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Topic: Which John McLaughlin?
Posted By: Dick Heath
Subject: Which John McLaughlin?
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 08:08
Amazon.UK in their automated way, decided I would like to know there is a new John McLaughlin album just out, Sleep Easy Baby:
 
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sleep-Easy-Baby-John-McLaughlin/dp/B000LE1EP0/sr=1-1/qid=1169555409/ref=sr_1_1/026-9434094-2178045?ie=UTF8&s=music - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sleep-Easy-Baby-John-McLaughlin/dp/B000LE1EP0/sr=1-1/qid=1169555409/ref=sr_1_1/026-9434094-2178045?ie=UTF8&s=music
 
(However, Amazon.Uk are offering a discounted price if you buy this and John McLaughlin's Marbles)
 
I'm a bit suspicious, because of the tag "new" and a price under half of what I would normally expect to pay for brand new JMc album. But why shouldn't a jazz musician release an album of lullabies......? But so soon after Industrial Zen?  My suspicion takes me to a fuller web-search. US Amazon  have the same ambiguity, but elsewhere I make a discovery that a John McLaughlin has worked with Boyzone... so brakes on. BEWARE punters is this really the John McLaughlin - worse than trying to remember whether the Floyd guitarist  or the jazz guitarist is spelt Dave Gilmour or Dave Gilmore (or which Sonny Williamson Jr is which).
 
In the meanwhile in my search to clarify what jam really is, I've purchased Home Grown's sampler  Home Grown Volume 5: Live Jam Bands, to discover Nucleus are included - whoops it turns out, not the well established (and I would have thought in the jazz fusion world, well-known) Ian Carr's Nucleus, but another who musically  aren't that dissimilar (well from one track only).......... BTW Home Grown Volume 5: Live Jam Bands is a very nice double set of music. (So is it time to form a band called the  Beatles????)
 

 


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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 08:24
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Amazon.UK in their automated way, decided I would like to know there is a new John McLaughlin album just out, Sleep Easy Baby:
 
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sleep-Easy-Baby-John-McLaughlin/dp/B000LE1EP0/sr=1-1/qid=1169555409/ref=sr_1_1/026-9434094-2178045?ie=UTF8&s=music - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sleep-Easy-Baby-John-McLaughlin/dp/B000LE1EP0/sr=1-1/qid=1169555409/ref=sr_1_1/026-9434094-2178045?ie=UTF8&s=music
 
(However, Amazon.Uk are offering a discounted price if you buy this and John McLaughlin's Marbles)
 
I'm a bit suspicious, because of the tag "new" and a price under half of what I would normally expect to pay for brand new JMc album. But why shouldn't a jazz musician release an album of lullabies......? But so soon after Industrial Zen?  My suspicion takes me to a fuller web-search. US Amazon  have the same ambiguity, but elsewhere I make a discovery that a John McLaughlin has worked with Boyzone... so brakes on. BEWARE punters is this really the John McLaughlin - worse than trying to remember whether the Floyd guitarist  or the jazz guitarist is spelt Dave Gilmour or Dave Gilmore (or which Sonny Williamson Jr is which).
 
In the meanwhile in my search to clarify what jam really is, I've purchased Home Grown's sampler  Home Grown Volume 5: Live Jam Bands, to discover Nucleus are included - whoops it turns out, not the well established (and I would have thought in the jazz fusion world, well-known) Ian Carr's Nucleus, but another who musically  aren't that dissimilar (well from one track only).......... BTW Home Grown Volume 5: Live Jam Bands is a very nice double set of music. (So is it time to form a band called the  Beatles????)
 

 
 
A deeper websearch and what do you conclude from the samples of this album available at:
 

  http://www.nl.bol.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/nl/-/EUR/BOL_DisplayProductInformation-Start?BOL_OWNER_ID=1000004004804596&Section=MUSIC - http://www.nl.bol.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/nl/-/EUR/BOL_DisplayProductInformation-Start?BOL_OWNER_ID=1000004004804596&Section=MUSIC

 



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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: January 24 2007 at 22:36
if they show it alongside Marbles it must be the same John McLaughin... Although you're right the price is a bit low

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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: January 24 2007 at 22:42
ītis also said in the amazon page that many bought the album along with the likes of Jaco Pastorius and Pat Metheny.
    

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Posted By: S Lang
Date Posted: January 25 2007 at 04:56
Hmmmm. Intriguing.
 
"Where Fortune smiles" was a largely unknown release for decades. May this be another one like that? "Sleep easy baby" doesn't sound like a McLaughlin term, though.


Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: January 25 2007 at 10:01
Check out the sound samples on the second web address I list - nothing like any McLaughlin I've heard before
http://www.nl.bol.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/nl/-/EUR/BOL_DisplayProductInformation-Start?BOL_OWNER_ID=1000004004804596&Section=MUSIC - http://www.nl.bol.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/nl/-/EUR/BOL_DisplayProductInformation-Start?BOL_OWNER_ID=1000004004804596&Section=MUSIC  


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Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: January 25 2007 at 10:13
the  Mc Laughlin website announce nothing , IMO another musician with the same name, the cover is a little bit strange too for a JML record

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: January 25 2007 at 10:20
The label says EMI.
 
Has McLaughlin not almways stayed with CBS/columbia? (not familiar with his post 70's stuff though.
 
 
 
 
 
Originally posted by S Lang S Lang wrote:

Hmmmm. Intriguing.
 
"Where Fortune smiles" was a largely unknown release for decades. May this be another one like that? "Sleep easy baby" doesn't sound like a McLaughlin term, though.
 
This could be because this album was often seen in Surman's rack in records shops
 
I've had the vinyl for some 30 years, so I never checked up on it much, while I was perusing record store's racks.


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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: January 25 2007 at 11:36
A bit too "lullabyish" to be THE JMcL... in fact this is not jazz at all... did John ever release a non-jazz album? pardon my ignorance
      

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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: January 25 2007 at 13:23
I`ve had Where Fortune Smiles for years which isn`t even really a John McLaughlin album per say. Just looking at the track titles of this "lullaby" album tells me this can`t be the John McLaughlinwe all know. Maybe if this guy had an ounce of brains he would go under a name which includes a middle initial or some other identifier. The Hungarian rock band Omega has a problem with two other American bands with the same name and even isues a notice on their official web-site regarding those other bands.

If this IS John Mclaughlin I will personally eat my underwear.


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