The Who
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Topic: The Who
Posted By: dude
Subject: The Who
Date Posted: August 27 2008 at 13:15
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Not prog of course but i was listening to "Wont get fooled again"..then i realised,So many great songs from a great band,The Who is one of those bands that creeps up on me,i think "im not a fan" Then i think about all the songs i liked.."i liked that one,ANd that one,AND that one...my goodness,so many classics....what do other forum members think? |
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Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: August 27 2008 at 13:36
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You don't have to convince me. I've been a fan since I saw them open for Herman's Hermits in '67. Their catalogue of quality work is staggering. ------------- "Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain |
Posted By: febus
Date Posted: August 27 2008 at 13:38
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I agrree ..so many good songs, but like everybody else, some not so great!!
Funny, i was listening to TOMMY this morning, this is so good and my favorite as well.
One i love too, is SELL OUT with all those great songs, Armenia City In The Sky, Tatoo, Odorono , all those forgotten gems.
WHO's NEXT suffers from overexposure and radio overplay...i mean i like the album but how many more times can i listen to WONT GET FOOLED AGAIN,..i know the song since it came out back then so too many listenings to my poor ears
 QUADROPHENIA is great too, but i am not eager to listen to it often.
 don't know why!.After that, this is all downhill.
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Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: August 27 2008 at 16:57
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Well i LOVE the Who, and you have right Febus Sell Out are a beatiful album, and i love the live version of Tattoo on the remaster Leeds album.
Tommy is a great album i haven't heard for a while but i like Undertune.
Who's Next i think that one is enough to mark to the Who to the olimpus of Rock, that album has great songs like My Wife, Bargain, I have Enough, Behind Blue Eyes and the aforemtioned Won't.
Quadrophenia is a really great and melancolic album don't you think, listen carefully to the title track, The Real Me, 5:15, Love Reing on me Dr. Jimmy, wow this albums rocks also!!!
The Who by numbers contains well and so so tracks, but i prefer to listen the unofficially live records of that era 1975.
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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: August 27 2008 at 23:06
| They are a great band. |
Posted By: Jozef
Date Posted: August 28 2008 at 02:10
| Excellent band with songs that are always stuck in my head. Too bad the tickets for their upcoming tour are so damn expensive. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: August 28 2008 at 02:20
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I'm a hardcore and faithful fan....But as a fan I wish they would had never been added.
I like to think of them as the kings of Rock not as Proto anything.
 They are the head of Rock not the tail of Prog, OMG, not even worth to be in a real sub-genre.
 Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: August 28 2008 at 02:43
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Nah, I disagree. The Who invented rock opera; who else in '66 was doing something like "Quick One While He's Away?"
Oh, and, they rock. Created the only album that could possibly lapse Thick as a Brick in my opinion (that being the great Quad). ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: August 28 2008 at 04:27
of course. proto-prog as term means nothing if The Who are not on that list. what anyway proto-prog (or prog related) music is, if TOMMY is not so....
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QTx8LSsph2o - http://youtube.com/watch?v=QTx8LSsph2o
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The Whistler wrote:Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: August 28 2008 at 04:43
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The Who by Numbers my personal favourite.
I am glad they are here regardless of genre. The music is what counts  ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: August 28 2008 at 04:50
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Posted By: dude
Date Posted: August 28 2008 at 11:24
hi all and thanks for the responses I actually posted this in general music discussions but it was moved here,i have never thought of the who as proto prog, just a straight out rock act. still i suppose thats not really important,they were just a damn good band!!!  |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 05:46
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I dont have everything by The Who, but generally I think they stand for everytghing that was good about 70's rock music. It was heavy, but with strong blues and prog elements. 'Who's Next' would rank very highly in my 'greatest rock album of all time' chart. Love every song.
I also think that Tommy and Quadrophenia are rock masterpieces. Specifically I love the vocal interplay between Daltry and Townsend. Two very different singers, who between them can take a song through a variety of very different moods, just by singing alternate parts. Daltry's agression works well alongside Townsends almost Gabriel-esque style. Baba O'Reilly is a good example, as is 'The Punk and Godfather' Townsend came up with classic riffs, and they were always underpinned with very 'melodic' basslines from Entwhistle, and the unmistakable manic drumming of Keith Moon. Great band! |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 09:27
The Who were my favourite band in the 70s and the first group I saw live. It's nice to see some appreciation for them on here  .
I think my favourite track by them is probably Baba O'Riley, from Who's Next.
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Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 19:36
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Been a big fan for three or four years. Stunning energy. In terms of favourite albums I guess Who's Next takes the nr.1 spot, even though it is kind of overplayed. Quadrophenia never really reached the same heights for me, although it remains a good album. I must feel it lacks the Who-iness too much . Deserves more appreciation: The Who Sell Out. An album that I love more and more as I get to know it better. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 19:36
exactly... that is why they were added there... they belonged there. They sure as hell weren't related. The Who did as much as the Beatles it can be argued to foster the climate that made progressive rock possible. Quadrophenia is a good... even great album...but this site doesn't judge quality... and 'related' ignores their true importance to rock.. it wasn't as their 'famous' incarnation as a stadium rocker in the 70's.. but their earlier albums.. which were simply groundbreaking mergers of art.. and rock by artists pushing edge of what rock music was.. Which as I've said probably a 1000 times really can be considered the answer to the age-old question around here as to what is prog. After you cut through the crap, the tools.. the means...rather than the REASON, and you get to the heart of what prog  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: August 30 2008 at 02:57
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i like Pete Townshend´s solo stuff so much, especialy his acoustic, live recorded as, for example, this one...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xpQQbFaj-k - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xpQQbFaj-k
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Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: August 30 2008 at 04:43
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Quad - "5:15" (1973)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qv6QTrWXN4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qv6QTrWXN4
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Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: August 30 2008 at 04:54
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I was lucky enough to see The Who twice when they played 2 gigs in as many years at Charlton Atheletic's football ground. They were absolutely amazing.I count myself fortunate to have seen Moony play with them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsFKWGlrze0 I also saw them when Kenney Jones was with them.They played Lewisham Odeon* (December 1980).It was the last gig at the venue and Daltrey,after the final song said, 'We won't be playing an encore and seeing as they will be pulling this place down soon,help it on it's way by trashing the place!', Liam Gallagher,eat your heart out! 
My one regret is not seeing them at Shepperton Studios when they played a 'private' gig that was filmed for the 'Kids Are Alright' film. A work collegue had tickets but it meant two people from the same department having the same day off which the manager wouldn't permit. 
*Lewisham Odeon was a fantastic venue.I saw some great gigs there including being taken to see the Charisma Six Bob tour which included Genesis,Lindisfarne and Bell & Arc (?).I can only remember seeing Lindisfarne.I was about 10 at the time. I also saw Deep Purple,Black Sabbath twice(on one occasion supported by Van Halen),Hawkwind,Status Quo,Rod Stewart and the Faces,Rory Gallagher,The Clash,Dexys Midnight Runners and the Two-Tone Package Tour which included Selecter,The Specials,Madness and a couple of others if memory serves me well. ------------- 
Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb. |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: August 30 2008 at 20:23
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Given my age, it's not really possible to judge The Who objectively, no more than I can judge The Beatles or the early Mothers objectively, since they were an ever-present part of my youth. Their albums are a virtual soundtrack to my younger days. Prog? Eh, maybe, here and there. The best pure rock band of the era? Probably. Live At Leeds, especially given the deluxe edition, is the best live album I've ever heard. |
Posted By: ANDREWM
Date Posted: September 02 2008 at 17:26
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I love the Who especially their power pop songs like '"I Can't Explain" and the The Kids are Alright". On the other hand let's not kid ourselves the Who were no way as influential as the Beatles. Examples (The Rolling Stones songwriting), (The Byrds and a whole mess of others going electric and Folk Rock) (The Byrds and the Who the 12 string electric guitar and last but not least prog acts like the Moody Blues, King Crimson, Pink Floyd and Pink Floyd were more indebted to the Beatles on what they were doing between Rubber Soul to Abbey Road. |
Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: September 02 2008 at 21:50
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I absolutley love "A Quick One" to death, but everything else is just average for me. It at one point was amazing to me, but it's gotten a bit dry over time. ------------- 
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Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: September 03 2008 at 02:31
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"dry "...????????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGEDpWCzGZA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGEDpWCzGZA
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Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: September 13 2008 at 05:13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPsJ7BilWLg - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPsJ7BilWLg
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Posted By: Albedo
Date Posted: September 21 2008 at 18:14
| "Live At Leeds" is an amazing live album, probably the best I've ever listened to. |
Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: September 23 2008 at 04:10
....and amazingly recorded too. when i´m listening to Live At Leeds i have some feeling as it was recorded in a very huge space, even at open air, beautiful "ambient"sound, although i know that´s very small space at Leeds University aswell.
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awesome "The Seeker" song (1970)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqHE7Ovrf3M - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqHE7Ovrf3M
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Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: September 24 2008 at 04:05
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thymb7xrZ44 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thymb7xrZ44 R.I.P., John Entwistle!
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Posted By: St.Cleve Chronicle
Date Posted: September 26 2008 at 08:43
| Sell out, Tommy and Who's next are brilliant albums, but I find Quadrophenia quite boring. |
Posted By: jimidom
Date Posted: September 26 2008 at 11:44
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The Who Sell Out, Tommy, Who's Next, Live At Leeds, and Quadrophenia are all essential rock albums, not just essential Who albums. What an impressive catalogue! ------------- "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." - HST |
Posted By: progvortex
Date Posted: September 30 2008 at 01:04
yeah I realize that when people ask me what bands I like, I rarely mention The Who. I probably just take them for granted at this point (much like the Beatles)- This is the stuff that got me into rock. And here I am listening to this crazy RIO/Avant-Garde stuff jeez what a journey. ------------- Life is like a beanstalk... isn't it? |
Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: October 11 2008 at 05:03
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Roger Daltrey -"Free me" ('McVicar' movie soundtrack promo video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3c9KPM2J-o - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3c9KPM2J-o
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Posted By: MargusKiisEstonia
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 12:07
| Cmon, guys, "Quick One, While`s he`s away" is first prog rock composition ever! |
Posted By: febus
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 12:20
Excellent album, this McVicar...i had the LP, don't know if it has ever been released on CD
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Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 17:23
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I don't know about this group... As much as I like pompous and grandiose things, I'm just not a rock music fan. Although "Eminence Front" is a very cool song. I don't know, maybe it'll be like Led Zeppelin where they have a handful of really awesome songs that I like. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Avantgardian |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 17:36
| I love most of their catalogue. I grew up with Who Are You(album), so it's normal for me to enjoy most their synth era, Face Dances and It's Hard are excellent albums. While their early era is brilliant, Who's Next, Quadrophenia and Tommy. While from their early early era, I enjoy quite a lot My Generation and A Quick One. |
Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 17:46
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Have to admit that Quadrophenia really surprised me. Wasn't Tommy's biggest fan (sort of meh on the leads and I felt the plot exposition didn't need to be that basic). However, Quadrophenia was a completely different story. Loved pretty much every second of it, superb leads as well as a much more impressive rhythm section, was really moved by the 'Love, Reign O'er Me' ending. I've actually ended up humming some of the songs. Glad I gave the band a second chance :) Favourite song, Love Reign O'er Me or Can You See The Real Me? |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 17:55
That's better
If you enjoyed that much Quadrophenia I highly recomend you to purchase the amazing Live at the Royal Albert Hall |
Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: October 28 2008 at 04:55
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two great songs at the same attitude but so different. the music structure of Love Reign O´er Me is, IMHO, an hymn in the classic meaning of that word, i mean not "only" one of The Who's athems, as The Real Me really is aswell. i can´t vote.
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Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: October 28 2008 at 05:03
also have LP, but i´m pretty sure that they issued McVicar on CD.
btw, my fav Daltrey´s album is One of The Boys.
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Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: October 28 2008 at 13:10
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: October 28 2008 at 13:33
You are right
..It's been reissued and guess what...i just ordered it |
Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: October 29 2008 at 07:18
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One of my earliest memories of rock music was watching a film of The
Who
perform 'Won't Get Fooled Again' on the documentary/concert film; The Kids Are All
Right . I couldn't have been much old then
11 or 12 years of age when I saw it and even now I get shivers that run
up and down
my spine at the moment where Townsend leaps into the air and then
lands, sliding
toward the camera in slow motion on his knees. At that
instant I thought 'Yes, that's what I want to do for a living!' It's one of the most defining images in rock as far as I'm concerned.  ------------- I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision. - Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill |
Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: October 30 2008 at 03:59
hey Febus, do you heard Daltrey´s Under A Raging Moon track (from that same titled a studio album) with Carl Palmer, Mark Brzezicki, Zak Starkey, Martin Chambers, Cozy Powell, who were playing drums on this track aswell as tribute to Keith Moon? awesome!
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Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: October 30 2008 at 04:16
in two weeks Live At Kilburn ´77 DVD will be issue. let´s imagine almost the whole gig filmed in the same style as TKAA versions of BOR and WGFA! red eyed Pete is sliding and doing other his stuff like that, Daltrey´s lasso microphone, that iconic image of John Entwistle and - that was last Moonie´s gig.
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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: October 30 2008 at 09:45
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Wow, I didn't know that zicly. Thanks for the tip and yes I will have to look out fot it.
------------- I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision. - Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill |
Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 06:02
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one month ago i bought my copy of Live at Kilburn '77 DVD and that is something best what i ever saw and heard. |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 06:03
Just try that at The Peel, Simon, I dare you.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 14:15
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Hi,
(Science Fiction time folks!!!)
I had an interesting moment that will go into my short stories ... and it goes like this ... please note that this is from a dream and is a part of my writings ...
I watched the recent outing a year or two ago that the Who did ... and there was a moment between songs that stood out for me ... in that moment, Roger looked at the microphone, and then looked down to the ground. Back to the microphone and then slightly upwards. He then grabbed the microphone and started singing. The Who was (still) alive.
In the dream sequence I asked him about that pause ... and Roger said "I'm tired. I don't want to do this stuff anymore."
A close friend was, and is, an avid Who fan and can play all of it on his guitar and then some ... and I think Pete Twonsend was his hero. When I showed him the bit he had a wonderful reply ...
(paraphrasing)
The Who, in many ways represented a more violent and repressed feelings that I had ... and they spoke for it beautifully. That expression was brutal to some ... and the music had it and Pete knew it ... and so did Roger and the others. In a way they represented something more free and expressive that we wanted ... and were not able to get ... or perhaps it was no longer meaningful or important any more ... so, seeing Roger saying that he didn't want to do it anymore, was not a surprise ... we grow older and as such our bodies no longer have the ability or the strength to fight as we once did ... and maybe the priorities have changed and it just is not as important any more.
But yes, as my friend said, and I hold it dear to my heart ... they did give us a slice of a time, that is very dear and special to me, and I credit them with helping define it within me ... I mean ... meet the new boss, same as the old boss ... is ever so much more clear today ... you add a little salt, and someone on a power trip ... and you get "The Office" ... and that was the very sh*t that folks like The Who ... were fighting ... and you and I hoped for an improvement ... and all we got was fired ... and today's music no longer has that depth and meaning ... sorry U2 ... the rest is all "popular music" ...
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: January 06 2009 at 15:12
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I love The Who, and Tommy is my favorite from them.
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Posted By: weetabix
Date Posted: February 15 2009 at 05:14
| What can I say about the Who? They are totally different from the Beatles The Stones etc. So I don't compare them w/ anyone they are in a class by themselves everything Rock is supposed to be, a touch of anarchy, good to dance to, and above all, fun. MoDs Rool. |
Posted By: ProgShine
Date Posted: February 15 2009 at 21:52
I agree completely, I'm not a huge fan, but The Who have a GREAT work in almost all albuns ------------- https://progshinerecords.bandcamp.com 
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: February 16 2009 at 09:08
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I love The Who. Especially Tommy and Quadrophenia.
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Posted By: Proggy Pogo
Date Posted: February 16 2009 at 16:47
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I used to love The Who when I was a kid in the 70s - well, I still like them now. Who's Next is a great album and I think Won't Get Fooled Again is probably their best track, although it's been ludicrously overplayed (along with Baba O'Reilly) by Manchester's Rock Radio Station, which plays the same tracks all the time. I also think Behind Blue Eyes and I Can See For Miles are great songs.
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Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: February 17 2009 at 14:42
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I'm stunned.
Firstly because "My Generation" was released in '65.
Secondly even more stunned when I realized that "I can't explain" was recorded just a month after Beatles' '64 October recording of "I feel fine". The Who released it a month before Yardbirds' "For your love".
Music was definitely progressing by the end of '64! And the Who was one of the main contributors.
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Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: February 23 2009 at 01:28
| my favs of these early The Who's tracks are Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere, and The Ox |
Posted By: AlexUC
Date Posted: April 22 2009 at 11:56
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Inventive, entertaining and sofisticated band. Quadrophenia and Tommy still my favorites, in that order. However, I still ask myself if they proto-prog or prog-related, since they have clear participation in both subgenres. While albums like Quadrophenia and Who's Next are related to prog, their earlier works are very much influential in the prog movement. I'm inclined to think they're a little bit more prog-related than proto-prog, but who knows, this is a complicated matter for sure... What do you guys think? Very glad to see them here indeed! ------------- This is not my beautiful house... |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: May 08 2009 at 11:13
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One of my favorite bands. ------------- 
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: May 08 2009 at 11:44
Nobody ever gives that one enough credit, that album is fantastic. As for me and my opinion of The Who, http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=129850 - I think this makes my point. ------------- 
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: May 13 2009 at 15:54
| Who's Next just arrived in my post (£3 was the price...) and I am going to delve in it during the week... |
Posted By: Morakthesage
Date Posted: June 12 2009 at 20:42
| The Who are amongst my favorite non-prog bands. They definatly put out some great albums starting with My Generation all the way through The Who by Numbers, and even Who's Next has some good moments. My favorite has to be Quadrophenia, with Who's Next very close behind. Although, I don't like Tommy as much as most people seem to. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 12 2009 at 20:46
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Exceptional Rock band: tremendous bass player, fierceful drummer, lovely, yet powerful singer, and a amazing song-writer. My faves: #1 Who Are You #2 Quadrophenia #3 Face Dances #4 Who's Next #5 My Generation |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 17:05
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Absolutely top-notch, cutting-edge rock band - I reckon they helped set the stage for Prog simply by going out there with that "Anything's possible because we want it to be" attitude combined with great musicianship. ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: SgtPepper67
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 10:43
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One of the greatest bands ever. My favourite albums: 1. Who's Next 2. Tommy 3. Who Sell Out 4. Quadrophenia 5. A Quick One ------------- 
In the end the love you take is equal to the love you made... |
Posted By: TheLastBaron
Date Posted: June 17 2009 at 00:59
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I love The Who. I got into them when I was a freshmen in highschool which was about eight or so years ago. For the longest time Kieth Moon was my favorite drummer. He's still in my top five but the number one spot currently belongs to Neil Pert : ) John Entwistle is an amazing bass player, Pete Townshend is a very talented and unique guitarist and song writer. Roger Daltry can really sing. I've always thought of the who as a very talented band that really developed a great sound and playing style, moon and entwistle are a very good rythm section. My favorite albums would be Whos Next, Tommy, Quadrophenia and Live at Leeds. Love the live versions of a quick one, tatoo, sparks and young man blues. ------------- " Men are not prisoners of fate, but prisoners of their own minds." - FDR |
Posted By: mr.cub
Date Posted: June 17 2009 at 19:26
Interesting choice with Face Daces as it is often forgotten.
I don't know if I've posted on this page before, but I have expressed my love for The Who frequently on other threads. To me, they have one of the most unique and identifiable sounds in rock music. Boundary pushing and to me the ultimate Art Rock group because they mastered both (Art and Rock) with such professionalism and proficiency it is simply stunning. Their evolution as a band saw the gradual and ultimate coexistence of the two terms.
My favorites (studio only)
1. Who's Next
2. Sell Out
3. Quadrophenia
4. Who are You
5. By the Numbers
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 17 2009 at 19:47
Well The Quiet One is in Face Dances, so you might have expected that Though by no means it's my fave song, songs like Did you Steal my Money? or Cache, Cache or You, they're just superb for me, John's bass is very in front which is something I love. By the way, the fact that it features a lot of keyboards is another highlight for me. So yeah, for me it's one fantastic album, the only stinkers are coincidentally or maybe ironic are the singles(You Better, You Bet and Don't Let Go the Coat, Daily Records may also be...) |
Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: June 17 2009 at 20:02
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The Who are my second or third favorite band. While I'm devoted to Pink Floyd as my #1 since I was ~13, Only Genesis is a serious challenger for my attention next to the Who. I'm perfectly willing to point out that the Who had a far more progressive vision at heart, at least in the person of Townshend, then Yes has ever relayed to me (even on Relayer!). Yes simply happened to be Symphonic. The Who to me are undeniably pulled into Mod-Rock and R&B, and later Hard Rock standard, but the orientation to Prog is almost obvious to me. Keith Moon and Daltry may not have been into this type of Music but the songwriters John and especially Pete were very convincingly heading progward at times. Anyone who wrote the Seeker, Who's Next and Quadrophenia would be considered a Prog Artist by me whether it was delivered as a solo violin piece or symphonic. I simply love the personalities of the bandmembers and their great solo output as well. Whistle Rhymes and Pete's stuff is great. |
Posted By: Sangria
Date Posted: June 17 2009 at 20:18
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The Who are one of those bands that, even though they are brilliant, I just can't get into emotionally. I need that, wether it's getting amped up for a workout or zoning out at sunset on the beach with a nice cold pitcher of............Sangria. I acknowledge that they are a great band, but I, personally don't get anything out of their music. ------------- 
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Posted By: mr.cub
Date Posted: June 17 2009 at 20:19
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Excellent points Pablo because I would say John's bass really came to the forefront more and more with each subsequent release after Who's Next. It was always ever present, but something happened with Quadrophenia (maybe the Thunderbird IV bass...I don't know) and his bass just developed into this three headed wonder. Likewise, Townsend began using the keyboard more (with the exception of By The Numbers) and the guitar gradually became less accentuated. Moon's death obviously led to more of this front and center basswork
 They are just more Rock oriented: that's all.-------------
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 17 2009 at 20:21
Yeah, definitely there's less guitar, but still don't get how Face Dances has a rating of 1.96!!! Soon will prepare my 4 stars review, and my 5 stars Who Are You review, stay in tune! |
Posted By: mr.cub
Date Posted: June 17 2009 at 20:24
Excellent call with Who Are You. A very refreshing album, can't wait for the review. I will have to get around to reviewing the Moon catalouge as I've only reviewed Tommy through Quadrophenia -------------
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 17 2009 at 20:27
Keep your reviews comin'! They're really good! Would like to see your opinion on Who Are You, Face Dances, and their early albums! (no pushing/pressure intended ) |
Posted By: mr.cub
Date Posted: June 17 2009 at 20:32
Alrighty. Now that I have no school until college in the fall I might just get back into the swing of writing reviews. I'm just very meticulous. Maybe I'll set my goal at one a week  -------------
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 17 2009 at 20:32
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Yes, but do they also have people fooled? Who are they? Who who who who who?
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 17 2009 at 20:33
That's okay, I sometimes don't write at all for 2 weeks, and then "Zas!" 3 reviews appear! and then more...  |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 17 2009 at 20:34
Who are you to call us fools? You fool no one! You are the fool! |
Posted By: mr.cub
Date Posted: June 17 2009 at 20:38
They fooled me at hello... -------------
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Posted By: ZowieZiggy
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 05:33
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The Who were part of my teenage days. I highly praised "Tommy", "Quadrophenia" and the superb "Live At Leeds" in the superb Deluxe double CD version (at the time of release, I only got the one vinyl LP).
Two years ago,I witnessed a concert form The Who (fourth row) and it was a very emotional evening. Great songs, great set, Pete & Roger happy to be there and close to the audience.
The whole concert hall was standing, dancing and singing during the superb "Won't Get Fooled Again". What a memorable moment! ------------- ZowieZiggy |
Posted By: Trianium
Date Posted: October 09 2009 at 05:17
| One of my favourite bands. I like so much albums like Who's Next, Who Are you, Quadrophenia and Tommy. |
Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: October 09 2009 at 05:27
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I always loved the Who, they were our best local band, though I regret that i was born too late to see them play in the Mod dives like the Oldfield or the Railway Hotel, though i knew a few who did. I was finally rewarded with a great show at Wembley two years ago and bought a DVD of the show -------------  Prog Archives Tour Van 
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 09 2009 at 07:43
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Well I've done most of my reviewing of this fantastic band (still waiting for Quadrophenia), but the Who is definitely the most prog of the big four of the 60's (Stnes, Beatles, Kinks and Who) ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: October 12 2009 at 10:31
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Just the other day, I heard We're Not Gonna Take It on the radio, and that prompted me to go back and revisit Tommy. Ihad pretty much tucked The Who away in the drawer of "bands I used to like and kind of cooled off on". But Tommy is a very, very good album, I seem to have forgotten why it's regarded as one of the classics of rock music. Of course, you can't beat Who's Next in my book, but Tommy and Quadrophenia? Both excellent.
As for being the most prog of the big 4? As a Beatles pseudo-fanboy, I kind of take offense to that.....
....but then I think about it, and you're totally right! ------------- "WAAAAAAOOOOOUGH! WAAAAAAAUUUUGGHHHH!! WAAAAAOOOO!!!" -The Great Gig in the Sky |
Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: October 12 2009 at 11:31
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Underture from Tommy is a masterpiece to me. Keith Moon sounds quite like Carl Palmer on this and that is a real plus. Not that he is trying to intentionally trying to produce a CP style, but his drumming is so progressive here that it is hard not to notice. Entwistle's french horn and Townshend's acoustic playing produce amazing results. I am really taken in by this piece. Tommy was the Who's progressive plateau it seemed. The Who Sell Out was just as monumental as Who's Next, just different in style and musical approach. I died inside the day that Who By Numbers was played on the radio in it's entirety. It no longer had the spark of Who craziness for me. Squeeze Box brought my hopes down of that ever happening again. I bought Who Are You in 79' and was discourged even more. It just didn't feel the same for me. Sometimes I got the impression in the early days, that they might have borrowed from the Kinks. Boris The Spider in particular reminds me of a song right from Village Green Preservation Society. I Can't Explain has a Kinks sound as well. Who's Sell Out and Tommy are both original in content. |
Posted By: TBWART
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 02:53
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The Who are amazing. And I believe they are progressive. More so than e.g. Uriah Heep and who know's who. Who could argue with that. Who's horse is in the hallway? ------------- ''progression is trying to eliminate boundries'' |
Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: October 23 2009 at 14:53
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An immense power is being released...
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 03 2009 at 09:55
Don't worry Ivàn,
I'd have rather seen them added in prog related along with Zep (which they beat in every dept), but I'm glad they're in PA, COS they deserve it FULLY!!!
One of the (or THE) most exciting drummer ever..........
 One of the bassist that rewrote the handbook of bass playing...... and adding all sorts of brass, which gave The Who a strange edge
One of the most amnitious songwriter and guitarist ever...... Maybe not the most virtuoso, but the man knew his fretboard well and pulled an occasional splendid solo
 one correct singer.... but probably the band's (relative) weaker link, but still a good singer
Not bad for a bunch of street fighting kids
Of the BIG FOUR of the 60's, they're clearly my preferred ahead (slightly) of the Beatles and chugging Kinks and Stones far behind.....
But their 70's works (including Tommy of late 69) are simply outstanding ...... They've done everything good except for By Numbers, which is clearly a void. .....
But in all fairness I wished they'd stopped at Moon's death and never reformed.......
I xould like to see one or two official live album releases from the 70's (outside the Leeds thing). ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: November 03 2009 at 16:15
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Just thought I'd mention that Quadrophenia is quickly creeping up there as my most played album ------------- http://blindpoetrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 03 2009 at 16:47
That's the point Sean, I don't believe anybody DESERVES to be here, they belong or don't belong here, but Prog Archives is not an award that anybody deseve.
There are terrible Prog bands that belong here and great non Prog bands that don't belong here.
I don't believe The Who belong here, but I can live with them in Prog Archives.
They are also my favorites from the big 4, with The Beatles far behind. The Stones for me are limeted to "Their Satanic Majesties Request" and the song "Paint it Black", nothinge else moves me.
Cheers
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: November 05 2009 at 02:42
Ivan makes a subtle and far too often overlooked distinction here which I endorse i.e. why should flawed prog be held in higher regard than very good plain vanilla rock music ? For me, both Quadrophenia and Tommy sound like a band clearly overreaching themselves, and although I applaud their ambition, daring and innovation, (isolated parts of both records are legitimately successful prog creations) it seems self evident that only Townshend would have had the requisite vision, stamina and ability to sustain such material further into the Who's future. Daltry, Moon and Entwistle just appear inhibited and uncomfortable on the proggier output. For this reason the routinely dismissed By Numbers is probably my favourite Who album and why ? because Townshend had reconciled himself to both his own and his collaborators limitations and proceeded thereafter to 'just' produce excellent rock music. (As if that wasn't sufficient ?) Pete Townshend is a brilliant songwriter first and a progressive instrumental composer second. ------------- 
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 05 2009 at 08:52
Good point.
I get really confused when some people say "Why do X band that is so good is not here?" They seem to believe that being in Prog Archives is like winning an Emmy and that only Prog bands are good. For God's sake, I won't even dare top compare "Starcastle" with "The Who", "Fleetwood Mac" or even "Boston" in quality, the three mentioned are better than a clone band that brought nothing new and only lived at the shadow of Yes.....But Starcastle are Prog and the others I don't believe so. Lets put things in it's place, great, good, average,. mediocre, bad and terrible Progressive Rock bands belong here....Excellent non Prog bands, no matter how great they are, don't belong here, because Prog Archives is not a certificate of quality, but a Progressive Rock database. Iván BTW: I believe the case of The Who is borderline, even when I don't agree with their inclusion, despite they are among my all time favourite bands, at least Tommy and Quadrophenia have some clear Prog elements. -------------
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Posted By: Gustavo Froes
Date Posted: November 05 2009 at 18:38
| Well,I guess the main problem with the 'prog-related' sub-genre(and probably the reason why it's so polemic in the site) is not knowing exactly what specific element in one's music makes it worth the tag.I agree about some clear prog references in Quadrophenia(not so much for Tommy).But is it enough to justify The Who's entire discography being included here?In therms of artisitc expression they were of undeniable importance in the late 60's,then again the slightest sign of proto-prog is very remote in albums like A Qucik One or Sell Out,although they were very 'progressive' in the sense of being mind-opening and technically controversial at the time. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 05 2009 at 19:10
In foirst place, remember I was againstt The Who being added when suggested, but once added, I had yto be honest and accept that at least two albums had some Prog Relation.
And according to Prog Archives, one album here = All the discography here.
Remember Miles Davis, the site added albums from 1945, almost 20 years before the first ssigns of Proto Prog appeared.
Kind of Blue from 1958, when there was no Prog was the most popular album of one week, sounds contradictory, but that's how the site acts, and we have to accept it.
Iván -------------
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 06 2009 at 07:16
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BTW, has Quadrophenia ever been remastered or is it still the old Fatboy double jewel case of the 80's???? ....
I've never seen it in a modern remastered packaging (although I have to admit never searching for it either) ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: ko
Date Posted: November 09 2009 at 09:37
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something amazing ...
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9jer9_roger-daltrey-the-song-is-over-1994_music - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9jer9_roger-daltrey-the-song-is-over-1994_music
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9jekc_roger-daltrey-imagine-a-man-1994_music - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9jekc_roger-daltrey-imagine-a-man-1994_music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flncHJmBVeg - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flncHJmBVeg
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Posted By: ko
Date Posted: November 14 2009 at 08:18
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this is pretty prog...a remix of The Who classic ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb7Ep48cJNQ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb7Ep48cJNQ |
Posted By: Xanthous
Date Posted: November 18 2009 at 21:09
| Never liked The Who. Most of their songs really bore me but once in awhile I'll find one that is decent. |
Posted By: ko
Date Posted: November 19 2009 at 06:39
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Pete Townshend was re- writing the whole Tommy for the movie. Some tracks are really amazing, e.g. this Acid Queen version (it's the film version, not short version on the original double lp soundtrack).
Just listen how part of 5:15 track (Quadrophenia), and amazing bass soloing by John Entwistle, meets Tina Turner's R'n'B and "spaceship"-like sound effects...Enjoy !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb167cc4ZeU - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb167cc4ZeU
PS ...or, the film version of "Pinball Wizard, where Elton John meets that intro of "I Can't Explain"--
----in this PW version --- as outro of the track!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZCwiNJ4wgo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZCwiNJ4wgo
To me, the holy trinity of the songwriters are Mr. Pete Townshend, Mr. Peter Gabriel and Mr. Alex Chilton.
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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: December 07 2009 at 10:32
I can understand that sentiment Xanthous.
For some reason The Who never really did it for me either. That is until I bought the Classic Albums DVD for Who's Next. I nabbed it as I wanted to know more about them.
I watched the DVD and everything just seemed to click. After all the years of saying 'Yeah...well I like some of their songs.' I suddenly found my way into the music. I think it had to do with seeing how Townsend and the band created their material. This wasn't stuff that was just thrown together on a whim. Pete carefully crafted material as an incerdible set of demos (a lot of which were often used on the finished product) and then he gave it to the band who added the muscle and the balls.
I am a convert.
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Posted By: ko
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 14:09
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Say It Aint So Joe< Roger Daltrey live with John Entwistle, Keith Moon and Jimmy McCulloch, 1977 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bVGTVrQd6M - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bVGTVrQd6M Pete Townshend >Magic Bus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfL4MlEIB4Q - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfL4MlEIB4Q
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Posted By: TheLastBaron
Date Posted: December 29 2009 at 17:07
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Classic band man, so good in so many ways. I love the who, was a huge fan starting in high school and still am. the schools marching band performed tommy in its entirety, all instrumentally and they did a standup job. the who is definitely one of those bands that is so influential and timeless in my opinion, all great musicians, very talented and unique.
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