Whos The Greatest Comedian Of All Time?
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Topic: Whos The Greatest Comedian Of All Time?
Posted By: illustrated
Subject: Whos The Greatest Comedian Of All Time?
Date Posted: January 13 2005 at 20:11
Who do you think is the greatest comedian of all time?
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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: January 13 2005 at 20:25
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: January 13 2005 at 21:19
W.C. Fields was the best. Together with Charlie Chaplin, While Charlie's humour is dated, W.C.'s humour is still great in this time.
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: January 13 2005 at 22:04
A poll about the world greatest Comedians, not including.
Charlie Chaplin
W.C. Fields
Stan & Ollie
The Marx Bros
Monthy Python
Rowan Atkinson (used to be funny)
You 'must be joking
Anyway, the ones that are represented in the poll aren't funnie
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Posted By: Hangedman
Date Posted: January 13 2005 at 22:32
Off of your list id say carlin, but i voted pryor just because he deserves mention.
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Posted By: illustrated
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 00:29
tuxon wrote:
Anyway, the ones that are represented in the poll aren't funnie
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That's why there was an 'other' option. I was originally going to mention that I didn't want to have the list too long because it would be too much, and besides that, there's no way I'd be able to fit all of the greatest comedians in the poll - just as you wouldn't be able to fit all of the best prog bands into a "Best Prog Bands" poll. Having said that, most of the comedians in the poll are hilarious.
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Posted By: Rob The Good
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 02:13
Quite disgusting really. The greatest living comedian is surely Billy Connolly! But the greatest comedian the world has ever seen: Peter Cook. Come on, he was amazing...he launched the British satire boom of the 1960s!!
None of the people on your list are funny!
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 02:20
------------- Billy Connolly
Dream Theater
Terry Gilliam
Hagen Quartet
Jethro Tull
Mike Keneally
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 03:32
None of those choices are the best IMO, although most of them are pretty good. Bill Hicks was excellent, although he seemed to be appreciated in the UK more than the US..
My top comedians of all time are:
CHRIS MORRIS (Brass Eye/The Day Today)
Laurel & Hardy
John Cleese
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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 04:20
I can't believe he wasn't on the list. I know I'm not the only person to think he's not only the greatest, but the most innovative comedian of the 20th century.
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Posted By: ShrinkingViolet
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 05:27
It HAS to be Mr.Bill Hicks he is amazing.
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Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 06:03
The greatest comedian? George W.Bush,of course.
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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 06:24
James Lee wrote:
I can't believe he wasn't on the list. I know I'm not the only person to think he's not only the greatest, but the most innovative comedian of the 20th century.
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I agree totally James, he is the father (along with maybe Groucho Marx) of modern comedy. I also think this guy is his natural sucessor
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Posted By: mirco
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 07:04
There are about 200 countries or so in the worid. Don't you think that is a little unfair to consider only us/british/canadian comediants?
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 07:11
Pixel !!
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Dream Theater
Terry Gilliam
Hagen Quartet
Jethro Tull
Mike Keneally
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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 07:35
mirco wrote:
There are about 200 countries or so in the worid. Don't you think that is a little unfair to consider only us/british/canadian comediants? |
Speaking just for me micro, I can only comment on the guys I've heard.
Having said that, do you have any suggestion of guys and girls that have made you laugh?
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Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 07:37
Velvetclown wrote:
Pixel !! |
Bush's greatest hits are numerous by now but my favourite is: I know how hard it is to put food on your family. Comic genius. And ad libbed too!
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 08:00
Here is another jewel :
IT ISN'T POLLUTION THAT'S HARMING THE ENVIRONMENT. IT'S THE IMPURITIES IN OUR AIR AND WATER THAT ARE DOING IT."
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Dream Theater
Terry Gilliam
Hagen Quartet
Jethro Tull
Mike Keneally
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 08:04
sigod wrote:
mirco wrote:
There are about 200 countries or so in the worid. Don't you think that is a little unfair to consider only us/british/canadian comediants? |
Speaking just for me micro, I can only comment on the guys I've heard.
Having said that, do you have any suggestion of guys and girls that have made you laugh?
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DallasBryan makes me laugh....
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Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 08:11
Velvetclown wrote:
Here is another jewel :
IT ISN'T POLLUTION THAT'S HARMING THE ENVIRONMENT. IT'S THE IMPURITIES IN OUR AIR AND WATER THAT ARE DOING IT."
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Another classic!
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Posted By: mirco
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 08:37
sigod wrote:
mirco wrote:
There are about 200 countries or so in the worid. Don't you think that is a little unfair to consider only us/british/canadian comediants? |
Speaking just for me micro, I can only comment on the guys I've heard.
Having said that, do you have any suggestion of guys and girls that have made you laugh?
| I understand that, my knowledge of the above list it's about half of them... The humour is universal, but in the same time certain things are only funny in a regional way. Said so, those are some examples of comediants outside the anglo world that may be noticed world wide:
Louis de Funes- french
Lando Buzzanca, Totó - italians
Cantinflas, Resortes - mexicans
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 08:55
We must always have a "best" or "greatest," eh?
No one -- there were/are many greats.
Buster Keaton, Charlie Chaplin, Victor Borge, Lenny Bruce, John Cleese, Peter Sellers and Robin Williams are just some of the notable omissions.
But not Carrot Top!
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Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 09:10
It does have an American bias this poll,that's true. That's why I voted for "other" since my favourite is a Norwegian comedy trio that are huge in here Norway but completely unknown outside the borders of this tiny country. Probably a poll for Americans this.
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Posted By: diddy
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 09:45
I really like the works (and movies) of Helge Schneider (Germany) who is also a very good jazz musician...some of his works are a combination of jazz and comedy! Most people don't really like him...but I love it
I also like Alf Poier (Austria). He represented Autria in the European Song Contest 2003 in Riga
But I also like Charlie Caplin (The great Dictator, awesome movie, they say Hitler saw it, at least he ordered the movie several times...), John Cleese and the whole "Monty Python crew"
And indeed, there's no BEST, Peter is right...
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Posted By: illustrated
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 11:12
Peter wrote:
We must always have a "best" or "greatest," eh?
No one -- there were/are many greats.
Buster Keaton, Charlie Chaplin, Victor Borge, Lenny Bruce, John Cleese and Robin Williams are just some of the notable omissions.
But not Carrot Top!
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Definitely not Carrot Top.
And Robin Williams and Charlie Chaplin definitely deserved to be on the list.
(It's not like a poll really matters anyway, but it works well to start out what may be an interesting thread.)
But, I think George Carlin is the greatest comedian of all time. His 70s/80s shows were still pretty good, but his best work is in the 90s and present. For those of you not easily offended, go out and buy his new book.
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 12:46
Sam Kinison (RIP)
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 13:03
Rick Wakeman...
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 15:33
For me, Bob Newhart is the best American comedian.
In the UK, John Cleese has probably made me laugh more than anyone else, but Rowan Atkinson has also done some great stuff.
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Posted By: Hangedman
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 15:42
Rob The Good wrote:
None of the people on your list are funny! |
George carlin is brilliant, pryor is very funny and started a comedy revolution in north america. Chris rock has also put out a lot of good comedy, and dreadfull movies, but dont judge him based on that if you ever have a chance to see his stand up do it, its surprisingly funny.
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 16:39
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 21:21
guess im to old to vote
I like Lenny Bruce and Redd Foxx. And of course
Rudy Ray Moore (the Signifying Monkey) is the best
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 22:07
I generally don't find comedians funny... but I guess I laugh at Jim Foxworthy sometimes because I grew up in the South and he reminds me of most the men I made fun of as a child....
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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: January 15 2005 at 04:28
I'm with threefates on that one...most stand-up comedians just irritate me, especially since it became an accepted career choice.
I prefer my comedy in animated form, or bubbling up from the depths of my soul in uncontrollable fits of inappropriate behavior.
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: January 15 2005 at 17:41
One of the funniest comedians I've seen on stage is Boothby Graffoe, who is also a talented musician. Not quite as piss-your-pants funny as Billy Connolly (the greatest living comedian), who is also a musician of sorts... but just as outstanding in his ability to improvise comic material.
Jack Dee is one of the few other stand-up comedians who consistently makes me laugh.
Others missing from the list;
The Monty Python team - especially John Cleese
Rowan Atkinson
Ben Elton (responsible for the Young Ones among MANY other things)
The Mary Whitehouse Experience team ( http://www.tmwe.co.uk - http://www.tmwe.co.uk for mp3s of all their radio shows - they're a bit dated as they were all topical and made in the early 1990s/Thatcher years, but to anyone in the UK that lived through that era, it's the funniest thing you'll ever hear!)
THE BIG YIN!!! (Is it me or did he used to look like Frank Zappa?)
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Posted By: amused 2 KAOS
Date Posted: January 15 2005 at 18:13
george carlin man!
he's a genius
and so funny!!!!!
and to cetrif1ed
he looks a little more like ian anderson
jim croce looks like frank zappa!
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Posted By: Eddy
Date Posted: January 15 2005 at 22:04
it is obvisly andy koffemen( you nevere knew if hes joking or not, even to his death) ans robin william.(WHat a goofy person)
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Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: January 16 2005 at 00:19
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: January 16 2005 at 00:28
Lots of great comedians, but my favorites are:
- Charlie Chaplin
- Laurel & Hardy
- Cantinflas (Except in Around The World in Eighty Days and his later movies when he was too old)
- Mel Brooks
- Marty Feldman
- José Candelario Tres Patines (Cuban refugee in Mexico and later in Miami, amazing comedian)
- Peter Sellers
- Monty Python
- Gene Wilder
- Benny Hill
Iván
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Posted By: Beau Heem
Date Posted: January 16 2005 at 06:43
I love to laugh, but all too often these so-called comedians fail to amuse me (i'm da Empr'r ya know)
Rowan Atkinson was hilarious in The Black Adder, throughout the series.
Monthy Python (and alot of related material) - my favourites
I've had a few laughs thanks to Bill Hicks (even though he did use too
much repetition - and not just inside one show, but from one show to
another....)
Albert Dörfer (or was it Dorfer) is a good one. Austrian.
Just hilarious - or caught me in the right mood
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Posted By: emdiar
Date Posted: January 16 2005 at 07:15
http://www.trashfiction.co.uk/eric_morecambe.html"> The King!
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: January 16 2005 at 07:35
gdub411 wrote:
I 'll take Jim Carey. |
I was wishing someone would
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: January 16 2005 at 07:46
and drown him !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dream Theater
Terry Gilliam
Hagen Quartet
Jethro Tull
Mike Keneally
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Posted By: mirco
Date Posted: January 16 2005 at 08:36
Well, this Other gay get's lotta votes...
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: January 16 2005 at 09:17
Pixel Pirate wrote:
The greatest comedian? George W.Bush,of course.
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Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: January 16 2005 at 10:14
Im currently into eddy murphy like someee CRAZY motherf**ker!
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Posted By: illustrated
Date Posted: January 16 2005 at 13:04
mirco wrote:
Well, this Other gay get's lotta votes... |
Other gay?
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Posted By: mirco
Date Posted: January 16 2005 at 13:42
Posted By: illustrated
Date Posted: January 16 2005 at 13:51
Haha alright.
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: January 16 2005 at 18:08
Off this list - Bill Hicks, who would also be high on any list of comedians I could draw up.
I've probably laughed hardest at the incomparable Viv Stanshall's John Peel sessions in years gone by - those of you who know him only as the Bonzo's lead singer are directed to Sir Henry At Rawlinson End (but not the dismal Sir Henry At Ndidi's Kraal). Sample quotes:
"I don't know what I want but I want it now"
"If I had all the money I'd spent on drink, I'd spend it on drink"
"I never met a man I didn't maim"
The Scottish genius Ivor Cutler also deserves a mention, although I suspect that neither of these will make sense to anbody outside the UK.
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Posted By: Quacky
Date Posted: January 16 2005 at 22:40
Robin Williams hands down. If for nothign else than his amazing improv abaility
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Posted By: amused 2 KAOS
Date Posted: January 16 2005 at 22:57
george carlin: tonights forcast...DARK...with nscattered light to come in
the morning
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Posted By: Quacky
Date Posted: January 16 2005 at 23:00
George is definitely time honoured. The seven words you can't say on TV,
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Posted By: Rob The Good
Date Posted: January 17 2005 at 03:59
I am still VERY annoyed that no-one has mentioned Peter Cook aside from me! Hasn't anyone seen or heard 'Beyond the Fringe' or 'Not Only...But Also'?!! If you possess ANY knowledge of comedy (real comedy that is...i.e. British, sorry guys) you MUST be aware of Peter Cook!
That doesn't mean that America hasn't produced any great comedians: Bob Newhart, The Marx Bros, Buster Keaton...strangely, none are on this list! Offhand, I was almost offended by the fact that the poll focused on all American stand-up comedians. (Chris Rock?! For god's sake! )
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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: January 17 2005 at 07:30
Syzygy wrote:
The Scottish genius Ivor Cutler also deserves a mention, although I suspect that neither of these will make sense to anbody outside the UK.
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A surreal and subtle wit. Good suggestion.
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Posted By: Metropolis
Date Posted: January 17 2005 at 07:45
No Chris Morris? Come on people, the man's a comedy genius.
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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: January 17 2005 at 07:54
Metropolis wrote:
No Chris Morris? Come on people, the man's a comedy genius. |
No denying that Metropolis
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Posted By: mirco
Date Posted: January 17 2005 at 08:06
What about the humour mixed with music? There is an argentina band call Les Luthiers, that makes it's own instruments from a very strange sort of materials: toilet seats, labs tubes, various sizes cans, etc. Those instruments actually works, and they play in live concerts with them. Its shows are ilarius, at least the two which I had the chance to attend.
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Posted By: emdiar
Date Posted: January 17 2005 at 10:15
Posted By: maani
Date Posted: January 17 2005 at 15:39
All:
I hesitate to get all philosophical on you (sure...), but...
First, comedy, like music, is largely about taste: what is "funny" to one person may not be funny to another. Second, I think there is a difference between actors who do comedy (i.e., "comedic actors") and "real" comedians, who focus on their comedy (even if they happen to do a few movies). In this regard, we would seem to require two separate lists.
The poll list clearly reflects a "youthful" perspective. There is virtually no one - either comedic actor or comedian - pre-1960s.
For example, where are Milton Berle (who practically invented "visual" comedy, being the first comedian with a TV show), Jack Benny, Alan King, Red Buttons, Red Skelton, Morey Amsterdam, Peter Sellers and virtually the entire cast of "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World," including Jonathan Winters (how on earth did all of you forget him?), Dick Shawn (arguably the funniest man who ever lived), Sid Caesar, Don Knotts, Phil Silvers, Buddy Hackett, Mickey Rooney, Terry-Thomas, Jimmy Durante et al?
Where are the early TV-based comedians - Jackie Gleason, Art Carney, Lucille Ball et al - who blazed the trail for the "sit-com," and stars from Carroll O'Connor to Ray Romano? Indeed, as an aside, not a single female comedienne or comedic actor has been mentioned: from Lucille Ball, Audrey Meadows, Joyce Randolph, Phyllis Diller and Zasu Pitts to Jean Stapleton, Elayne Boosler, Rita Rudner et al. And, as many have noted, also missing are the pioneers of film comedy, including Buster Keaton, Charlie Chaplin, The Marx Brothers, Laurel & Hardy, Abbott & Costelle et al.
Also missing are the trail-blazing stand-up comedians (all of whom eventually went into film), including Woody Allen (completely forgotten here!!), Robin Williams, Steve Martin (how could all of you forget him?) and Eddie Murphy, who blazed the trail followed by Jim Carrey, Chris Rock, Martin Lawrence, Dennis Miller, Dennis Leary, Steven Wright et al.
Finally, missing is any mention of "Borscht Belt" comics like Myron Cohen, Zero Mostel, Jackie Mason et al, who created an entire genre which survives to this day; indeed, you would not have George Carlin without them.
Even given all of the above, I know I am leaving out many, many important names - innovators, influencers, trailblazers. And one member is entirely correct that we are being very "english-speaking-centric" about this list. There are dozens of major comedians in other countries.
Again, my apologies for "waxing philosophical." But comedy is, after all...serious business.
Peace.
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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: January 17 2005 at 22:02
Just thought we'd gone too long without mentioning him again.
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Posted By: maani
Date Posted: January 20 2005 at 12:40
Thought all of you might find this apropos:
"Alebachew Teka, Ethiopian Comedian, Dies at 43 January 20, 2005 By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS ADDIS ABABA, Ethiopia, Jan. 19 (AP) - Alebachew Teka, a comedian and talk-show host who was a television star in Ethiopia, died on Sunday when his car careered off a road and plunged into a ravine, the police and his friends said. He was 43. Mr. Alebachew was driving from Addis Ababa to Jimma, 124 miles to the west, to film a documentary when the accident happened. A cameraman also died and another was seriously wounded, the police said.
More than 60,000 mourners attended Mr. Alebachew's funeral on Monday in Addis Ababa. Mr. Alebachew rose to prominence during the 1980's in a satirical television show that was a hit under the military dictatorship of Mengistu Haile Mariam. But his successful series, "The Alebe Show," brought him widespread fame. On it, Mr. Alebachew would persuade rich guests to pledge money to help the destitute."
60,000 people attended his funeral. Given the relative size of Ethiopia and the U.S., this would be the equivalent of over 300,000 people attending the funeral of, say, Ray Romano. This makes it clear that there are comedians in other countries who are every bit as "great" as those english-speaking comedians we have named.
Peace.
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Posted By: the musical box
Date Posted: January 20 2005 at 15:28
GEORGE CARLIN!!!!!!
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 15:20
I enjoy Lewis Black's anger-driven rants. Even if his routines are simply bitching and moaning, they are still funny as hell!
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Posted By: Glass-Prison
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 18:20
Seinfeld is the godfather of all sitcoms. All subsequent attempts at sitcoms have, at one time or another, plagiarized Seinfeld's genius. Plus, Seinfeld had that classy atmosphere about it that no sitcom to date has been able to duplicate!
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Posted By: maani
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 19:27
Glass-Prison:
Uh...hmmmm...well....maybe. But considering that Seinfeld is a relatively new sitcom as sitcoms go (there were three decades of sitcoms before it), and even if all subsequent sitcoms have been influenced (I'm using a nicer word...) by it (a statement I would not agree with), are you telling me that Larry David was not influenced by others before him?
I think that if you go through the history of sitcoms and TV comedy, you will find that Larry David did not "spring full-grown from the head of Zeus."
Peace.
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Posted By: mirco
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 19:39
Glass-Prison wrote:
Seinfeld is the godfather of all sitcoms. All subsequent attempts at sitcoms have, at one time or another, plagiarized Seinfeld's genius. Plus, Seinfeld had that classy atmosphere about it that no sitcom to date has been able to duplicate! | I think that Seinfield is the best sitcom I ever watched. The mood, the "sonofabitchness" of the characters, and the clever dialogs makes me enjoy every chapter (I think that I have seen it all at least twice).
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Posted By: felixxx
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 12:49
Posted By: felixxx
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 12:51
Where are MONTY PYTHONS!!!
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Posted By: Azrael2112
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 13:50
I can't believe no one mentioned Bill Cosby yet...One of my favorites
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