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Topic: Lizard
Posted By: SirPsycho388
Subject: Lizard
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 00:55

I'm currently feeling myself becoming more interested in KING CRIMSON. I have In The Court of the Crimson King and The Power To Believe... and I want to start going through the KC career starting with their early era. I want to get Lizard next, but I wanna know what people think of it first.

What's the general feeling toward LIZARD???



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Posted By: Harold Dupont
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 01:01
That's a Fripp's classic, and it really represents the early Crimson.  Personnally, I think it's the second best after Lark's, because the music is very intelligent and the sound is unique.  The title song is amazing, and it's a very good and short album that you can easily listen from the beginning to the end without any blink.  Good listening, fellow...


Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 01:13
LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT

beautiful music

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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 01:19
Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT

beautiful music


That's all that need be said. While you're at it, get Islands, too. Those are two of my favorite Krimson releases.


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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 01:26
lizard is their most jazzy album. not brutal like larks, red & bible black, but it is not as mellow as tracks like moonchild, i talk to the wind & cadence. VERY jazzy, sometimes approaching frank sinatra's orchestra!

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Posted By: andYouandI45
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 01:39
Very Good. the song lizard itself is fantastic.


Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 01:41
Not my favourite at all.

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Posted By: Ironing Mike
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 01:42
Lizard would be my desert island KC choice. Happy family, one hand clap!

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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 06:13
A very good album, some really jazzy moments but not too often though. Get Lark's Tongues In Aspic and In The Wake of Poseidon first, then get this one.

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Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 06:17
Lizard is an AMAZING achievement, how some people can call this album bad just baffles me! Every song on it is great, See my review bud

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Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 06:47
I think your suggestion to get Lizard next is an excellent choice. After that I would suggest you go for its successor, Larks Tongues in Aspic, or Red.


Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 10:09

Originally posted by greenback greenback wrote:

lizard is their most jazzy album. not brutal like larks, red & bible black, but it is not as mellow as tracks like moonchild, i talk to the wind & cadence. VERY jazzy, sometimes approaching frank sinatra's orchestra!

I accord.



Posted By: Gentle Ronnie
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 12:15
My KC favourite.

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Posted By: Chris_Kemp
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 12:46

Lizard is the most unique King Crimson album in my opinion. It takes some getting used to, but reaps repeated rewards upon repeated listenings. When it came out there was nothing that quite sounded like it, and that is still true today! Some of the keyboard sounds are just incredible. How did Fripp do it?

I can see why people may not like it, but I think its one of their most overlooked. "Cirkus" and "Indoor Games" are awesome. People rag on Gordon Haskelll's vocals, and they are technically lacking, but somehow it just adds to the atmosphere. And the epic Lizard, from which the album gets its title is breathtaking and beautiful in passages. You even get a John Anderson guest vocal. Look into it.



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Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 15:45
Originally posted by Chris_Kemp Chris_Kemp wrote:

Lizard is the most unique King Crimson album in my opinion. It takes some getting used to, but reaps repeated rewards upon repeated listenings. When it came out there was nothing that quite sounded like it, and that is still true today! Some of the keyboard sounds are just incredible. How did Fripp do it?

I can see why people may not like it, but I think its one of their most overlooked. "Cirkus" and "Indoor Games" are awesome. People rag on Gordon Haskelll's vocals, and they are technically lacking, but somehow it just adds to the atmosphere. And the epic Lizard, from which the album gets its title is breathtaking and beautiful in passages. You even get a John Anderson guest vocal. Look into it.

 



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Posted By: Flip_Stone
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 15:55

Lizard is good.  It's a bit different from the first two albums.  Greg Lake and Michael Giles are gone.  Gordon Haskell does a decent with the vocals. There's somewhat less mellotron.  There are more horns on the album (through guest musicians).  The songs include some funky, jazzy, and psychedelic elements not on the first two.  Probably more consistent than Posiedon.  Opening track Cirkus, and the second half of the song Lizard, are particularly powerful.

 



Posted By: validictorian
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 22:27
For the first 46 years of my life the only King Crimson I owned was Starless and Bible Black (I still think the first side of that is terrific).In the last three years I think I've purchased ten more. Lizard and Islands are both worth about a month long listen.

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Posted By: Laurent
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 17:54
Out of the first 3. I like Lizard more then ITWOP, but not as much as ITCOTCK.

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Posted By: Publius84
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 17:55
Excellent album

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Posted By: Leo Karmev
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 18:19
While the early crimsons are not my favourite (I think 72-74 is the best period), they got a very special ambiance about them, especially lizard and islands. So yes it's a good choice, but don't worry if you don't like it, because there's no crimsonalbum that sounds anything like lizard.

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Posted By: soundspectrum
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 18:35
Lizard is strange. Not that it is bad, but it takes time getting used to. It is not as accesible as discipline or even their debut, but the bolero in the middle of the title track is fantastic. This is the only time i have ever been able to swallow jon andersons vocals (i dont know why) and gordon haskell is very unique in his ways. He really didnt fit in with fripp and co. but it did make for a decent album. Dont get over excited about it. Listen to it when you are relaxed and let it excite you.


Posted By: BebieM
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 18:55
It's simply great, the title track is extremely unique and beautiful 


Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 19:11
Lizard is awesome- it's very jazzy. And it's weird, but that doesn't say much since it's King Crimson.


Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 19:30
Just look at the cover work and you'll know what you are getting into. in other words, as beautiful as the cover work


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Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 19:32
TRY TO GET RED THE BEST KC ALBUN EVER!!!!!!


Posted By: V0lcaN0
Date Posted: February 06 2006 at 06:30

Though my favorite King Crimson album is Islands, I believe that their first four albums are all masterpieces, in fact I like them most than anything else I can think of right now. Lizard is an amazing album, an absolute classic. Feautres also the great Jon Anderson on vocals on the last epic track.

I would advice you to get really into King Crimson starting with their first four album and moving on with probably Red or Lark Tongues, as they are in my personal opinion, the best band of all times.



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Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: February 06 2006 at 07:59

Originally posted by Harold Dupont Harold Dupont wrote:

That's a Fripp's classic, and it really represents the early Crimson.  Personnally, I think it's the second best after Lark's, because the music is very intelligent and the sound is unique.  The title song is amazing, and it's a very good and short album that you can easily listen from the beginning to the end without any blink.  Good listening, fellow...

I'm not alone in thinking that Larks Tongues is first and Lizard is second?!!  YAY!

Yeah man get Lizard it's a great record very ambitious and intersting. They really took a chance with that one and I feel it paid off ****1/2



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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: February 06 2006 at 08:20

Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT

beautiful music


That's all that need be said. While you're at it, get Islands, too. Those are two of my favorite Krimson releases.

I second both choices.



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