2009 Album Releases
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Topic: 2009 Album Releases
Posted By: Logan
Subject: 2009 Album Releases
Date Posted: February 17 2025 at 08:12
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I did prepare this the other day, Been sick, getting slowly better, can't focus well on TV despite watching My Kitchen Rules Australia, little to do. Today will be a full day out with taking my son to a robotics tournament. 2009 is very good year for Progressive Rock and is an unusual year in that I know and and rate highly three of the top four albums. Magma's was my album of the year for 2009 in 2009. And that Present might have been my number two (I could look that up but I like to make lists fresher and I got to know so much since then and got into different music avenues, especially as I got more into Indie and related music over the past years.. Just a few more years of the polls with Collab lists. I have done lists at Awesome Prog going back to the early 90s, and would like to see more ways of us sharing and comparing our lists although there have been many such topics on that. Mira did an excellent related series. To me there is something almost therapeutic about list-making, learn about music from others lists, and it can increase my passion for music. This poll comes in three sections and an "other" (see details on when to use), and multiple voting is not enabled. One can list all ones faves anyway and I do no treat such poll as contests. I feel like societies emphasise and facilitate competition (and winning) too much commonly and cooperation (and caring and sharing) often not enough. There is my not deep thought of the day. The first eight are taken from the unfiltered, except by year, Prog Archives Top Album Chart for 2009. The second eight is taken from the top fourteen listed albums of the 2009 Collab Album of the Year topic. I don't wish to duplicate albums across sections. The third eight is from my top eleven Awesome Prog for 2009 list. "Other" as a voting option is intended to use if you don't like any of the listed options. That said, I would ask people to mention their favourites both on and off the list. If, for instance, your favourite on the list is Magma's E-Re, but your actual favourite is Weezer's Raditude (Weezer is an in-joke with my eldest child and I. I have not heard the album), then I request voting for and mentioning Magma's album in a post while also mentioning Weezer's as being your actual favourite album of 2009. So I would like to hear about what people like both on AND off the list if applicable and, to reiterate, for the "other" voting poll option only to be used if nothing is liked that is already listed. Again, mention as many of your favourites as you like, both and off the list. And feel free to mention what you don't like that is listed too, and then preferably why it does not appeal. Pleas mention your vote, mention if you can't vote (reason), and mention other likes if applicable. I am a details-oriented guy so don't worry about writing too much, as long as it is sufficiently relevant I guess. :) https://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?syears=2009" rel="nofollow - PA's Top 8 from its Progressive Rock Albums chart 1. Magma - Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré (Zeuhl) 2. Riverside - Anno Domini High Definition (Progressive Metal) 3. Present - Barbaro (Ma Non Troppo) (RIO/Avant Prog) 4. maudlin of the Well - Part the Second (Experimental/Post Metal) 5. Big Big Train - The Underfall Yard (Crossover Prog) 6. Leprous - Tall Poppy Syndrome (Tech/Extreme Prog Metal) 7. Mastodon - Crack the Skye (Tech/Extreme Prog Metal) 8. Forgas Band Phenomena - L'Axe du Fou / Axis of Madness https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65430" rel="nofollow - Taken from the top 14 Collaborators Top Prog Rock Albums of 2009 Magma - Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré (the actual #1. The Collab Album of the Year, but also number one in PA chart) maudlin of the well - Part The Second (the actual # 2, but already listed) 1. Transatlantic - The Whirldwind (Symphonic Prog, #3 in collab list) 2. The Decemberists - The Hazards of Love (Prog Folk, #4 in collab list) 3. Porcupine Tree - The Incident (Heavy Prog, #5 in collab list) Riverside - Anno Domini High Definition (the actual #6 in collab list, but already listed) Mastodon - Crack The Skye (the actual #7 in collab list, but already listed) Between The Buried and Me - The Great Misdirect (the actual #8 in collab list, but already listed) 4. The Mars Volta - Octahedron (Heavy Prog, #9 in collab list) 5. Miriodor - Avanti! (RIO/Avant Prog, #10 in collab list) Big Big Train - The Underfall Yard (#11 in collab list, already listed) 6. Isis - Wavering Radiant (Experimental/Post Metal, #12 in collab list) 7. Deluge Grander - The Form of the Good (Symphonic Prog, #13 in collab list) 8. Astra - The Weirding (Pysych/Space, #14 in collab list) https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/ap/aoty-2009/vote" rel="nofollow - From my top 11 at Awesome Prog 1. Natural Snow Buildings - Daughter of Darkness (in PA's Post Rock/Math rock category) Magma - Ëmëhntëhtt-Rê (at #2 in my AwesomeProg list but already listed, was my number one for 2009 in Collab AOTY) 2. St. Vincent - Actor (not in PA, Art Pop, Indie Rock, Neo-Psych) Miriodor - Avanti! (already listed) 3. Natural Snow Buildings - Shadow Kingdom (in PA's Post Rock/Math rock category) 4. John Fruscniante - The Empyrean (not in PA, Art Rock) 5. Aranis - Songs From Mirage (in PA, RIO/Avant prog) 6. The Antlers - Hospice (not in PA and not to be confused with Psych/Space Antlers that is in PA) The Decemberists - The Hazards of Love (already listed) 7. Matt Berry - Witchazel (not in PA, Pysch Pop, British Folk Rock) 8. Sweet Trip - You Will Never Know Why (not in PA, Indie Pop, Dream Pop, Indie Rock Here is my top 20 at Awesome Prog, the order is not always that meaningful and some albums should be re-visited more than others to assess with current ears. I often favour that which is newer to me but this is real mix of stuff I liked at the time, much later and got to know throughout 2009 plus. 1. https://awesomeprog.com/releases/28086#tag=%20%7bap:28086%7d" rel="nofollow - Natural Snow Buildings - Daughter of Darkness Dark Ritualistic Neo Non-Prog Drone Rock/Noise 2. https://awesomeprog.com/releases/27720#tag=%20%7bap:27720%7d" rel="nofollow - Magma - Ëmëhntëhtt-Rê Flashy Creative French Prog Art Rock/Zeuhl 3. https://awesomeprog.com/releases/72788#tag=%20%7bap:72788%7d" rel="nofollow - St. Vincent - Actor Bittersweet Melodic Neo Non-Prog Art Pop/Independent 4. https://awesomeprog.com/releases/23093#tag=%20%7bap:23093%7d" rel="nofollow - Miriodor - Avanti! Quirky Exp Prog Avant RIO/Jazz 5. https://awesomeprog.com/releases/28088#tag=%20%7bap:28088%7d" rel="nofollow - Natural Snow Buildings - Shadow Kingdom Prog Post Rock 6. https://awesomeprog.com/releases/23593#tag=%20%7bap:23593%7d" rel="nofollow - John Frusciante - The Empyrean Mellow Melodic Non-Prog Rock 7. https://awesomeprog.com/releases/27696#tag=%20%7bap:27696%7d" rel="nofollow - Aranis - Songs from mirage Prog RIO 8. https://awesomeprog.com/releases/77572#tag=%20%7bap:77572%7d" rel="nofollow - The Antlers - Hospice 9. https://awesomeprog.com/releases/23248#tag=%20%7bap:23248%7d" rel="nofollow - The Decemberists - The Hazards Of Love Ominous Melodic Prog Alt Rock/Pop 10. https://awesomeprog.com/releases/77548#tag=%20%7bap:77548%7d" rel="nofollow - Matt Berry - Witchazel Humorous Pastoral Neo Prog-Adj Folk Pop/Psychedelia 11. https://awesomeprog.com/releases/64779#tag=%20%7bap:64779%7d" rel="nofollow - Sweet Trip - You Will Never Know Why Melancholic Melodic Prog Pop/Electronic 12. https://awesomeprog.com/releases/27739#tag=%20%7bap:27739%7d" rel="nofollow - Present - Barbaro(ma non troppo) Manic Uncommon Prog Avant RIO 13. https://awesomeprog.com/releases/25301#tag=%20%7bap:25301%7d" rel="nofollow - miRthkon - Vehicle Prog Avant RIO/Jazz 14. https://awesomeprog.com/releases/22339#tag=%20%7bap:22339%7d" rel="nofollow - Cheer Accident - Fear Draws Misfortune Exp Prog Avant Rock/Jazz 15. https://awesomeprog.com/releases/24714#tag=%20%7bap:24714%7d" rel="nofollow - Maudlin of the Well - Part the Second Mellow Eclectic Exp Prog Avant Rock/Metal 16. https://awesomeprog.com/releases/21840#tag=%20%7bap:21840%7d" rel="nofollow - Mono - Hymn to the Immortal Wind Calm Orchestral Exp Japanese Prog Post Rock/Independent 17. https://awesomeprog.com/releases/23344#tag=%20%7bap:23344%7d" rel="nofollow - Astra - The Weirding Trippy Psych Prog Retro Rock 18. https://awesomeprog.com/releases/24262#tag=%20%7bap:24262%7d" rel="nofollow - Kotebel - Ouroboros Gloomy Eclectic Prog Avant Rock/Jazz 19. https://awesomeprog.com/releases/23824#tag=%20%7bap:23824%7d" rel="nofollow - Deluge Grander - The Form of the Good Playful Tech Prog Avant Rock/Jazz 20. https://awesomeprog.com/releases/25595#tag=%20%7bap:25595%7d" rel="nofollow - Diablo Swing Orchestra - Sing-Along Songs For the Damned and Delirious Prog Avant Swing I do hope to make at least one poll in PA eventually where every active forum member likes one option enough to post in it. 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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 17 2025 at 08:23
| Astra - The Weirding |
Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: February 17 2025 at 08:26
Big Big Train - The Underfall Yard 
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 17 2025 at 08:41
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: February 17 2025 at 08:48
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ADHD ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: February 17 2025 at 08:57
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My vote goes to The Decemberists. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to: 
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: February 17 2025 at 09:22
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Present > Magma, Aranis, Miriodor, Forgas ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: February 17 2025 at 10:04
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Present. I'm becoming more self-adhesive as I get older. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: February 17 2025 at 10:06
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Astra – The Weirding ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: February 17 2025 at 13:49
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Transatlantic and BBT from this list. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: February 17 2025 at 14:51
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Tough one! There are two of the monster albums of the 21st Century sitting near the top and I can't choose between them! Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré and Part the Second ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 17 2025 at 16:45
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I only know a small number of these, from which I probably like Aranis most. I have a weak spot for The Whirlwind, I can hear so much joy in it that they had playing this. The best albums i have from this year are non-prog. Knive by Svarte Greiner and Tyondai Braxton's Central Market beat all prog albums by some distance in my book. Tortoise's Beacons of Ancestorship and Buried Alone - Tales of Crushing Defeat by Knifeworld are two very good prog albums.
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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: February 17 2025 at 17:23
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Voted Astra greta selection, lot of music I like Deluge Grander Transatlantic RIverside BBT Porcupine Tree FBP |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: February 17 2025 at 18:58
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Astra is my pick. The others... Indukti- Idmen Long Distance Calling- Avoid The Light Gosta Berlings Saga- Detta Har Haunt Neom- Arkana Temporis Amplifier- Eternity ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: February 17 2025 at 21:10
| Some good ones here, but I'm going with Magma. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 17 2025 at 21:43
| 1. https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=22960#tag=%20%7bap:24073%7d" rel="nofollow - Riverside - Anno Domini High Definition [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2BJkbdmzqURLLnS6xQBmlA" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 2. https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=25416#tag=%20%7bap:27375%7d" rel="nofollow - Big Big Train - The Underfall Yard [ https://bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/album/the-underfall-yard" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/0Oc9PWfIxXsmPVPQ6aet3c" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 3. https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=22188#tag=%20%7bap:23617%7d" rel="nofollow - IQ - Frequency [ https://iq-gep.bandcamp.com/album/frequency" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1OFVHUjIWdHrYvphwz4W8z" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 4. https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=20537#tag=%20%7bap:22075%7d" rel="nofollow - Steven Wilson - Insurgentes [ https://kscopemusic.bandcamp.com/album/insurgentes-remastered" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/3psPvfJX0dMn05RK7fqcIL" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 5. https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=26502#tag=%20%7bap:27818%7d" rel="nofollow - ΦEarth - IOEarth [ https://open.spotify.com/album/30Kjv91HZSgki1BkJ3c9py" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 6. https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23205#tag=%20%7bap:23344%7d" rel="nofollow - Astra - The Weirding [ https://open.spotify.com/album/3Ap5ndMkIgPZ1K2CAlkkkV" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 7. https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=25130#tag=%20%7bap:27661%7d" rel="nofollow - Steve Hackett - Out Of The Tunnel's Mouth [ https://insideoutmusic.bandcamp.com/album/out-of-the-tunnels-mouth-deluxe-edition" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/0siTcp8jYbCmrQnvuR5uS9" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 8. https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=22941#tag=%20%7bap:24262%7d" rel="nofollow - Kotebel - Ouroboros [ https://kotebel-music.bandcamp.com/album/ouroboros" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/5VlG6WnU9XvCVhbyAp97ST" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 9. https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24233#tag=%20%7bap:24520%7d" rel="nofollow - Animals As Leaders - Animals As Leaders [ https://animalsasleaders.bandcamp.com/album/animals-as-leaders" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1BRtQtljRJIxroJXI20K39" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 10. https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24673#tag=%20%7bap:26786%7d" rel="nofollow - Lazuli - Réponse incongrue à l'inéluctable [ https://open.spotify.com/album/7eNgFwFeg9JprzYlGUUmWG" rel="nofollow - SPO ] |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: February 17 2025 at 22:10
| Voted for Riverside. I still need to put together my list and will be a while as I go through the 2010s. So maybe in a couple of months. 😆 |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: February 18 2025 at 00:41
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motW > Magma > Decemberists >= BBT ------------- 
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Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: February 18 2025 at 15:08
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I voted for Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré and to be honest that is my favourite prog album of 2009... but since Animal Collective are included on Awesomeprog I feel compelled to put them on the number 1 spot in my list :P I could see that Natural Snow Buildings album growing on me quite a bit but I feel like it warrants a more attentive listen from me first. 1. Animal Collective - http://anmlcollectve.bandcamp.com/album/merriweather-post-pavilion" rel="nofollow - Merriweather Post Pavillion 2. Magma - http://seventhrecordsmagma.bandcamp.com/album/em-hnt-htt-r" rel="nofollow - Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré 3. Mastodon - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mO7esBOtByOa6ri2uOIZurWwnqqdyoEzU" rel="nofollow - Crack The Skye 4. Sax Ruins - http://ruins-ipecac.bandcamp.com/album/yawiquo-sax-ruins" rel="nofollow - Yawiquo 5. Kurai - http://altrockproductions.bandcamp.com/album/kurai" rel="nofollow - Kurai 6. Ozric Tentacles - http://kscopemusic.bandcamp.com/album/the-yumyum-tree" rel="nofollow - The Yumyum Tree 7. Cab - Theatre De Marionnettes 8. UKZ - Radiation 9. Wayne Krantz - http://waynekrantz.bandcamp.com/album/krantz-carlock-lefebvre" rel="nofollow - Krantz Carlock Lefebvre 10. Liquid Trio Experiment 2 - http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ_zfyR1V20" rel="nofollow - When The Keyboard Breaks: Live In Chicago ------------- https://mirasnelder.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow - Freelance composer, accepting commissions | https://mirasnelder.bandcamp.com/album/altered-acuity" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp page |
Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: February 18 2025 at 15:12
| Riverside |
Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: February 18 2025 at 16:14
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I'll vote for Present for this list. Lost of very close contenders, including Magma, Leprous, Mars Volta. I have a distinct memory of listening to Present one of the first times sitting on my couch with my roommate and boss while we all-night-coded a game to be ready for release for the iPad launch. My boss looked at me like I was crazy when it came on and my roommate, who was used to my taste in music by then, just kind of rolled his eyes. A different time. My actual favourite of the year is not in this poll though, it is Number Seven by Phideaux, I know they have been the top/near the top for a few years and this is the album that started all that. I doubt I rated it that highly back then, but over the years this has been such a sticker, I've probably listened to it more than any other from that year. Destined Solitair (Beardfish) was probably the one I considered my top at the time and it's still in a very resilient #2 position, it was a very strange/elastic album but very good. A few other good ones: Alec K Redfearn and the Eyesores - The Blind Spot Cheer-Accident - Fear Draws Misfortune The Dear Hunter - Act III Devin Townsend Project - Ki Devin Townsend Project - Addicted Fiery Furnaces - I'm Going Away Gazpacho - Tick Tock miRthkon - Vehicle Secret Green - To Wake the King Shadow Circus - Whispers and Screams Simon Steensland - Fat Again Wobber - Afterglow Zu - Carboniferous This was the first year I ever put in effort to exploring albums from a specific year, but because streaming wasn't a thing I hadn't yet hit the point of over-exploring. As a result I formed an attachment to quite a bit of music from this year, and I have a very soft spot for it. It was a very different time in my life that I enjoyed very much and I miss quite a bit, and thinking about the music brings back a lot of good feelings.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: February 19 2025 at 00:28
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^ Nice list! Would be awesome to see it added to the combined chart at AP. The poll result here is also interesting, with one vote per user. At AP each user has 20 votes and can add any 2009 release they like https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa/aoty-2009/results" rel="nofollow - https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa/aoty-2009/results Here's the top 5 so far:
------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: February 19 2025 at 10:16
| Ok, I bit, I made a list, but it doesn't seem to be updating the overall list. Do I need to copy it here? I'd rather not, seems like doing so would be taking over this thread about the poll more than I already did by bothering to drop a list of albums. |
Posted By: Olape
Date Posted: February 19 2025 at 10:37
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I've listened about ten albums from the list... I also love Riverside and Maudlin of the Well. ------------- 
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 19 2025 at 11:08
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^ Love Avanti! Wonderful album. Was one of my two two albums of the year then and remains one of my favourite albums. Miriodor was the first contemporary "prog" band that I really got into (in 2004) as before that I was so 60s and 70s focused and Avanti! is my favourite Miriodor album. It's more accessible Miriodor actually, I find. I had hoped for that album to get some love in this topic. I read this review at rateyourmusic of it which manages to pooh pooh Miriodor, Lynch and jazz.:
I know who I would like to "lynch".
I should not speak for Mike, especially as I tend to get things wrong, but I think that if you are not registered logged in user (A guest) then you might more-so want to copy your list here. I'm happy to see people post as many lists as they like. Won't take away from the thread for me at all. I have dropped eight of my faves in the poll, my top 11 in the OP, and my exported top 20 from Awesome Prog. If you have an account at RYM and are logged-in, and stick with the same browser?, it should be fine for updating? Never mind, kindly disregard/ignore, the Mike man has spoken. |
Poohkali wrote:Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: February 19 2025 at 11:49
Hi! You need to export the list to my https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=134440" rel="nofollow - counting thread to link your AP account to your PA forum account. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 19 2025 at 23:02
Just a note that my list includes Steven Wilson only because it's shown on Mike's AP site as a 2009 release but is apparently a 2008 release. (I don't track these things!)
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: February 20 2025 at 00:21
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I didn't see the "other" option on this poll until I had already clicked Magma, which is an amazing album. But my favorite all time studio album was released in 2009. https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23455" rel="nofollow - Exivious' self-titled album will be hard to bump from the top. Still sitting in Tech/Extreme for some reason. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: February 20 2025 at 02:38
Corrected! You may want to adjust your 2008/2009 releases I'm currently cleaning up these issues, there's about 1500 releases in the AP database where the year differs between AP, PA and RYM. It's less than 2% of all the releases listed, and I'm fixing the higher profile releases first. I'll also announce the changes in the main thread in prog polls. Regarding Insurgentes in particular: Here's the different release dates. Most releases where in 2009, but apparently two special editions were released in advance in November 2008. https://musicbrainz.org/release-group/b1c5ea39-8f96-355b-bfe4-84a7805db75f" rel="nofollow - https://musicbrainz.org/release-group/b1c5ea39-8f96-355b-bfe4-84a7805db75f ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 20 2025 at 20:59
| ^ Done thanks. (Doesn't change my top vote so I won't repeat a list) |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 20 2025 at 21:05
I am glad that you clicked on Magma. The other option is intended to be for those who like nothing in the poll. To vote for an album option if one likes any of them and then mention that as well as ones' actual favourite in a post. I definitely do appreciate people mentioning others. I do need to work on making clearer and more concise directions. Posting polls is an artform, and I do like to try different approaches. EDIT: Forgot to mention that I listened to and appreciated the video embed. :) |