Best Freakin’ Hawkwind Album
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Topic: Best Freakin’ Hawkwind Album
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Subject: Best Freakin’ Hawkwind Album
Date Posted: March 02 2004 at 14:21
My previous polls on Guru Guru and freakout bands obviously didn't elicit much interest. Well, how about Hawkwind! There's got to be some of you out there who listen to Hawkwind! Maybe not a "prog" band in the truest sense but they did put out some good stuff which could be considered "prog" in one form or another during their long infamous career (even though they went through about 1,000,000 personelchanges!) You will notice that I veered away from their numerous compilations and live recordings some of which are even worse than Earthbound in terms of recording quality.
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Posted By: The Owl
Date Posted: March 02 2004 at 18:34
I also love "Hall Of The Mountain Grill" where the symphonic factor first kicked in (Kudos to SImon House).
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Posted By: dude
Date Posted: March 02 2004 at 18:44
ACTUALLY i think Hawkwind Fits right under the prog "Umbrella"!!! I cant name a specific album because so much good music came from all over the place!! but the very first album had "Be Yourself"(oh and the very different Hurry On Sundown!!!....geee if that was the only track you ever heard from Hawkwind you would REALLY get the wrong idea!!! ) "You Shouldn,t Do That" springs to mind to but i cant remember which album its on!!!(little help please. )
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Posted By: The Owl
Date Posted: March 02 2004 at 18:53
dude wrote:
ACTUALLY i think Hawkwind Fits right under the prog "Umbrella"!!! I cant name a specific album because so much good music came from all over the place!! but the very first album had "Be Yourself"(oh and the very different Hurry On Sundown!!!....geee if that was the only track you ever heard from Hawkwind you would REALLY get the wrong idea!!! ) "You Shouldn,t Do That" springs to mind to but i cant remember which album its on!!!(little help please. ) |
"You Shouldn't Do That" originally appeared on In Search of Space (pre-Lemmy).
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Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: March 02 2004 at 18:55
I can't vote because, although I've heard SOME Hawkwind, i don't know enough to give anything fair credit. Tell me, which disc is the single best Hawkwind recording?
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 03 2004 at 03:17
VB - Nice idea for a poll, but how to choose what albums to list, let alone vote for one
Of those listed, it has to be 'Warrior On The Edge' - I've seen Hawkwind many times over the years since the late '70s from huge festivals to small clubs & 'The Golden Void' does it to me every time.
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: March 03 2004 at 07:40
I've got 3 Hawkwind albums: Hawkwind, Doremi Fasol Latido, Spave Ritual.
I think Doremi Fasol Latido is the best. Why can't I pick that one? 
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 03 2004 at 10:27
danbo wrote:
I can't vote because, although I've heard SOME Hawkwind, i don't know enough to give anything fair credit. Tell me, which disc is the penultimate Hawkwind recording? |
Warrior On the Edge Of Time or Space Ritual
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 03 2004 at 12:38
Posted By: sonic_assassin
Date Posted: March 21 2004 at 11:06
A HW vote, what a good idea!
When I listen to HW these days, it tends to be obscure stuff from WinMX. I haven't listened to the mainstream albums (which I bought from legit sources btw) for many months! So I guess I'll re-listen to the voting candidates first...
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 22 2004 at 05:22
It was crossing the border between the States & Canada in 1975(?), when Lemmy was arrested for possession of speed - Robert Calvert & Dave Brock used this as an excuse to kick Lemmy out of the band - just a little bit of trivia for you.
Didn't know they were banned from Canada, though - I've always seen Canada as a beautiful place, always wanted to visit..... but you say it's getting screwed up - trust me, if you want screwed up, you should come back to the UK for a week - you're better off where you are, believe me.
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Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: March 22 2004 at 06:23
For me, hawkwind is certainly one of the best english (speaking) prog band with VDGG...I really like the way they compose freak'n roll music...I don't know all the stuffs you put in your list...but I think that I'm going to vote for 'space ritual'
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 22 2004 at 10:35
Jim Garten wrote:
It was crossing the border between the States & Canada in 1975(?), when Lemmy was arrested for possession of speed - Robert Calvert & Dave Brock used this as an excuse to kick Lemmy out of the band - just a little bit of trivia for you.
Didn't know they were banned from Canada, though - I've always seen Canada as a beautiful place, always wanted to visit..... but you say it's getting screwed up - trust me, if you want screwed up, you should come back to the UK for a week - you're better off where you are, believe me. | Believe me you wouldn`t want to visit this dump!
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: March 23 2004 at 17:09
Try "Palace Springs" for one of the most under rated of the Hawkwind albums. Two tracks in particular "Void of Golden Light" and "Lives of Great men", which link together to form one track, are superb. As an aside, the CD I have seems to list these two tracks in the wrong order, or was it a deliberate ploy by the band to name the tracks the wrong way round!?
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Posted By: dude
Date Posted: March 23 2004 at 21:26
EASY LIVIN:(this is a thing iv'e never known before!! great song!! love that "GROWLY" keyboard sound ) "LIVES OF GREAT MEN" is an excellent track and one of Hawkwinds most melodic in my opinion VIBRATIONBABY:there seems to be a general decline in moral and social cohesion in western society which to me is becoming increasingly more disturbing.Even here in Australia, generally a peaceful country and acountry i dearly love you will see such things as,rising youth and gang violence rising divorce rates and a general "coarsening" of behavior why this is i am not sure but i beleive that one of the flaws in the democratic system(still the best system though!) is that when you try to be "all things to all men" everyone starts to call for thier worldview to take precidence(i am right so do things my way!)(i also am concerned at our increasingly bizarre education system and the philosophies being foisted on our young people by for want of a better term "marxist Academics") if you also dismantle the concept of absolute moral authority(characterized in the west by the judeo-christian concept of moral responsibility to YAHWEH(I AM) and therefore also to man as embodied in the ten commandments etc..Now you may not beleive in god but the CONCEPT of a higher moral power has provided the basis for the constitutions of most of the worlds politically and socially stable(reletively) nations such as the U.S.A Britain Australia New Zealand and others) and replace it with the concept of moral reletavism(do what is right in your own eyes as long as you dont hurt anyone..it deosnt work..whats next Men marrying animals...and DONT tell me that people like that dont exist, if you take away moral absolutes then ANY PERVERSION BECOMES JUSTIFIABLE after all its "Human Rights" isnt it?))then you get the moral and social confusion that is causing much of the concern today....anyway...whatever the reason i do beleive there IS much to be concerened about...and at the risk of inviting scorn and laughter..i remember the words of LUKE 17:26-30 "As in the days of Noah and Lot so shall it be at the coming of the son of man(christs second coming) ......i await your mocking by the way VIBRATIONBABY you can always come to AUSTRALIA it really is a nice place....just watch out for all the crocs though!!
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 24 2004 at 16:18
I almost joined th Royal Australian Air Force back when I was young and idealogical but ended up in the Canadian Air Force instead. I don`t know how he is recieved in his home country but I get a kick out of Steve Irwin. There`s also a couple of Aussie comedians who are pretty harsh who I laugh my guts out over. Don`t get me wrong, despite the deterioration of the ways of the world we still live in perhaps the safest and sanest countries in the world but....... sometimes I say to my wife after having read the paper and watched a bit of news on the TV in the morning : "We might as well have the Klu Klux Klan running this country" with all the corruption within the Canadian Government we,ve had lately. Anyway back to Hawkwind. Easy Livin is right on the money about Palace Springs. Electric TeePee is also another one. A sonic masterpiece from the 1990`s with Hawkwind as a trio.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 24 2004 at 17:58
Vibrationbaby wrote:
My previous polls on Guru Guru and freakout bands obviously didn't elicit much interest. Well, how about Hawkwind! There's got to be some of you out there who listen to Hawkwind! Maybe not a "prog" band in the truest sense but they did put out some good stuff which could be considered "prog" in one form or another during their long infamous career (even though they went through about 1,000,000 personelchanges!) You will notice that I veered away from their numerous compilations and live recordings some of which are even worse than Earthbound in terms of recording quality. |
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 24 2004 at 18:01
Anyway, in my opinion the best is "In search of Space"...
Beware entropy law...AAAAARRGGGHHHHHHH!!!
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Posted By: sonic_assassin
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 04:34
Easy Livin wrote:
...the CD I have seems to list these two tracks in the wrong order, or was it a deliberate ploy by the band to name the tracks the wrong way round!? |
I wonder. I don't understand why Hawkwind muck around with track titles, eg Lives of Great Men = Assault & Battery and Void of Golden Light = The Golden Void
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 04:50
There are a LOT of great Hawkwind albums missing!!! How about "Doremi..", "Masters of the Universe", "Sonic Attack", "Live '79" (That version of Lighthouse is sublime, even if the version of "Washing Machine" sucks).
I voted for "Levitation", because it's the only one I don't have to be stoned to fully appreciate 
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 05:00
"Hall Of The Mountain Grill"
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Dream Theater
Terry Gilliam
Hagen Quartet
Jethro Tull
Mike Keneally
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Posted By: Petra
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 05:09
I voted for Space Ritual 
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 05:18
I voted Levitation, its their best technically. Its the best produced and they were at their most professional, with a reluctant Ginger baker on the drums and great performances from Huw Lloyd Langton.
I also love 'Hall of the mountain grill' for its atmosphere, and of course the classic 'Psychedelic warlords dissapear in smoke' I also liked 'Astounding Sounds, Amazing music' which was slated by many fans as being a sell out. I thought it was excellent quality, thoughtfull music and showed HW moving towards taking production and musicianship more seriously, although this was difficult with Simon King on Drums and Nik Turner being allowed anywhere near a vocal mike.
They're a great band, with a great history. Descrobed by Tommy Vance as British institution! Good even when they're crap 
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 06:42
Or........... Do Re Mi Fa So La Ti Do .......Or something !!!!!!!!
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Dream Theater
Terry Gilliam
Hagen Quartet
Jethro Tull
Mike Keneally
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Posted By: AngelRat
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 07:16
I voted 'Warrior on the Edge of Time'. It's impossible to just name one fav. They made too many great albums. And some sh*tty ones as well.
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 08:58
Both with a band with a big record catalogue and Progarchive's polling
system which allows for what 20+ choices, why aren't we given the
breadth of choice? This poll with limited choice reflects a
considerable bias. My favourite and in fact the only album I cared for
by Hawkwind, is The Night Of The Hawk - title track was a mighty fine single. Where's the tick box for that????????????????
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 15:14
Dick Heath wrote:
Both with a band with a big record catalogue and Progarchive's polling system which allows for what 20+ choices, why aren't we given the breadth of choice? This poll with limited choice reflects a considerable bias. My favourite and in fact the only album I cared for by Hawkwind, is The Night Of The Hawk - title track was a mighty fine single. Where's the tick box for that???????????????? |
I think the limited number of choices is well reflected by the number of votes cast!
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Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 16:42
My all time fave Hawkwind album is 'Warrior...', but I admit that 'Space Ritual' and 'Doremi...' (why not listed here?) are more representative of Hawkwind's raw / heavy rock drive. 'Hall' and 'Warrior' belong to a specific era of the band's career, an era of sophistication and certain exquisiteness (lots of mellotron and violin parts, which take the psyh thing closer to prog standards, while not losing its freaking edge).
Regards.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 17:44
'Quark Strangeness and Charm' -it's the only one I've got!
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 19:54
I remember buying the debut Hawkwind album on vinyl. it was so good I scored a few extra grooves on it with a screwdriver so it would go straight to the middle and eject! Hawkwind must be the most inconsistent band on the planet, able to inspire and irritate often in the same track. Very sloppy I think.
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 22:26
The Owl wrote:
I also love "Hall Of The Mountain Grill" where the symphonic factor first kicked in (Kudos to SImon House). | Hall Of The Mountain Grill is one of my faves. That live version of You Better Believe It is simply killer!
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 22:29
Blacksword wrote:
I voted Levitation, its their best technically. Its the best produced and they were at their most professional, with a reluctant Ginger baker on the drums and great performances from Huw Lloyd Langton.
I also love 'Hall of the mountain grill' for its atmosphere, and of course the classic 'Psychedelic warlords dissapear in smoke' I also liked 'Astounding Sounds, Amazing music' which was slated by many fans as being a sell out. I thought it was excellent quality, thoughtfull music and showed HW moving towards taking production and musicianship more seriously, although this was difficult with Simon King on Drums and Nik Turner being allowed anywhere near a vocal mike.
They're a great band, with a great history. Descrobed by Tommy Vance as British institution! Good even when they're crap  | Ginger Baker even wanted to call the band Ginger Baker's Hawkwind but Brock said F*** you and that was the end of that Hawkwind incarnation.
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 22:32
AngelRat wrote:
I voted 'Warrior on the Edge of Time'. It's impossible to just name one fav. They made too many great albums. And some sh*tty ones as well.
| Ithink Edge Of Time Was th most "prog" Hawkwind album.
"And then the wizard blew his horn."
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 22:37
Cesar Inca wrote:
My all time fave Hawkwind album is 'Warrior...', but I admit that 'Space Ritual' and 'Doremi...' (why not listed here?) are more representative of Hawkwind's raw / heavy rock drive. 'Hall' and 'Warrior' belong to a specific era of the band's career, an era of sophistication and certain exquisiteness (lots of mellotron and violin parts, which take the psyh thing closer to prog standards, while not losing its freaking edge).
Regards.
| Next time I post a poll I will list the whole band's catalogue. Just kidding iI selected these albums because the are the ones I have been listening to recently.
Best Regards,
VB.
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Posted By: emdiar
Date Posted: September 04 2004 at 06:47
Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters,
Quark, Strangeness and Charm,
Church of Hawkwind.
(Not necessarily in that order)
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: September 04 2004 at 09:19
Church Of Hawkwind is almost a Dave Brock Solo album to me neverthess it is one of my faves. But captain Lockheed was a Bob Calvert solo album. He was originally from South Africa and it was his childhood dream to become a fighter pilot.
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Posted By: emdiar
Date Posted: September 04 2004 at 10:23
Yes Vibe, I've got all the Bob Calvert solo stuff, including the v. collectable original CL&TSF vinyl on UA with gatefold cover and lyric insert. Though officially a solo album it has everything that's great about Hawkwind, and in spades. It is every bit as much a Hawkwind album as "Church.." is, which as you so rightly point out, is pretty much a Brock fest.
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