Prog related and proto prog categories
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Topic: Prog related and proto prog categories
Posted By: Easy Livin
Subject: Prog related and proto prog categories
Date Posted: February 28 2007 at 15:12
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This is just a quick reminder that the Prog Related and Proto Prog categories on the site have their own definitions.
There is a tendency among some members to suggest that bands which have been rejected for addition to one of the Prog sub-genres are instead added to Prog Related or Proto Prog. These two categories (which are specifically for bands who are not prog) are not intended as fall back options for rejected bands.
Before proposing that a band is added to Prog Related or Proto Prog, please check that they appear to fit in with the definition of one of those categories. Note that in the case of Prog Related, those bands which are approved are most likely to be well known ones.
The definitions can be found here.
Proto Prog - http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=37 - http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=37
Prog Related - http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=38 - http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=38
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Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: February 28 2007 at 15:18
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"Even though the music by these artists is sometimes unrelated it had things in common with prog music in that it was very structured and even adventurous, sometimes hard or heavy, sometimes mellow, strong melodies, good hooks are an integral part of most of the material. Sometimes these artists pioneered other rock genres. Though most of these artist can't really be considered progressive themselves, their relation to progressive music is not to be underestimated." A quote from the prog related description.
Thanks Tony ! You've just given me more than enough ammo for The Police to be included in Prog Related !!!   ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: February 28 2007 at 15:19
I don't believe Tony posted this ------------- Beauty will save the world. 
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: February 28 2007 at 15:23
As Zappa just said it was Bob that made the post not I....
 I am flabbergasted that anyone would expend effort getting The Police added to a Prog Rock site....seriously there are lots of real Prog bands out there who need your support. Try searching "Myspace" for bands with the tag "prog" and see if anything worthwhile comes up. All these bands have music posted on their Myspace, so why not go and discover something worthwhile and worth championing...
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Melomaniac wrote:Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: February 28 2007 at 15:27
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Easy livin = Bob
Tony R = Tony
There's a clue there somewhere..
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Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: February 28 2007 at 15:31
God, sorry about the name mistake !
And by the way, I don't want The Police to be included in any prog category, I know they are not prog (been discussed before), but in the light of this description I think they could be added, that's all...
I will not cry if they don't get added, they just fit the description so damn well... ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: February 28 2007 at 15:36
Million thanks for your consideration Tony, but I believe I know a bit about prog (wasn't I selected as a prog reviewer lately ?
) and I NEVER said The Police were prog, prog-RELATED is the keyword here...As I said, to me, it would just feel right to add them there. It's not championning of any kind (I'd rather champion one of my bands http://www.myspace.com/oddysseyweb - www.myspace.com/oddysseyweb or http://www.oddyssey-web.com - www.oddyssey-web.com if you have to know, far more deserving the prog etiquette than The Police), it's just common sense to me. ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: February 28 2007 at 15:40
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Like this one http://www.myspace.com/camino16 - http://www.myspace.com/camino16 ------------- Jesus Gabriel |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: February 28 2007 at 15:42
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Well maybe I believe that instead of worrying which bands fit the prog-related description, we should be actively researching new prog to add to the site. I answer over 20 submission requests every week and most of these bands have myspace sites. These bands need a postion here far more than The Police, so why not use your knowledge about Prog to this end? I am not picking on you per-se, honestly but it seems to me that too many members focus on promoting well-known bands that they like for inclusion as prog-related, rather than the job at hand. This is a Prog site after all...
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: February 28 2007 at 15:45
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[QUOTE=Chus]Like this one http://www.myspace.com/camino16%5b/QUOTE - http://www.myspace.com/camino16[/QUOTE ]
Nice, which actually points out a flaw in my logic - many of these bands havent got an album out yet, so how can we best promote them?
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Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: February 28 2007 at 15:49
I agree 100 % with you Tony (being a prog musician myself I cannot not agree, please see the edit I made in my last post for links I posted about my band), and I am not one to think you are picking on me, don't worry !
I just thought I had a strong case with them and, like I did with Iron Maiden a few months back, I am stating it.------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: February 28 2007 at 15:54
Yeah, that's a shame because they sound promising. In fact I was planning to suggest them as soon as they release their first album. Perhaps their time will come ------------- Jesus Gabriel |
Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: February 28 2007 at 15:54
That is actually an excellent idea Eric!
 And what a coincidence that there are two admins right here...
------------- Beauty will save the world.
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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: February 28 2007 at 15:55
it would be nice  not really as a genre but as a section like the "various artists" one.------------- Jesus Gabriel |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: February 28 2007 at 15:59
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Hmmm, the guy on guitars,vocals and synths is really cool.....
So how can ProgArchives do more for new bands who havent got a label yet? Can you do more by using the site to spread the word?
slightly off-topic, but much more worthwhile than discussing the Prog Rock tendencies of a supergroup...
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Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: February 28 2007 at 16:03
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This might just be my own thinking, but I would think that we should spend less time arguing about if Led Zep or Maiden is better and more time trying to promote some undiscovered talent. ------------- Beauty will save the world.
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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: February 28 2007 at 16:04
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It's great, Eric ------------- Jesus Gabriel |
Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: February 28 2007 at 16:05
Thanks a lot ! (I assume you are talking about our band!) ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: February 28 2007 at 16:06
| Looks like we have the basis of a plan.... |
Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: February 28 2007 at 16:09
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Yes I am
Of course metal is not really my cup of tea, but the execution is flawless. I believe prog-metal fans would appreciate this very much, as well as people who are not necessarily prog-metal fans ------------- Jesus Gabriel |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: February 28 2007 at 16:11
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Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: February 28 2007 at 16:14
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You're the best Tony! ------------- Beauty will save the world.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 01 2007 at 19:46
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Well, it has been asked whether we really need a million reviews of Close To The Edge or In The Court Of The Crimson King, yet, we still see these come through on a regular basis. Maybe, under reviews, it could be split into up & coming. I kind of wonder whether the site's mechanisms could divide reviews by 1- albums reviewed over x amount of times , see my examples above, 2 - currently listed albums reviewed less than X amount of times, & 3 - up & coming, i.e. newly listed, or no albums reviewed. Or I may be asking for the impossible  |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: March 02 2007 at 04:36
| mailto:M@x - M@x is working on some improvements to the presentation of the reviews. They will all still be there, but not necessarily all at once! |