Horribly overrated movies...
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Topic: Horribly overrated movies...
Posted By: activetopics
Subject: Horribly overrated movies...
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 01:25
Harold and Kumar go to White Castle, Eurotrip, Grandma's Boy, Joe Dirt. I hate college humor, though. Somehow, people find them tolerable...I, personally, find the entire sub-genre repulsive and tasteless.   |
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 01:36
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let's see... Wayne's World, Pirates of the Caribbean, Gone With the Wind, Dr. Zhivago, Rocky Horror
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 01:41
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I never saw what the big deal with The Sting or Close Encounters was. One was a decent gangster comedy, and the other a dull, pretentious, and OVERLONG, piece of unimaginitive scifi. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 03:23
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I didn't know those movies were rated at all.
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon sucked. That's all I can think of at the moment.
Please post in the right forum.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 03:24
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Crouching Tiger was spectacular, sorry
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 03:25
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Yeah, that Hidden Tiger thing sucked. WAY boring; like a three hour soap opera in another language. Give me some classic Shaw Bros. junk any day. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 03:29
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Philistines
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 03:31
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Hey, look, if you wanna have an intelligent kung fu movie, you need Toshiro Mifune. And even the mighty Toshiro couldn't always do it alone (having Kurosawa around was always helpful). That and Jet Li's Hero, that was pretty good.
Artywfnoid, do you consider yourself a fan of the martial arts genre? ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 03:31
titanic  ------------- Nothing can last there are no second chances. Never give a day away. Always live for today. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 03:36
yeah Whist, I teach. But Mifune is the man, it's true, and Jet kicks butt. I even like some Shaw Bros. |
The Whistler wrote:Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 03:39
Cool! I bought a kendo stick and some books, but all I succeeded in doing was copying some moves from Mortal Kombat Armagedon.
As for films, I like mostly the bad seventies ones, the more ninjas the better. I represent the dark side of the martial arts fan. I'm sorry... ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 03:42
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that's OK... we use to have a show called 'Kung FU Theater' on late Saturday nights that would show the worst of the 70s stuff... loved it.
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Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 05:19
Overated by whom? As long as I can remember that movie was dubbed crap. Unless you are refering to the sh*tload of Oscars it won, we all know that doesn't count. On that note:
LORD OF THE RINGS SUCKED. And I'm a Peter Jackson fan...  ------------- Bigger on the inside. |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 05:43
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Although college humor/movies sucks, its never been overrated. These are really overrated: Life Is Beautiful (Benigni) Magnolia (P.T Anderson) Requiem for a Dream (Aronofsky) Cinema Paradiso (Tornatore) The Royal Tenebaums (Wes Anderson) The Double Life of Veronique & Blue (Kieslovski) ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 05:52
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Jerry Maguire for one. Dreadful movie. Not a huge Forrest Gump fan either. I thought Shawshank Redemption should've won Best Picture that year. Now THAT'S a movie.
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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 06:24
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Pirates of the Caribbean II sucked. The effects were good and so was Depp's performance, but the story was unconvincing and Bloom's and Knightley's so-called acting was more wooden than a city of wooden houses.
Matrix II and III were just terrible. Why do they all talk like they're suffering from laryngitis in those movies? Again, the effects were okay, but the way the movies were edited was really ineffective and ended up making them mindnumbingly uninteresting to watch. A shame because the first one was pretty good.
The recent King Kong is probably one of the worst movies I've ever seen, along with Troy. Those movies are just plain stupid in every sense - well, Jack Black performs pretty well in King Kong but that's about it.
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 06:34
Agreed. I thought King Kong was pretty bad, too. E -------------
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 06:58
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I have to be honest, 'Crouching Tiger...', 'Hero' and 'House Of Flying Daggers', although visually impressive, didn't really do it for me as much as I was hoping, I found them to be flashy but with little substance/soul. I haven't watched them in a few years so maybe I've changed my mind. However, Jet Li's 'Fearless' I found to be much more to my liking- it had genuine heart and soul, and probably Jet Li's best performance ever. And it came out to little fanfare in comparison to those other movies I mentioned.
I was into the 'old school' Kung Fu movies more than the newer ones,anyway, but I increasingly find myself bored by most of them (not to mention 95% of them are utterly woeful); I think it's something I grew out of. However, some of them I still enjoy.
I only ever saw the 2nd Pirates Of The Caribbean movie and it's not an experience I want to repeat; bloated, boring and not as funny/entertaining as it thinks it is, imho.
I'd rather stick pins in my eyes than watch those college humour/date movies but as has been said, I don't know that anyone rated them highly anyway.
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Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 07:14
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Harry Potters – what a waste of a few hundred million (despite the gross revenue…) All spoof movies like Scary Movie Glorified American war movies ------------- 
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 07:18
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Matrix was a major disappointment for me. It teaches the lesson of how to do little with a lot of great ideas. Titanic was indeed sentimental crap but I wouldn't call it overrated... just sold well. Never had anything special for Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. If I want something with Asian feel, I always go for a Miyazaki anime, for example. I do like Ang Lee however, I loved his Brokeback Mountain. Also I agree on all Rocktopus' mentions. ------------- "PA's own GI Joe!" 
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 07:41
Matrix wasn't my biggest disappointment, I actually enjoyed the first and even liked the second's dynamic. Being however totally bored by the ending. But, talking to a friend who does professional martial arts, I did find out that those from the Matrix are indeed baloney. About Titanic, I can only say: Yes, I did cry at it. (Polo Happy commercial   ) I was seven, but I got totally sentimental. Otherwise, it's a film to totally forget. And, just like its fellow two films, it got 11 Oscar for absolutely nothing.On the other hand, dear friend, I can't agree about Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. That movie is so special and well-made for me, it's a thumbs up. But I did felt nothing about Brokeback Mountain. Except Gyllenhaal's performance, the rest was weak; and its controversy didn't needed that much accent. Now to mention some of my own, I actually remember reading once a list of big movies considered disasters. Vanilla Ice topped the list, but I didn't find it that horrible. A.I. - with Haley Osmond - was second, and this time I agree, that movie was completely superficial. ------------- 
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 08:30
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Hmm... Wayne's World is not overrated, David! Neither if Requiem for a Dream was that Rocktopus?). I found Farewell My Concubine extremely boring... I don't think I even finished watching it. Titanic was indeed crap. I think most agree on this. If I'd seen it, I think I'd find Pearl Harbor overrated too, as I hate American adaptations of war. The same with U-571. I cannot think of anything else for the moment... -------------   
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 08:40
If you disliked Matrix, you should try to get a a copy of Rainer Werner Fassbinder's TV-movie "Welt am Draht", which was based on the same idea as "Matrix" but a million times better. You can order the 2 CDs from WDR TV; I can search for the link if you are interested. -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 09:32
Agreed on all 3 counts.
Jerry Maguire was a tragic waste of celluloid.
Forrest Gump was a nauseating travesty of a genuinely amusing book.
Shawshank was one of those rare examples of a popular film that didn't patronise its audience, although I'm not sure whether it should have won best picture; it was certainly the best on the shortlist, though. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: andu
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 09:43
Thanks for the tip, I'll look into it. Anyway, I don't dislike Matrix, it can be fun to watch, if you just want to have some fun. I only expected a lot more because of the great ideas it employed and of the praise it got. ------------- "PA's own GI Joe!"
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 09:50
I find the relation with the original source irrelevant when judging a film. And I always say this, not only because I happen to genuinely like Forrest Gump a lot. ------------- "PA's own GI Joe!"
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 09:53
 "Fictional romantic tale of a rich girl and poor boy who meet on the ill-fated voyage of the 'unsinkable' ship"
...bollox
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 10:29
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By the way... I didn't find a better place to post this... R.I.P. Ingmar Bergman!  ------------- "PA's own GI Joe!"
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Posted By: darkmatter
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 12:21
I never thought of the Matrix II or III as being overrated, I thought most people thought of those movies as being bad to begin with (so do I, they were pretty bad). And if you think Pirates II sucked... go see Pirates III... it was much worse. |
Posted By: TR!P
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 12:45
I defo agree with you on The Royal Tenebaums, although i never knew it to be all that much hype over it, so i dunno if id call it "overrated" moreso just a really really really bad movie
its actualy pretty depressing if i think about it, it just gives you nothing other then... emptyness
and Magnolia, i thought it was decent for the most part... the frog bit at the end was just a "wtf" moment, i really didnt see why it happened, and it did drag on a bit , but again i never knew or heard about it being hyped, so i dunno if its overrated either ------------- join communism 
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 12:55
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Not sure if it's classed as a bad film or not, but War of the Worlds is pretty shoddy. My mate likes it though.
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 13:03
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As for 'The Matrix', it has been a long held belief amongst Doctor Who fans that the whole concept was taken from a 1976 episode called 'The Deadly Assassin'. I love 'The Deadly Assassin' but couldn't stand 'The Matrix'- the action scenes were hyped to the high heavens but anybody who's seen a good Kung Fu movie will have seen far better fight scenes than that. And Keanu Reeves is perhaps the most wooden, least versatile actor I've seen that gets roles in major, big budget Hollywood movies. He hobbles through films with that same facial expression. IMHO, of course.
Quentin Tarantino's output mostly never fails to leave me cold, either- 'Reservoir Dogs' was passable but the 'Kill Bill' films were soulless exercises in fanboyism. 'Look at how many Shaw Brothers/Blaxploitation movies I've seen', he seemed to be saying- but why did he need two films to do that?? Apparently his latest, 'Grindhouse', went even further with this, and tanked in the US. Never liked 'Pulp Fiction' at all either.
 And the much hyped Brit gangster film 'Lock Stock And Two Smoking Barrels' was dreadful, imho- alleged 'comedy', flashy camera angles, charisma-free actors and woeful dialogue. Not a patch on the truly great, gritty Brit gangster flicks of the 70s like 'Get Carter', 'The Long Good Friday' or 'Villain'.
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 13:09
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I love everything Tarantino has done, and consider him to be the best director of my generation. The Boondock Saints is my pick for most overrated. Terrible writing, lousy directing, bad acting. I can't understand why anyone likes it. ------------- 
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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 14:06
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I liked "Crouching Tiger..." a lot actually, but I was quite disappointed at "House of Flying Daggers".
And I think the entire Harry Potter hype is a result of gross overating. Granted, the books are entertaining, but the filmatizations just are not impressive or interesting in any way.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 14:14
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W00t! another negative thread except this time we're not bashing musicians or each other.
I loved Crouching Tiger but just could not get into Hidden Dragon at all.
(that's an update on the immortal hated Ben, lover Her joke btw)
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 15:25
| Any of those comic book super hero movies that have come out in the past 7-8 years or so. But Sin City is a classic. |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 15:28
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I'm not much of a movie critic (I actually enjoy alot of the movies mentioned here), but I have to say that Armageddon is the crappiest movie I've ever seen. ------------- 
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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 15:31
Good thing you brought that up. They've really managed to ruin most of the good old Marvel heroes in those silly new movies. The only one that's kind of okay is the first Spider-Man movie.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 15:34
Except Batman Begins, and V for Vendetta, I agree. Those two movies are 3+ stars out of 4. V for Vendetta is a better movie than a graphic novel, IMO. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 15:34
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yeah, most of the superhero films have been poor.. though 'Batman Begins' was incredibly good. The War of the Worlds remake was crap, all the Harry Potters were crap, Matrix was crap, Pearl Harbor was crap, U-571 was crap
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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 15:38
| Well, in all fairness Batman isn't a Marvel hero, so my criticism doesn't apply to 'Batman Begins' (not having seen that movie, I'm actually in no position to criticise it at all). |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 15:42
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The stuff that comes out of Hollywood is usually nothing but crap. Thousands of FX and explosions, lots of action, but a plot for people with an IQ of 20. I definitely prefer low-budget movies, and there are some really excellent ones. Jean and I hardly go to the cinema anymore; we much prefer theatre or opera when we go out. A lot more expensive, but a lot more pleasing and entertaining too.
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 15:52
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Oh that reminds me... Terminator 3, Jurassic Park 3 and Leathal Weapon 4 were awful (not that the others were great, mind you). I was actually disappointed with The Fisher King, but not because it's overrated, just because I didn't enjoy as much as I thought. Brazil was much better though. I must watch 12 Monkeys soon too. -------------
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 15:52
As The War of the Worlds has been mentioned, could I ask a question of all American members here: How do you feel about the Amercianisation of these classic stories? Would the average American filmgoer really not go to see this film if it was set on Horsell Common, near London, and followed an downbeat British journalist rather than in New Jersey and featuring a Newark dock-worker? ------------- What? |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 15:59
I heard that when American film studios were first interested in Harry Potter, somebody came up with the bright idea of setting it in a Hollywood high school. Just imagine how successful that would have been...
I think UK film makers should start making their own versions of American blockbusters. Alexei sayle once did a brilliant sketch involving Ken Loach's Superman; maybe we could have Mike Leigh's version of Independence Day, or maybe Guy Ritchie's version of Die Hard ("You slaaag!! You wally!!! You muppet!!!). ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 16:00
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Well in it's truest film form, The War of the Worlds would have to be as accurate as possible for me and I think I'd want a retro feel to it too, with proper tripods and not those silly ones in the remake. I also thought Tom Cruise's character was a t**t and should have died, so should have the son actually. However, that would have gone against the book. Children of Men was excellent though, check that out for a proper movie. -------------
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 16:02
Children of Men is definitely one of my favourite films of the past 12 months.  ------------- What? |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 16:03
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I don't think even a British version of Indepence Day would be any better, it's just a stupid plot, full of ridiculous happenings. I really didn't like that film at all. I enjoyed 28 Days Later, but felt it wasn't as good as people said it was, so a slight disappointment for me, but not overrated. I've not seen the sequel. Oh and Saw is a terribly overrated film with acting worse than Neighbours. Again, I've not seen the sequels. -------------
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 16:06
Indeed, I saw it on DVD on Saturday and was shocked when I heard King Crimson and then later on, saw a reference to Animals. Although it was perhaps the most powerful scene in the whole film, the bit when Clive Owen was running through Bexley Heath Internment Camp (or whatever it was called), was a tad over-the-top. There's no way he would have survived all those tanks and guns! Sir Maurice Micklewhite was outstanding though.  -------------
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 16:08
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Children of Men was only good in the sense that it illustrated how not to write a successful story arc.
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 16:14
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I thought 'Children Of Men' was excellent; it's a really desolate, dystopian film and not always easy to watch but it's definitely a film to remember.
I wouldn't let Guy Ritchie anywhere near Die Hard (which is one of few 80s Hollywood action movies that I like) or anything else, as I mentioned my dislike for 'Lock Stock...' and his crass, 'laddish' dialogue. Those sort of movies ruined the British gangster movie, imho- the gangsters are figures of fun and not fearsome in the slightest, IMHO. I've read they are doing a film of 70s TV show 'The Sweeney' (IMHO, THE best cop show there's ever been) but I bet that will be in that 'Lock, Stock...' mould and might just make the film of 'The Avengers' look like a masterful crossover by comparison.
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 16:15
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Blame that on P.D. James then, the original novellist of The Children of Men. I didn't think the film was perfect though, but compared to most films coming out, it was very good. -------------
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 16:23
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James, you're a fool if you don't recognize how awesome Terminator 2 is. Or perhaps you dislike good movies. In any case, I usually prefer American films to art house Euro films, which leave me with a weird feeling, usually, as I only know depressing love stories in which everyone cries after sex and then dies. I totally just stereotyped a lot of movies, but it's no worse than labeling all Hollywood films as crap. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 16:27
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I prefer Art House Euro Films to Hollywood Films. Stonas, I'm not really into "laddish" films like Terminator, which have lots of unnecessary violence and destruction. I much prefer my Ealing Comedy films, or a really well made dark dystopian film. -------------
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 16:34
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I like all 3 Terminator movies, but my preference for action movies is definitely the 70s. The 80s ones are generally glossier (those Joel Silver/Cannon films production line jobs especially), and I prefer the dour, grittier feel of films like 'Dirty Harry', 'The French Connection', 'Get Carter' and series like 'The Sweeney' or 'The Professionals'. But my other fave genre is the Western. Those 'Mission Impossible' movies were awful (I saw the first and second, well about an hour of each), imho, yet again all flashy bombast and wooden acting. These were overhyped movies, imho. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 16:36
Same here, Gecko. I am definitely not into those testosterone movies in which an Überhero saves the world. This kind of movies is made for a certain age and gender group, but if by age 25 you are not grown out of these movies then something is really wrong with you. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 16:38
it was crap... and a blatant rip-off of WotW... ...12 Monkeys is crap, BTW in answer to Dean's question; as a sci-fi fan I'd very much like to see a good British version of WotW.. the other Welles classics, Time Machine, First Men in the Moon were set in Britain and/or with a predominantly English cast, and they're great films |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 16:42
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Quite right, Friede. I actually watched some old Black & White classics the other week. "The Naked City" was one of them. An exceptional film, in my opinion. It just goes to show that good films could be made without huge budgets and wanton destruction. It's set in post-war 1940s New York and is exceptionally well filmed and the acting isn't too bad either. I also watched Robert Bresson's "Au Hasard Balthasar", which I didn't fully understand, but it was an excellent film nonetheless. -------------
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 16:50
Ever saw "The Night of the Hunter", the only movie Charles Laughton ever directed, starring Robert Mitchum in his best role ever? A really excellent b/w thriller. One of my favourite movies. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 16:52
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Night of the Hunter is chilling, and beautifully photographed
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Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 16:52
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I can name lots, but I'll just list a few that instantly pops in my mind: _The ridiculous B-movie "Tremors" _Several disney movies, most notably "Finding Nemo", "National Treasure" and the horribly shallow and repugnant "Lizzy McGuire Movie" which while not excellently rated, it should be constantly listed in top 10 worst movies charts. _The uneventful "Lost in Translation" _"Jaws" seems like a terrible sci-fi movie, though I'm biased since the jaw must have been quite realistic for that time. |
Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 16:57
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Any of the Indiana Jones movies, really... - Raiders of the Lost Ark is number 15 on IMDB's Top 250 movies list - must be the silliest thing I've ever heard! - Saving Private Ryan also gets a mention - it wasn't bad at all, but it is tremendously overhyped imo. It doesn't hold a candle on Full Metal Jacket. - The Godfather: Part III was also a huge disappointment after the first two. It got rave reviews and was nominated for 7 Oscars, but I thought it was weak and uninspired. - The Untouchables, I thought it was absolutely terrible, and yet it has a 7.9 user rating on IMDB. Go figure. ------------- 
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 16:59
 I happy watching either arthouse or blockbuster films as long as they are good. An overload of testosterone never did me any harm  and I think Die HArd 4.0 is the funniest film of this year - I haven't laughed out loud in the cnema since Pulp Fiction.------------- What? |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 17:00
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I'm going to get roasted alive for this, but "The Sound of Music" is overrated. Maybe it's because I dislike musicals strongly though...
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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 17:00
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 17:01
I think it's a masterpiece. ------------- "PA's own GI Joe!"
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Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 17:01
| ^Lost In Translation is simply breathtaking. One of the best movies of the decade. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 17:02
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 17:04
I couldn't read the subtitles.  ------------- What? |
Posted By: Hirgwath
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 17:07
I completely agree with you. If the Anschluss was like that, I would have loved to have been in Austria at the time. I'm not inherently biased against musicals, either. West Side Story was fantastic: Shakespeare, social realism, and beautiful songs. The songs in "Sound of Music" were barely even related to the plot. |
Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 17:25
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Lost in Translation is not bad, but reviews were all claiming it to be a huge masterpiece and while I can't deny it has a certain neat style and is touching ... I just found the whole thing a bit dull and very anti-climatic, considering I waited 2 hours for something to really happen. I didn't really like the characters, I guess that's what did it for me. I forgot the one I would personally call the most overrated one: "The Conversation". My family loves intelligent mystery/drama movies, but it bored the heck out of all of us and left us very cold. Well, at least, this one had more of a climax. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 18:48
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Indiana Jones is one of the best adventure movies ever! The second isn't that good, and the third is more enjoyable than masterful, but the first is beyond amazing. Saving Private Ryan is about as good as war movies get, though I thought the premise for the plot is fairly stupid. I need to watch Platoon again. I think it might be the best Nam movie, though I haven't seen Apocalypse Now. For World War Two films, I'd rather choose the miniseries Band of Brothers. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 18:56
I agree with you totally, except I think 'Temple of Doom' is quite good, too.
Here's another slightly overrated movie: 'Star Trek: First Contact'. It's a good and enjoyable film, but I think it doesn't deserve it's status of being the best Star Trek film ever.
As to the Euro vs Hollywood thing. I don't have a problem with Hollywood films per se. It's just that a lot of the films being grinded out in Hollywood these days tend to focus so much on special effects that the rest of the film, like the acting and the plot line, tends to suffer terribly from it.
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 18:58
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For WWII, I'd rather choose: Schindler's List (an epic film and an all time favourite) Das Boot (all 6 hours of the German television version) Also rans (lots of factual mistakes, but still classic films): Sink the Bismark Reach for the Sky (yes, I have an affinity for Kenneth More) Tora Tora Tora! Battle of Britain The Dambusters 633 Squadron Mosquite Squadron Television series: Piece of Cake Overhyped WW2 films I don't care for: The Thin Red Line (booooooooooooooooooooooooring) Pearl Harbor U-571 The Peter Jackson Dambusters film that's planned... -------------
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 19:02
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I just dislike the notion that Hollywood is a poop. It's not. It mostly was for a long while in the 80s and 90s, but it's getting so much better. Sure, you've got that nonsense like that new Lindsay Lohan movie that just came out, but I find myself enjoying the movies much more lately. Even if I recognize that a film isn't that good, I can still enjoy it. A lot of indie and European movies seem to me to be far too serious for their own good. I think as a reaction to Hollywood being the "blockbuster" producer of movies, these folks with a smaller budget focus on more serious issues. It's alright once in awhile, but I usually watch movies for entertainment/escapism, not to overdose on harsh reality.
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 19:17
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A History of Violence.
I heard alot of people say how great it was. And I just found it very..........................
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 19:19
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Nobody has mentioned Donnie Darko yet... I enjoyed the film at the time, but in retrospect, I think it's a tiny bit overrated. -------------
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 19:31
Come and See (aka Go and See) - 1985 ex-USSR movie.  ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 19:38
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Donnie Darko is a cool movie that you think is gonna be a scary thriller movie, but turns into a cool sci-fi physics epic. The Simpsons movie was one of the most overrated and overhyped movies in the history of film-making. all that build up for an 87 minute episode!
one thing ive hated about Hollywood in the last decade or so, is that EVERY big movie HAS to have a sequel, and now these days, HAS to be a trilogy and beyond!
OR
it's a remake of a movie made in the past, whether it was a classic or not (Willy Wonka and The Omen come to mind)
i wouldnt be too surprised if Hollywood remade Scarface, The Godfather, Jaws, Psycho, and many other classic movies. (although Jaws might be kinda cool redone, being as how dated the original is)
also Disney ran out of ideas pretty much once computer animation took over. i wouldnt be surprised if they remade their own movies for the modern times.
All the new superhero movies (Marvel, D.C., whatever) all suck IMO except the first and third Spiderman and Batman Begins. The next Batman movie, Dark Knight, will probably be awesome based on how good the first was.
my point... movies these days (with nary an exception) just make me mad all the time. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm 
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 19:39
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I saw this movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Uu017TGpLk&NR=1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Uu017TGpLk&NR=1 on TV a few years ago, featuring Guru Guru as musicians as well as as actors (they played the members of a band called "Rattenfänger", which is German for "Rat Catchers". I was especially (pleasantly) surprised by the acting of drummer Mani Neumeier, although of course he more or less only had to be himself. But he is a very convincing character, and even the parts where he clearly has to act are done very well. The movie was shot in 1977 and features the Tango Fango line-up of Guru Guru (Mani Neumeier, Roland Schaeffer, Sepp Jandrisits and Jogi Karpenkiel).
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 19:45
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my prediction - Movie makers are gonna make a comeback within the next 5 years, as there will be variety of people who want to make really good movies so that they can be called art again.
btw, i see the same thing happening with music as well, but thats for another forum ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: Shwang_Shwinga
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 21:12
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I'm happy as long as Kevin Smith and David Fincher keep making movies. I always thought college humor and those Scary Movie spoofs to be dreadfully moronic and probably the root of why America is getting dumber and less articulate. Solution? Prog for all! We need more of those gritty 90's movies like Fight Club, American History X, Snatch [which was 2000 but we'll let it slide], American Beauty, and The Big Lebowski. Some good recent films are like Crank and Unknown. As far as overrated, LOTR and Harry Potter are two huge franchises that are a whole lot of nothing to me. Also, Napoleon Dynamite is a boring and uninspired piece of garbage, just more proof that people can become something by doing nothing [cough cough Paris Hilton]....imo. ------------- 
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Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 21:17
| I think that Harry Potter is just now getting to be good cinema (Starting with Goblet of Fire), but (massive LOTR fan that I am), I'm gonna have to disagree with your stance on the Rings. For me, The Matrix was always overrated. I do believe it's one of teh best action films ever, but it isn't a masterpiece of art and action like so many say. The plot gets downright silly and the sequels are atrocious |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 21:23
A fellow Fincher fan!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: Shwang_Shwinga
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 21:24
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I think the original Matrix is very well done, but I'll meet you halfway with the sequels, they're not anything when put up to the first. I would like to see some of the films up and coming in the next few months, maybe things are taking a turn. Such as "I Am Legend," I thought perhaps that looked interesting. Oh, and also, Ocean's Thirteen was astounding, much better than Twelve. And Progtologist....I have always been quite fond of you, but your cool points have increased by several dozen with that single post. -------------
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 21:25
Night of the Hunter is one of the best movies I've ever seen, and I've seen quite a few of them. -------------
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Posted By: Figglesnout
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 21:35
I like Fincher's films a lot as well. I think the recent three HP movies have been trash, although the first three were "eh". Batman Begins is trash to me...horribly directed in my opinion (although I do enjoy Bale as Batman)... I also hate 300, Apocalypto, and stupid, uninspired and overproduced "epic" movies in this vein (although I thought the three LOTR movies were pretty good--Peter Jackson at least knows how to direct a battle sequence without throwing the camera like a football, hoping to capture inspiration on film). |
Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 21:44
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Posted By: activetopics
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 21:45
| forgot to mention harry potter |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 21:57
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I know college humor has been stated but I cannot underscore how much I loathe American Pie ------------- 
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Posted By: Shwang_Shwinga
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 21:59
QFT worst series ever. -------------
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 22:02
Yeah I can't stand that stuff. For example, I found (surprisingly) critically acclaimed movies like the 40 Year Old Virgin and Wedding Crashers annoying, trite, and just not very funny. -------------  <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 22:05
40 year old Virgin was bleeeeeegh
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 22:07
I agree. Except you're stealing my word  ------------- <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 22:10
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college films/humor used to be good, the originals; Animal House, Caddyshack, Revenge of the Nerds, Stripes, Meatballs, all good
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 22:11
I am not really into screwball comedies but cut my teeth on those movies growing up.
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 22:12
I believe the word is "humor" -------------
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 22:13
"Matrix" is nothing but an effect-laden spectacle; the story is really thin. Rainer Werner Fassbinder made a movie based on the same idea about 30 years earlier ("Welt am Draht") which is a hundred times better. Without all that action, of course. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 22:14
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Or "humour".
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 22:16
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