Four progressive electronic musicians
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Topic: Four progressive electronic musicians
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Subject: Four progressive electronic musicians
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 09:49
| I wanted this to focus on solo musicians in the P.E. genre. Plus, I figured Tangerine Dream would easily win this anyway if they were included so please don't put them in other (that would be cheating and defeat the purpose). |
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 10:00
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1. Vangelis 2. Kitaro 3. Jean Michel Jarre 4. Klaus Schulze Also a worthy mention for Austrian keyboard wizard, Gandalf.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 10:02
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Jean Michel Jarre I've listened to his music the most out of these musicians.
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Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 10:46
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1. Jean Michel Jarre 2. Vangelis 3. Klaus Schulze 4. Kitaro
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 11:00
I never thought of him as electronic for some reason but don't really know him anyway. There's also Zanov and a bunch of others but the ones I chose are arguably the four most well known. I could be wrong but I don't think any others come close to being as well known (no, Aphex Twin doesn't count.
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Psychedelic Paul wrote:Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 11:48
Jarre, one of my favorite artists since I was a kid. Even seen him live a bunch of times. Vangelis is a good second  ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Criswell
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 12:18
Concur...but they're all top notch and all different. Jarre has a tiny catalog compared to the others...
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 13:01
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Hi, Sad that Klaus Schulze is not listened to or appreciated as much as all the others. In terms of experimentation and talent, his guts to play live, and not repeat himself is important and his changes and development, specially in the 1970's and then 1980's is phenomenal ... but sadly for the most part he was only available as an IMPORT in those days, and they were $20 dollars each already .... but at least the music was far out.
My enjoyment of it was even better listened to than most ... Guy Guden for at least 30 years NEVER FAILED to not play any album of his in its entirety, which was a treat that could not be replicated anywhere else AFAIK. Some of the prettiest stuff KS did was in THE WORKS series (2 of them) that came out way too soon, and were too expansive and only available exclusively to the artist's fan club for many years. All of it is released now individually, and there are some really neat things, and many of them are completely improvised with many artists ... I really miss the radio freedom that helped so much of this music ... and for the record, Guy played all of the Vangelis albums in their entirety, Jean Michel Jarre the same, and Kitaro I know he played some, specially in the early days ... I think he might have lost favor with Guy when he became a New Age darling. But his long pieces and suites are really fine. A really tough poll ... and I only selected Vangelis, because he is very visual and did films beautifully ... and will probably be remembered as a very well respected soundtrack composer. Kitaro, I need to listen to the later stuff ... haven't checked his work in at least 20 years. My KS is almost complete. My Vangelis is complete going back to AC. I think I have Kitaro's first 6 or 7 albums, of which at least 1 is a double .... have to re-check now but the LP's are all boxed ... I have to move! JMJ ... I think I have the first 4 or 5 titles. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 13:03
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Oh, auto-vote for Klaus Schulze from me. The master. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 13:06
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Jean Michel Jarre - Oxygene ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 13:15
| Vangelis by far! |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 13:22
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Vangelis, followed by Schulze for this list. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 13:40
Gandalf is awesome. My list: 1. Vangelis (started strong, ended strong, a bona fide icon) 2. Kitaro / Schulze (tie, as both did their very best work in the '70s & early '80s) 3. Jarre (arguably the most overrated EM artist of them all) ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 13:49
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if one far prefer one to the others (I love albums by all), it might be
neat if people would list their favourite albums from each artist. I went with Schulze, but I love music from all of these. And I know some who might, say love Vangelis Blade Runner soundtrack but dislike or are unfamiliar with some of his earlier work. This can help to gauge overall familiarity as well what specific works appeal generally and from one's favourite (if one has one). Whatever out specific tastes, one things I guess many of us have in common here is that we are music nerds/geeks (and more power to us). ;) With Jarre I adore both Oxygene and Equinoxe. Kitaro I was especially huge on a teenager and in my early to mid 20s. Ten Kai and Oasis are fantasitic, but I also love all of the Silk Road ones. Kitaro is one of the very few instrumental music acts I introduced my wife to that she also loved. Maybe that we met in Japan plays some part in that. With Klaus Schulze, whom I voted for, all of 70s albums are very meaningful to me. Mirage is a particular special one to me. Timewind, Moondawn, and Cyborg are some others that have meant a lot to me. Vangelis is another that I was very into as a child (80s) and young man-child (90s) and I continue to love. I started off liking his 80s soundtrack music (The Bounty especially) and tend to gravitate the most to his 70s period now.. I adore The Dragon (even if "unofficial") and really like Hypothesis. I adore Earth. And L'apolcalypse des animaux, Albedo 0.39 and Spiral are some other favourites. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 14:12
 2000: Jean Michel Jarre - Live in Cairo: Twelve Dreams of the Sun - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTpyqAyFlQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTpyqAyFlQ 2010: Kitaro - Live in Zacatecas, Mexico - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PATQqoolgRA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PATQqoolgRA  1977: Klaus Schulze - Body Love (soundtrack) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzSyuIX8hvU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzSyuIX8hvU 2004: Vangelis - Alexander (soundtrack) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvSVZ5NoR9K6OUXjZ9WN8WX" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvSVZ5NoR9K6OUXjZ9WN8WX |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 14:13
| Hmmmm, maybe I should have added an "I don't know all of these artists" option since I get the feeling that many who voted don't know K.S. or even Kitaro. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 14:17
At least JMJ never had an album called Sex Power.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 14:17
I've listened to every album by every artist in this poll, so from my point of view, these are the best four electronic artists you could have chosen.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 14:19
Thanks Paul. They seem like they are by far the most well known. By the way, as a sidenote, I don't consider Brian Eno to part of this genre. I would say he's more like ambient.
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Posted By: MFP
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 14:20
| Vangelis |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 14:37
Thanks Paul. The only one of those I have is Body Love.
I do too. Klaus Schulze is such a big name in progressive music, but I am surprised sometimes at what people, even hardcore forum users, don't know. I am a detail oriented guy by nature, and I find it so much more interesting and better for discussion and discovery if people say something about what they know and like from such short list rather than just listing a name. I'm not implying that they should not do it that way. Just my wacky preference. As long as there is discussion people are enjoying at the forum, and the community tries to be supportive of each other when warranted, that matters most to me. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Criswell
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 14:51
JMJarre - Chronologie KSchultz - Moondawn Kitaro - Silk Road II Vangelis - 1492 - Conquest of Paradise (one of the great soundtracks of the last 40 years, IMO)
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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 15:41
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Klaus Schultz is by far the most the most important and influential, culturally. I think without him, the wider electronic music genre wouldn't have developed and expanded into such diverse ways. Vangelis is the most prolific and certainly in an absolute league of his own. JM Jarre's earlier works are fantastic and very highly respected in all musical genres Kitaro; i've not listened to much outside of FEFB, it didnt really resonate with me. I very much enjoy the music of all the first three. ------------- |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 17:38
Point being? It's a soundtrack. Vangelis never had an album called Oxymore. That's just asking for it. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 17:46
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Klaus Schulze - X Jean Michel Jarre - Equinoxe Vangelis - Blade Runner ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 18:33
Cheesy name for an album (soundtrack or not).
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 18:35
| I have to admit that I didn't expect Vangelis to run way with this poll. |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 19:35
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Schulze easily but I don't know Kitaro. Moondawn, Mirage, Timewind and Picture Music are all really good. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 19:36
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Richard Pinhas would have gotten my vote. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 20:43
Hi, Per EUROCK, in the old days, it had a lot of Richard's philosophical discussions and they were not exactly a fun read ... sometimes more difficult than enjoyable ... something that most inet'rs today won't bother with, I'm sure, as it has a lot more words and paragraphs than me ... (hehehe!!!) ... but somehow it is connected to his music and albums! And you and I are still trying to figure that out! Others that might have deserved being in the list for a vote, but I'm not sure how well known, or heard, they are. Eduard Artemyev ... at least 40 soundtracks and many of them are really different and how the music is used in a few of the films is really special. Probably thought of as the most important composer of soundtracks in Russian Film. Many of his soundtracks are electronic, and The Stalker soundtrack is insane, though I don't think it is available as a disk ... have to check! Ralph Lundsten ... Swedish composer of electronic stuff and a massive discography. I managed to get about 5 or 6 of those early albums, and they are a super listen, specially the "Nature Symphony" series which has quite a few albums. He also did some fun stuff ... and you don't want to miss Robbie asking for a date! Robert Schroeder ... really nice stuff, though later it seems like it became a bit of too much new age. His first album on Klaus Schulze's label was a freak ... it was designed to be played at 45RPM, and I accidentally played it at 33RPM ... only to find, that it made for a really heavy, far out, and totally insane "krautrock" piece of music ... it was fantastic. Forget the faster piece! Eberhard Schoenner ... not given a lot of credit, but often thought as having been the person to help THE POLICE come together. Andy Summers is in at least one of his early albums (Trance-formation), and Sting sings in a couple of the other albums. In the early days he was better thought of as a keyboards player, but later as a composer, arranger and conductor. Deuter ... German guy that was associated with a group of people that ended up with a really bad reputation, specially here in Oregon. Has an incredible discography and it is very nice and enjoyable, and not preachy ... it is very meditative which is what the music is designed for, although I'm not sure that most folks can handle that ... you and I don't really listen to music to look for God, so to speak ... we listen to it to flow and live an internal life that otherwise we don't have the rest of the day ... very nice stuff, and it probably would be more appreciated if he did not exactly mention the group, but I think/wonder if they were the folks that provided the money for a lot of his work. I likely have more in my collection but have to take a look at it first. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 21:03
Hi, I'm so glad to see the number of votes and appreciation for KS ... of all these, while I love them all, I think that KS is probably the most important of them and the amount of improvisations and work with many folks in a lot of albums ... is something that is very impressive, and in the case of a lot of THE WORKS's pieces, really pretty and outstanding, but they were not as well known as the albums, and these things were not released until at least 10/15 years later ... which was a real shame .. it hid some outstanding stuff and work that KS did, although I think that a lot of it was probably just totally free form, and wide open ... later it helped bring about the stuff with Lisa G. which is also very good, and ... LIVE ... something that a lot of folks won't even try!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 21:30
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Never got into KS and for that matter I'm not a bg fan of early TD either. Not my thing. In the 80's I started listening to EM when Prog was dead (more or less). Vangelis and JM Jarre were the main ones for sure but I did like a bit of Kitaro but all the Silk Road parts whatever was a turn off for me. Vangelis was initially not an electronic artist but actually on the avant side of things. He lived in Paris before moving to London in the mid seventies to build on the success of the likes of Rick Wakeman and Mike Oldfield as instrumental artists setting up a custom studio in Shepherds Bush (it's now gone and has been replaced by a block of falts). One of his first releases recorded there was Heaven and Hell. This was more a prog album than just 'electronic' but after that he explored the genre with Spiral and Albedo 0.39 matching J M Jarre best releases Oxygene and Equinox. In terms of commercial succes they became the Ali v Frasier of Electronic Music. No one except Tangerine Dream were close. Into the 80's they both made some fine albums epecially Soil Festivities and Rendez- Vous. I love both. Latterly they both seem to become less relevant as time went on sadly. I did get to see J M Jarre live a couple of times, once with the laser show which was cool. I would vote Vangelis for these albums: Heaven and Hell China Soil Festivities Mask Voices For JM Jarre I highly recommend Oxygene Equinox Magnetic Fields Rendez-Vous Waiting For Cousteau (mainly for the Calypso suite) |
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: November 18 2024 at 23:36
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Voted Schulze 2nd : VAngelis Jarre ?
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 19 2024 at 05:18
| I haven't heard much of Kitaro. I'm overall somewhat ambivalent on all of the others, as all have done great stuff but also lots of things that pass me by. My vote goes to Schulze for a few things that I really love, more than of the others, even though I'm not his biggest fan and I find much of his stuff overlong and not very interesting. Sorry. |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 19 2024 at 05:44
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Vangelis. The smell of Jim Wohlford chewing 43-year old bubble gum. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: November 19 2024 at 06:01
| I would add Larry Fast Synergy, a great master of electronic music. Of the four options given, It's hard to make a choice, but I would vote for Kitaro. |
Posted By: VianaProghead
Date Posted: November 19 2024 at 06:24
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Klaus Schulze for me.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 19 2024 at 09:35
Don't be silly. Vangelis didn't choose it. The director did. EDIT: See Body Love and Body Love Vol. 2 by Klaus Schulze. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 19 2024 at 09:42
I consider every album Larry Fast recorded as Synergy to be essential EM, with the only outlier being Computer Experiments, Volume One, but even that is a fine ambient (not progressive electronic) recording. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 19 2024 at 09:47
Soil Festivities and Albedo 0.39 have gotten the most play from me. I'd add Spiral to the list, minus Voices, and swap China for Direct and there's my top five. Vangelis' final album Juno to Jupiter is excellent, much better than its predecessor Rosetta. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 19 2024 at 10:10
Hi, ... you cheated ... he was on my list to add ... yes indeed, a very nice addition. Kitaro probably deserves better, but I have never thought of him as inferior to anyone ... it's nice stuff, even though it might be thought of as "classical" a lot more than "electronic" ... but it has some really pretty material. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 19 2024 at 10:28
| I hope everyone knows that you pronounce Vangelis with a hard g as in goat. |
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: November 19 2024 at 11:15
Don't neglect Earth his first solo Lp 1973 Vertigo under his full Name Vangelis O'Papathanassiou a wonderful opus very different from the synths paraphernalia he will use later |
Posted By: Criswell
Date Posted: November 19 2024 at 11:51
Electronic Realizations still gets quite a bit of play from me...
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 19 2024 at 11:55
It's exceptional, considering how little gear he used to actually record and engineer it! ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 19 2024 at 11:57
Earth isn't EM, the only reason it's not been mentioned. Another of my favorites is L'Apocalypse des Aminaux. In fact, I do like it more than Heaven and Hell, so consider my top five revised.  ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: November 19 2024 at 12:16
I haven't heard everything he's ever done by a long shot, but here's my favorites so far from each decade: 1970s: China 1980s: Chariots of Fire and Soil Festivities (too hard to choose between the two) 1990s: The City
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 19 2024 at 13:04
Thanks, I love China. While I tend to favour the 70s material (Earth, The Dragon, L'apocalypse des animaux, Albedo 0.39 and Spiral especially), I really like Antarctica from the 80s. I'm not very familiar with music he created post-80s. The first album of his I bought on CD was the compilation Themes (released in 1989). I was very into the kinds of music one would find in the New Age section back in 1989 and the early 90s. Listened to lots of Vangelis and especially Kitaro back then. During my time at PA, definitely Klaus Schulze has meant the most to me of these in the list and is one of my very favourite artists that I really got into over the past 20 years. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 19 2024 at 13:12
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I have to say, this is starting to resemble our Vangelis Appreciation thread! Reading all the comments with interest... ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 19 2024 at 13:20
^ True, very much so.  Can't have too much Vangelis. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 19 2024 at 21:30
I like Direct for the scope it embraces but I think the impressive 'authentic' sound of earlier albums goes missing (no pun intended as he did the soundtrack for that film!) replaced by a feeling of 'fakery'. Voices is so beautiful and delicate for me. Spiral is classic for sure but I might even prefer Beauborg when it comes right down to it.
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 20 2024 at 01:21
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OK: Jean-Michel: If I could only pick one... Rendez-Vous I also enjoy the usual, Eq, Ox 1-3, Magnetic, Chronology, Eq Infinity.. I partly enjoy Zoolook (I think it's bold and innovative, but not as many plays), Revolutions (main theme is great, but like Mike's Crises, I'm not bothered with too much of Side B), Cousteau (the waiting meanders too much for it's own good... maybe the truncated LP version would be an improvement?) Vangelis: If I could only pick one... Albedo 0.39 I also particularly enjoy: H&H, Spiral, China, Soil & Mask L'Apocalypse, Opera Sauvage & Antarctica would be just below.. Beaubourg & Invisible are too intellectual for me... Edgar: If I could only pick one... Epsilon I also enjoy all his other solo works, with Aqua runner up... Pinnacles slightly less so tbh, but it's fine. Klaus Schulze... I'm going to have to give more close attention to; it's been too long since I've heard much, but I remember his early albums and like them.. ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 20 2024 at 06:49
Hi, I wonder if the issue with Klaus Schulze for many folks, is the fact that so much of his work is very long, and in a place where the audience lives by the 5 minute song, I'm not sure that KS is going to get any more appreciation, other than folks that knew him from the earlier days, but even then, it was a full side of a LP, which was anywhere from 20/30 minutes long. The stuff I like the most, though, is the stuff that would not be released regularly for at least 15 years, and when asking about it, his friend/manager (?), basically told me to fudge off. This was THE WORKS series, but one difference in that material ... most of it is just improvisation with various different folks and it goes on non-stop, which was ... even longer than the LP's. But there was in that stuff some incredibly beautiful things, that should have been released before ... but that friend/manager wanted that to be strictly a fan club thing, with an insane price. I'm glad that eventually they gave in and released the stuff on many CD's ... you can finally hear it ... but the improvisation side of KS was so wide and open, that I'm not sure that MIRAGE/MOONDAWN folks were going to like it! But there are some far out things in there ... really far out. It was like a complete new catalog, and different, too! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 20 2024 at 08:15
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^^ I guess my idea of a perfect EM album would be a 20-23 minute piece on Side one and the same on Side 2... I'm less enamoured with 5 minute pieces in this style, but neither am I fussed about anything much longer, as it is difficult to maintain the structure, without aimless improvisations creeping in. For that reason, albums like Epsilon, Ricochet or Rubycon are perfect.... ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 20 2024 at 09:07
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My Top 26 Prog Electronica Artists & Albums Not in the Poll. (one album per artist) 2010: ARC - Church - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mF14a_m02TvCRHnjeY5uC5eR0dS-5l6yQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mF14a_m02TvCRHnjeY5uC5eR0dS-5l6yQ 2000: Ash Ra Tempel & Klaus Schulze - Friendship - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-UvObqiyVg" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-UvObqiyVg 1976: Ashra - New Age of Earth - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8plQdob4JP8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8plQdob4JP8 1994: Ian Boddy - The Deep - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZBR9Wg0fzesGObfm_Sc7zi" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZBR9Wg0fzesGObfm_Sc7zi 1999: Code Indigo - Blue - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nRKXzz30Fg6_uzTx_KjZdUQ3W_iEJgOKU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nRKXzz30Fg6_uzTx_KjZdUQ3W_iEJgOKU 1989: John Dyson - Evolution - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEbE_iTMkKmN3kdE5MA7-159" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEbE_iTMkKmN3kdE5MA7-159 1993: Robert Fox - Blue Mountains Suite - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nt7sYlzt6Wdwcm6Ql_lH88KsuekGUvHlE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nt7sYlzt6Wdwcm6Ql_lH88KsuekGUvHlE 1996: Christopher Franke - The Celestine Prophecy - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nwPnwikMV7D1Y0EaufLv3kBIgSqo7t9xM" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nwPnwikMV7D1Y0EaufLv3kBIgSqo7t9xM 1979: Edgar Froese - Stuntman - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ka_EkKKONP1n6WwzXGp-6QOF0ltpJzAm8" rel="nofollow - 1980: Gandalf - Journey to an Imaginary Land - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpEZVvOdT-Q" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpEZVvOdT- 1991: Manuel Goettsching - Dream & Desire - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF7JDLIauKE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF7JDLIauKE 2021: Paul Haslinger - Exit Ghost II - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m_QX8wEdyp11vXryw6kO4jjn86OkF1_fU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m_QX8wEdyp11vXryw6kO4jjn86OkF1_fU 1977: Michael Hoenig - Departure from the Northern Wasteland - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kAtdy1Td2TcYdQrFN0sDHfvusapJjio68" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kAtdy1Td2TcYdQrFN0sDHfvusapJjio68 1994: Glyn Lloyd-Jones - Ocean of Serenity - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nBBGRn5_2tX-bAcMISCHg6q9X_ESHXu9M" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nBBGRn5_2tX-bAcMISCHg6q9X_ESHXu9M 1993: Paul Nagle - Wavemaker 1993: Andy Pickford - Replicant - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lEGLUBMahSJhavw_sG5pBnA5cgixlsvTc" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lEGLUBMahSJhavw_sG5pBnA5cgixlsvTc 2006: Johannes Schmoelling - Instant City - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kx4TXmVymSAYYxClK4GawXYUg56Md1-8s" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kx4TXmVymSAYYxClK4GawXYUg56Md1-8s 1992: Michael Shipway - Beneath Folly 1983: Mark Shreeve - Assassin - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gPAXgTOXl0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gPAXgTOXl0 1981: Synergy (Larry Fast) - Audion - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-_iTC5E9nU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-_iTC5E9nU 1986: Tangerine Dream - Legend (soundtrack) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84jvSHmXsuA" rel="nofollow - 2020: Transceive - Frozen Circuitry - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kR2FSwFqBcsSsvMKdojhSEYxJIMeBKWOU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kR2FSwFqBcsSsvMKdojhSEYxJIMeBKWOU 1991: Paul Ward - For a Knave 1996: Bekki Williams - Elysian Fields - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nf_JZ8W6X5t8t0F0sHBFQGk4eDgAxzCAY" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nf_JZ8W6X5t8t0F0sHBFQGk4eDgAxzCAY 1995: David Wright - Dissimilar Views - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mop7ZFQRQ7x69Vj_UN67LOucAQU8bPeW4" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mop7ZFQRQ7x69Vj_UN67LOucAQU8bPeW4 1985: Stomu Yamashta - Sea and Sky - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZGktSXRyH0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZGktSXRyH0 |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 20 2024 at 09:40
| Jared, what exactly did you mean when you said some of those Vangelis albums are too intellectual for you? Are they too complex or too classical sounding or something? |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 20 2024 at 09:52
Have you heard the two in question? I find Beaubourg a struggle to enjoy and IC completely impossible... it's the musical structure of both, which are quite avant-garde, atonal and lacking in a basic melodic line. With IC in particular, it's a challenge to understand how the individual notes are connected in some passages? They are quite unlike any of his other works which, putting the two Soprano-orientated albums aside, are all very accessible?? ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 20 2024 at 09:54
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I like all of them but VANGELIS is the boss, here ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 20 2024 at 10:25
No, I haven't heard them which is why I was asking.
 Thanks. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 20 2024 at 23:20
| Weirdly I love Beauborg even though I generally don't like avant music. I even own it on vinyl. It comes in a gatefold and has some of the most stunning artwork I've ever seen. Invisible Connections is a bit weird but I think it was tailored for the then new compact disc technology. It's insanely quiet but has a charm. The only Vangelis album I don't really like is the one he did for an Oliver Stone film that had Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie in it. Never seen the film and only heard the music once and that was enough. (looked it up and it's called Alexander). It's not that it's bad but it just didn't have anything memorable on it. His last 2 albums Rosetta and Juno To Jupiter are very good though. Worth checking out. |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 21 2024 at 01:39
Interesting. I had vaguely remembered your reviews of both albums, so perplexed by this post I had another look, and it appears you have revised your opinion on both, significantly? Whilst your review of Beaubourg has mysteriously risen from 2 to 4 stars, your 'revised' 3 star IC review reads thus: "I very rarely give any albums 1 star but this deserves it. Vangelis likes to be enigmatic and this is about as enigmatic as you get. It's truly wierd avante garde stuff has nothing to do with music (to me) and one can only wonder why he bothered. Apparently the album was released in Japan under the name 'Meditation' which explains a bit. To fans of progressive rock I suggest you avoid this. And if you do buy it don't say I didn't warn you!!" I'd suggest you revisit it and carry out some judicious editing! ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 21 2024 at 02:28
I could do this with a lot of albums in truth. I gave Direct 5 stars if memory serves me well ansd said it was his greatest album but nowadays it would be 3 stars. I change my mind and opinion on a lot of things. Anyhow here is some very nice Vangelis artwork from my vinyl collection  |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 21 2024 at 02:33
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Hopefully this offers some explanation re Beaubourg Review by https://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=114" rel="nofollow - richardh
PROG REVIEWER https://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=114" rel="nofollow">  If you are being kind you would say this is seriously avante garde cutting edge music.If not you would say that Vangelis had a spare lunchtime when he was bored and so decided to knock this thing up to pass the time.An epic of noodling proportions that goes nowhere,starts nowhere and doesn't really go anywhere in the middle.Very strange but very alluring and atmospheric.You make your own mind up.2 stars.EDIT My opinion of this album has somewhat changed over the course of nearly ten years. Like other 'different' albums that Vangelis has recorded such as Invisible Connections and Mask, this does take time to appreciate. At the time I typed this review I was busy categorising Vangelis albums into what could be considered 'prog' and those which weren't. Indeed this does not conform to the usual Vangelis releases such as China or Spiral. He only uses one synthesiser and much of it is improvised and unstructured. However at least I put the words 'alluring and atmospheric' which is perfect! Much of it works and indeed ultimately you must make your own mind up. Don't expect the usual thing and keep an open mind ( ironic I know given my initial review).4 stars. |
Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: November 21 2024 at 03:17
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Voting for the German school of electronic music as represented by Klaus Schulze |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 22 2024 at 17:45
Direct sounds like pure Vangelis to me. Shades of Albedo 0.39, Heaven and Hell, Opera Sauvage, and Blade Runner nets you Direct. Vangelis was implementing a new "direct" approach to simultaneous composition & recording that was to be the format for his output from that point forward. But then he released The City, a majorly underrated, beautiful record that essentially fuses Soil Festivities and Blade Runner. I can't complain. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |