The Dire Straits
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Category: Progressive Music Lounges
Forum Name: Suggest New Bands and Artists
Forum Description: Suggest, create polls, and classify new bands you would like included on Prog Archives
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Topic: The Dire Straits
Posted By: endlessepic
Subject: The Dire Straits
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 15:39
| Ok ok ok...this sounds very very out of line...I mean people are going to think "Money for Nothing" and not even consider it. But...for a Prog Related band...this band is incredible. Listen to the 14 minute prog folk epic "Telegraph Road" or the extremely moody "Private Investigations" Dire Straits fuses Bob Dylan type folk with some scottish type moods and very english electric blues. Then he throws classical and a bit of country and jazz at you too...of course, I may be grasping at straws here because my vision is clouded with the fact that they just plain rock...but what do you think? |
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 15:44
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Personally, I think "Love over gold" was as close as they got to prog, but not close enough even for prog related in my opinion.
A fine band though.
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Posted By: jimidom
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 15:51
| Love Over Gold is a great album! I think Dire Straits is one those bands who, although not quite prog, definitely ventured into some amazing sonic territory.. |
Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 15:54
| Dire Straits, while one of the more unique blues bands, does not qualify even for PR IMO. The best argument for inclusion could come from either Love Over Gold or the live album Alchemy. Mighty long shot, though, if you ask me |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 16:07
| I think you're grasping at straws. Very short ones too. They were rejected by 18-4 in a previous poll. http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21238&KW=dire+straits - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21238&KW=dire+straits |
Posted By: endlessepic
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 16:31
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Well I think you guys are probably right. They wouldn't qualify for progressive in this sites definition...which is a good thing, we shouldn't just accept every singly good band on the face of this earth as progressive. One cannot deny though, after listening to "Love Over Gold" that for being in the 80's (an extremely bad era) they were one of the few bands that really explored folk rock and melded many styles. One thought though, think about this, Dire Straits made the song Telegraph Road...a 14 minute number...and somehow got it to receive regular radio airplay, I have heard it about 3-4 times on the radio...and I rarely listen to the radio...how did they manage that?!! Dire Straits is one of the few bands that you never hear people saying "Their songs are too long" they just go ahead and play them...its really amazing. Anybody know how that works? |
Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 16:41
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I love the band, too, but they probably feature way too much variety in their influences to be included here. I've always thought "On Every Street" had some fine prog moments. ------------- "Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 16:48
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Love Dire Straits. They are a great adventurous rock band with varied influences, but I don't think they should be on the site, even though, as you said, Telegraph Road is 14 minutes long.
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 16:52
Yes, Dire Straits has wrote an epic song. But for me isn't a clear cause for the DS inclusion in PA. Yes, for 80's standards is Prog... But for Prog standards... Well... Well... Well... Is only a very good band!!!
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 19:58
Mandy:  DS are a great band, one of my favourites from the Eighties. However, I don't think they really have any connection with prog. A 14-minute track doesn't always equal prog content, in my humble opinion. Anyway, it's not the first time they have been suggested, and the majority was quite overwhelmingly against their addition. |
Mandrakeroot wrote:Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 02:47
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Amazing band, I used to surf with those old yellow waterproof walkmans while listening "Lady Writter", excelent band.
But not Prog for the 70's, 80's, 90's or 00's standards.
Lady writer on the tv
She had all the brains and the beauty The pictures does not fit Youd talk to me when you felt like it Yeah, great music despite being anything but Prog.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 04:00
 ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 13:52
What he said.
(DS have been already discussed many times here, as well.)
All that glitters is not prog.
 Not that "prog" is anywhere near satisfactorily delineated, either -- as a separate, readily-defined genre, it doesn't even exist! Blurrier and blurrier....  ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 14:55
WITH THIS ONE I DISAGREE (and that's saying a lot)....
Please....
When will Korn get added? They really marked an "evolution"in rock...
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Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 15:11
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Most of their stuff isn't prog, though I think love over gold was absolutelly prog, no question in my mind. Of all the bands suggested for PR recently this has been the first I could get behind. Also Knofflers solo stuff is often even proggier and should be checked out. ------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob |
Posted By: Cheesecakemouse
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 05:42
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Dire Straits album MAKING Movies had a couple of 8 minute songs on it. Some of Knofler's solo soundtracks may get close to prog. But in the end I don't think they quite make it although Knofler has the artistic ingenuity and integrity of a prog artist and I'm sure if he wanted to could have made a few decent prog albums. ------------- |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 18:06
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We're discussing DIRE STRAITS but if someone dares mention Black Sabbath or Metallica, both of which have much more relation to prog (at least to one genre of prog, today's leading genre) people's eyes go berzerk and others ask to "stop it" ...very welll....
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Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 18:07
Yesterday.
 You didn't know?But to be on topic... great band, not prog.
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Posted By: akin
Date Posted: August 06 2007 at 16:22
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It is certain Dire Straits is not considered a progressive rock band by the great majority of people. But to say it is not fit for the site is impossible, since there is no defined rule for this, so every band is elegible. |
Posted By: bsurmano
Date Posted: August 06 2007 at 16:33
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 22:10
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Interesting to note that the 80's version of Yes or a band like Asia makes the cut on the site -- based entirely on their members' 70's pedigrees -- and a band like Dire Straits, who were at the time clearly during that era more competent than either Yes or Asia, gets the thumbs down. Not saying DS should be included here, however. Knopfler and the crew made some great albums and they always were for lack of a better word "atmospheric", but it wasn't prog to me. Nonetheless, that's what I was listening to in the 80's, not the dinosaurs. Jim
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 22:13
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They have their proggy moments (Telegraph Road for example) but I don't think they should be included. Still a great band though, and albums like Love Over Gold remain as one of my favorites! ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: August 08 2007 at 02:39
i am a big fan of Dire Straits, i have all their albums - Love Over Gold is a strong case for calling them a Prog band but one album does not make a band Prog. I think they have been proposed in the past but are on the rejected list. 
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Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: August 11 2007 at 19:08
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I don't see them very much prog, despite having a handful of long tracks. Actually, their best work (for me) are their early Dylanesque/JJ Cale laid back pub rock albums...
Not for addition!
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: August 11 2007 at 19:22
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