Why do you dislike/hate queen thread
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Topic: Why do you dislike/hate queen thread
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Subject: Why do you dislike/hate queen thread
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 03:47
I hate queen dont you?  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
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Posted By: Ray Lomas
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 03:50
I just love Queen!  But I don't know about the queen.  The queen of UK? Or do you mean queens just in general?  |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 03:53
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I don't hate them, just not like most of their material so much. They have some good pop/rock songs but not they are not extermely progressive. Bohemian Rhapsody, Innuendo are more than OK. |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 03:54
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ah well if i wanted it to be The queen hate thread i really would have to put the name to The the queen hate thread for it to be correct... Anyways had to suffer through an entire queen musical thingie and ever since i have hated queen and their eniterly gay'ish music ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 03:54
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It would be more constructive to name this thread:"why I hate/dislike Queen" if,indeed,it serves any real purpose other than to antagonise....... |
maidenrulez wrote:Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 03:56
Fixed ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 03:56
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ok.... |
Posted By: rockandrail
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 03:57
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It is reasonable (and sane) to develop some hate on Queen from "We Are The Champions" on. It is a sign that one possesses some sense of art to generously hate "Another One Bites The Dust" BUT Everything Queen did release before that, i.e. Queen, Queen II, Sheer Heart Attack, A Night at the Opera and A Day at the Race, is very very good! ------------- Pierre R, the man who lost his signature |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 04:01
A band that manages to make atleast 50 songs that are truly awfull can not be justified even if they should make one good album ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 04:07
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^ they didn't. I challenge you to name these songs, at least the 20 most "ugly" Queen songs you can think of. I love Queen ... the only albums which I wouldn't recommend are:
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 04:14
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Another one bites the dust Killer Queen Fat bottommed girl Bicycle race Good old fashioned loverboy Flash The seven seas of rhye Radio Gaga Crazy Little thing Called love Somebody to love We are the champions A kind of magic the show must go on friends will be friends innuendo who wants to live forever i want it all under pressure love of my life death on two legs white queen father to son funny how love is and the list goes on and on and on and on and on...
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Posted By: CrazyDiamond
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 04:15
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I hate the dentist and broccoli, don't you? ------------- 
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 04:17
I hate hairdressers much more than dentists actually ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Ray Lomas
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 04:17
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I even like most of the hit songs Queen made in the 80s. Made In Heaven isn't very strong musically, but I think it understanable since is it was put together from the left-overs after Freddie had died. Prog or not, the material Queen made in the 70s is excellent for me.  A Night At The Opera is one of my all time favourite albums. It has a nice balance between the poppier and proggier material. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 04:18
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 04:19
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Where are the Queen haters then? I guess i would have to make a queen fan thread if i was to lure out the queen haters ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: rockandrail
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 04:29
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Again strict love/hate judgements. I tried to remain objective. Queen as an band released very good and even, constructed albums until "A day at the race". "News of the world" and "Jazz" still have good moments. Things went wrong, IMHO, when the band ceased to be one and turned to become Freddie Mercury's extravaganza supporting act. But the same happened to Genesis and others.
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 04:31
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Mikenregalia How can you like those songs i had listed? Id rather listen to YMCA by the village people all day long than to listen to that poppy crap ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Citanul
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 04:39
The songs you listed aren't poppy crap, and some have decent proggy moments. What was your criteria for picking the songs? It looks to me as if you just listed all the Queen songs you could think of. ------------- Be or be not. There is no question. - Yoda, Prince of Denmark |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 04:42
I hate the Village People ... or The Pet Shop boys, for that matter. Queen are LIGHT YEARS ahead of that kind of music. How can I like those songs? Well, first of all it's a matter of taste. Many of these songs are objectively brilliant. Ask any music expert ... composition, creativity, innovation, musicianship, it's all there. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 04:44
i picked the most awfull queen melodies i could think of: BIG BOTTOMED GIRL, BICYCLE RACE, ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST, SOME KIND OF MAGIC, RADIO GAGA, CRAZY LITTLE THING CALLED LOVE AND SO ON IS POP IN ITS LOWEST SENSE... even invisible touch was more proggy... i like pop songs but i prefer intelligent ones... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 04:45
Village people, pet shop boys and queen have one thing in common it is all gay'ish music ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Citanul
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 04:56
A Kind of Magic and Radio Ga Ga aren't unintelligent pop songs - A Kind of Magic relates to the movie Highlander, and Radio Ga Ga is about radio being replaced by TV as a means of entertainment. Seven Seas of Rhye, The Show Must Go On, Innuendo, Who Wants To Live Forever, I Want It All, Love Of My Life, Death On Two Legs, White Queen and Father To Son aren't simple pop songs (half of those weren't even released as singles). I'm not saying that they haven't made some bad songs, but they're nowhere near as bad as some artists. And if Queen are gay because of Freddie Mercuy's sexual preference (and he was actually bisexual), then by the same logic, Judas Priest must be gay. ------------- Be or be not. There is no question. - Yoda, Prince of Denmark |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 04:58
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Nay i say that Queen make Gay'ish music...there are several bands that make Gay'ish music that does nto have anyone in the band that is gay and ofcourse does not Judas Priest make gay'ish music. And by gayish music i mean simplistic pop in the lowest form that usually applies to women. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: CandyAppleRed
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 05:31
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I remember seeing them supporting the Earthband in Newcastle, around the time of Seven Seas of Rhye, and quite liked them. After that though, they did nothing for me - it's just a sound I could never warm to. I don't particularly hate them, but by crackey I do hate Bohemian Rhapsody! |
Posted By: Citanul
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 05:48
Some Queen songs could be classified as pop, but in general they are no means "simplistic pop". And what do you mean by "usually applies to women"? If you mean that women usually make what you call "gayish music", then I would challenge you to name a woman who has made music resembling Queen's. If you mean that it usually appeals to women, then I would also disagree. I don't think there's a particular dominance of women amongst Queen fans, and their earlier, more progressive work probably wouldn't appeal to women as much as it does to men. ------------- Be or be not. There is no question. - Yoda, Prince of Denmark |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 05:51
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Appeals i meant sorry And i think that queen belong in the category along with the boring 80's synth pop thingie wich women at the time did listen alot to...Anyways that is just my opinion...i think that queen sounds gayish whatever that means... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 06:12
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Another one bites the dust 6 Killer Queen 10 Fat bottommed girl 8 Bicycle race 9 Good old fashioned loverboy 7 Flash 10 The seven seas of rhye 8 Radio Gaga 6 Crazy Little thing Called love 3 Somebody to love 7 We are the champions 5 A kind of magic 6 the show must go on 6 friends will be friends 2 innuendo 7 who wants to live forever 5 i want it all 7 under pressure 4 love of my life 7 death on two legs 8 white queen 9 father to son 9 funny how love is 6
You've picked some great songs there Maiden.........,most could hardly be describrd as pop though. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 06:14
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Those songs...are the poppiest i know ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Citanul
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 06:23
"Hammer To Fall" and "I Want It All" don't belong with synth pop - there are no keyboards in either of those songs (or if there are, they play a very minor role). And if you can't define the term "gayish", don't use it - particularly not with reference to Queen, where it has other connotations. ------------- Be or be not. There is no question. - Yoda, Prince of Denmark |
Posted By: Citanul
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 06:35
Let's see
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 07:32
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"Innuendo" is a great song! I don't like QUEEN, but I don't dislike/hate 'em either... |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 07:35
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You dont like em but you dont dislike em either? Besides alteast 80% of queens output will always be pure POP
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Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 07:45
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^ Not true.
It's very obviously more ROCK than POP. And quite good rock too. |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 07:49
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Its not even rock...i would wish for it to be rock tho...nearly NO GUITARS ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 07:56
I would dispute the 80% figure, if I could be bothered, but don't forget that over 60% of Genesis output is POP too... |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 07:57
Nearly NO GUITARS????? Are we still talking about Queen? You know, the band with Brian May in?
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 07:59
The guitar is only heard in very few songs...i was severly disapointed by queen as i actually was expecting guitar riffs...but that only happens every 2 or 3 songs ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 08:12
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That depends on which album you're listening to, but I think the guitar is quite clearly there on most of them... Listen to any of Queen's early albums - the huge guitar orchestras of Brian May will blow you away!!! I recommend getting Queen II - it's one of the greatest rock albums I've ever heard That doesn't mean you'll like it, of course... |
If you haven't heard it, you'll never think of Queen the same way again. Posted By: Citanul
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 08:20
A statement like this needs to be backed up with specific examples. Which Queen songs can you not hear the guitar in? ------------- Be or be not. There is no question. - Yoda, Prince of Denmark |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 08:42
You're joking, right? |
Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 09:01
Sums it up for me. And you have admit, Freddie Mercury was one of, if not the greatest showman. |
Posted By: rockandrail
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 09:04
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No guitar in an "only guitar" band? Funny! Perhaps it's not written on the CD booklets anymore, but in the middle of the synthesizermania of the mid seventies (remember Pop Corn?), Queen used to print somewhere on there LP folders "No Synthesizers!" Just to precise that all sounds were generated by the combination of vocals and guitars! Maybe the confusion comes from the fact that guitarists like Brian May are human. Hence they play with some feeling, while most "modern" (did I say metal?) guitarists could easily be replaced by programs. ------------- Pierre R, the man who lost his signature |
Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 09:25
There's also many (prog) rock bands listed in the archives, which don't have any guitars in 'em, just drums, bass + keyboards. I don't think there has to be a guitar in a rock band. F.ex. AARDVARK was a quite good and funny band, and they did rock too!  I think QUATERMASS was more succesful band of this kind.
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Posted By: porter
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 10:14
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Maidenrulez, you hate Queen and in spite of all the things you said, you still don't bring a convincing argument about this hate. I guess it's a matter of personal taste in the end, and that's ok by me. BUT: I would just kindly ask of you not to be offensive with one of the greatest band who ever tread this earth. I find many questionable things in Iron Maiden, but I don't even dream of saying the same things about them as you said about Queen. It's a matter of respect and objectivity I guess. Thanks a lot. ------------- "my kingdom for a horse!" (W. Shakespeare, "Richard III") |
Posted By: Paulieg
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 10:52
| I pretty much can't stand Queen either. I do feel most of their output is pop, if not very popish rock. Just my humble opinion. I'm not really into the pop scene. |
Posted By: rockandrail
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 11:09
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 15:14
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Yes i know that most queen songs has guitars,,,but that is mostly in the background i have taken and listed various queen songs and the instruments that is most dominant in the song. Another one bites the dust-Mostly bass Killer Queen-Mostly piano Fat botommed girls-Guitars Bicycle race-Mostly piano Youre my best friend-Synth Dont stop me now-Mostly piano Save me-mostly piano Now im here-Only realy domenant guitar song Good old fashioned lover boy-Mostly piano Play the game-Mostly piano Flash-Mostly piano and synths Seven seas of rhye-Mostly piano A kind of magic--Mostly bass and synths Radio Gaga-synths I want to break free-synths Its a hard life-Mostly piano Who wants to live forever-Synths The miracle-Mostly synths Im going slightly mad-mostly synths Invsible man-Bass and synths The show must go on-Synths ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 15:59
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You NEED to hear Queen II. Trust me. BUY IT!!! |
Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 16:12
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In their early years, Queen were one of the greatest rock bands there ever was, and indeed their best work was very proggy imo. Certainly, the triumvirate of 'Queen II', 'Sheer Heart Attack' and 'A Night At The Opera', plus the hard rock masterwork of 'News Of The World' are amongst the best rock has to offer. However, for me they declined somewhat after about 'Jazz', by bringing in the synths which meant they lost some of their charm and appeal, plus their sense of experiment had diminished hugely. It wasn't until around 'The Miracle' (and even that is only a half great album) that they managed to re-gain a sense of experiment with the marvellous title track, 'Party/ Khashoggi's Ship' and 'I Want It All', that are by far their best moments of the 80s. 'Innuendo' was their best in years though, and despite a few duff tracks here and there, showed the band firing on all cylinders. For most people, I'm guessing their understanding of Queen is based on the hit singles of the 80s, such as 'I Want To Break Free' and 'Radio Ga Ga', which are as cheesy as they come. However, songs like 'Doin' Alright', 'Great King Rat', 'Seven Seas Of Rhye', 'March Of The Black Queen', 'Father To Son', '39' and 'The Prophet's Song' are 100% prog. It's also worth noting that album reviews I've seen from the 70s have actually compared the early Queen to bands like Genesis, suggesting that they were perceived as progressive in their early career. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 25 2005 at 17:11
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It's pretty clear our thread starter can't be persuaded to like the
band, even if Queen's earliest albums influenced the band that
supposedly "rulez" from his name. But I would like to comment on a few things. Most of the songs listed (at least, when spelled correctly) do rely on other instruments outside of the guitar, sure. So what? There are plenty of prog/rock songs that don't particularly rely on the guitar as the main instrument. Prog's most famous song, Carry on wayward son, is a pretty even mix of guitars and keyboard/piano. Many of Genesis's compositions in the Gabriel era had the guitar pulling equal weight with the other instruments, if not less. There's not a ton of guitar in VDGG's peak periods. I like every single one of those songs (The invisible man is trying sometimes, but that's it). One of the best things about Queen was how they could make music in plenty of different ways. This is a good thing, in my eyes. Even if you don't like that fact, they have plenty of songs that have the guitar at the forefront too. Everyone should have a couple of Queen songs that they like because of the wide range of styles they went through, not to mention different band members singing. If there isn't, you're probably just hating them just for the sake of hating them (for whatever reasons). |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 02:41
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Ah well i have already created a Maiden hate thread....besides i repect Queen enough not to rate their albums ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 02:43
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I like some Queen songs ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 02:45
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Yeah, that's it, back out of it. You really started a thread to hate on
a band that's fairly popular around here and didn't expect any backlash? |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 02:48
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Did not get any comments on my Maiden hate thread...a bit disapointing Anyways i had to force myself through a entire 2 hour set of queen and have been hating them ever since....2 hours of horrible music can make anyone mad ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 03:00
John Deacon didn't want any guitar in Back chat, but Brian was persistent, so the only song that wasn't intended to have guitar in it has guitar in it (and a very good one too).
All Queen songs have guitar on them, ridiculous to state other wise ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 03:03
Killer Queen-Mostly piano Fat botommed girls-Guitars Bicycle race-Mostly piano Youre my best friend-Synth Dont stop me now-Mostly piano Save me-mostly piano Now im here-Only realy domenant guitar song Good old fashioned lover boy-Mostly piano Play the game-Mostly piano Flash-Mostly piano and synths Seven seas of rhye-Mostly piano A kind of magic--Mostly bass and synths Radio Gaga-synths I want to break free-synths Its a hard life-Mostly piano Who wants to live forever-Synths The miracle-Mostly synths Im going slightly mad-mostly synths Invsible man-Bass and synths The show must go on-Synths On all these songs the guitar can be barely heard and is more of an backing instrument than a dominant song-driving instrument...ofcourse there are guitars in the songs but most of the songs it is easy to oversee as it is not very important for the songs ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 03:15
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Listen the songs again dude ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 03:17
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I can hear the guitars...BUT they are not very dominant in the songs like ordinary rock groups like Led Zeppelin, Rolling stones and Deep Purple...And that what i define as classic rock basically, a very dominant Guitar element where the Guitar is what drives the songs ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Citanul
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 03:57
But only about half the songs you listed are from their "classic rock" period. And you've conveniently left out songs like Keep Yourself Alive, Brighton Rock, Bohemian Rhapsody (OK, that one's more towards the end rather than the whole song), It's Late, Tie Your Mother Down, Stone Cold Crazy, Hammer To Fall and I Want It All, to name just a few. ------------- Be or be not. There is no question. - Yoda, Prince of Denmark |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 04:00
Yep i know But still...i think that the big majority of what i have heard of queen has not been very guitardriven songs...as said before i think 80% of their songs sound poppy ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Citanul
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 04:39
Then you definitely need to listen to their earlier albums - their later stuff is certainly more poppy. And take a listen to the songs available here. They're not all guitar-driven, and some are a bit poppy, but there are also some of their more prog songs there. ------------- Be or be not. There is no question. - Yoda, Prince of Denmark |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 04:43
Yes yes Queen II and A night at the opera properly represents the 20% then...but still ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Pafnutij
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 05:02
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I like Queen, but they aint prog. |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 05:05
Properly the only thing a queen fan and i can agree on ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Citanul
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 05:10
If you add in Queen and Sheer Heart Attack, you've got more than 20% (and that percentage becomes even larger if you include A Day at the Races, News of the World and Jazz). ------------- Be or be not. There is no question. - Yoda, Prince of Denmark |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 05:15
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Now you are just taking it too far Queen fanboy ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: JesusBetancourt
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 05:23
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I dislike Queen but I do admit that there first albums are pretty good......I wouldent waste a buck on any of them though. BTW, I love your avatar ------------- "He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water" John 7:38 |
Posted By: Citanul
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 05:25
I'll stop when you stop... ------------- Be or be not. There is no question. - Yoda, Prince of Denmark |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 05:27
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Nay ill never stop...i think at best queen perhaps had 10-11 moments that where something more than just simple pop...but saying that almost their entire catalogue is progressive is far too much ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: JesusBetancourt
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 05:30
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Why dont we end this foolishness and talk about something we can all agree on like Asia sucks. ------------- "He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water" John 7:38 |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 05:30
Amen! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Citanul
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 05:53
I never said that their entire catalogue is progressive. Yes, they did have some pop songs, but as a whole, they're definitely more than simple pop. Also, I don't think Asia suck completely. They certainly do when you consider the pedigree of the band members, but as an AOR band, they weren't bad. Of course, if you don't like AOR, then you're not going to like them, and I won't argue with you about that. Queen, on the other hand are a different matter... ------------- Be or be not. There is no question. - Yoda, Prince of Denmark |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 05:55
SOME POP SONGS??? nah listen to the man lets just stop here unless we get on to 100 pages or so...because we aint going to agree on anything anytime soon ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: JesusBetancourt
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 05:58
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I still think Asia sucks, AOR or not. ------------- "He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water" John 7:38 |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 06:10
| maidenrulez just can't look at Queen's music objectively. No need to take his Queen-opinions seriously. |
Posted By: Citanul
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 06:14
What's wrong with aiming for 100 pages?
I've realised that, and have come to accept the fact that he is misguided, and therefore his life will forever be incomplete because he can't appreciate the splendour of Queen's music. ------------- Be or be not. There is no question. - Yoda, Prince of Denmark |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 06:18
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Oh please...some of these Queen fanboys have meanings that is not very objective either, so i choose to not take their opinions very serious either because whatever queen do they'll praise it ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 06:27
Well I'm not a fanboy, although I find early Queen pretty enjoyable, but to me it's very clear that their music is very guitar-driven and is anything put simple pop. |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 06:32
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VERY GUITAR DRIVEN??? i have listened to about 60 queen songs and about 4-7 songs has a very DOMINANT guitar and to me about 50 of these songs falls in the pop category...i hear what i hear and you can not change that if i hear a guitar thats dominant i dont think it is a piano just because i hate queen ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 06:43
I can't change what you hear but I can always recommend you to see a doctor, if your hearing problems are that bad .
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 06:48
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Hah the best thing would be if you could sit next beside me when i hear a queen album so you could point out this guitar driven rock band ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 07:18
Not synth.....electric piano The problem it seems is that you want Queen to be a guitare driven hard rock band. Well, sometimes they are, but the beauty of Queen for many is the variety of Queens music played very well. Where would Zep have been if they'd stuck to their blues based formula? Nowhere, thats where ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 07:22
Wadever...anyways i prefer Queen's hard rock approach and i think the other stuff sounds too cheesy..but thats just me ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Citanul
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 07:32
Well at least we got you to admit that Queen had some hard rock and weren't just pop. And to save you time: your comeback will probably be something along the lines of there only being a few hard rock songs, and that the rest are cheesy pop ------------- Be or be not. There is no question. - Yoda, Prince of Denmark |
Posted By: The Cynic
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 07:56
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Queen has always been a controversy band. I don't really hate them, but with the release of "The game" they turned into a plastic-pop-disco band, making it even worse with "Hot space" and the hilarious "Flash Soundtrack".
But let us be fair. Queen have also produced some memorable albums like "A night at the opera", "QueenII", "A day at the races" and "Sheer heart attack". And were would the world be without rock-hymns like "We will rock you" and "We are the champions"??? Now, where's the prog in Queen? The be honest, there's little prog to be found. "Queen II" has some fine moments, and to pick "A night at the opera", maybe "Bohemian Rhapsody" and "The prophet's song". But Queen never peformed ordinary rock. There was a bit of glam, show-off, upper class and drama. Best albums: Queen II, A night at the opera, A day at the races (my favourite by the way)!!! ------------- this world is totally fugazi |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 08:04
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Yep i have to agree with the cynic there...Queen is just not plain rock or plain pop but generally that glam thing and stuff wich i found cheesy ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Citanul
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 08:26
OK, that's something I can accept. I like Queen, but you find them cheesy. We're never going to convince each other, but we seem to have come to some sort of agreement. Of course, this means we need to find something else we can argue about for such a long time ------------- Be or be not. There is no question. - Yoda, Prince of Denmark |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 08:49
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I am sure we will find something ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 09:40
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I've heard about 10 Iron Maiden albums and they were not metal, more like simple rock. And where's the double bass drum in their music?! |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 10:20
I agree.... I've had this argument before thet Maiden are not Metal, aand I was attacked ruthlessly.
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 15:20
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Maiden are metal - anyone who says otherwise wasn't alive or old enough in the late 1970s. They were at the forefront of the New Wave Of British Heavy Metal for flip's sake! How much more Metal do you want? Metal did not begin in 1991. It changed then, after Metallica (the most progressive metal band ever) released their self-titled album. |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 15:23
I thought you where the one calleing them a blues based hard rock band Anyways metallice the most progressive metal band in the world...that sure is a bold statement..compared to Fantomas or bands like that they are nothing ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 15:26
I don't want to get into this one again, I was around as you know! You call them metal if you like, doesn't bother me... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 15:54
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I really, really don't believe you, Snow Dog... It's just incredible to think that anyone who is actually alive doesn't know Iron Maiden to be a metal band. You're right. It's a hopeless and one-sided argument that's pointless to continue, as everyone else knows the truth! http://encyclopedia.laborlawtalk.com/Heavy_metal_music - http://encyclopedia.laborlawtalk.com/Heavy_metal_music http://www.metal-rules.com/polls/top100/top100.htm - http://www.metal-rules.com/polls/top100/top100.htm http://www.epinions.com/musc-Top_10_Heavy_Metal - http://www.epinions.com/musc-Top_10_Heavy_Metal (just see how many of these lists have Iron Maiden in them) http://www.geocities.com/metallurgy44/genres.html - http://www.geocities.com/metallurgy44/genres.html http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-heavy-metal-genres - http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-heavy-metal-genres http://encyclopedia.laborlawtalk.com/New_Wave_of_British_Heavy_Metal - http://encyclopedia.laborlawtalk.com/New_Wave_of_British_Hea vy_Metal
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 16:00
Do they, my friend, who is a lifelong Maiden fan is of the same opinion as I, so I'm not quite alone you see....nevermind, it is of no consequence. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 16:02
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Both of you in blissful ignorance - how sweet
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 16:04
Er... I think you're remembering in Chinese whispers. Read some of the links - Heavy Metal music is founded in blues based hard rock. That's closer to what I would have said... wherever/whenever it was. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 16:05
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You're patronising arrogance is something I have come to expect from you now, so no surprise there then. I expect you'll have the last word though! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: zabriskiepoint
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 16:17
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Maybe it would be easier to see beyond your own tastes and actually
acknowledge the musical complexity and quality that lies in most of
Queen's Album, Tracks such as Bohemian Rhapsody or The Prophet's song, Love of my Life, Killer Queen, Innuendo,etc
are beyond what any of most so called prog bands could achieve,
incredible choirs and harmonys, layered guitars, harmonised in 6th and
3ds, a guy that has an unique astronomic pitch range, etc. Yes, they did crappy pop songs, like Yes and Genesis did in their time, but that does no take credit from what was done earlier in their carrier, in the times of Queen II and A Night at the Opera. Pardon my english :P . |