discos, usually don't have problem to enjoy more shallow women that I really can't stand). So... it may give no sense what i've written:), but still there is surely something about it.:)
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What I highlighted is exactly 100% my thoughts!
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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: December 18 2008 at 04:25
Prog is between man and man only!
Who cares if men want to get together and dress as flowers,wear sparkling gold capes and wear giant eyeballs on there heads with top hats.
But if you do bump into a woman around my age who likes king crimson....send her my way.
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: December 18 2008 at 04:31
Slartibartfast wrote:
Mandrakeroot wrote:
CPicard wrote:
What??? Excuse me??? If I get it right, if I understand... Some of you are making a comparison between human company - especially relationship with the other sex - and a musical style? Is that it?
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Exactly!
They are two different things. I prefer the human warmth to heat a CD! Also because a woman will ever understand ... A CD can do so?
And the honest friendship of a friend (preferably female, for me) is the best thing there is, in this world! |
Once you go hermaphrodite you'll never go back. And what exactly do you have against cross dressers anyway?
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If I understood correctly... Given my knowledge of English language... I believe that love should also have a deep friendship. I believe also that there are various forms of deep friendships. By Prog I have, in a certain sense, that profound sense of satisfaction that is part of the love of the material things... What we do not know and explain that we exchange for love!
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: December 18 2008 at 04:55
mrcozdude wrote:
Prog is between man and man only!
Who cares if men want to get together and dress as flowers,wear sparkling gold capes and wear giant eyeballs on there heads with top hats.
But if you do bump into a woman around my age who likes king crimson....send her my way. |
Hmm ... I believe that everyone can believe as a dress. But it is the kind of mentality of those that you described that I do not like. And here I would like to conclude not be censored!
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 18 2008 at 10:24
Mandrakeroot wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
Mandrakeroot wrote:
CPicard wrote:
What??? Excuse me??? If I get it right, if I understand... Some of you are making a comparison between human company - especially relationship with the other sex - and a musical style? Is that it?
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Exactly!
They are two different things. I prefer the human warmth to heat a CD! Also because a woman will ever understand ... A CD can do so?
And the honest friendship of a friend (preferably female, for me) is the best thing there is, in this world! |
Once you go hermaphrodite you'll never go back. And what exactly do you have against cross dressers anyway?
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If I understood correctly... Given my knowledge of English language... I believe that love should also have a deep friendship. I believe also that there are various forms of deep friendships. By Prog I have, in a certain sense, that profound sense of satisfaction that is part of the love of the material things... What we do not know and explain that we exchange for love! |
It was a bad joke. CD is short in English for both Compact Disc and Cross Dresser.
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: December 18 2008 at 18:30
Slartibartfast wrote:
Mandrakeroot wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
Mandrakeroot wrote:
CPicard wrote:
What??? Excuse me??? If I get it right, if I understand... Some of you are making a comparison between human company - especially relationship with the other sex - and a musical style? Is that it?
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Exactly!
They are two different things. I prefer the human warmth to heat a CD! Also because a woman will ever understand ... A CD can do so?
And the honest friendship of a friend (preferably female, for me) is the best thing there is, in this world! |
Once you go hermaphrodite you'll never go back. And what exactly do you have against cross dressers anyway?
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If I understood correctly... Given my knowledge of English language... I believe that love should also have a deep friendship. I believe also that there are various forms of deep friendships. By Prog I have, in a certain sense, that profound sense of satisfaction that is part of the love of the material things... What we do not know and explain that we exchange for love! |
It was a bad joke. CD is short in English for both Compact Disc and Cross Dresser.
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Oh my GirlGod!!!
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: December 19 2008 at 16:35
This thread is going to turn into a big, giant joke about homoeroticism.
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: December 21 2008 at 04:57
CPicard wrote:
This thread is going to turn into a big, giant joke about homoeroticism. |
Which is exactly what I did not want to happen!
I say that in that case we would have missed a great opportunity to express opinions on what that friendship in its various aspects
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Posted By: PetrucciPal
Date Posted: December 26 2008 at 19:42
Yorkie X wrote:
I keep reading this over and over .. interesting .. funny thing is my last partner left me due to my interest in prog over her if only she had worn that Rush T shirt I asked her to put on.
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Jesus, that's retarded. Rush is amazing! =D
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Posted By: PetrucciPal
Date Posted: December 26 2008 at 19:44
mrcozdude wrote:
Prog is between man and man only!
Who cares if men want to get together and dress as flowers,wear sparkling gold capes and wear giant eyeballs on there heads with top hats.
But if you do bump into a woman around my age who likes king crimson....send her my way. |
Ahh, but that's where you're wrong! Prog is a genre, and it can be between anybody of either sex. It's too amazing to keep it from the opposite gender XD
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Posted By: Prospero
Date Posted: January 19 2009 at 18:34
You need one or two more failed relationships to realize the useless of
fondness in female friendship. Broken hearts are for a****les indeed, and if you do not understand that then you're probably out to lunch.
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Posted By: alanterrill
Date Posted: February 10 2009 at 15:57
Well this is an unusaul thread, and I'm sorry to see that so many of you have been unlucky in love and with sharing your musical tastes with your partners. This is just to say it can work! I met my wife at school when I was 16. We'd both just been to the Plumpton Rock festival (1970) and spent our first evening discussing the bands we'd seen. We've grown up together listening to the same music and we love the same things . I think the only bands she doesn't like are the Beatles and the Cardiacs. But Van Der Graaf, Egg, Alamailmaan Vasarat. Lars Hollmer, Detektivbyran, Uz Jsme Doma - we both like the same. When we had children we stopped playing some of them, such as Yes as the kids couldn't stand them. After our son died (age 12) we started playing them again, as songs like 'Close to the Edge' touched a chord of hopefulness after the loss we suffered. But we survived, we love each other more than ever, and we're still going to see Van der graaf whenever we can! Have faith -you may yet meet your perfect partner.
Alan
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: February 11 2009 at 05:11
Its all about giving something back.
Im sure if you show interest in whatever your female compagnion want to share, she will be interested in joining you for that Crimson consert.
And if you dont tell her that Christine A, is the worst crap, but instead says, wow that was interesting now listen to this track. ( I sugggest you dont start with the hardest/strangest)
Then you got a shot at actualy making her like (some off) what you like.
Even though i dont belive you should compromise with everyone/everywhere, love is diffrent.
In love you gotta accept the diffrence, you gotta love the diffrence.
Firgt for your right to listen to prog. sure !, but dont fight too hard, and think hard about how you fight.
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Posted By: sussexbowler
Date Posted: February 14 2009 at 09:05
There are some interesting things going on here, and for me it is a little bit topical.
I was going through heartbtreak over Christmas, and at the time I was listening to 'Paradise Hotel' by the Flower Kings. Now you must understand that I do not listen to the words when I listen to music. I listen to the, er, music.
Anyway, there were two songs that absolutely killed me. 'Jealousy' might as well have been named after the girl's name as far as I was concerned, and on Christmas Day it brought me to tears.
As the girl in question hails from Eastern Europe (and I'm English) I suffered some more in 'Bavarian skies'. Dreadfully painful! Strangely, no one talks about these two tracks in their reviews...
I'm currently suffering some more with Sylvan's 'That's why it hurts'.
It's not Prog itself that is the cause, more the fact that it is the type of music that I listen to.
My emotions therefore breathe through Prog.
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: February 14 2009 at 09:46
sussexbowler wrote:
Now you must understand that I do not listen to the words when I listen to music. I listen to the, er, music. |
Why can't you listen to both words and music? I've heard The Flower Kings don't sing in Chinese.
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Posted By: Borris
Date Posted: February 15 2009 at 01:13
Good topic. Prog is mostly boys music, there are exceptions, I'm not altogether sure why that is.
I found myself thinking it might be because Prog unlike most pop isn't addressed to women, it's message isn't generally "make love to me little girl" which a lot of pop and rock 'n' roll is. So as Prog isn't wooing the women, the women turn their back on it. It's a theory.
I too get emotionally involved in music, I find Yes "Close to the Edge" and "And You and I" very emotionally involved. Leonard Cohen too moves me greatly. I listen to more music by men than women, and i love that music, but I'd much rather make love to a women, I also enjoy women's company.
Maybe in art you can forge and find the perfection that alluded you in life. No that's not right as art is life for me.
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Posted By: sussexbowler
Date Posted: February 15 2009 at 05:29
Dear Notaproghead,
I don't know why I don't listen to the words. I just seem to hear the music. The singing ends up being a tone to me, which is probably why I can listen to Wagner.
I forgot to mention that 'The awakening' from Tomas Bodin's IAM album was another beautiful/painful experience, though it is not really a Prog song, more a love song in itself.
Again, although a love song I have no idea what it's all about...
If I listen to words then I might remember a line or a chorus, but simply as a combination of words as opposed to a meaningful statement.
Surely 'singing' implies using the voice as a musically instrument?
It's context are the politics...
As regards the 'women into Prog bit', Prog bands or characters do not go out of their way to be male icons that will appeal to female audiences. They are not run by marketing machines that will employ sex as a tool to sell the product.
You won't see them in areas of the Media where their sex appeal is a concern. It's always been that way really, but of course the World has become younger and with it more sexual. We therefore need youngsters who can be icons to become involved. In recent times the so-called youngsters that dabble DENY that they are playing Prog... It's supposedly unfashionable to do Prog... Thanks.
Equally, in a World that continues to 'Dumb-down', Prog (which really is more intellectual musically than the everyday fare) is flowing against the norm. The everyday Media therefore ignore its existence...
I'm afraid to say that it is the music that does all the talking. Maybe guys are more willing to experiment musically (and as a result eventually find Prog) whilst the girls perhaps have more pressing issues in life to deal with as they get older.
Sorry lads, it seems that Prog isn't sexy, but at least it is good...
To all the girls that have found Prog, we salute you!
Let us know what you think.
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Posted By: Rabid
Date Posted: February 23 2009 at 17:30
Find a girl with a healthy prog-rock collection. Niet problemski !
I don't think music HAS to have lyrics to be emotional.
Miles Davis seemed to squeeze more emotion from one note than most do from an entire album.
If your girl does'nt like your music, you got the wrong girl !
EZ, Bro
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: March 02 2009 at 04:25
Lol im 15 and i have this fat image in my head of winning a girl with either Marillion's Easter, Or Genesis' Behind The Lines lol...
so goddamn cheesy and so goddamn good.
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: March 02 2009 at 06:09
Rabid wrote:
If your girl does'nt like your music, you got the wrong girl ! |
I totally agree.
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: March 02 2009 at 10:06
NotAProghead wrote:
Rabid wrote:
If your girl does'nt like your music, you got the wrong girl ! |
I totally agree. |
I probably would also agree. However, I believe that this can not be true. Strangely, and I say this from personal experience, I met several men who loved girls (and vice versa) without loving the same music. Then, and this is my experience, I let my girlfriend for this reason!!!
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: March 02 2009 at 10:13
I am a girl (or rather woman), and I have no problem with my girl (or rather wife). She likes prog too, and we have a huge collection.
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: March 02 2009 at 10:18
Mandrakeroot wrote:
NotAProghead wrote:
Rabid wrote:
If your girl does'nt like your music, you got the wrong girl ! |
I totally agree. |
I probably would also agree. However, I believe that this can not be true. Strangely, and I say this from personal experience, I met several men who loved girls (and vice versa) without loving the same music. Then, and this is my experience, I let my girlfriend for this reason!!! |
Andrea, I think expecting from most of girls love to prog is too much. But mutual tolerance and some similarities in tastes, not only in music, but regarding to movies, literature etc are necessary. I don't envy those couples who don't have common interests.
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Posted By: heatherrr
Date Posted: March 23 2009 at 21:17
Ahh, keep your head up! There may not be many of us out there, but girls do like prog..
Although, you shouldn't look for a girl based on her music taste, just find one you have a good connection with. If she likes you enough she'll at least give your music a chance, and if she doesn't like it, it won't be the end of the world. :]
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: March 25 2009 at 08:55
NotAProghead wrote:
Mandrakeroot wrote:
NotAProghead wrote:
Rabid wrote:
If your girl does'nt like your music, you got the wrong girl ! |
I totally agree. |
I probably would also agree. However, I believe that this can not be true. Strangely, and I say this from personal experience, I met several men who loved girls (and vice versa) without loving the same music. Then, and this is my experience, I let my girlfriend for this reason!!! |
Andrea, I think expecting from most of girls love to prog is too much.
But mutual tolerance and some similarities in tastes, not only in music, but regarding to movies, literature etc are necessary. I don't envy those couples who don't have common interests. |
I'm all right with you!!! But it is clear that I have reported my experience.
My ex girlfriend is a great Metal and Prog fans!!!
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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: March 29 2009 at 14:10
As for the entire "picking friends and potential girlfriends from their tastes in music", that's something I sometimes engage in (meeting people at gigs, esp. local ones where I can count on them being regulars) but just as often not care much about. In the latter case, however, I find that people I get well along with often listen to some of the same music as I do even though it should perhaps be mentioned here that since I begun in college last autumn I've become a much more extroverted person and begun listening to more different genres of music. I'm certain that there is some kind of correlation. People's personalities usually influence their taste in music, not the other way around... but sometimes it's a bit unclear really.
EDIT: By the way, I didn't know Bald Friede was a woman. Guess you learn something every day.
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: April 07 2009 at 04:07
Is interesting to note that lately I have had very strange experiences with women. Many see in me a nice person... Others see in me a musically educated person (some, in this category, see in me a musical teacher...!!!)... But all agree that only a madman can listen to King Crimson...
...And I am not a madman!!!
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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: April 08 2009 at 04:13
That's funny, while the borderline-metal of the John Wetton era is very "masculine" music I don't think the more symphonic/psychedelic stuff King Crimson played early on wouldn't (stereotypicaly) appeal to women.
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: April 08 2009 at 04:17
The fact is more strange if I consider that my list of girlfriends love (or please) Prog Metal!
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 08:20
Mandrakeroot wrote:
The fact is more strange if I consider that my list of girlfriends love (or please) Prog Metal! |
Lucky b*****d!
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 08:29
progkidjoel wrote:
Mandrakeroot wrote:
The fact is more strange if I consider that my list of girlfriends love (or please) Prog Metal! |
Lucky b*****d! |
Mandi is the site's resident stud.... didn't he have a mother and a daughter at the same time... hell... I think both were pregnant as well
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 02:24
micky wrote:
progkidjoel wrote:
Mandrakeroot wrote:
The fact is more strange if I consider that my list of girlfriends love (or please) Prog Metal! |
Lucky b*****d! | Mandi is the site's resident stud.... didn't he have a mother and a daughter at the same time... hell... I think both were pregnant as well |
I don't even know what to say, or how to feel about that!!!!
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 05:58
progkidjoel wrote:
micky wrote:
progkidjoel wrote:
Mandrakeroot wrote:
The fact is more strange if I consider that my list of girlfriends love (or please) Prog Metal! |
Lucky b*****d! | Mandi is the site's resident stud.... didn't he have a mother and a daughter at the same time... hell... I think both were pregnant as well |
I don't even know what to say, or how to feel about that!!!! |
The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad.
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/s/salvadorda103580.html - Salvador Dali
There is only one difference between a madman and me. The madman thinks he is sane. I know I am mad.
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/s/salvadorda141776.html - Salvador Dali
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Posted By: Mind_Drive
Date Posted: September 06 2009 at 08:34
I think that itīs really important that your partner has in some way the same taste of music as you.
lately wich means the last 2 years i was into a girl. we had a very
unique relationship but in the end she decided herself in favor of her
boyfriend. now there is the problem: i tend to cennect girls with music
in my emotions... we got a special album together wich is as beautiful
as she is and she really did enjoy this music as well.. hm now i canīt
listen to it without getting extremely sad
when i think back to the time with her the thing i regret the most is that i never showed her all of the music i love.. although she is listening to reggae/ska etc and not prog.. i know that she was the person to understand this music, perhaps the only girl (except for my sister) i know by now. shes very musical and we could have jammed together or whatever. now she will probably never get to know this genre well..
in this situations much music can be applied to my feelings and songtexts get a new meaning for me. for example the best of times by dream theater (although its referring to portnoys father): "thank you for the inspiration, thank you for the smiles, all the unconditional love..." i had to think of her at once when i heared this song the first time. in my entire life there was no person wich has changed me and given me so much like she did.. well i donīt know whether anyone is interested in this^^ but i felt good in writing down this sh*t, so..
greetz
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: September 14 2009 at 07:51
Can't say common ground in musical taste has ever been a big issue for
me re female humanoids (or shared political and spiritual values for
that matter) perhaps the one thing that I do feel is a prerequisite for
compatibility is humour, the latter serves to cut through whatever differences you may have in many other areas)
- (Sigh) No it doesn't you furball impersonating a mammal !
- Erm...I rest my case hun
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Posted By: Rushgrrrl
Date Posted: October 24 2009 at 12:57
I've tried dating men that had no taste in music, I even went to a Nickelback show!
*hangs head in shame*
It wasn't worth it. There's got to be some interest or this prog head isn't interested.
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Posted By: Mind_Drive
Date Posted: October 24 2009 at 13:29
Rushgrrrl wrote:
I've tried dating men that had no taste in music, I even went to a Nickelback show!
*hangs head in shame*
It wasn't worth it. There's got to be some interest or this prog head isn't interested.
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Hi and welcome to PA
well i know that one tries to be interested in the others music (because itīs not possible to get the other to like prog) just to have commons. but in fact this doesnīt make you happy. and i found it really frustrating when you try to share your music and know that the other just doesnīt get it...
progheads are somehow very handicapped when they try to find a partner with the same musical taste (bec there are so few people who like it)
yes.. but i hope you have fun here and maybe youīll find some guy (the music-taste is for sure the right )
greets
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: December 23 2009 at 10:34
ExittheLemming wrote:
Can't say common ground in musical taste has ever been a big issue for
me re female humanoids (or shared political and spiritual values for
that matter) perhaps the one thing that I do feel is a prerequisite for
compatibility is humour, the latter serves to cut through whatever differences you may have in many other areas)
- (Sigh) No it doesn't you furball impersonating a mammal !
- Erm...I rest my case hun
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Again I find myself devoid of things to say after ExittheLemming put in a post. Humour indeed. Don't take your differences too seriously, don't take opinions too seriously, don't take prog too seriously, only take your girl seriously!
Hmm, can 'take' possibly be misinterpreted here?
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Posted By: progpositivity
Date Posted: April 14 2010 at 17:40
It really doesn't have to be a huge issue if guy's spouse doesn't share his same taste in music. The most important thing is that she really digs... *him*! And - of course - that he is very much devoted to... *her*!
On the other hand, I would recommend that a guy make sure his girlfriend is open-minded enough to at least tolerate (with a sunny disposition) his music blaring in the house and him attending concerts. If she becomes jealous of his prog zealoutry as a girlfriend, it will probably only get worse once she weds and starts thinking she has become a "prog-widow"!
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Posted By: Rushgrrrl
Date Posted: August 06 2010 at 03:35
Somewhere in this thread it was said that women probably wouldn't like Crimson with Wetton...
Other things like, prog is boy music or whatever... lol
All I know is I've loved this genre most of my life, never gave it a second thought. I realize I am the exception, I used to see it every time I went to a prog show. I was usually one of the 12 women there. Lately tho, I've noticed a LOT more women at shows. There were screaming women at the last PT show I went to, it was awesome!!
BTW...I about pee myself whenever I listen to Starless... just sayin ;)
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Posted By: Rushgrrrl
Date Posted: August 06 2010 at 03:40
Mind_Drive wrote:
Rushgrrrl wrote:
I've tried dating men that had no taste in music, I even went to a Nickelback show!
*hangs head in shame*
It wasn't worth it. There's got to be some interest or this prog head isn't interested.
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Hi and welcome to PA
well i know that one tries to be interested in the others music (because itīs not possible to get the other to like prog) just to have commons. but in fact this doesnīt make you happy. and i found it really frustrating when you try to share your music and know that the other just doesnīt get it...
progheads are somehow very handicapped when they try to find a partner with the same musical taste (bec there are so few people who like it)
yes.. but i hope you have fun here and maybe youīll find some guy (the music-taste is for sure the right )
greets
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Thank you MD! Still trying to figure out your thread process... is it completely backwards? Like, the newest post is always first?
Confuzit...
Yeah, a guy I dated last year... I tried to find those "common" bands you're talking about. Dude hadn't even heard of Cake. How the hell can you not know who Cake is? Well, I tried. LOL
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 06 2010 at 05:09
the problem is that the minds of men and women work differently, due to the specialization they had in the course of evolution.
men's minds work linearly: stalk the prey - surround it - attack - kill
women's minds work like networks: keep the flame going - Uglug, stay away from the meat - where is the stone to grind flour with? - the pelts need some cleaning too - breastfeed Aglag - Uglug, what did I tell you! - keep the flame going again - grind flour - Uglug, don't hit the dog - I have to collect some herbs again - and Oglog will probably want to have sex with me again tonight, but I'll tell him I have a headache - Uglug, stop sucking that bone - keep flame going
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Posted By: GY!BE
Date Posted: August 19 2010 at 20:14
For me the emotions that come when I listen to music are strangely similar of when I'm with the women I love...
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Posted By: johnny23
Date Posted: August 27 2010 at 08:57
I can definitely relate with you. It's true that prog and women spark entirely different emotions. There's something about women or being in a relationship that makes me feel happier, and almost steer away from the hardore music. Yet, when the breakup finally arrives, that's when I turn off the Steve Winwood and start blasting Rise Against again. Music will always be your lover!
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Posted By: lensag
Date Posted: August 27 2010 at 09:42
oh my music and women...
i confess i tried to read the first post twice and i still do no understand it....but from other things people wrote in here iīd like to write some things about relationships.
One of the major things for a relationship to work is the acceptance of the other as he/she is. Thatīs something some people learn the hard way, but the reality is that every partner has something the other partner doesnīt like or would like to change. If these issues are minor that might not be a problem but if they are core-issues they can really be a pain in the a**. For example i once dated a girl who was catholic (iīm an atheist) and she once said to me that my biggest problem was that i was an atheist. I was younger and at that time those kind of comments just started to raise an issue between the two of us (being an atheist was a big atribute in the definition of my identity). i never wanted her to change - i accepted it - but somehow i knew that issue would destroy our relationship (and 2 and a half years later) it did (of course not that issue alone).
The thing is, we must know ourselves very well to be able to understand what things are we able to accept in a partner. i would never dump a women because she has different musical preferences. But in the the first place it would be unlikely for me to date a women who liked gangsta rap....
Iīm more compelled to listen to music that can create or induce an emotional state (like some of you). (That is the reason why i love anathema so much). Music is a powerful mean to meet people who share at least a certain degree of sensibility (musical sensibility), but for me it isnīt all in a relationship. Good communication is the key...
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and resentment rides high but emotions wonīt grow
And weīre changing our ways, taking different roads..
Then love, love will tear us apart again.."
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Posted By: Anirml
Date Posted: September 23 2010 at 16:19
I was listening to Supper's Ready today (were full moon =D) on my Mp3.
(Walking across the sitting-room, I turn the television off.
Sitting beside you, I look into your eyes.
As the sound of motor cars fades in the night time,
I swear I saw your face change, it didn't seem quite right.
...And it's hello babe with your guardian eyes so blue
Hey my baby don't you know our love is true.)
While I sang the first part of the song (the lines above) a beautiful woman passed me by and said it sounded nice and that I sang well
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 14 2014 at 19:38
Mandrakeroot wrote:
Frankly I have always argued that music should express emotions and must be an integral part of my approach to the pure enjoyment of the same. If a song I do not transmit emotions (no matter how strong) I do not like it. In my unfortunate life (as only I can be able to say so) I have had different experiences that have prompted me to say some basic concepts like to have a positive approach to life. In music I discovered that the Prog created in me a positive charge, for free pass through difficult moments.
Frankly, especially in recent years, I had many problems. That I passed with our loved music and the with the few friends who I truly be considered in terms of understanding what they felt.
First I have to make an excursus outside the music. In fact I must say that my friends are all Metallers or Prog Metallers or, still, bikers. With the most sincere friends I have shared moments of my life.
With other friends I shared only a beer. I could close the speech here but ... I would, for a moment, to clarify that in my life I had more satisfaction when I managed to have friendly relations with the girls or womens.
I can not understand why. Yet it is with the other half of the sky that I had and have better relationships.
Do not think that I speak of relationships based on sex. Why do I seek the true friendship. With two persons was true love. With the first person... Well... With the first person I was stupid. I liked it a lot and I must say that I had caught his attention. But because the company that school (and that she was forced to attend) have never come out with her. In truth, I tried to fly over but after a short time I realized that I could not manage to have a serious relationship with her. I was 19 years and her 16... Today I learned that's wrong... And the thing opened in me a big wound. With the second person... I will tell you that I did not understand why the fate we had taken two roads so different. But I think it's been better so!
With women is so me. When they try me I do not find. When I try... Yet the first kiss with the first person (I prefer not to make the names...) was the most profound experience of my life!
With the music works more or less like this. And I can not say that this is wrong. Just makes me feel alone.
The Prog is not a beautiful woman. My sensibility leads me to love more female voices, that I almost can not away from women.Is this a bad thing? Probably in a woman I search the depths. And when I think I understand that in the women I trying done that powerful fluid that drives two people to combine their genes to form a new life.
Certainly not all women send me through the spiked heels, miniskirts and breathtaking necklines.
If I am speaking of music... As I have said for women goes for music. That's why in my reviews speak too often of emotions and feeling. It is my fault, I know very well.
Compared Prog to a beautiful woman? I am not saying that. Yet for me is a means to understand the Prog. And also the women.
This Christmas I decided to raise my soul to heaven and declare that never fails to have what I'm in women (except in my mother). But I find all this in Prog?
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Awww Mandrakeroot,
You seem so sweet, hurt yet so cute.
I do have to disagree with you in terms that prog that it is not about beautiful women, at times it's an escape, the moozik takes you to a different place especially if you let yourself go become free while listening through headphones, let your feelings go especially if the music is so good you feel it right from the gut, close your eyes and it will take you into the most wonderful journey :) hugs xxxxx
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Posted By: Kentucky_Hawkwindage
Date Posted: April 15 2014 at 19:24
BaldJean wrote:
the problem is that the minds of men and women work differently, due to the specialization they had in the course of evolution.men's minds work linearly: stalk the prey - surround it - attack - killwomen's minds work like networks: keep the flame going - Uglug, stay away from the meat - where is the stone to grind flour with? - the pelts need some cleaning too - breastfeed Aglag - Uglug, what did I tell you! - keep the flame going again - grind flour - Uglug, don't hit the dog - I have to collect some herbs again - and Oglog will probably want to have sex with me again tonight, but I'll tell him I have a headache - Uglug, stop sucking that bone - keep flame going |
LMAO! Might be time for to look for new cave Oglog....
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: April 17 2014 at 07:35
Right, notwithstanding that vegetarians have no requirement to surround their prey and attack say ferocious lettuce or ironic runner beans, is the atavistic female deity a.k.a. Baldjean (referencing an exclusively male phenomenon) saying that the primordial breadwinner and provident teat is the female but the carnivorous conquering villain is the male?
Warning: there are traces of sarcasm in this post
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: April 17 2014 at 08:49
All this talk about prey is making me hungry. I might have to dominate and conquer a mid-morning snack in a bit.
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It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased.
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: July 30 2014 at 05:17
Men are from Venus Furs , women are from Mars Volta
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