wtf coldplay???
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Topic: wtf coldplay???
Posted By: CCVP
Subject: wtf coldplay???
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 10:43
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Seems like Coldplay's most recent album, Viva la Vida or Death to all His Friends, isn't very original. Check this: "Everybody assumes I'm trying to go after these guys in Coldplay, as if I'm doing this with malice, that's the furthest thing from my mind. I'm just doing what I need to do as an artist, to protect what's mine, to protect those feelings I put down in song," Satriani says. He added, "I did everything I could to avoid a court case with this situation. But oldplay didn't want to talk about it. They just wanted this whole thing to go away. Maybe they figured this little guitar player guy will leave them alone after a while, I don't know. But we're talking about a piece of art that I created, and that's something I feel is important. I think everybody should feel that way." According to Satriani, there were never any doubts in his mind that "Viva La Vida" had taken elements from his own song. "I felt like a dagger went right through my heart. It hurt so much. The second I heard it, I knew it was ‘If I Could Fly’," he says. Satriani isn’t the only one who hears a similarity; he says his fans do to. "Almost immediately, from the minute their song came out, my e-mail box flooded with people going, ‘Have you heard this song by Coldplay? They ripped you off man,’" he says. "I mean, I couldn't tell you how many e-mails I received. Everybody noticed the similarities between the songs. It's pretty obvious." Coldplay have yet to release a statement regarding Satriani’s lawsuit but this isn’t the first time the band has been accused of plagiarism. Earlier this year the lead singer of The Creaky Boards accused the band of stealing "Viva La Vida" from one of their own songs, ironically titled "The Songs I Didn’t Write". The case fell through when The Creaky Boards couldn’t offer sufficient evidence that proved their accusations. Source: www.ultimate-guitar.com Evidence : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ofFw9DKu_I&eurl=http://www.omelete.com.br/musi/100016894.aspx -------------   
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 10:58
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I've heard of plagiarism accusations based on less similarities, so this one could get messy. (...and we were wondering what sounds so "progressive" in Coldplay's latest.  )------------- 
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Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 11:00
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I heard Eugène Delacroix sued Coldplay for using his famous painting "La liberté guidant le peuple" as their album cover. -------------  
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 11:04
I heard Eugène Delacroix died a while before the album was released.  |
Bern wrote:Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 11:14
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That melody that Satriani is suing over definitely bears a similarity. The whole sequence isn't the same rhythmically, but most of the notes (at the beginning particularly) sound the same. However, I don't think Coldplay listens to Joe, and I think that melody is a very simple one; anyone could have written that before either of those two. Furthermore, I don't think Coldplay and Joe share many fans. I don't think Coldplay fans are going to stop listening to "Viva la Vida" and listen to "If I Could Fly" for enjoyment or for the principle.
Joe suing for all the profits seems like its more about the money than the art. Certainly his relevance in music has been on the decline over the past few years and this could be the perfect opportunity to stir up some controversy, bring him back into the public eye, or at least make same extra money.
Given that Coldplay formally asked permission to lift that line in "Talk" from Kraftwerk, I'm led to believe that they would have asked Joe if they knew they were taking that line. In this day and age, you have to be really dumb to lift a prominent melody from any song and release it as your super-mega hit. Truly, though, if Coldplay didn't even speak with him early on and this is the result of neglect and apathy on Coldplay's part, this is their own fault. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
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Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 11:14
I heard that I already knew that. -------------
RIP in bossa nova heaven. |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 12:49
i lol'd so f*cking hard. OMG!  -------------
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 16:47
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Already a thread for this!
By the way, the Creaky Boards suit was dropped when Coldplay produced demos from 2007, which proved co-development. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77UgMJBH80I - That's right, the melody and chord progression is so simple that they accidentally wrote almost exactly the same song.
People only care because Coldplay made a lot of money. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 20:54
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So they have some to share ?
------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 02:48
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yes, it is exactly the same song IMO- if Satriani took Coldplay to court he could sue them for copyright, if indeed he wrote the tune.
many artists in the past have got away with using traditional (blues/folk) tunes and got away with it because no-one really knew who wrote them in the first place, though one of the most documented court cases was the "He's so Fine"song copied by George Harrison for "My Sweet Lord" , he had to pay a lot of compensation.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 07:22
| Having listened to the Satriani song a few times, there is a definite similarity between a guitar motif and the verse melody of Viva La Vida, however the rest of the tracks aren't that similar. The Coldplay song is based around a fairly basic 4 chord sequence so isn't that original. It would be very hard to prove that Coldplay had actually ripped off Satriani. |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 09:30
Brazilian artist Jorge Ben Jor sued Rod Stewart for the same reason and won. . . Rod Stewart used Jorge Ben's song Taj Mahal as the source of the melody for Da Ya Think I'm Sexy? -------------
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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: December 13 2008 at 13:03
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There's another band who claim coldplay stole there song and Chris Martin was even seen at there gig.I personaly don't think Coldplay have plagirised.
Is plagirised a word? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cozfunkel/" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: December 13 2008 at 13:09
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Here's that other song: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eUhFLiw6h6s - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eUhFLiw6h6s
It's awful lol ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cozfunkel/" rel="nofollow">
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