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Topic: Metallica’s St. Anger.....???
Posted By: aapatsos
Subject: Metallica’s St. Anger.....???
Date Posted: January 08 2006 at 18:16

I know it's been about 2 years since that release but ....

I posted this topic to express my disgust for this "album" (GOD forgive me)

Although I am a huge fan of Metallica, this is the worst album I have ever heard in my life.

I really can't find something worse. I even believe that Load/Reload were "ok".

What is your opinion? My apologies if this thread has occured in the past




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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: January 08 2006 at 18:28

This album sucks ass!



Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 08 2006 at 18:39
I love it!

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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: January 08 2006 at 19:03
All this makes me want to hear it

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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: January 08 2006 at 19:56
hmmm... an album in which one of the greatest lead guitarists of metal doesn't lead?  not for me, thanks.

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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: January 08 2006 at 20:59
I don't like any Metallica. I especially don't like this. Early Metallica has the influential factor. This album is just useless, to me.

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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 06:46

Originally posted by GoldenSpiral GoldenSpiral wrote:

hmmm... an album in which one of the greatest lead guitarists of metal doesn't lead?  not for me, thanks.

yep,  not a single phrase or solo... shame



Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 06:54
I never understood the hype around Kirk Hammet. His solos are great, but frankly ... as far as innovation is concerned, Hetfield was always better.

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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 06:59

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I never understood the hype around Kirk Hammet. His solos are great, but frankly ... as far as innovation is concerned, Hetfield was always better.

I definitely agree with you, but he is supposed to be the lead guitarist on this album...



Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 08:33
I think it's a good album (I even purchased it a couple of weeks ago...). I miss Kirk's solos, but it's a good album overall.

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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 09:09

Metallica's music is evolving, innovating and reeinventing heavy metal album by album.

I give them credit for the carrier and for the cut "Some Kind of Monster"

I miss the old Metallica! Oh the glory days before the Black Album!



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Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 11:14
The beggining of the song St.Anger sounds like a José Cid MP3 available in the archives.

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 11:41
It's a cool album. If it had been released by any other band, it would not have been received that badly ... most Metallica fans had expected either a return to the roots, something like Justice or the Black album.

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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 12:56

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

It's a cool album. If it had been released by any other band, it would not have been received that badly ... most Metallica fans had expected either a return to the roots, something like Justice or the Black album.

I agree with the first part

but most Metallica fans awaited to hear music, not kitchen pans pounding....



Posted By: Rising Force
Date Posted: January 10 2006 at 04:02
Really, I'm sick of Metallica and all their BS. Their music got old for me a long time ago and I find them totally over rated. I didn't bother picking up this album, and probably never will pick up any other Metallica album, but from I've heard from it, I think it's crap. But I love all the St. Anger bashing, so let's just hope for another Metallica album in the vein of St. Anger. 




Posted By: Rising Force
Date Posted: January 10 2006 at 04:11
Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

I posted this topic to express my disgust for this "album" (GOD forgive me)





Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 10 2006 at 06:32
Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

It's a cool album. If it had been released by any other band, it would not have been received that badly ... most Metallica fans had expected either a return to the roots, something like Justice or the Black album.

I agree with the first part

but most Metallica fans awaited to hear music, not kitchen pans pounding....

It's not nearly as bad as that. It's just so different than any previous drum kit ...



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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 10 2006 at 06:40
I agree with Mike on just about all his points. Lead guitar is not a metallica strongpoint anyway, not for me at least. As for the "Black" album, I think its highly over regarded and rather boring.

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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: January 10 2006 at 07:31
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

It's a cool album. If it had been released by any other band, it would not have been received that badly ... most Metallica fans had expected either a return to the roots, something like Justice or the Black album.

I agree with the first part

but most Metallica fans awaited to hear music, not kitchen pans pounding....

It's not nearly as bad as that. It's just so different than any previous drum kit ...

are you sure is a drum kit ....?

sounds pretty awful to me, they tried to promote this 'garage' feeling... no success

i find it uninspired



Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: January 10 2006 at 08:30
Not among my favourite Metallica's albums...

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Posted By: Shark Sandwich
Date Posted: January 10 2006 at 09:15
Originally posted by Majestic_Mayhem Majestic_Mayhem wrote:

Metallica's music is evolving, innovating and reeinventing heavy metal album by album.

You should be a comedian. And where'd you get that 'reinventing metal' crap? All I hear on 'St. Anger' is recycled Korn, Kyuss and Sabbath riffs.



Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 10 2006 at 10:09
^ I think that they pretty much reinvented themselves with every album (if you see Load/Re-Load as one double album). And they reinvented Metal with every album except St. Anger, so MM has a point here.

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Posted By: PROGMAN
Date Posted: January 10 2006 at 10:26

The Eighties era is better MORE PROGRESSIVENESS TO SOME OF THEIR SONGS.

Try "Call of Ktulu" for a good progressive track.



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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: January 10 2006 at 10:46
Originally posted by Shark Sandwich Shark Sandwich wrote:

Originally posted by Majestic_Mayhem Majestic_Mayhem wrote:

Metallica's music is evolving, innovating and reeinventing heavy metal album by album.

You should be a comedian. And where'd you get that 'reinventing metal' crap? All I hear on 'St. Anger' is recycled Korn, Kyuss and Sabbath riffs.

cant blame you. I understand, if you dont get what ive said. And pls, be a bit kinder on your comments next time, that kind of comment wont get you anywhere here. Thanks.



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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: January 10 2006 at 10:48

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ I think that they pretty much reinvented themselves with every album (if you see Load/Re-Load as one double album). And they reinvented Metal with every album except St. Anger, so MM has a point here.

thanks Mike!



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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: January 10 2006 at 12:29

uuuu St Anger sucks big time...huge time...if there ever was time for sucking this album took it all!!!

Its bad...baaaaaaaaaaaaaad...but all Metallica albums are bad after The black album for me...but this, is beyond bad...its beyond crap...beyond nuclear crap...beyond the nuclear crap your dog ate and spit after...ok, Ill stop now...



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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: January 10 2006 at 13:09
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

uuuu St Anger sucks big time...huge time...if there ever was time for sucking this album took it all!!!

Its bad...baaaaaaaaaaaaaad...but all Metallica albums are bad after The black album for me...but this, is beyond bad...its beyond crap...beyond nuclear crap...beyond the nuclear crap your dog ate and spit after...ok, Ill stop now...

 that will do...



Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 12 2006 at 12:26
I can't stand to listen to the albumbut when they played a few cuts from it in concert they really weren't that bad. The production takes so much away.

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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: January 13 2006 at 13:51

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I can't stand to listen to the albumbut when they played a few cuts from it in concert they really weren't that bad. The production takes so much away.

well thats a possibility

but I dont think its the production which is ruining it, its the songs themselves



Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: January 13 2006 at 15:58
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

It's a cool album. If it had been released by any other band, it would not have been received that badly ... most Metallica fans had expected either a return to the roots, something like Justice or the Black album.

I agree with the first part

but most Metallica fans awaited to hear music, not kitchen pans pounding....

It's not nearly as bad as that. It's just so different than any previous drum kit ...



Yes, in that the snare was replaced with a big red rubber dodgeball. *POOOONG! POOOONG*

I think Bob Rock needs to be given the hugest Uber Wedgie of all time for contributing to the ruin of one of the most influential metal bands of the entire genre.

I'm all for bands evolving, I just don't dig where thy went, personally. Also, I think that when a band start sounding like the bands _they've_ influenced (Slipnot, Korn, etc.)... it's time to pack it in.


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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: January 13 2006 at 17:18
Originally posted by Empathy Empathy wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

It's a cool album. If it had been released by any other band, it would not have been received that badly ... most Metallica fans had expected either a return to the roots, something like Justice or the Black album.

I agree with the first part

but most Metallica fans awaited to hear music, not kitchen pans pounding....

It's not nearly as bad as that. It's just so different than any previous drum kit ...



Yes, in that the snare was replaced with a big red rubber dodgeball. *POOOONG! POOOONG*

I think Bob Rock needs to be given the hugest Uber Wedgie of all time for contributing to the ruin of one of the most influential metal bands of the entire genre.

I'm all for bands evolving, I just don't dig where thy went, personally. Also, I think that when a band start sounding like the bands _they've_ influenced (Slipnot, Korn, etc.)... it's time to pack it in.

 for the first one

you're soooooo right IMO for the 2nd one



Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: January 13 2006 at 17:45

Some quotations from Mr James H. :

"Napster baaaaaaaaaaad!!!"

"Money Gooooooood!!!"

or:

"Thinking baaaaaad!!!"

"Beer gooooooood!!!"



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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: January 14 2006 at 10:42

Making a crappy-sounding, aggressive, 'garage' album wasn't a bad idea. Shame about the final product, though.



Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: January 14 2006 at 16:56
Originally posted by Ed_The_Dead Ed_The_Dead wrote:

Some quotations from Mr James H. :

"Napster baaaaaaaaaaad!!!"

"Money Gooooooood!!!"

or:

"Thinking baaaaaad!!!"

"Beer gooooooood!!!"

Good one, Ed. I thought this was exactly what they were thinking when they made this album



Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: January 14 2006 at 18:12

St. Anger can't even come close to Union!



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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: January 14 2006 at 18:34
Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by Ed_The_Dead Ed_The_Dead wrote:

Some quotations from Mr James H. :

"Napster baaaaaaaaaaad!!!"

"Money Gooooooood!!!"

or:

"Thinking baaaaaad!!!"

"Beer gooooooood!!!"

Good one, Ed. I thought this was exactly what they were thinking when they made this album

I haven't made this up, Flossy!!!

Some of those are real quotes!

http://www.campchaos.com/show.php?iID=233 - http://www.campchaos.com/show.php?iID=233

(cracks me up everytime I see it - I totally hate metallicock)



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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: January 14 2006 at 18:47
SHOULD BE CALLED "St. Crap"

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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: January 14 2006 at 19:25

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

SHOULD BE CALLED "St. Crap"

I prefer St. Upid.

I couldn't believe my ears when I heard Load (of Crap) - what drivel!!!

Metallica's first 4 albums showed a clear path of re-invention and re-definition both of the band and the entire Metal genre. Even the 5th is revolutionary in many ways.

What is revolutionary about Load?

It's dry, boring, ordinary Rock music.

If it was done by anyone else, it wouldn't have sold as well - I bought it through curiosity - the early stuff had been brilliant, what would that sound like?

I needn't have bothered - I felt stitched up. I still think it's crap more than 10 years later.

And St. Anger is better than Load or Reload (Two Loads of Crap!), but it's not even nearly as radical or progressive as the early material.

And I don't like it either.

It's stupid!



Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: January 14 2006 at 21:35
Originally posted by Ed_The_Dead Ed_The_Dead wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by Ed_The_Dead Ed_The_Dead wrote:

Some quotations from Mr James H. :

"Napster baaaaaaaaaaad!!!"

"Money Gooooooood!!!"

or:

"Thinking baaaaaad!!!"

"Beer gooooooood!!!"

Good one, Ed. I thought this was exactly what they were thinking when they made this album

I haven't made this up, Flossy!!!

Some of those are real quotes!

http://www.campchaos.com/show.php?iID=233 - http://www.campchaos.com/show.php?iID=233

(cracks me up everytime I see it - I totally hate metallicock)

Off topic/

Have you tried Slayer?

/ on topic



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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: January 15 2006 at 08:13
Originally posted by Bj-1 Bj-1 wrote:

Originally posted by Ed_The_Dead Ed_The_Dead wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by Ed_The_Dead Ed_The_Dead wrote:

Some quotations from Mr James H. :

"Napster baaaaaaaaaaad!!!"

"Money Gooooooood!!!"

or:

"Thinking baaaaaad!!!"

"Beer gooooooood!!!"

Good one, Ed. I thought this was exactly what they were thinking when they made this album

I haven't made this up, Flossy!!!

Some of those are real quotes!

http://www.campchaos.com/show.php?iID=233 - http://www.campchaos.com/show.php?iID=233

(cracks me up everytime I see it - I totally hate metallicock)

Off topic/

Have you tried Slayer?

/ on topic

Jup - Diden't like it.

Although Araya and co. aren't as sh!t as Metalicock...

Megadeth pwns them all!



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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: January 15 2006 at 08:51

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

SHOULD BE CALLED "St. Crap"



Posted By: Peace Frog
Date Posted: January 15 2006 at 10:49
It's called St. Anger because it infuriates me with its crappiness.

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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: January 15 2006 at 11:16

Originally posted by Peace Frog Peace Frog wrote:

It's called St. Anger because it infuriates me with its crappiness.



Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: January 15 2006 at 11:22
Sr. Anger Sucks.  Don't Waste Your Money


Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: January 20 2006 at 08:20

Originally posted by Asyte2c00 Asyte2c00 wrote:

Sr. Anger Sucks.  Don't Waste Your Money

not a single penny... or cent...



Posted By: Erotomania
Date Posted: January 20 2006 at 11:38
horrible record...nu-metalish songs, no solos, and the drums sound truly horrible...i miss cliff burton's age...

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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: January 20 2006 at 20:44
I have only heard one song from the album dident sound very good...  

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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: January 22 2006 at 01:08
I heard it only once... material in my opinion. Not Metalica fan,I admit,and not into hard-rock either,but I did find more pleasure in other albums than this...

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Posted By: chromaticism
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 14:57

IT'S A BIG DISAPPOINTMENT!  Being a fan of their older works (from Kill Em All to the black one), this shattered my expectations of Metallica going back to their more interesting ways.  My reasons are as follows:

- Nu-Metal sounding.

- Poor production.

- NO GUITAR SOLOS!



Posted By: moonlapse
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 20:27
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

It's a cool album. If it had been released by any other band, it would not have been received that badly ... most Metallica fans had expected either a return to the roots, something like Justice or the Black album.


It probably got more recognition than it deserved, simply because it was released by Metallica (it's Metallica, so it must be good...).  If any other band had released this I think it would have been received much worse.


Posted By: zaxx
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 17:11

I always liked every Metallica album, from the thrashy early days to the most commercial releases of the mid 90s. When "St Anger" came out, I was expecting a mix of "Kill Them All" and the Black album... and got this bulls**t instead. Sound is horrible, production is horrible... I've not seen anything worse since except Annihilator's "Waking The Fury".

If someone wants to hear what should have been the real follow-up to the Load/Reaload albums, try Paradise Lost's "Symbol Of Life".



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Posted By: sbrushfan
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 17:34

I enjoyed it, I gotta say.  Sure, it was no "...AND JUSTICE FOR ALL" or "MASTER OF PUPPETS". Sure; they're great albums, but if you want those, go listen to them.  Someone said that Metallica is always changing, and I can see that. 

KILL EM ALL: Mostly speedy, with no time to catch one's breath.

RIDE THE LIGHTNING: Quiet, melancholic parts mixed with speedier onslaughts.

MASTER OF PUPPETS: No doubt; one of the greatest metal discs of all time.  RIDE THE LIGTNING and KILL EM ALL times 5.

...AND JUSTICE FOR ALL: The lyrics are better, as is the music.  A quantum leap in quality up from MOP.

METALLICA:  Their mainstream breakthrough; more commerical, shorter, more melodic songs, but a lot of thought went into them.  I can tell these were well-written tunes, with huge hooks.  No wonder it sold a pantload.

LOAD/RE-LOAD: I didn't get 'em, simply because they sounded like a step DOWN in quality.  What happened to the melody?

ST. ANGER: Awful production, but well-written songs. If you're gonna dump on one, you might as well dump on all of 'em. The production AND writing credits read "Metallica and Bob Rock."

So, it's a natural progression.  Maybe they'll do...prog-death next time.

 



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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 15:11
Originally posted by sbrushfan sbrushfan wrote:

ST. ANGER: Awful production, but well-written songs. If you're gonna dump on one, you might as well dump on all of 'em. The production AND writing credits read "Metallica and Bob Rock."

where can you support the argument of well-written songs????

all the songs are based on one extremely simple riff with no lead guitars at all and lyrics that are repeated over and over again...



Posted By: Crushed Aria
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 16:36
Horrible album from a sub-par band.

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Posted By: sbrushfan
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 17:04
Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

Originally posted by sbrushfan sbrushfan wrote:

ST. ANGER: Awful production, but well-written songs. If you're gonna dump on one, you might as well dump on all of 'em. The production AND writing credits read "Metallica and Bob Rock."

where can you support the argument of well-written songs????

all the songs are based on one extremely simple riff with no lead guitars at all and lyrics that are repeated over and over again...

 

WELL-WRITTEN SONGS...should have put IMO in there.  I do believe they put thought and time into the songs they wrote.  I fully believe that James was telling stories in his lyrics.  That's why I sad what I said.  No lead guitar?  So bloody what?  Has that been in vogue lately?  No.  Simple riffs?  So?  Who cares?  Listen to it for what it is...a decent album.  Bravo, guys.



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Posted By: Rising Force
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 17:45
Originally posted by sbrushfan sbrushfan wrote:

MASTER OF PUPPETS: No doubt; one of the greatest metal discs of all time.  RIDE THE LIGTNING and KILL EM ALL times 5.


Metallica used to be my favorite band a while ago, but now their music has gotten old to me, especially that album. I think Ride the Lightning is better. My problem with Master of Puppets is mainly the first three songs.... Battery doesn't flow, Master of Puppets sounds constipated and drags on for too long, and The Thing That Should Not Be sounds retarded, IMO. And I prefer Fade to Black over Welcome Home. But I really like Disposable Heroes (my favorite Metallica song), Leppar Messiah is ok, Orion is brilliant (mostly on Cliff's part), and Damage Inc. is good.  And the whole tone of the album, as usual for Metallica, sounds really anal. Of course, my opinion doesn't change the fact that it's one of the greatest metal albums, but I think it's over hyped and I've heard much better, IMO.


Posted By: sbrushfan
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 18:02

Originally posted by Rising Force Rising Force wrote:

Originally posted by sbrushfan sbrushfan wrote:

MASTER OF PUPPETS: No doubt; one of the greatest metal discs of all time.  RIDE THE LIGTNING and KILL EM ALL times 5.


Metallica used to be my favorite band a while ago, but now their music has gotten old to me, especially that album. I think Ride the Lightning is better. My problem with Master of Puppets is mainly the first three songs.... Battery doesn't flow, Master of Puppets sounds constipated and drags on for too long, and The Thing That Should Not Be sounds retarded, IMO. And I prefer Fade to Black over Welcome Home. But I really like Disposable Heroes (my favorite Metallica song), Leppar Messiah is ok, Orion is brilliant (mostly on Cliff's part), and Damage Inc. is good.  And the whole tone of the album, as usual for Metallica, sounds really anal. Of course, my opinion doesn't change the fact that it's one of the greatest metal albums, but I think it's over hyped and I've heard much better, IMO.

 

Hyped; no doubt.  It took a while to grow on me.  I didn't see what the fuss was all about.  But the more I listened to it, the more intrigued I was.  It IS an important disc beause it was one of the forerunners of thrash, along with PEACE SELLS BUT WHO'S BUYING and REIGN IN BLOOD.



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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 19:15
I like "St. Anger", a furious and extremely RAW album, where is evidently the problems of James Hetfield with alcohol and the crisis the band had before they release this album.
It has an unique guitar and drum sound, very trashier, not so rock as "Load" and "Re-Load".
Sometimes it makes madly bang my head. But the problem is that it has not guitar solos, as some of you said before.
So: "IF THIS ALBUM HAD GUITAR SOLOS, IT'D BE EXCELLENT, JUST LIKE ON THE EARLY DAYS ...." Clap
I hope their next album to be like a return to the origins, and if it has the "St. Anger" sound, it's OK. It'll be out this year, I can't wait !! 


Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 19:19
Originally posted by chromaticism chromaticism wrote:

IT'S A BIG DISAPPOINTMENT!  Being a fan of their older works (from Kill Em All to the black one), this shattered my expectations of Metallica going back to their more interesting ways.  My reasons are as follows:

- Nu-Metal sounding.

- Poor production.

- NO GUITAR SOLOS!

 
Are you joking ??
 
Nu-Metal sounding ??? I'd say Thrash Metal sounding á la St. Anger
 
The production is good, as I said before it has an unique sound.
 
And, well, there are not guitar solos ..
 


Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 19:21
Why the bad reactions ??
I can't understand it ...
 
Angry


Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 19:25
Originally posted by Barla Barla wrote:

Why the bad reactions ??
I can't understand it ...

 

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Because the album is horrendous compared to older metallica IMO.

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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 21:14
I used to be a HUGE Met fan.  I even liked "Load" and "ReLoad".
 
"St. Anger" is the first truly dishonest album they ever did.  It's supposed to be angry, but it all sounds forced.  The songs are their least inventive ever.  ("Some Kind Of Monster" has, what, ONE CHORD?)
 
And drums are not supposed to go CLANG.  Unless you're Einsturzende Neubauten.
 
It is time for them to call it quits and go back to counting their money.
 


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Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 00:31
Originally posted by zappaholic zappaholic wrote:

 
And drums are not supposed to go CLANG.  Unless you're Einsturzende Neubauten.
 


LOL

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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 09:29

IT SEEMS THE 'ANGER' HAS NOT FADED AWAY YET, EVEN AFTER SEVERAL MONTHS OF POSTING THIS THREAD...

I FINALLY REALISE THAT THE ALBUM HAS THE RIGHT TITLE AS IT CREATES REAL ANGER TO PEOPLE WHO LISTEN TO IT LOL


Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 11:13
I had it for a while but the production was so wretched that it's hard to judge how good the album was. I'm not their hugest fan, but love the first few albums, but it was easy to see how inferior it was to their best work. And yes, what the hell was that godawful drum sound about?? Apparently Megadeth's album around the same time, 'The System Has Failed', was not much better either...


Posted By: moonlapse
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 08:55
Originally posted by FragileDT FragileDT wrote:

Because the album is horrendous compared to older metallica IMO.


The album is horrendous period.


Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: May 23 2006 at 05:18
following their earlier masterpieces i was disappointed with  "load" and "reload", as were many others, which may have prompted Metallica to go down the "thrash metal" road which i didn't like and i felt was a mistake, but "St.Anger" was a successful album so good luck to them, at least i can still listen to "..and justice for all", one of my all time top fave albums!Thumbs Up.

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Posted By: coffeeintheface
Date Posted: July 02 2006 at 21:39
I've only heard the title track, but I think it's incredible.

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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: July 03 2006 at 02:18

The bashing is the only thing to expect when an iconic band releases a mediocre(not bad) album, or when an iconic band tries something new.

 


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: July 03 2006 at 04:22
I reallly like the trashy sound of this album. It's one of my favorites from Metallica, because it's not some stupid snobby metal kind of album. It's straight forward junking around with heavy riffs and garbage drums. That's WHY it's good!

And I agree with those in this thread who have said "bands who try something new get dissed". It's all too true. Sorry folks, Metallica is not going to make the same album over and over. If you want old Metallica, LISTEN to old Metallica...


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 03 2006 at 05:15
^ they admitted themselves that the album was bad.

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Posted By: progressive
Date Posted: July 03 2006 at 06:11
I somehow hate it, but still love it.
Invisible kid is great! And The Unnamed Feeling, and Frantic and St. Anger, and other..
It is clearly same old Metallica, listen macrostructure! And it's also different. Zeuhl :) But I think album deserve little high voices - drums: ride, for example. Or crazy woman screaming (singing). It's almost boring, underground (also like they were playing underground), but still electonic. But i think that is one of the points in that album. It's sovereign. Although, i find something good on everything. But also something bad. In conclusion, i like it, it's better than most music in the radio, but it's not best of metallica or best for me. 2,8 stars


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Posted By: Orion-GER
Date Posted: July 03 2006 at 08:55

"St. Anger" is simply one of the worst albums I ever boughtLOL...



Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: July 03 2006 at 09:06
Metallica had long since ceased to matter in any way when St. Anger came out.


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: July 03 2006 at 14:25
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ they admitted themselves that the album was bad.


You would too if all your fans were ready to kill you for it. They need the popularity more than sticking by their album.


Posted By: tdreamer
Date Posted: July 03 2006 at 17:57
I liked it when I bought it but now it's gathering dust. No guitar solos and those awful drums.


Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: July 03 2006 at 23:48
Irrelevant trivia; my neighbor's name is S. Anger.


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Posted By: coffeeintheface
Date Posted: July 04 2006 at 01:12
Originally posted by Teaflax Teaflax wrote:

Irrelevant trivia; my neighbor's name is S. Anger.


roffles


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 13:41
   The St Anger album was a total disappointment for me. Kirk Hammet isn't the best guitarist in heavy metal, but I surely missed his solos here. And Hetfield's vocals are worse than on any previous albums. ANGER indeed but not the case to mess up his vocals. I don't know what kind of drums Ulrich was playing but they have a pretty awful sound. There are some catchy riffs and some good ideas but they kinda get lost along the way.
 
   I do like two songs though that, in my humble opinion, stand up from the rest: Unnamed Feeling and Invisible Kid.


Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 15:22
It's a decent album in my opinion. I'm not a big fan of the band, but I wanted to check this record out as so many people got pissed about it. I like the unconvential drum sound solution. Approve


Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 18:08
It's better than Load or Reload, but still very samey and lacking in experimentation: It seems like a lazy album to me, with no real passion - which is why I don't like it.

And since my brother gave me the DVD of "The Making of", I have much less respect for the band than I did after I heard they were joining the RIAA in their clampdown of music "pirates" - and that takes some doing.

They were amazing before "Load".

     

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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 05 2006 at 18:10
Absolute trash. Listened to it maybe twice the first week I got it and put it out of view forevermore.

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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: August 18 2006 at 15:13
Originally posted by sbrushfan sbrushfan wrote:

Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

Originally posted by sbrushfan sbrushfan wrote:

ST. ANGER: Awful production, but well-written songs. If you're gonna dump on one, you might as well dump on all of 'em. The production AND writing credits read "Metallica and Bob Rock."

where can you support the argument of well-written songs????

all the songs are based on one extremely simple riff with no lead guitars at all and lyrics that are repeated over and over again...

 

WELL-WRITTEN SONGS...should have put IMO in there.  I do believe they put thought and time into the songs they wrote.  I fully believe that James was telling stories in his lyrics.  That's why I sad what I said.  No lead guitar?  So bloody what?  Has that been in vogue lately?  No.  Simple riffs?  So?  Who cares?  Listen to it for what it is...a decent album.  Bravo, guys.



According to Bob Rock, the album was a result of a week of jamming, then him cutting/pasting the riffs he liked into songs with Pro-Tools, then giving the result to James and having him come up with lyrics for it.

Sad.


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Posted By: darksinger
Date Posted: August 18 2006 at 15:13
Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

I know it's been about 2 years since that release but ....

I posted this topic to express my disgust for this "album" (GOD forgive me)

Although I am a huge fan of Metallica, this is the worst album I have ever heard in my life.

I really can't find something worse. I even believe that Load/Reload were "ok".

What is your opinion? My apologies if this thread has occured in the past

 
my opinion is that lars and james ate some reynolds aluminum foil and defecated st. anger out


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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: August 18 2006 at 20:44
St. Anger is one of he worst Metal albums I've ever even tried to listen to (Along with deathcrush and numerous other Black metal albums), makes some Black metal drumming sound very polished and clean!LOL
 
The album doesn't even sound like songs were written.


Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: August 19 2006 at 04:56
Hetfield needs to start f**king palm muting some riffs again(more than he did on St. Anger) , it sounds like muddy crap when you play that many power chords without something do chop up the sound, and the drop tuning doesn't exactly help with this problem.

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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: August 19 2006 at 04:59
Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

Originally posted by sbrushfan sbrushfan wrote:

Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

Originally posted by sbrushfan sbrushfan wrote:

ST. ANGER: Awful production, but well-written songs. If you're gonna dump on one, you might as well dump on all of 'em. The production AND writing credits read "Metallica and Bob Rock."

where can you support the argument of well-written songs????

all the songs are based on one extremely simple riff with no lead guitars at all and lyrics that are repeated over and over again...

 

WELL-WRITTEN SONGS...should have put IMO in there.  I do believe they put thought and time into the songs they wrote.  I fully believe that James was telling stories in his lyrics.  That's why I sad what I said.  No lead guitar?  So bloody what?  Has that been in vogue lately?  No.  Simple riffs?  So?  Who cares?  Listen to it for what it is...a decent album.  Bravo, guys.



According to Bob Rock, the album was a result of a week of jamming, then him cutting/pasting the riffs he liked into songs with Pro-Tools, then giving the result to James and having him come up with lyrics for it.

Sad.
 
The lyrics? WTF?? St. Anger round my neck..repeat four times. "I'm madly in anger with you!" WHAT THE HELL? "frantic tick tick tick tick tick tick tock"?!??! Come on, James, you're the same guy who wrote the brilliance on ...And Justice for All!!


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Posted By: darksinger
Date Posted: August 19 2006 at 07:54
Originally posted by heyitsthatguy[/QUOTE heyitsthatguy[/QUOTE wrote:

 
The lyrics? WTF?? St. Anger round my neck..repeat four times. "I'm madly in anger with you!" WHAT THE HELL? "frantic tick tick tick tick tick tick tock"?!??! Come on, James, you're the same guy who wrote the brilliance on ...And Justice for All!!
 
The lyrics? WTF?? St. Anger round my neck..repeat four times. "I'm madly in anger with you!" WHAT THE HELL? "frantic tick tick tick tick tick tick tock"?!??! Come on, James, you're the same guy who wrote the brilliance on ...And Justice for All!!
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this is what happens when you are exposed to the douchness of lars ulrich for extended periods of time


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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 02:43
Originally posted by darksinger darksinger wrote:

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<DIV>The lyrics? WTF?? St. Anger round my neck..repeat four times. I'm madly in anger with you! WHAT THE HELL? frantic tick tick tick tick tick tick tock?!??! Come on, James, you're the same guy who wrote the brilliance on ...And Justice for All!!</DIV>[/QUOTE heyitsthatguy
 
The lyrics? WTF?? St. Anger round my neck..repeat four times. I'm madly in anger with you! WHAT THE HELL? frantic tick tick tick tick tick tick tock?!??! Come on, James, you're the same guy who wrote the brilliance on ...And Justice for All!!
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this is what happens when you are exposed to the douchness of lars ulrich for extended periods of time
 
this is what happens when you are exposed to the douchness of lars ulrich for extended periods of time
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yeah, here's to hoping that the new album is not such a headache


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Posted By: darksinger
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 06:59
Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

Originally posted by darksinger darksinger wrote:

Originally posted by heyitsthatguy</td></tr></table> 
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<DIV>The lyrics? WTF?? St. Anger round my neck..repeat four times. I'm madly in anger with you! WHAT THE HELL? frantic tick tick tick tick tick tick tock?!??! Come on, James, you're the same guy who wrote the brilliance on ...And Justice for All!!</DIV></td></tr></table> 
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<DIV>this is what happens when you are exposed to the douchness of lars ulrich for extended periods of time</DIV>[/QUOTE heyitsthatguy
 
The lyrics? WTF?? St. Anger round my neck..repeat four times. I'm madly in anger with you! WHAT THE HELL? frantic tick tick tick tick tick tick tock?!??! Come on, James, you're the same guy who wrote the brilliance on ...And Justice for All!!
 
this is what happens when you are exposed to the douchness of lars ulrich for extended periods of time
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yeah, here's to hoping that the new album is not such a headache
 
yeah, here's to hoping that the new album is not such a headache
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hope the album won't be a headache
 
faith that it will


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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 16:32
Most likely the New Metallica album will sound slightly better, but still sound like Lars saying how much downloading sucks.


Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: August 22 2006 at 10:55
St. Anger sucks


Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: August 22 2006 at 10:58
St. anger is not beautiful, and no masterpiece, but it ROCKS!!!!


Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: June 21 2008 at 20:41
So.....


More opinions!

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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 12:27
Heard it a long time ago, I remember almost nothing about it. The album cover's pretty crummy, though. It's the angry red fist of angry anger... IT'S ANGGGRRRYYYYY! LOL

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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 19:40
Kind of... awful...
 
And that snare... please.... There are dumpsters that sound better....


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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 17:30
It´s a piece of sh*t, and Metallica has delivered a lot of sh*t since Load (I would even say that the Black album is a great great album!) but St Anger takes the cake

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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 03:13
It's a good cd.
 
Obviously not Metallica's best, and I don't think anyone elses favourite, but overall it's a good record.
 
Take out the crappy drum sound, no solos, and rather simple cover, and you've got some badass riffing moments. Frantic, St. Anger, Some Kind of Monster, Shoot Me Again, Sweet Amber and The Unnamed Feeling are all really good songs.


Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: June 26 2008 at 12:43
Originally posted by Valarius Valarius wrote:

It's a good cd.
 
Obviously not Metallica's best, and I don't think anyone elses favourite, but overall it's a good record.
 
Take out the crappy drum sound, no solos, and rather simple cover, and you've got some badass riffing moments. Frantic, St. Anger, Some Kind of Monster, Shoot Me Again, Sweet Amber and The Unnamed Feeling are all really good songs.

eh... not they are not...LOL


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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: June 27 2008 at 02:48
After nearly two years, it still sounds awful. Tongue

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