Blind Guardian?
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Topic: Blind Guardian?
Posted By: acheron
Subject: Blind Guardian?
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 21:48
| someone told me about these guys, he described them as "nerd metal", they sound pretty progressive. Does anyone listen to them? What is their sound like? |
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 21:54
Only someone who can't gasp the complexity will call it nerd metal Great symphonic power metal band(and the ONLY power metal band I like, the rest of it is far too cheesy and overblown for me). Their sound is quite progressive, I think that can be included here if crap cliched power metal bands like Rhapsody are here... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 21:57
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They sound like typical power metal with extra cheese.
I don't hear anything prog in their music. Maybe their operatic qualities make them somewhat progressive, but not enough to be included on this site. ------------- 
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Posted By: Kleynan
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 22:08
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They have a sound very inspired by Tolkien and Moorcock. They combine celtic music and power metal. I used to love them, when I was younger. But now that I've grown older, I've found the vocals a bit irritating. IMO they're sung in very homo-sexual way. ------------- 
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Posted By: Progshrike
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 23:04
 OKAY. Try "Nightfall In Middle Earth", based on "The Silmarillion" by Tolkien. They do alot of songs based on books from Tolkien to Frank Herbert so if this bothers you you might want to skip them. Musically they sound like a faster version of Iron Maiden crossed with Queen's vocal harmonies. Hope that helps. ------------- Did you ever think for yourself? Just once,did you ever think? That's all I want to know> |
Kleynan wrote:Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 23:05
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I tried to get into them,but have concluded i can't get into this style of music. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Duncan
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 23:15
Hahaha |
Posted By: Legoman
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 23:21
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I definitely think they should be in the archives. I brought up the idea a long time ago but it was shot down then, too... Oh well. Good luck... |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 10:38
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 12:57
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Great band, but you have to be careful to choose the right album for "first contact": Imaginations from the Other Side: Very Heavy, Fast, Technical Nightfall in Middle-Earth: Very Orchestral, Great Concept A Night at the Opera: A good mix of the above  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: Stars Die
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 13:14
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Great band, not very progressive though, they just released a new album... ------------- Du Skojar om att jag Skojar men jag skojar inte alls |
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 14:30
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I tried listening to them a couple of times. Thought they were sort of Helloween on steroids - not very progressive and an annoying (sometimes even boring) vocalist.
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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 14:40
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Great music,
"Somewhere far beyond" & "Nightfall in middle earth" my favourite |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 15:07
Love 'em- listening to that album now!
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 16:06
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^ I like the new album, but it's not *that* great. Those who picked A Night at the Opera as their favorite will love the new one, those who prefer Nightfall or Imaginations will probably be a little bit disappointed. But only slightly!
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Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 16:09
My favorites are 'Somewhwere Far Beyond' and 'Imaginations from the Other Side'. 'Opera' I had a hard time to get into, and still do. ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: Stars Die
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 20:42
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I really like A night at the Opera too, I think it's the most progressive of all of their releases... ------------- Du Skojar om att jag Skojar men jag skojar inte alls |
Posted By: Fitzcarraldo
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 20:53
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I have never heard anything by BLIND GUARDIAN, but have noticed their CDs in a few shops simply because of their covers, which are what could be considered 'proggy cover art'.
Are there any sites with (legal) MP3 samples typical of their music, so I can hear what they're like?
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 03:04
What makes it more progressive than Nightfall in Middle-Earth? ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 03:06
http://www.blind-guardian.com/new_version/media_sv.html - http://www.blind-guardian.com/new_version/media_sv.html |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 03:07
http://www.myspace.com/blindguardian - http://www.myspace.com/blindguardian I especially recommend "Time Stands Still" which is from Nightfall in Middle-Earth.  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 03:19
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my fav is Tales from the Twilight World... ------------- -music is like pornography... sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more... -sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue... |
Posted By: reality
Date Posted: September 11 2006 at 20:11
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This is a very good reason why the term "prog" is sooooooo insufficiant ( not everthing creative or complex is prog) and inapproriate when used as an adjective on this site! People say it is prog or not and the person who asked the initial question has to ask what the type of music sounds like?
I feel sorry for a new person to this site who is trying to find out what "prog" realy is; such a liberal application of a specific term is utterly confusing and irresponsible. Blind Guardian is a good Power Metal band (speed riffs, big chourus, many but slow transitioned time changes Etc...) from the German school. BG is influnced by classical music but not in any way influnced by "prog". BG is in the same family as Helloween and Angra (which is a compliment) and is unrelated to the sounds of Genesis, Yes, ELP ETC... They have a certin amount of complexity, inteligence, and virtuosity but not in the prog formula; therefore not "prog". They have great multi vocal choral work but yet again not of the "prog" formula.
Remember, when you look at new(to you) bands, people use the label "prog" or progressive as a badge of superiority, so when an intellegent, creative band that they like comes out they slap the "prog" label on it to mark them in the family of thier favarote bands. Sigur Ros therefore becomes related to ELP as "prog" and not related to Appleseed Cast or My Bloody Valintine which they are more suited for.
Complexity, virtuosity, length of songs, influnce from classical music are characteristics of "prog" and not the exclusitivity of "prog".
Blind Guardian is a good choice if you like power metal (at any level). Go to wikipedia and type up "power metal" or "Blind Guardian" and see what it says.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 12 2006 at 02:43
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"Complexity, virtuosity, length of songs, influnce from classical
music are characteristics of "prog" and not the exclusitivity of "prog"." That is exactly why I have separate ratings for "progressiveness" and "prog" on my website - and Blind Guardian are a very good example for a band that's not prog, but progressive ... at least on some albums. Have a look: http://www.progtology.com/db/artists/_auto_3411704.xhtml - Blind Guardian At the moment the genre of the band is determined as "Modern Prog-Related Power Metal/Folk" - I need to change "Prog-Related" to "Moderately Progressive" though, at the moment I don't discern the two tags when building the genre label. BTW: if you have a look at the discography tab it will make even more sense ... there you'll see that only two of their albums are rated as "prog-related/moderately progressive". ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Stars Die
Date Posted: September 13 2006 at 11:53
Haha, another discussion about the definition of Prog! Well, I find that hard to explain, I just feel that it is...
 maybe it is because it is more complexBut I have always thought hat Nightfall in middle-earth is the better of the two... ------------- Du Skojar om att jag Skojar men jag skojar inte alls |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: September 13 2006 at 20:22
| ^ it certainly is (and I also find it more complex) |