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Topic: Floyd in a 2nd row - Meddle and beforePosted By: Heart of the Matter
Subject: Floyd in a 2nd row - Meddle and before
Date Posted: January 19 2025 at 06:42
One vote, another PF foursome taking every permutation, choose the row of your preference, speak your mind. Thanks Jim (Finnforest) for this nice selection!
Replies: Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 19 2025 at 06:54
Meddle > AHM > Saucerful > Ummagumma
Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: January 19 2025 at 07:04
Meddle > Saucerful > AHM > Ummagumma
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 19 2025 at 07:18
1. A Saucerful of Secrets
2. Meddle
3. Atom Heart Mother
4. Ummagumma
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: January 19 2025 at 07:51
Heart of the Matter wrote:
One vote, another PF foursome taking every permutation, choose the row of your preference, speak your mind.
Thanks Jim (Finnforest) for this nice selection!
Nice! Thank you.
My preferences aren't quite as baked-in with the early stuff. They can shift a bit from year to year. Right now my fave is AHM, then Umma, Saucerful, and Meddle.
Meddle is far from my favorite Floyd album, but it is a special album somehow, internally. It is the album I chose to pop in my car CD player as I drove to the funeral of each of my parents. It was just kind of automatic. It turned out to be a good choice for that, allowing my mind to hold onto something that wasn't too in my face, something that got me across town intact with something of a calming effect.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: January 19 2025 at 08:46
Octopus II wrote:
Meddle > Saucerful > AHM > Ummagumma
Yes, but I feel like including the debut: Meddle > Saucerful > Piper > AHM > Ummagumma
Love the four first here more than anything Pink Floyd released after Meddle (Doesn't mean I don't like their 1970's classics. Only that I like these even more)
Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: January 19 2025 at 09:14
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: January 19 2025 at 09:16
Meddle > AHM > Saucerful > UG
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: January 19 2025 at 09:50
Meddle > Umma > AHM > Saucerful
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: January 19 2025 at 09:53
Umma > Meddle > Saucerful > AHM. A batholith fell out of my nose and I tore my baseball card muscle. Oops.
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Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: January 19 2025 at 10:13
Meddle > Saucerful > Ummagumma > AHM
Meddle got me into the Floyd (and was my gateway into prog) so it remains a special album to me
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Posted By: Olape
Date Posted: January 19 2025 at 11:34
AHM>Meddle>Saucerful>Umma
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Posted By: MFP
Date Posted: January 19 2025 at 11:45
Meddle > AHM > Umma > Saucerful
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: January 19 2025 at 13:25
Meddle, Umma , AHM, Saucefrful
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: January 19 2025 at 14:39
Meddle > Umma > Saucerful > AHM. I replaced the cannoli cartridges in my Betty CrockerŽ Mellotron.
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: January 19 2025 at 15:10
I guess the last choice.
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: January 19 2025 at 15:29
Ummagumma > Meddle > AHM > Saucerful
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 10:09
Meddle, Saucer, Umma, AHM
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 12:05
Hi,
I'm gonna play all 4 of the albums at the same time, and see if something shows up that helps me vote ... some of these rip up my mind more than any dope ever did!
I'm not sure I ever listened to any PF and thought that one album was better than the other ... it was PF!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 15:57
Ummagumma first choice - the live album is just the essential Pink Floyd. It's tight between the other three. I go for Meddle based on the strength of Echoes. Saucerful > AHM really on the mood of the day. Love 'em all.
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 16:22
From my point of view,
Meddle is a minor work.
The others are masterpieceses, Saucerful isnt true prog but wonderful...
I've chosen
Atom Heart Mother, Saucerful, Ummagumma, Meddle.
------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: January 23 2025 at 01:08
moshkito wrote:
Hi,
I'm gonna play all 4 of the albums at the same time, and see if something shows up that helps me vote ... some of these rip up my mind more than any dope ever did!
I'm not sure I ever listened to any PF and thought that one album was better than the other ... it was PF!
I don't really think in terms of better (well, sometimes I do that too, but not in regards to this poll), but I certainly know that Meddle is closer to my heart than... A Momentary Lapse of Reason. And to be fair Heart of the Matter asks for: Your order of preference?. You may not have an order of preference, but it's not the same as "better".
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: January 23 2025 at 01:49
Lewian wrote:
Ummagumma first choice - the live album is just the essential Pink Floyd. It's tight between the other three.
Perhaps wrongly, I'd tried not to figure in the live album as I thought that was a bit unfair, as for me, it does give the rest a significant star-rating lift. Incidentally, I recently treated myself to the Live: Fillmore West 1970 2CD set, which I'm sure you'll love. It extrapolates their classic, pre=Meddle material almost to breaking point...
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: January 23 2025 at 02:28
Atom >> Meddle >> Secrets >> Umma (not a fan of Gumma, if the album had been called UmmaUmma, I'd probably love it)
reason why AHM is better than Meddle? No offensive tracks like Seamus & San Tropez.
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: January 23 2025 at 02:50
Sean Trane wrote:
reason why AHM is better than Meddle? No offensive tracks like Seamus & San Tropez.
but Echoes is better than anything on AHM... let's just say, the highs are higher and the lows are lower?
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: January 23 2025 at 03:24
Jared wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
reason why AHM is better than Meddle? No offensive tracks like Seamus & San Tropez.
but Echoes is better than anything on AHM... let's just say, the highs are higher and the lows are lower?
I'd put the two epics on the same pedestal (and in the top 3 Floyd tracks), so it's a tie.
Sure OOTD is better than the rest of AHM, but the rest of Meddle is weaker than most/all of AHM's flipside. (Pillows & Fearless being on the same level than If & Summer).
------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: January 23 2025 at 04:01
I never understood what is supposed to be wrong with San Tropez. I think it's perfectly lovely. I don't mind Seamus either. As I find the rest of it absolutely fantastic, Meddle is my favorite Pink Floyd album. Or perhaps even one of my favorite albums, period.
Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: January 23 2025 at 05:31
Saperlipopette! wrote:
moshkito wrote:
Hi,
I'm gonna play all 4 of the albums at the same time, and see if something shows up that helps me vote ... some of these rip up my mind more than any dope ever did!
I'm not sure I ever listened to any PF and thought that one album was better than the other ... it was PF!
I don't really think in terms of better (well, sometimes I do that too, but not in regards to this poll), but I certainly know that Meddle is closer to my heart than... A Momentary Lapse of Reason. And to be fair Heart of the Matter asks for: Your order of preference?. You may not have an order of preference, but it's not the same as "better".
Yes, that's the intention of my opening question, thank you both for bring it up. Observing people's usage of comparative terms when they didn't want to pick just one candidate, I thought: Why don't we vote for the order, instead of the album? That entails a limitation to 3 or 4 albums (if we wish to have all permutations at hand) but in exchange, votes don't have to leave any of them out. In a "traditional" poll, you have to post your order of preference, if any. In this "in-a-row" approach, you'd have to post who you want to dismiss (if any), or, eventually, your opinion that no particular order applies.
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: January 23 2025 at 06:26
Saperlipopette! wrote:
I never understood what is supposed to be wrong with San Tropez. I think it's perfectly lovely. I don't mind Seamus either. As I find the rest of it absolutely fantastic, Meddle is my favorite Pink Floyd album. Or perhaps even one of my favorite albums, period.
I would trade away those two tracks with (their next "album") Obscured By Clouds' better tracks where they wouldn't be such an ear-sore and more in sonic with OBS' sonics, as opposed to Meddle's sonics (even the artwork announces the unique sounds inside). Seen from the outer sleeve's POV, it starts & ends phenomenally well, but the middle part is disappointing (IMHO)
At worst, I would've included Axe and Cymbeline (not yet available to the wide public) instead..
Ditto with the two minutes of You'll Never Walk Alone at the end of Fearless. Not worthy of Floyd's sonics.
BTW, Pompeii's worst moment is the Knobs dog howling. was there a need to replicate the "joke" in Seamus inside Meddle?
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