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Topic: Renaissance Novella cover art
Posted By: bardberic
Subject: Renaissance Novella cover art
Date Posted: April 13 2025 at 19:57
Renaissance's Novella was published with two versions of the cover art. the original was painted for the American first pressing of the album, but supposedly Annie Haslam was unhappy with that one and requested a new one be painted for future pressings. The one that was painted for the UK release would become the "main" cover art for the album in subsequent presses.

Original American painting:




"Main" British painting:




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Posted By: bardberic
Date Posted: April 13 2025 at 20:05
I like the typography and atmosphere of the original art, but the nun is just such an eyesore, and brown such an ugly color, that my preference is the much more vibrant, and british art with the more free-spirited woman


Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: April 13 2025 at 23:19
^Agreed. The colors, typography, and general background is better on the US version for me. And I have no problem with the placement of the characters either. But their faces are so weird looking! The "main" version has characters that looks much nicer, but I don't like that no one is looking at the book, and the colors are more washed out and pale. The ideal version for me would be the US version, but with faces drawn like the UK version. So I won't vote.


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 14 2025 at 00:20
second option


Posted By: bardberic
Date Posted: April 14 2025 at 00:23
Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

^Agreed. The colors, typography, and general background is better on the US version for me. And I have no problem with the placement of the characters either. But their faces are so weird looking! The "main" version has characters that looks much nicer, but I don't like that no one is looking at the book, and the colors are more washed out and pale. The ideal version for me would be the US version, but with faces drawn like the UK version. So I won't vote.


The way I view it, the original takes place in the middle ages (1200s or so) with the woman and children reading a contemporary story and are thus focused on the words of the book, whereas the redo takes place in the contemporary era (1970s) with the woman and chosen gazing up as they're imagining what the fairy tale contains

But yeah, now that you've mentioned it, the art on the first does have a more classical feel, and I think the artist wanted to imitate artwork from the rensissance, whereas the second one looks very modern, as to fit in with other pieces of the 1970s,, such is why it seems so washed out.


Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: April 14 2025 at 00:58
I actually quite like both. Smile


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 14 2025 at 01:10
Originally posted by bardberic bardberic wrote:

Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

^Agreed. The colors, typography, and general background is better on the US version for me. And I have no problem with the placement of the characters either. But their faces are so weird looking! The "main" version has characters that looks much nicer, but I don't like that no one is looking at the book, and the colors are more washed out and pale. The ideal version for me would be the US version, but with faces drawn like the UK version. So I won't vote.


The way I view it, the original takes place in the middle ages (1200s or so) with the woman and children reading a contemporary story and are thus focused on the words of the book, whereas the redo takes place in the contemporary era (1970s) with the woman and chosen gazing up as they're imagining what the fairy tale contains

But yeah, now that you've mentioned it, the art on the first does have a more classical feel, and I think the artist wanted to imitate artwork from the rensissance, whereas the second one looks very modern, as to fit in with other pieces of the 1970s,, such is why it seems so washed out.


The second one has a fairy tale feel to it. I don't find it to be modern at all.


Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: April 14 2025 at 01:39
Originally posted by Octopus II Octopus II wrote:

I actually quite like both. Smile


Same here, but I lean towards the second cover.

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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: April 14 2025 at 01:50
Except for the fact that the artist has no idea how to paint a human being, I like the general esthetics of the American original a lot more than the British. But they both look amateurish.

-Btw: it's so funny to me that someone can state that brown - or any natural/nature color really, is ugly. I guess tree trunks are ugly, and its pine cones, and of course many of the animals living in the forest. Brown eyes? Brown hair? Brown skin?


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 14 2025 at 03:21
Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

Originally posted by Octopus II Octopus II wrote:

I actually quite like both. Smile


Same here, but I lean towards the second cover.

I also like both -  Brown and beige are amongst my fave colours, whereas the UK version's colours background varied quite a bit (from turquoise to green to beige) depending on the country of release.



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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: April 14 2025 at 05:49
Originally posted by Octopus II Octopus II wrote:

I actually quite like both. Smile

Schrödinger's cat! 

Neither is perfect--or fitting any particular historically-accurate art style--and the artist definitely doesn't do humans very well (it's the mouths that bug me the most), BUT it is Renaissance; it is Novella; it is my all-time favorite Renaissance album; in my not-so-humble opinion, it is one of the best representatives ever made of that which is the essence and range of pure progressive rock. It is what it is!
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: April 14 2025 at 05:51
Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

[QUOTE=Octopus II]I actually quite like both. Smile

Schrödinger's cat! 

Neither is perfect--or fitting any particular historically-accurate art style--and the artist definitely doesn't do humans very well (it's the mouths that bug me the most), BUT it is Renaissance; it is Novella; it is my all-time favorite Renaissance album; in my not-so-humble opinion, it is one of the best representatives ever made of that which is the essence and range of pure progressive rock. It is what it is!


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Posted By: Rexorcist
Date Posted: April 14 2025 at 07:02
She's reading to Anakin.


Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: April 14 2025 at 08:10
I like the British version better. The castle adds a nice touch. Wikipedia says that both covers were done by the same artist. According to Haslam, the band found the portrayal of the woman on the American cover looking like a nun to be misleading. The American cover looks like it was rushed. I'm not an art theorist, but something doesn't seem right about the child's hand on the book, all three faces appear "off" a bit, the clothing seems "unfinished" for a lack of a better word, and it feels like its lacking some perspective or depth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novella_%28album%29#Release_history_and_cover_art" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novella_(album)#Release_history_and_cover_art


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Posted By: Criswell
Date Posted: April 14 2025 at 08:26
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

But they both look amateurish.

Concur...the second a little less so, but still amateurish...
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: April 14 2025 at 09:03
The main British painting. I doubt if I would've bought the album if it had the original American art work. Smile


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 14 2025 at 09:41
Originally posted by bardberic bardberic wrote:

Renaissance's Novella was published with two versions of the cover art.


Hi,

I actually find the covers a bit scary and something that a record company would do to a band, and ignore their ideas and thoughts about the music.

The hard part of the different covers, is that it tells you a completely different something about the album ... one is a bunch of neat stories, for the kids, and the other, yet another piece of religious art during that time period to suggest that the religion is right and artistic, and people/folks aren't! Thus the sad face, is like a comment that the artist can not do anything right, as he/she is being told what to do!

So very American, that cover, where the movie studios originally owned everything music wise (they had the equipment for it) and then tried to get their stars to seem even better as singers. At that point, it was NOT about the story, but the fame that they could generate so folks would go to the theater, or buy the single. And it wasn't until the 1960's when black musicians broke the mold to smithereens!

The art of album covers, is something that should have been more important and valuable, as HIPGNOSIS made it be ... but so many bands had their whole thing ruined by bad covers, and I would have to ask Annie about this one, as the idea behind the covers are totally different and bizarre in the end ... and really ... very stupid and confusing to fans, about the music itself!



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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: April 14 2025 at 09:53
The less creepy British version.

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 14 2025 at 10:01
Aesthetically, I actually prefer the American cover and don't mind the unrealistic depictions of people. I would not expect it, but with the British version, I would have rather something more to the fairy tale feel like a crouching knight on one knee with sword and shielding raised about to be stepped on by a giant cyclops, and an even more giant squid or octopus arm about to grab the giant cyclops. Or just make it more Grimm... I wish it was more nightmarish. Or some basic computer graphics of the lines of a novel (bringing the Renaissance into the 20th century, and maybe have had Kraftwerk and Gary Numan collaborate on the album). I can dream. Be nice if they would have a version with Annie Haslam's own art.

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Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: April 14 2025 at 13:23
Originally posted by bardberic bardberic wrote:

I like the typography and atmosphere of the original art, but the nun is just such an eyesore, and brown such an ugly color, that my preference is the much more vibrant, and british art with the more free-spirited woman


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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: April 14 2025 at 13:49
Both are pretty bad, British is slightly better.

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: April 14 2025 at 14:59
Not exactly fond of the British one, but the American is downright ugly.

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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: April 14 2025 at 21:07
This is seriously some uncanny valley shіt. Would be more fitting for a King Crimson album or a horror themed compilation.

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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: April 14 2025 at 23:39
Originally posted by Rexorcist Rexorcist wrote:

She's reading to Anakin.

And he's about to say: "are you an angel?"


Posted By: rik wilson
Date Posted: April 19 2025 at 11:14
As a former art teacher ; I want to weigh in on Renaissance covers. The American version looks Italian modernism to me: the circles as a mass focal point; the pseudo Art Nouveau flowers (in complementary colors) provide a color focal point against the neutral color -brown. The faces provide a measure of angst and sereness. These are found in the music Renaissance creates. For me a better cover. The other cover looks like a washed out pastel children's book of the 1940's.


Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: April 19 2025 at 11:28
I like them both, but I'd pick the original as my album cover if I were in the band. It just look more authentically old world, if that was the point.

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Posted By: ThyroidGlands
Date Posted: April 19 2025 at 22:56
Both are dreadful. In the American one the kids and the woman look like shapeshifters, so the British one

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