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Topic: New Gentle Giant Release!!
Posted By: B-Chipster
Subject: New Gentle Giant Release!!
Date Posted: April 03 2025 at 18:12
Gentle Giant & Prog Fans, This One’s for You! 🎶🔥

The legendary 1977 double live album "Playing the Fool" has been fully reimagined, mixed, and mastered for the most immersive Gentle Giant live experience yet! 

It's out May 2nd and available to pre-order:  http://linktr.ee/gentlegiantband" rel="nofollow - linktr.ee/gentlegiantband

Originally released in January 1977, this album captured the band at their absolute peak. Now, over 45 years later, it's been reborn with stunning 96/24 Stereo, 5.1 Surround Sound & Dolby Atmos mixes, and will be on Vinyl CD and Blu-ray, offering a whole new depth and clarity to every intricate note.



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Posted By: Gnik Nosmirc
Date Posted: April 03 2025 at 18:17
Wow ok I thought it was an actual NEW ALBUM for a sec. Still great news.

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Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: April 03 2025 at 21:40
Already ordered! Smile


Posted By: Disconnect
Date Posted: April 06 2025 at 17:40
Pre-ordered, thanks for the notice

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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: April 06 2025 at 17:47
Upon reading the body of the OP, I thought this was gonna be an April Fools prank. Anyway, the word "reimagined" is giving me some doubts about this reissue. But that's just me.

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 07 2025 at 01:00
Originally posted by Gnik Nosmirc Gnik Nosmirc wrote:

Wow ok I thought it was an actual NEW ALBUM for a sec. Still great news.

I think most people thought of that for a second LOL, very click bait thread title. 


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 07 2025 at 06:22
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Gnik Nosmirc Gnik Nosmirc wrote:

Wow ok I thought it was an actual NEW ALBUM for a sec. Still great news.

I think most people thought of that for a second LOL, very click bait thread title. 

Hi,

I'll be waiting for Steven Wilson's remaster of the "High Oratorio 45 RPM for Elephants". Should be much more interesting than hearing the same thing yet again! Tongue .... and publicized to make it look like it is new .... Confused which kinda suggests that some folks obviously never heard it before because it was not listed as a top 5 in the onion smell and stink contest! Sleepy


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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: April 07 2025 at 06:40
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Upon reading the body of the OP, I thought this was gonna be an April Fools prank. Anyway, the word "reimagined" is giving me some doubts about this reissue. But that's just me.
"Reimagined" probably was the word used to describe the surround mixes.


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 07 2025 at 07:03
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Upon reading the body of the OP, I thought this was gonna be an April Fools prank. Anyway, the word "reimagined" is giving me some doubts about this reissue. But that's just me.
"Reimagined" probably was the word used to describe the surround mixes.

Hi,

It is a term and thought that bothers me ... and I think it is because the quality of all mp3's out there that are distributed are such poor and bad quality that the majority of folks in the last 30 years likely do not know how much better all the original recordings actually were ... and if you had the LP's (for example), having a remaster like this one, is bizarre and a waste of money, specially if you have a top end stereo system (I do!!!) which blows out a lot of the stuff folks listen to here or in the toob ... where the quality can't be too big, or the site would get blown apart with too much big stuff and not be able to handle lesser materials ... so a lot of it is actually low quality, and DEFINITELY not better than me playing a CD on my stereo, or LP ... 

I simply wish that more folks could handle a bigger, and more efficient sound/stereo system ... so they could tell the difference. In fact, some of those "remasters" (even by SW) do not sound good on my system at all ... you know right away that things were fudged really bad to make it look like it was bigger and better ... and in the end, it wasn't even close if you have a high end system, which most folks here apparently do not!


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Posted By: Disconnect
Date Posted: April 07 2025 at 18:14
Speaking only for myself, Playing The Fool was the only GG album I didn't already have on wax.  Rather than picking up a sh*tty, scratched-up copy at my various local record stores, I have no qualms about purchasing this remaster/re-release/reimagined/repurposed/reposessed/retracted/redifined so-and-so that I see some here bitching about.  Any 'Fool' should know a remastered LIVE album by a band such as GG is worthy of anyone's time who claims to be a fan of any sort of angular music.

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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 07 2025 at 21:32
Originally posted by Disconnect Disconnect wrote:

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Rather than picking up a sh*tty, scratched-up copy at my various local record stores, I have no qualms about purchasing this remaster/re-release/reimagined/repurposed/reposessed/retracted/redifined so-and-so that I see some here bitching about.
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Hi,

No argument there, since these days you and I will not find many folks with a high end stereo system and, on top of that, no LP's to listen to that show how things were 50 years ago ... so yeah ... your point makes sense and is very logical, though I would still suggest that it shows, more than anything, how the industry finds ways to make money again off something or other, but, yeah, that's an issue ... scratchy and old LP's would not do well on a high end system, and neith (BTW) do a lot of LP's that were redone in the past 5 years, like some Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath for starters.

My take, for example, is that folks are too worried about number 1 instead of the quality of the materials, and the majority of the bands on the monthly listings, which in my ears, do not sound good enough because they are all trying to sound like someone else that inspired them ... copy of a copy of a copy I tend to suggest.

IF, and that is a large IF, these remasters and whatnot, helped bring the music ability up further, and elevate progressive music (so to speak) then it is a good thing, but in the end, I am not sure that is what they are doing, since the choices are very spotty and haphazard in my book. 

The thing that brought "progressive" to the front, was that not only was it innovative, it also took a new and different step to recording it, since it was not the average mish mash of stuff, and featured more independent moments that made the music special, the same thing that helped classical music come "alive" for so many decades and centuries, and the orchestras in the 1960's and 1970's made sure that we realized that. 

However, I find it sad that I do not see this as a window to the future of the music and the sound ... instead it is a fairly obvious attempt at cashing in some more ... mainly because any of these redo's will sell much more than the original ... and guess who gets the majority of the money? Unless it was the artist himself/herself that took the step to get it done, as KC and some bands have done to ensure that the record company does not underscore them. But now that PF, Roxy Music and others do not own their stuff anymore, we will be seeing all the albums redone in the future! 

I do not think that all of these remasters are not good ... but I have yet to hear one that beats the original in my system and that includes SW. 

Again, if you had the original DSOTM and Sgt Peppers in the English pressing, instead of the American trash copies that were taken from a cheap cassette (so to speak), you would very quickly hear it on a good system, that the remasters are crap and then some! Sadly this is an example that only a handful of us left over have any idea about ... but the scary part for me is that these folks doing remasters are putting more effort into the older stuff than they are into the new music, and that is criminal ... the new music and folks need help to get off the copy of a copy of a copy so their work won't sound like everyone else's ... something that was not what we heard 50 years ago ... I wish folks today understood that, instead of standing up for their favorites.


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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: April 07 2025 at 22:08
The OP missed an April fool's opportunity. ;)


Posted By: Disconnect
Date Posted: April 08 2025 at 05:25
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:


Again, if you had the original DSOTM and Sgt Peppers in the English pressing, instead of the American trash copies that were taken from a cheap cassette (so to speak), you would very quickly hear it on a good system, that the remasters are crap and then some! Sadly this is an example that only a handful of us left over have any idea about ... but the scary part for me is that these folks doing remasters are putting more effort into the older stuff than they are into the new music, and that is criminal ... the new music and folks need help to get off the copy of a copy of a copy so their work won't sound like everyone else's ... something that was not what we heard 50 years ago ... I wish folks today understood that, instead of standing up for their favorites.

great point, Pedro...I agree 100%


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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 10 2025 at 05:49
Originally posted by Disconnect Disconnect wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:


Again, if you had the original DSOTM and Sgt Peppers in the English pressing, instead of the American trash copies that were taken from a cheap cassette (so to speak), you would very quickly hear it on a good system, that the remasters are crap and then some! Sadly this is an example that only a handful of us left over have any idea about ... but the scary part for me is that these folks doing remasters are putting more effort into the older stuff than they are into the new music, and that is criminal ... the new music and folks need help to get off the copy of a copy of a copy so their work won't sound like everyone else's ... something that was not what we heard 50 years ago ... I wish folks today understood that, instead of standing up for their favorites.


great point, Pedro...I agree 100%

Hi,

Thx ... but it is a scary fight on my part, as the majority of folks here seem to refuse to read anything, so their one line say nothing, looks better. 

That's not to say that the remasters are not helping, some are, and some I'm not sure they are, but in the end, I would rather the whole of GG was done, and not just one album, so a new audience gets a chance to hear it better ... assuming you are not an old LP person like I was 30 years ago, with over 3K LP's, the majority of which was imports and the experimental stuff I still mention here every day! Any of those old folks with a high end stereo system, or one reasonably good system, will listen to a lot of these remasters and probably want to go throw up ... makes it look like this instrument separated from the others sounds better than the whole band ... !!!!!! ... soooo today's audience!

In the end, though, I'm looking at it as just another version of the same thing, just like the 1960's when Bernstein, Ozawa, Karajan and many conductors, all had to have their own version of a symphony or opera ... it wasn't all bad, but after seeing yet another Rite of Spring, the 25th version ... it was time to tune out! I think that we are going to see the same thing here with a lot of those things from the 1970's ... and even the Kinks will be trashed and forgotten after the hoopla! ... and Tomita's was the better version of all!!!!!

Side Note: One of the great things about "recording" and its history is that from the days of Stokowski on the classical music recording setup was adjusted to different items had a proper touch in the composition, and Stokowski was known to sit the orchestra differently so he could get the proper emphasis he wanted. Rock music, in the early days was not recorded well at all ... 2 or 3 mikes up front and ciao baby ... and this was one of the hassles at the BBC, because the folks that did a lot of classical music, did not want their equipment destroyed by long hairs and poor musicians. By the time that Abbey Road is out, things are recorded individually, not always (almost never!!!) as a group ... and this is what we see and hear today ... and why we like solos so much ... we're used to hearing them apart from the band, more or less!!!

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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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