What was the first review ever written for PA?
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Topic: What was the first review ever written for PA?
Posted By: Shakespeare
Subject: What was the first review ever written for PA?
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 22:14
Just out of curiosity. Anyone know? Maybe MAX or one the really old members know.
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 22:19
Cool question. And who were the very first prog reviewers?
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Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 22:55
Interesting question. Can anyone find one older than http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=1129 - this ?
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 01:01
ClemofNazareth wrote:
Interesting question. Can anyone find one older than http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=1129 - this ?
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You can hardly call it a review, though. 
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 08:01
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=1
...well, it's #1, at least.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 08:13
^ I had a similar idea, but it seems like the review ids were not generated sequentially. Or maybe the date shown on the review page shows the date when the review was last edited?
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 08:28
it isn't hdfisch's. I mean, maani wrote an earlier one, in 2004, hdfisch's is dated 2005.
Besides, Seance is added band #44xx. I should say the first review was made for one of the very first bands which to be added. The first band to be added was Genesis, so...
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 08:53
"Really old?"  
 In the face of silence from Max and Ron, and as the longest-serving PA forum member still active (I was the third person to join the forum, after "Dude" and Maani/Ian Alterman), I believe I can shed some light on this, if memory serves:
Over five years ago, I stumbled upon PA, quite by accident. At that time, there was no forum, but there was a guest book, which I (and Maani, and a few others) used to post in. PA was already a going concern Max and Ron purchased it as a pre-existing entity), and already featured reviews. Max and Ron were among the reviewers, as was, I do believe, one Eric Neutboom (sp?), who, I believe, wrote reviews semi-professionally, and had his stuff on the site (though not, I believe, written expressly for PA.
(I hope I am naming the right person -- I do know he had tons of reviews, and they used to flood in!)
I soon offered my services as a reviewer, and as one who could help with language issues (both owners are Francophones, and much of the site's text was in non-standard English), and when Maani noticed the "Prog Reviewer" title attached to my name and reviews, he asked me how I had gotten that "vaunted"  status. Soon he too was an official PA reviewer.
if you look at the list of PA Collaborators, the Reviewers are listed in the order in which they joined (thus I am near the top), but this later changed a bit to give "place of precedence" to those with administrative/moderating duties. Thus Maani appears right before me -- despite his becoming a PA Reviewer after me -- because he later became the forum's first Moderator. Still, reviewers are mostly listed in order of joining. You can then view an individual PA Reviewer's reviews chronologically, simply by selecting that option when viewing his or her list of reviews.
Here's a link to the first review I wrote, anyway. It dates from December 2nd, 2003 -- like all PA reviews, its exact submission date appears on it. You may notice that compared to those I later wrote, my early reviews were rather brief, and somewhat lacking in detail. (I later augmented many of those early efforts):
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=23257 - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=23257
Still, the best people to answer your question in more accurate detail are the owners, Max and Ron.
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 09:11
So does that mean, since your review came from December the 2nd, 2003, you joined PA then, but the joining date your profile shows of 31 1st of Jan is when you first began posting and thus, a member of the forum as such?
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 09:27
^ Yes Hughes, the difference in the dates simply reflects the fact that there was a PA, and PA Reviewers, before there was a PA Forum.
I would likely have "joined" PA (that is, started posting in the original guest book) some few days before writing that first review of mine. I guess I became an "official" Reviewer immediately prior to my submission of that review.
I was one of the first to strongly push for a forum, BTW, after Max had indicated the possibility of starting one, and sought input as to what features we might like to have added to the site. 
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 09:30
Ah, thanks for clearing that up Peter
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: June 19 2008 at 23:26
Peter wrote:
^ Yes Hughes, the difference in the dates simply reflects the fact that there was a PA, and PA Reviewers, before there was a PA Forum.
I would likely have "joined" PA (that is, started posting in the original guest book) some few days before writing that first review of mine. I guess I became an "official" Reviewer immediately prior to my submission of that review.
I was one of the first to strongly push for a forum, BTW, after Max had indicated the possibility of starting one, and sought input as to what features we might like to have added to the site.  |
Thank you for pushing for the forum, without it I don't know what I'd be doing right now...probably sleeping  .
I envy those who were first around when PA just started. You get the awesome user names...pretty much anything you'd like 
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: July 27 2008 at 06:24
So, basically, it's all Peter's fault!!
I could have been living a more productive lifestyle like watching Soap Operas or reading trashy magazines but for him!
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Posted By: dude
Date Posted: July 27 2008 at 09:26
I dont know what was the first review proper was,but there were certainly mini reviews (more opinions) within the forums themselves by the likes of Peter ,Jim Garten Dan Bobrowski ,Maani etc with appropriatly inane and incoherent responses from yours truly
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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: July 27 2008 at 09:58
dude wrote:
I dont know what was the first review proper was,but there were certainly mini reviews (more opinions) within the forums themselves by the likes of Peter ,Jim Garten Dan Bobrowski ,Maani etc with appropriatly inane and incoherent responses from yours truly |
Oh, a living legend posted
So, you were first to replay M@X in this thread.. http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2
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Posted By: dude
Date Posted: July 27 2008 at 10:08
wow i had forgotten about that,but i think i may have posted something a short time before that but im not sure.....memory dims with age you know!!
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: July 27 2008 at 11:09
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