Forum changes, your thoughts?
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Forum Name: Help us improve the site
Forum Description: Help us improve the forums, and the site as a whole
URL: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42962
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Topic: Forum changes, your thoughts?
Posted By: Easy Livin
Subject: Forum changes, your thoughts?
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 06:10
A thread for discussing the changes made to the forum layout today.
Feedback welcome!!
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 06:17
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 06:21
It seems like an improvement on what we had before, though I expect some people will have trouble in finding their way around the new structure.
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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 06:23
I like it, although it'll take some time to fully adjust to it.
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Posted By: sircosick
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 06:38
At the very begginin' I'm definately lost here .... but I'm sure it improvement will be for better... 
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Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 06:47
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 07:03
I prefer this format. It'll take some getting used to, but it's an improvement.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 07:23
Looks good to me. (I found the Grey Room again, so no worries )
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Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 10:16
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 11:39
It'll take some getting used, but nothing really shocking.
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Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 11:43
I like what you've done with the place! By the way, has anyone ever suggested having a "review(s) of the month" feature that would spotlight reviews that are particularly well-written or clever or insightful? It might draw a visitor's attention to the fact that this is more than just a site that lists albums and has an active forum. Just a thought.
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 11:48
Chicapah wrote:
I like what you've done with the place! By the way, has anyone ever suggested having a "review(s) of the month" feature that would spotlight reviews that are particularly well-written or clever or insightful? It might draw a visitor's attention to the fact that this is more than just a site that lists albums and has an active forum. Just a thought. |
I think it's a splendid idea. I'd also support a similar thing that we suggested for featured band/album etc.
But the featured review idea is a very good one and should be considered, I support this.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 11:50
avestin wrote:
Chicapah wrote:
I like what you've done with the place! By the way, has anyone ever suggested having a "review(s) of the month" feature that would spotlight reviews that are particularly well-written or clever or insightful? It might draw a visitor's attention to the fact that this is more than just a site that lists albums and has an active forum. Just a thought. |
I think it's a splendid idea. I'd also support a similar thing that we suggested for featured band/album etc.
But the featured review idea is a very good one and should be considered, I support this.
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The hardest part is choosing one, not that that should be a reason not to...
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Posted By: fungusucantkill
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 11:52
i miss my non prog music . or am i not looking hard enough...
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 11:52
The always coveted "reviewer of the month" plaque. Winner gets the parking spot closest to the internet.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 11:55
fungusucantkill wrote:
i miss my non prog music . or am i not looking hard enough... |
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=41 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=41
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 13:45
much better than expected...
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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 13:48
I don't know, i'm an in-betweener.
I'm not used to it, and it's a bit messy as a first impression. But i'll get used to it.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 14:14
Just when I found out where I should place my threads...
But at first glance seems pretty  . Much better than last time. 
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 15:39
I like it it's good to keep things fresh and experiment with the lay out a bit. I can see where the large block of prog music lounges could be somewhat confusing or overwhelming so that's the only thing I'd consider revising (ie. split it up somehow into more specific categories), in the interest of newer visitors (those of us who frequent the site will quickly get used to it).
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 15:43
avestin wrote:
Chicapah wrote:
I like what you've done with the place! By the way, has anyone ever suggested having a "review(s) of the month" feature that would spotlight reviews that are particularly well-written or clever or insightful? It might draw a visitor's attention to the fact that this is more than just a site that lists albums and has an active forum. Just a thought. |
I think it's a splendid idea. I'd also support a similar thing that we suggested for featured band/album etc.
But the featured review idea is a very good one and should be considered, I support this.
| wonderful idea, this would be a great way to draw more attention to the many quality reviews here, and we could also make the featured album/band something a bit obscure to help people discover some new things - not entirely different to what Assaf has been doing recently in the Recs section.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 27 2007 at 00:07
pretty cool... a thumbs up from me for what it's worth..
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: October 27 2007 at 00:15
It's good, like a defrag. Consolidating the subheads was a good idea.
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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: October 27 2007 at 04:18
I'm not really a fan, but I'm sure I'll like it more after a while. And I can't blame you for trying to shift things up a bit.
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: October 27 2007 at 09:35
Don't care -- seems okay.
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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: October 27 2007 at 09:47
I find myself frequenting the search button. Familiarity comes easy though.
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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: October 27 2007 at 11:37
Fine with me - I always go through the Active Topics page, so I'll be able to find what's interesting regardless of the organisation.
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Posted By: Kid-A
Date Posted: October 27 2007 at 11:39
Personally I think there are way too many sub-forums. Is it necessary to have a different sub-forum for lists, a different sub-forum for appretiation etc etc?
I also think that the Discussions Not related to music section should be moved higher up the list.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: October 27 2007 at 16:52
forum_topics.asp?FID=79 - Top 10's and lists
^ the apostrophe after 10 is not grammatically correct. 
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Posted By: jikai55
Date Posted: October 27 2007 at 22:28
I just think that there are waaaay too many forums. Very hard to navigate around.
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: October 28 2007 at 05:26
Apostrophe removed Stoney.
The number of forums sections has only increased slightly. The objective is to ensure that topics do not die too quickly by being pushed down the page. The level of activity in the forum is such that a topic can end up on the second page of a section within hours.
Thanks for all the feedback though, we'll keep an eye on things. If a section isn't working, we'll react to it.
As has been mentioned the "Active topics" facility is always the best way to make sure you are aware of what is going on.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 28 2007 at 06:53
I like the fact that the proto and related prog category doesn't stand in the prog forums anymore. Maube it'll help understanding some eggheads that they shouldn't always grapple and gurgle when a band is added to those categories
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: October 28 2007 at 10:22
stonebeard wrote:
forum_topics.asp?FID=79 - Top 10's and lists
^ the apostrophe after 10 is not grammatically correct. 
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Actually, Andrew, the use of an apostrophe to pluralize capital letter or number "words" like CD, ABC, 80 or 10 is optional, and quite common. I don't use them myself (I just add a lower-case "s," as in CDs or 80s music), but if you look up the rules for apostrophe use in the style guide of a good dictionary like the Random House Webster's Concise Dictionary, you'll see that you CAN use them for this purpose, to make it clear that the "s" is not another part of the abbreviation or number "word."
So there was no need to change it, Bob. 
Back to the original topic, I wasn't trying to be mean or petty in my earlier post. It's just that the changes seem pretty unobtrusive, and don't seem to affect me at all.
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: October 28 2007 at 16:16
Cheers Peter, not worth changing back now since it's still acceptable!
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Posted By: misterkeyboard
Date Posted: October 28 2007 at 16:25
I think this site would be better of if people would decrease their image sizes that they are using as their signature. It's very hard to read and follow what people are writing when there are big pictures everywhere. Just a thought..
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 28 2007 at 16:54
^ I use adblock to block all signature images as I find it much harder
to follow the flow of the thread with them. A strict limit on size (both dimensions and k) is warranted.
I traditionally prefer
that quotes -- from other posters - be used fairly sparingly too,
especially since it breaks up the flow of discussion, and it takes
longer to browse the page when big quotes are used. Other quoting
styles are too often nitpicky (context and point can be lost). Of course quotes are handy, but I feel that they are often used too much, and too often break up the conversation (I prefer that threads evolve from one post to the next to some extent while also referring back to the initial post).
As for the fora, I like them. I would like a Prog Forum specifically
for discussing Prog bands (as particularly considered prog by pretty
reliable sources) not yet in the archives, but bands/ artists that one
isn't formally suggesting for inclusion (as there is a formal
suggestion process that one may not be able to follow through with).
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: October 28 2007 at 18:17
Best still to use that forum Logan. There is no obligation to follow through the proposal to an addition, and you may inspire someone else to do so.
That section has a higher profile now too.
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Posted By: Gamemako
Date Posted: October 29 2007 at 03:04
Although I like the reduction of headers, I think we have twice as many sections as we need. 31 is just too many. Consolidate ones like prog events and prog news and news from suppliers.
(It's strange being the one suggesting consolidation for once. I'm usually on the other side.)
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: October 29 2007 at 13:31
Peter wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
forum_topics.asp?FID=79 - Top 10's and lists
^ the apostrophe after 10 is not grammatically correct. 
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Actually, Andrew, the use of an apostrophe to pluralize capital letter or number "words" like CD, ABC, 80 or 10 is optional, and quite common. I don't use them myself (I just add a lower-case "s," as in CDs or 80s music), but if you look up the rules for apostrophe use in the style guide of a good dictionary like the Random House Webster's Concise Dictionary, you'll see that you CAN use them for this purpose, to make it clear that the "s" is not another part of the abbreviation or number "word."
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I usually tend to do what I suggested originally, unless it seems confusing without the apostrophe. It seems to imply possession wih the apostrophe, so I avoid it whever logical. 
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Posted By: misterkeyboard
Date Posted: October 29 2007 at 18:12
Logan wrote:
^ I use adblock to block all signature images as I find it much harder
to follow the flow of the thread with them. A strict limit on size (both dimensions and k) is warranted.
I traditionally prefer
that quotes -- from other posters - be used fairly sparingly too,
especially since it breaks up the flow of discussion, and it takes
longer to browse the page when big quotes are used. Other quoting
styles are too often nitpicky (context and point can be lost). Of course quotes are handy, but I feel that they are often used too much, and too often break up the conversation (I prefer that threads evolve from one post to the next to some extent while also referring back to the initial post).
As for the fora, I like them. I would like a Prog Forum specifically
for discussing Prog bands (as particularly considered prog by pretty
reliable sources) not yet in the archives, but bands/ artists that one
isn't formally suggesting for inclusion (as there is a formal
suggestion process that one may not be able to follow through with).
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Where can I find adblocks? It is really interesting to get rid of those images.
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: October 31 2007 at 16:41
Well, it`s a bit confusing. Sometimes I forget where something is that I`ve responded to. Too many sub-sections. Wonder what this site will look like in 2050?
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 13:58
I think it's great as it emphasizes the prog music content zones, and there are more specified areas. Thanks!
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