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Topic: First power metal album ever

Posted By: aapatsos
Subject: First power metal album ever
Date Posted: March 21 2006 at 09:05

I always wondered about this question.

Which is the first ever power metal album?

IMO it has to be QUEENSRYCHE'S EP (1983) !!!

Although they evolved afterwards, I find this to be an excellent pure power metal album

Am I the only one???

Note: I don't consider bands that were in the NWOBHM genre etc. that can be classified as proto-power , I mean power metal as it is considered nowadays (Helloween etc.)

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: March 21 2006 at 09:18

I'd suggest Iron Maiden's debut. Somewhere around 1980 there is a transition between NWOBHM and "Modern" Power Metal ...

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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 21 2006 at 09:33

How about "Battle Hymns" of MANOWAR released in 1982?

PANTERA: "Metal Magic" (1983)

RATT: "Ratt" (miniCD 1983)

SAVATAGE: "Sirens" (1983)

VIRGIN STEELE: "Virgin Steele" (1982)

AGENT STEEL: "The Unstoppable Force" (1982)

Posted By: Rising Force
Date Posted: March 21 2006 at 09:51

I always considered Iron Maiden to be the original power metal band...

Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: March 21 2006 at 10:33

I disagree with Iron Maiden as power metal, maybe a transition as Mike said

ANDREW:

Battle hymns: epic metal

Pantera: Not much of power metal, kind of hard/glam rock in their early days

Ratt: NWOBHM

Sirens: very close to power metal, mostly heavy metal

Virgin Steele: same as above, more of epic/heavy metal

The unstoppable force: 1987 (the first time I caught you not well informed)

Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: March 21 2006 at 11:10

Remember that there are two different types of Power Metal: European and American:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_metal - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_metal

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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: March 21 2006 at 11:32

^ definitely agree Mike

European: Helloween, Blind Guardian etc.

American: Heathen, Agent Steel, Hades etc.

American Power has a more thrashy approach...

Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 21 2006 at 11:41

What is Power Metal? How come Iron Maiden are? I've been lis=tening to them from the beginning and never heard them described thus.

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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: March 21 2006 at 11:50

^ Powerslave has some 'power metal' moments...

but generally, no, they are not considered power metal

Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: March 21 2006 at 13:18

Snow Dog wrote:

What is Power Metal? How come Iron Maiden are? I've been lis=tening to them from the beginning and never heard them described thus.

Well, there is a definitive connection between Iron Maiden and Helloween ... I think that Iron Maiden are forerunners of Power Metal - the only problem is that a) they started in another genre (NWOBHM) and b) the label "Power Metal" simply hadn't been "invented" yet back then.

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 21 2006 at 13:42

MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

What is Power Metal? How come Iron Maiden are? I've been lis=tening to them from the beginning and never heard them described thus.

Nwobhm is not a genre surely?

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: March 21 2006 at 13:55

Snow Dog wrote:

MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

What is Power Metal? How come Iron Maiden are? I've been lis=tening to them from the beginning and never heard them described thus.

Nwobhm is not a genre surely?

New Wave of British Heavy Metal:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NWOBHM - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NWOBHM

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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: March 21 2006 at 14:08

Besides there seems to be numerous power metal bands that sound very similar to iron maiden

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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: March 21 2006 at 14:14

Aaah, Manowar
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The right to conquer every shore
Hold your ground and give no more
Manowar
Born to live forever more
The right to conquer every shore
Manowar
Born to live forever more
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: March 21 2006 at 15:14

Posted By: spo1977
Date Posted: March 22 2006 at 05:05

I want to say Black Sabbath "Heaven and Hell". 1980 right?

Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 22 2006 at 05:35

MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

What is Power Metal? How come Iron Maiden are? I've been lis=tening to them from the beginning and never heard them described thus.

Nwobhm is not a genre surely?

New Wave of British Heavy Metal:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NWOBHM - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NWOBHM

So not a genre then.

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: March 22 2006 at 05:45

That would depend on your definition of "genre". NWOBHM is a good genre definition in my opinion, as all those bands share some key properties. I'd say that it is as much a genre as Canterbury, RIO or Bay Area Thrash.

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 22 2006 at 05:47

MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^

That wikipedia certainly is a good definition for some of the bands, but not all................ok maybe your right.

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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: March 22 2006 at 08:00

^ NWOBHM is definitely a genre!

spo: Heaven and Hell is mainly heavy metal IMO, but you are right in a way if you consider Neon Knights...

Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 22 2006 at 08:18

aapatsos wrote:

^ NWOBHM is definitely a genre!

No, Asbestos, I disagree!

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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: March 22 2006 at 08:39

Snow Dog wrote:

aapatsos wrote:

^ NWOBHM is definitely a genre!

No, Asbestos, I disagree!

???

Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: March 22 2006 at 11:04

In my opinion, NWOBHM is as much a genre as Classic Rock. It is associated with a certain sound and, more importantly, era that, for example, just like groups who copy The Beatles nowadays aren't called Classic Rock because they make music now, not in the 60/70's; so groups who do music in the style of Iron Maiden and early Judas Priest are now called Traditional/Heavy/Speed/whatever instead of NWOBHM since the "new wave" got old.

-- Ivan

Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 22 2006 at 11:08

Classic Rock is a Genre?

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: March 22 2006 at 11:40

Snow Dog wrote:

Classic Rock is a Genre?

gen·re

(zhän

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1. A type or class: "Emaciated famine victims ... on television focused a new genre of attention on the continent" Helen Kitchen.

a. A category of artistic composition, as in music or literature, marked by a distinctive style, form, or content: "his six String Quartets ... the most important works in the genre since Beethoven's" Time.

b. A realistic style of painting that depicts scenes from everyday life.

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 22 2006 at 12:04

MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Classic Rock is a Genre?

gen·re javascript play'G0086800'" target=_blank onmouseout="m_out" onmouseover="return m_over'Click to hear pronunciation'">

(zhän

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1. A type or class: "Emaciated famine victims ... on television focused a new genre of attention on the continent" Helen Kitchen.

b. A realistic style of painting that depicts scenes from everyday life.

I didn't say I didn't know what genre meant.

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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: March 22 2006 at 12:29

aapatsos wrote:

^ NWOBHM is definitely a genre!

spo: Heaven and Hell is mainly heavy metal IMO, but you are right in a way if you consider Neon Knights...

i have always considered NWOBHM as not a specific genre or sub-genre of heavy rock/metal but is more of a description of the players, musicians from Britain around the early 80's.

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: March 22 2006 at 13:09

Snow Dog wrote:

MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Classic Rock is a Genre?

gen·re javascript play'G0086800'" target=_blank onmouseout="m_out" onmouseover="return m_over'Click to hear pronunciation'">

(zhän

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1. A type or class: "Emaciated famine victims ... on television focused a new genre of attention on the continent" Helen Kitchen.

b. A realistic style of painting that depicts scenes from everyday life.

I didn't say I didn't know what genre meant.

NWOBHM is a genre by that definition ... it marks a distinctive style, form or content. That's why I posted these definitions ...

Maybe we would get somewhere if you explained why NWOBHM or Classic Rock aren't genres in your opinion?

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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: March 22 2006 at 13:55

mystic fred wrote:

aapatsos wrote:

^ NWOBHM is definitely a genre!

spo: Heaven and Hell is mainly heavy metal IMO, but you are right in a way if you consider Neon Knights...

i have always considered NWOBHM as not a specific genre or sub-genre of heavy rock/metal but is more of a description of the players, musicians from Britain around the early 80's.

I don't think so, NWOBHM was a metal 'movement', that consisted of various bands who had a similar sound... early Maiden, Ratt, Raven, Diamond Head etc.

Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: March 22 2006 at 13:56

But we're getting out of the subject here, it's not about NWOBHM, it's about the first POWER metal album

let me here your thoughts...

Posted By: unclemeat69
Date Posted: December 14 2007 at 14:43

aapatsos wrote:

mystic fred wrote:

aapatsos wrote:

^ NWOBHM is definitely a genre!

spo: Heaven and Hell is mainly heavy metal IMO, but you are right in a way if you consider Neon Knights...

i have always considered NWOBHM as not a specific genre or sub-genre of heavy rock/metal but is more of a description of the players, musicians from Britain around the early 80's.

I don't think so, NWOBHM was a metal 'movement', that consisted of various bands who had a similar sound... early Maiden, Ratt, Raven, Diamond Head etc.

For the record Ratt was never a nwobhm band, they're not even british!!
They may be an influence on later power metal

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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: December 14 2007 at 15:06

^ agreed, my mistake... that was a long time ago.....

Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: December 14 2007 at 15:13

whern I was a young kid (14 when Manowar's Battle Hymns was released), they were generally considered as being the fathers of Power Metal, as distinct from NWOBHM....

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Posted By: Damjan
Date Posted: December 14 2007 at 18:03

Anvil's Metal on Metal(83) is an early power metal album nobody else mentioned but i don't know if its the first

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