ELP! I need somebody, ELP.
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Topic: ELP! I need somebody, ELP.
Posted By: The Whistler
Subject: ELP! I need somebody, ELP.
Date Posted: August 30 2007 at 02:58
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Yes friends, today was the day that Emerson and Lake first shot those damn cannons over everyone's heads...I think. Wait, by the time I finish posting this, it will have been Yesterday, and the Beatles references never end... Oh well. Does anyone actually understand this? This was the day of "the first ever debut performance of Emerson, Lake and Palmer!" I still love that sloppy version of "Pictures." ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
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Posted By: pero
Date Posted: August 30 2007 at 07:57
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I have DVD before Pictures, somwhere in England. They are playing staff only from their first album. I don't know which is your version?
But anyway this was their first recorded gig even before first album was out.
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: August 30 2007 at 08:07
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Well The Whistler, it could have been HELP, Jimi Hendrix had plans to join the trio
so imagine: HELP performing Pictures At An Exhibition on the Isle Of Wight Festival!
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: August 30 2007 at 11:05
| Wasn't HELP just a joke? |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: August 30 2007 at 11:18
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Help by The Beatles was a joke
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: August 30 2007 at 13:47
Did you not notice them playing "Pictures" on this? ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
pero wrote:Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: August 30 2007 at 16:14
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Nope, that's mine. DVD on one side, CD on the other. It has, lemme think..."Picture," "Pebble," "Rondo" and a version of the "Nutrocker" that somehow sounds a little out of place (poor recording quality, as comapared to the others). ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: pero
Date Posted: August 31 2007 at 02:37
I dont have this DVD. I have this 3:
 http://www.amazon.com/Masters-Vaults-Emerson-Lake-Palmer/dp/B0001AD56K/ref=pd_sxp_f_i/002-4036071-4067254"> http://www.amazon.com/Emerson-Lake-Palmer-Royal-Albert/dp/B00005QBZN/ref=pd_sxp_grid_i_2_0/002-4036071-4067254"> http://www.amazon.com/Masters-Vaults-Emerson-Lake-Palmer/dp/B0001AD56K/ref=pd_sxp_f_i/002-4036071-4067254 -
- http://www.amazon.com/Emerson-Lake-Palmer-Royal-Albert/dp/B00005QBZN/ref=pd_sxp_grid_i_2_0/002-4036071-4067254 - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B0001AD56K/ref=dp_image_0/102-0862256-4168939?ie=UTF8&n=130&s=dvd -
http://www.amazon.com/Masters-Vaults-Emerson-Lake-Palmer/dp/B0001AD56K/ref=pd_sxp_f_i/002-4036071-4067254 - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B0001AD56K/ref=dp_image_0/102-0862256-4168939?ie=UTF8&n=130&s=dvd -
- http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B0001AD56K/ref=dp_image_0/102-0862256-4168939?ie=UTF8&n=130&s=dvd - |
Posted By: oroboross
Date Posted: November 10 2007 at 12:20
| I have a question. When BSS came out in '73 or whenever it was, the 1st song that our rock station played here in the Philadelphia Pa. U.S. area was the title track, BSS. It is not the same version as on Works 2. Does anybody know of, or have this version? I saw someone on this sight did a review of a flexidisc that had it on it. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 10 2007 at 12:41
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[Special Collaborator Italian Prog and Art Rock Specialist] Posted 2:42:53 PM EST, 6/17/2006 
Well.. after a long break from reviewing... time to get back in the saddle hahahLADIES AND GENTLEMAN... PLEASE WELCOME FOR THEIR FIRST DEBUT PERFOMANCE...EVER EMERSON...LAKE...AND...PALMER of course we know it wasn't the true debut but...this is what exploded Emerson Lake and Palmer to the forefront of progressive rock. This is a recent release from Eagle Vision that is a single double sided CD disk. The first side is a portion of their landmark 'debut' performance at the Isle of Wight August 29, 1970. The first side of the disk contains a full version of their interpetation of Mussorgsky's 'Pictures at an Exhibition'. An edited performance of Take A Pebble, a typical incendiary performance of Rondo, and their typical show closer: Nutrocker. A great listen if you don't have a copy of the full performance, since this album is easily and readily available in stores today. The sound quality is excellent. Recommended if a first time exposure to this show. The second side is what makes the album worth the few stars I'm going to give it. The second side is a DVD that contains a new film with a synopsis of the group.. their beginnings and some great insight into their creative thoughts and inspirations. The section on The Moog, and Augmenting the music are especially interesting. This film incorporates the Murray Lerner film that was shot of the group performing at the Isle of Wright. Anyone familiar with his previous films out on the market.. The Jethro Tull and Message to Love DVD's will know that at times crowd shots are interspaced into the music. Take a Pebble is a particular waste unless you want to see dirty hippies bathing at the beach..picking up...pebbles hhahahha. The two standouts are the INCREDIBLE perfromance of Mussorgsky.. complete with the infamous cannons and Rondo of course...knives and Carl Palmer drum solo included. Though the Masters from the Vault (Beyond the Beginning) DVD versions of Rondo are better. All in all, I gained some more insight into what I feel is a fascinating and completely essential band in the annuls of progressive rock. 4 stars for personal enjoyment... 2 stars for the the forum at large. You will learn more about ELP with this, but it's not essential. Micheal (aka Micky) ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Tarkus31
Date Posted: November 11 2007 at 23:05
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I know what you're talking about. I've never heard the Ise of Wight debut, but I have a dvd of a show they did a few days before, and its amazing. I think its called Masters From The Vaults. Has about 5 songs on it, and random 'special effects' usually of water boiling or some spiral effect. Anyway, the playing is amazing, and in the middle of Take A Pebble Greg Lake cuts into Old Blue where he usually did either Lucky Man or Still You Turn Me On as a solo acoustic spot. And for some reason, Carl Palmer comes out with finger cymbals and they end the song together. Made me laugh. Anyway, I highly recomend checking it out. Anyway, most people I know have never listened to prog, or heard of ELP, and the cannon thing is one of the stories about ELP that I tell them. Along with Keith's spinning piano at the California Jam. ------------- ~~~Brian~~~ "And if we all did the things we knew to be right, left would be the childish fears of danger in the night." -Graeme Edge |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 11 2007 at 23:08
hahhaha.. oh the spinning piano was just so... prog you deserve two clappies for that  ahh ..what the hell have another clappie for being an ELP fan.. we don't get enough love here ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Tarkus31
Date Posted: November 11 2007 at 23:12
Finding another ELP fan is next to impossible! So you get more!
 And ELP is my favorite band, so I dont find many people who agree with me on that, or even know who ELP even are. ------------- ~~~Brian~~~ "And if we all did the things we knew to be right, left would be the childish fears of danger in the night." -Graeme Edge |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 11 2007 at 23:16
 thanks... I love clappies  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: November 12 2007 at 04:27
Count me in! I am another proud ELP fan, who last year was so lucky as to witness a cracking live performance by Keith Emerson at London's Astoria Theatre. I really don't understand how some people can praise DT to high heaven and at the same time bash ELP mercilessly ...
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 12 2007 at 04:31
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Hmm, why does this topic title seem so familiar... ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Tarkus31
Date Posted: November 12 2007 at 11:14
I would kill to see KE, but he's not touring the US anytime soon. But my spirits are high as Carl Palmer is doing a US tour for both his band as well as Asia. ------------- ~~~Brian~~~ "And if we all did the things we knew to be right, left would be the childish fears of danger in the night." -Graeme Edge |
Posted By: oroboross
Date Posted: November 12 2007 at 16:26
| I last saw them in '97 and they were great. It was an old theater and Keith brought the roof down litterally while doing the solo at the end of Lucky Man. I was to see them again while on tour with Deep Purple and Dream Theater which would have been a dream concert had they not cancelled it when I got to my seat. I have been a fan of ELP since the 1st album. Seen them 4 or 5 times and hope to see them again. |
Posted By: Tarkus31
Date Posted: November 12 2007 at 19:52
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Yeah, ELP tours were a little before my time. I could have gone in the ninties, but I had no idea who ELP were until a few years ago when I got into prog. ------------- ~~~Brian~~~ "And if we all did the things we knew to be right, left would be the childish fears of danger in the night." -Graeme Edge |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 13 2007 at 03:57
| Slightly off topic but I saw The Carl Palmer Trio recently and they are now performing the whole of Pictures At An Exhibition (minus vocals obviously). Carl is still the greatest powerhouse prog drummer IMO. |
Posted By: Tarkus31
Date Posted: November 13 2007 at 08:24
The CP band is doing a tour of the US in 2008, and I'm excited and hoping they come near me.
How is their version of Pictures? ------------- ~~~Brian~~~ "And if we all did the things we knew to be right, left would be the childish fears of danger in the night." -Graeme Edge |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 14 2007 at 10:29
They try to play it as close to the original album as possible you will be pleased to know including the complex Baba Yaga sections that are on side two.Its a real treat!
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 14 2007 at 10:30
that just sold me... my favorite parts of the whole ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Tarkus31
Date Posted: November 14 2007 at 19:13
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Well, needless to say, I'll be going to see the Carl Palmer Band on their next tour. ------------- ~~~Brian~~~ "And if we all did the things we knew to be right, left would be the childish fears of danger in the night." -Graeme Edge |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 14 2007 at 19:19
I would really like to see them as well.... might invite Prog Sylvie with me .. just so I can meet Carl. She always seems to meet him hahahha 
I don't think Carl would remember.. of course he
wouldn't....but I spoke to him online several years ago. Hell of
a nice guy. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Tarkus31
Date Posted: November 14 2007 at 23:12
I met Carl during the Asia tour last year. He and Geoff Downes were signing autographs after the concert. Carl was incredibly nice and seemed very interested what I had to say in the ten seconds I talked to him. He commented on my age (I was 18 at the time) and we laughed about how my dad "forced" me to listen to Asia. It suprised me how nice he was. I didnt really expect a world class musician to be that nice and down to earth, but from what I've heard, Carl is like that, just a really nice guy. ------------- ~~~Brian~~~ "And if we all did the things we knew to be right, left would be the childish fears of danger in the night." -Graeme Edge |
Posted By: lightyearday
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 07:47
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Hi Every one
first post on the site - i'm so jassed to see so many like minded peeps in here.
anyways; with all the hoohah regarding 'will YES tour or won't they" and with Emo playing with Chris Squier at the Led Zep gig this year , I am thinking the timing is perfect for Chris and Emo to get together formaly , either with Alan White or better yet Carl Palmer and put something together.
Imagine Emerson Squire and Palmer - ESP.
in Emo's book he says he asked Chris at the same time as asking Greg...
come on guys make ESP happen!
good to meet y'all
Graham ------------- If you like the music of Rick Wakeman and ELP go to www.myspace/grahambholley - www.myspace/grahambholley |
Posted By: andu
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 07:50
The news say it won't happen that soon. ------------- "PA's own GI Joe!" 
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Posted By: Tarkus31
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 16:51
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I heard Jimmy Page broke his finger, so they delayed the gig until December, so with that, Rick Wakeman cant play with them because he had a prior engagement he has to be at. But still, Keith Emerson, Chris Squire and Carl Palmer would be great, but not as great as a ELP reunion. A mutual reunion, as Keith and Greg have some issues. ------------- ~~~Brian~~~ "And if we all did the things we knew to be right, left would be the childish fears of danger in the night." -Graeme Edge |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 16:53
damn right ..... *untucks shirt* ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Tarkus31
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 13:32
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I still think an ELP reunion would be better, but I doubt that will happen. ------------- ~~~Brian~~~ "And if we all did the things we knew to be right, left would be the childish fears of danger in the night." -Graeme Edge |
Posted By: lightyearday
Date Posted: November 20 2007 at 05:14
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I think GL took great huffness at some of the things that saw the light of day in Emo's book. but you know, "live by the sword die by the sword" and all that.
any way cos of that , i just don't see E&P back with an L any time soon.
well ,unless its lumbago!
:O) ------------- If you like the music of Rick Wakeman and ELP go to www.myspace/grahambholley - www.myspace/grahambholley |
Posted By: Lady In Black
Date Posted: November 20 2007 at 10:53
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I've recensed these two ELP and related albums:
I love all Emerson project, clear! ------------- It's dark... I've fear... I have strong pains... A serpent is being born... That badly I did, I? |
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=139043 - EMERSON LAKE & PALMER (ELP) - Pictures at an Exhibition Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 21 2007 at 03:06
I'd rather see Emerson, Wetton and White - EWW! ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: November 22 2007 at 04:22
Because Emerson, Geddy Lee & Portnoy ... Always ELP!!! ------------- 
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 23 2007 at 12:22
I'm pleased to see Honky receiving positive reviews.A bit of a move away from the bombastic sound of ELP to a more relaxed approach from Keith.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 24 2007 at 22:44
or the ultimate prog whore himself... Tony Levin ..have cash.. will play with anyone... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: ArtRockFreak
Date Posted: November 25 2007 at 19:00
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I have listened to hundreds of prog groups,but ELP probably still remain my favourite.. I don't think i ll ever have the chance to see ELP or Keith Emerson live,especially here in Greece... Nevertheless,i am glad there are so many rare bootlegs of this band available(like the manticore one or the PAAE).I ve just finished Emo's biography,a really interesting piece ,which i recomend  ...------------- Welcome back my friends... 
...to the show that never ends! |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 25 2007 at 19:05
those Manticore bootlegs are worth every penny spent for them.. .love them helll have a couple more clappies.. we don't have enough ELP fans here.. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: November 25 2007 at 21:35
I'd better go tell Ivan and Erik...things could get ugly.
*notices a stray Hammond flying overhead...ducks to avoid whirlwind of daggers and persian rugs* oh, the humanity! ------------- Signature Writers Guild on strike |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 25 2007 at 22:25
hahahhahah.... yeah.. that will be the day... I said we don't have enough fans
but we don't want have too many and descend to Genesis level and
have average prog albums hailed by their fans as masterpieces of
prog rock hhahahha. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: November 25 2007 at 22:41
 must resist baiting....must resist
I'll pretend you mean the 3-man era...average is not a word to be used in any sentence containing the words Hackett and Genesis.
okay an armadillo tank is more badass than a flower costume I'll give you that...but you better watch out for Cynthia... ------------- Signature Writers Guild on strike |
Posted By: Tarkus31
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 19:41
You forgot a spinning drumset and a rotating piano. :) ------------- ~~~Brian~~~ "And if we all did the things we knew to be right, left would be the childish fears of danger in the night." -Graeme Edge |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 19:43
hahhahaha... oh why fight it... maybe I"m just a prog-poser here... but outside of SEbtP... I don't hear anything that really is above average, especially when you look across the prog spectrum. Can't argue that people love them... and love them they do... like taking an album like Nursury Cryme.. with 3 'established' great songs... and rating it.. as 220 reviewers did.. as a Essential Masterpiece of Prog.. it just smells of.. well .. it smells to me ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 19:47
and the carpet roadie.. the karate instructors..... a symphony orchestra? ... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: November 27 2007 at 01:23
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^damn those guys carried a lot of baggage! I guess that's why we love 'em...but c'mon, was the friggin' rug really necessary? And what is this you say about karate instructors? Good God. ------------- Signature Writers Guild on strike |
Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: November 27 2007 at 01:32
That album took a feeling Itchycock hinted at and went to the next level with it. People have the same problem here that they have with Selling England, the short songs don't "do it"...but I'd be lying if I said they don't work perfectly at bridging those longer pieces while keeping the dark victorian mood. And Harold the Barrel is mighty impressive commentary from a 21 year old...and I don't see why Seven Stones isn't held in the same regard as the other three long tracks, the use of build up from verse to chorus is a prog trademark.
I do understand how it can be annoying to see people drooling all over stuff that doesn't appeal to you though...there's that one metal band that plays reeeaaalll fast...oops, never mind...  ------------- Signature Writers Guild on strike |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 27 2007 at 01:35
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While I acknowledge that the best of Genesis is better than the best of ELP, I also must admit that ELP finds itself on my personal playlists far more often. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: November 27 2007 at 01:51
I concur. Genesis may be my "favorite" band, but I'm addicted to ELP...something about Emo wigging out on any one of about 10,000 keyboards appeals to me no matter what mood I'm in 
(plus, you can always count on Tocatta or Three Fates to clear out a room of annoying people )------------- Signature Writers Guild on strike |
Posted By: Tarkus31
Date Posted: November 27 2007 at 23:08
As a die hard ELP fan, I know about the orchestra and karate instructors, but I havent heard anything about a carpet roadie. Fill me in? ------------- ~~~Brian~~~ "And if we all did the things we knew to be right, left would be the childish fears of danger in the night." -Graeme Edge |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: November 27 2007 at 23:50
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For all you ELP fans out there I'd like to mention that Works Volume II has some really cool stuff on it, yet it gets a gratuitous write off due to the tedium of Works Vol I. Read some of the more positive reviews for more info.
The early version of ELP is a truly unique band with its own take on rhythm, harmony, compostition etc. They are like a lot of early progressive rock bands, out on a limb and taking crazy chances, when they are bad they are awful, but when they are good ... |
Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: November 28 2007 at 09:46
I love the short songs on those early Genesis albums, personally. I think every Genesis album from 'Nursery Cryme' through 'A Trick Of The Tail' is 5 star worthy; I can't think of any other prog band I feel quite that way about (Yes come closest but I have to concede that TFTO I find too flawed to give 5 stars too, though I do enjoy it). I'll never see them as average; even on their 80s albums there are some real gems, IMHO. To be frank, I'd take a lot of their 80s work over the vast majority of highly touted modern symphonic prog/prog metal bands.  The songwriting is in another league to stuff like Kaipa and Glass Hammer, IMHO.
To get back to ELP, they are the most unfairly lambasted band in prog, IMHO. I don't go a bundle on anything they did from 1977 onwards (with the one exception of the Emerson, Lake and Powell album) but from 1970-3, their output is pretty much uniformly superb (save some of the 2nd side of 'Tarkus' and 'Benny The Bouncer', IMHO). A local book shop has a copy of Edward Macan's 'The Endless Enigma' and he makes a very impassioned plea for reappraisal in there. Their main 'crime' was not adhering to the standard 'blues orthodoxy', it seems. I did read a wonderful review on a non-prog site of their anthology where it said we could really do with a band like ELP who were larger than life and very bold at the moment. Certainly, in the UK the mainstream music scene is an absolute cesspit of rubbish, IMHO. I can scarcely think of another period where so many bands have sounded the same (Libertines/Coldplay/Arctic Monkeys clones).
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Posted By: Tarkus31
Date Posted: November 29 2007 at 13:46
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I think that was part of the greatness of ELP. They took things to a new level, and did stuff no one else did or thought of doing. ------------- ~~~Brian~~~ "And if we all did the things we knew to be right, left would be the childish fears of danger in the night." -Graeme Edge |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 30 2007 at 12:25
I hope Muse is not considered 'mainstream' then
 ELP's crime was probably to enjoy themself too much. They didn't die for their art and didn't spend endless hours in live performance staring at their feet like so many so called 'serious' artists do.ELP were pretentious admittedly and thats what critics dwell on ,conveniently ignoring the fact thats lots of mainstream acts were/are equally pretentious.
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Posted By: Tarkus31
Date Posted: November 30 2007 at 18:50
You're so right. If you watch a video of an ELP concert, you can tell they are having so much fun doing what they were doing. Heck, you can tell from just listening to them play live. ------------- ~~~Brian~~~ "And if we all did the things we knew to be right, left would be the childish fears of danger in the night." -Graeme Edge |
Posted By: lightyearday
Date Posted: December 03 2007 at 07:49
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ELP are played at some point every day in my house/car/ipod.
to me they are/were enthusiastic, inventive and original. I'd even say 'Love Beach ( no - keep reading!!) has some good points. 'Canario' is quite superb!
I never really got why they were so lambasted by the press or seen as over the top. i tthink this is a myth -if you see any videos or pictures, it wasn't any more over thr top than YES, The Who, or whoever else you care to mention from the same era. I think the genesis ( ho ho) of the lions share of this immpression appears to have been hinted to in Emos book. they didn't get along with the press or many other bands.
I think ELP's crime was they were sussessful with little obviouls hard work ( in their ELP incarnation - i don't doubt they paid their dues in The Nice, King Crimson and TCWOAB) and you know how we in the UK hate success - especialy that of one ( or three) of our own and especialy world wide success.
oh how i'd love them to kiss and lake up and do one last tour! ------------- If you like the music of Rick Wakeman and ELP go to www.myspace/grahambholley - www.myspace/grahambholley |
Posted By: Tarkus31
Date Posted: December 03 2007 at 20:57
In conjunction with your post, in KE's autobiography, he claims the same thing as why the critics hated them. He claims they were too good. Im not sure if I believe that 100%, but they WERE good at what they did. So I dont know if its ego talking or truth though. ------------- ~~~Brian~~~ "And if we all did the things we knew to be right, left would be the childish fears of danger in the night." -Graeme Edge |
Posted By: lightyearday
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 07:10
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yeah i mean if you look at the live video of 'Pictures,' it's pretty basic stuff. i mean b they had a couple of connons at Ilsel of wight so what. i'm sure the Who and Jimi did some of their art destruction at the same event.
and they later had a couple of armadilloes. hmmm not very rock and roll for sure. but no worse than inflatable dinasuars. oh they used an orchestra! em.. Metallica any one ?
all in all i don't see why Pink floyd get lauded for doing even more ott stuff and producing arguably lesser works.
it's enough to make you go off in a big sulk !
hrmph!
( and aleast no one dressed as a big bloody daisy!) ------------- If you like the music of Rick Wakeman and ELP go to www.myspace/grahambholley - www.myspace/grahambholley |
Posted By: lightyearday
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 07:11
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oh, and sorry for all the typos - i'm bored tired and at work on a sunday morning !!!!!
zzzzzzzzz ------------- If you like the music of Rick Wakeman and ELP go to www.myspace/grahambholley - www.myspace/grahambholley |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 12:28
hahahhaa.. nothing like sleeping on the job.... hopefully you aren't an ATC or something.. oh by the way... take it from one revels in speed typoing ... you can edit typos ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Tarkus31
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 21:32
I think its because ELP wasnt as mainstream as The Who or Floyd, so it was looked down upon more because they were already pretty different from the mainstream stuff, even though from what I understand, prog rock was pretty mainstream in the 70's. ------------- ~~~Brian~~~ "And if we all did the things we knew to be right, left would be the childish fears of danger in the night." -Graeme Edge |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 21:33
Ouch!! |
Posted By: Teh_Slippermenz
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 22:18
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ELP? ELP??? http://youtube.com/watch?v=x7KwyzC7Ao8 - |
Posted By: lightyearday
Date Posted: December 10 2007 at 07:30
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ha ha :O)
no, like Captain Picard once said, "If we are to be dammed, lets be dammed for who we are!"
spelling mistakes and all! ------------- If you like the music of Rick Wakeman and ELP go to www.myspace/grahambholley - www.myspace/grahambholley |
Posted By: Tarkus31
Date Posted: December 11 2007 at 08:31
I think that could also apply to ELP as well.
And thanks for the spinning piano vid. ------------- ~~~Brian~~~ "And if we all did the things we knew to be right, left would be the childish fears of danger in the night." -Graeme Edge |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: December 11 2007 at 23:33
| As I've mentioned before on this site, back in the day Emerson did more to get us keyboard players noticed during AND laid after a gig than anyone else in the history of rock, possibly excepting Little Richard or Jerry Lee Lewis, but I'll leave their contributions to your imaginations. Suddenly keyboard players were desireable in a way that had been previously reserved for ANY other instrument, maybe excluding cellos or something. But the spinning piano was the end of the line for me. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 11 2007 at 23:38
hahahhahah no wonder I've always held Gene Simmons in such high regard as a bassist... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Teh_Slippermenz
Date Posted: December 12 2007 at 03:07
You're welcome.  Man, I wonder how they did that....I can't imagine going to an ELP concert, and during KE 9: 3rd Impression, seeing the keyboardist spinning around like a machine. O_O That must have been almost as awesome as a Genesis concert with Peter Gabriel. |
Posted By: lightyearday
Date Posted: December 12 2007 at 07:52
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it actualy sound like it was basicly a bunch of guys behind the curtain, spinning him around with a big handle
They tried it later with a bigger piano with fireworks coming out of it , and went so fast, he started panicing but then it stopped suddenly and Emo smashed his face of the piano!
Poor soul - all those years on a motorbike without a helmet - and it turns out he needed one to play the piano!
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Posted By: Tarkus31
Date Posted: December 12 2007 at 18:53
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I never knew they tried it again. But I'm not sure what Keith was playing, as I cant quite tell. It doesnt really sound like KE:9 to me, but then again, I havent listened to the 3rd Impression in awhile. ------------- ~~~Brian~~~ "And if we all did the things we knew to be right, left would be the childish fears of danger in the night." -Graeme Edge |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: December 12 2007 at 21:56
When I saw the spinning piano, I think he was playing Take A Pebble, but it's been 35 years or so. My memory of the concert is probably impaired, though it was definitely the Brain Salad Surgery tour as I also remember the wall-o'-synth sprouting wings at the end.
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Posted By: Tarkus31
Date Posted: December 12 2007 at 23:52
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All I know is it was from the California Jam, as I have part of it on DVD from an ELP dvd set. I think he also comes down off the piano and goes into The Great Gates of Kiev, but I'm sure they werent playing Pictures. ------------- ~~~Brian~~~ "And if we all did the things we knew to be right, left would be the childish fears of danger in the night." -Graeme Edge |
Posted By: Teh_Slippermenz
Date Posted: December 13 2007 at 01:23
Eep. Yesh, he needs a helmet to PLAY THE PIANO. |
Posted By: Teh_Slippermenz
Date Posted: December 13 2007 at 01:36
...........Say what? Did they do this at the Cal Jam as well??? |
Posted By: lightyearday
Date Posted: December 13 2007 at 07:53
yeah they had these wings come out form behind the modular moog - it looks like those big wings the beastie had in the film 'Jeepers Creepers!' I have that 'from the beginning DVD' - it's absolute gold. there is even footage of them writing and rehearsing for the BSS album. I was to young to go to their concerts in the 70's, being only a 8 or 9 - just a bairn! Still, I'm catching up. Hopefully going to get the Montreux one and the Royal Albert hall one as well. Good reviews on Amazon! Emo has played a big part of the sound I'm trying to capture with my band these days. it's a sort of Rick Emerson thing - or perhaps a Keith Wakeman? who knows? who cares!!!!! I'm having fun and spelling correctly for a change! (it won't last!) ------------- If you like the music of Rick Wakeman and ELP go to www.myspace/grahambholley - www.myspace/grahambholley |
Posted By: Tarkus31
Date Posted: December 13 2007 at 16:23
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The Montreux dvd is ok. Its a tie for me with the Royal Albert Hall one. I mean they are both good, but not as good as the stuff from the 70's. ------------- ~~~Brian~~~ "And if we all did the things we knew to be right, left would be the childish fears of danger in the night." -Graeme Edge |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: December 13 2007 at 17:05
Yep, the modular Moog would rotate 45 degrees to face the audience, and then it sprouted huge metallic wings. All the while it was playing the little sequence that ends the Brain Salad Surgery album, which got louder and louder, faster and faster, until it ended.
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Posted By: Tarkus31
Date Posted: December 15 2007 at 09:12
And didnt they go directly into The Great Gates of Kiev from there? Or am I imagining it? ------------- ~~~Brian~~~ "And if we all did the things we knew to be right, left would be the childish fears of danger in the night." -Graeme Edge |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: December 15 2007 at 16:28
Sorry, those brain cells are long gone and I have no idea what came after.
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Posted By: Tarkus31
Date Posted: December 15 2007 at 20:19
Guess I'll have to go digging around youtube and my dvd collection. ------------- ~~~Brian~~~ "And if we all did the things we knew to be right, left would be the childish fears of danger in the night." -Graeme Edge |
Posted By: lightyearday
Date Posted: December 16 2007 at 06:02
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******NEWS FLASH!!!!!!******NEWS FLASH!!!!!!******NEWS FLASH!!!!!!******NEWS FLASH!!!!!!******NEWS FLASH!!!!!!******NEWS FLASH!!!!!!******NEWS FLASH!!!!!!*****
Evidently Keith and Greg met for lunch on Friday (December14th) for the first time on many many years!
ELP to tour in 2008????????
screw Led ZZZZzzzzzz.... if ELP get back together, well that IS news! ------------- If you like the music of Rick Wakeman and ELP go to www.myspace/grahambholley - www.myspace/grahambholley |
Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: December 16 2007 at 06:05
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Keith -'Turkey?'
Greg - 'I didn't know you had invited Carl' ------------- 
Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb. |
Posted By: Tarkus31
Date Posted: December 16 2007 at 11:36
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Are you serious????? This could be great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think im hyper-ventilating now............. ------------- ~~~Brian~~~ "And if we all did the things we knew to be right, left would be the childish fears of danger in the night." -Graeme Edge |
Posted By: lightyearday
Date Posted: December 17 2007 at 07:44
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well i guess it was only lunch but it's surely gotta be the start of some bridge building . hopefully leading to .......
another lunch? ------------- If you like the music of Rick Wakeman and ELP go to www.myspace/grahambholley - www.myspace/grahambholley |
Posted By: Tarkus31
Date Posted: December 17 2007 at 20:56
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or a lunch between the three of them? ------------- ~~~Brian~~~ "And if we all did the things we knew to be right, left would be the childish fears of danger in the night." -Graeme Edge |
Posted By: lightyearday
Date Posted: December 18 2007 at 07:52
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ah or a 2008 tour of .....
..the really good eating places in London! ------------- If you like the music of Rick Wakeman and ELP go to www.myspace/grahambholley - www.myspace/grahambholley |
Posted By: Tarkus31
Date Posted: December 18 2007 at 09:08
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Nah, a tour of colleges in the midwest of the USA would be the best. :) ------------- ~~~Brian~~~ "And if we all did the things we knew to be right, left would be the childish fears of danger in the night." -Graeme Edge |
Posted By: tony kayes headband
Date Posted: March 18 2008 at 18:27
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I am so glad I saw ELP on their Black Moon tour(I was in 3rd row!). At the time(1993)the only ELP I had heard was the Black Moon album and the Best of.When they started playing Tarkus,I actually thought that it was a new song! I was also wondering why the hell Greg was wearing sunglasses at the beginning of the show. When they did Pictures....I thought,wow,this must be what music in Heaven sounds like. I imagine all the prog haters think ELP is what music in HELL sounds like !Saw'em again in 96 when they opened for Tull.Carl was a bit perturbed when he noticed that it was starting to rain. |