Do you think I'm a jerk?
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Topic: Do you think I'm a jerk?
Posted By: Hrychu
Subject: Do you think I'm a jerk?
Date Posted: November 14 2024 at 02:34
So, Sean Trane just said this:
Funny that you should mention that "j" word, because a lot of us think the same of you | I don't fully trust his claim that "a lot of us" think that, but hey. We are our own worst critics. So, I'm making an actual public poll. Perhaps I am not the friendliest user here. Perhaps I need to open up a bit more? Maybe you guys would point out what I need to work on in order to become a better person. I don't want to delude myself with selfishness if there is any and I'd really want to see what you guys think how my interactions with this community can be improved.
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: November 14 2024 at 02:36
And no. Don't just vote. A bunch f sole anonymous votes would not help. It would be great if you elaborated.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 14 2024 at 04:17
I won't say that I have sufficient basis to answer your rather serious poll question, as I haven't seen enough of your posts. What I've seen haven't looked that bad to me, even I've also seen some posts which I definitely couldn't approve. Like for instance when you accused jamesbaldwin for wanting to start a flamewar about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, or Israeli-Hamas as you call it. My advice can be, be carefull to keep PA's ethical rules and no personal attacks - keep to the topics.
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: November 14 2024 at 04:28
David_D wrote:
I won't say that I have sufficient basis to answer your rather serious poll question, as I haven't seen enough of your posts. What I've seen haven't looked that bad to me, even I've also seen some posts which I definitely couldn't approve. Like for instance when you accused jamesbaldwin for wanting to start a flamewar about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, or Israeli-Hamas as you call it. My advice can be, be carefull to keep PA's ethical rules and no personal attacks - keep to the topics. | Thank you for being polite, honest and unbiased.
BTW, to everybody who votes in this poll, please make a post which option you voted for, and why.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: November 14 2024 at 04:47
Hrychu wrote:
Do you think I'm a jerk? | Nah, you're fine. But then again I may be a jerk myself. I know there's at least a handful here that do not care for my tone or whatever. I write very impulsively and don't know excactly where I'm going when I start. And I usually post exactly what I feel like in the moment. Maybe that's what you do too? There will always be people who you communicate badly with. That's ok. You can't win them all.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 14 2024 at 06:32
No. You Are What You Is.
David_D wrote:
My advice can be, be carefull to keep PA's ethical rules and no personal attacks - keep to the topics. | Great advice, but some members don't follow these rules and have no consequences.
Who voted yes?
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 14 2024 at 06:37
Just one recent
example (late august in a suggestion thread) in quote. I will not reprint what you said about the PA in general on PE.
Hrychu wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ Let's face facts, you are just an a****le. | Well, sometimes. Aren't we
all? You especially should be able to relate. ;) |
note that "j" is from you (as you brought it up), others use "a".
============== We all have our flaws (moi aussi), but AFA politics is concerned, I recently backed the ban (I was previously for letting them happen for 20y), because it was going directly to insulting (as you just did in the "ignore function" thread).
I won't even vote, because you already know my answer for the last few months , but for years before, just know that you didn't ruffle my feathers.
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: November 14 2024 at 07:09
Just to make things clear, I apologized for that insensitive joke I made in August (the one to which Mike reacted). And if you look at the history, I have not repeated such a mistake ever again since then. B)
Just a proof that you can in fact take what people tell you about your behavior and work on your ego to become a better person.
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: November 14 2024 at 07:21
As for the alleged insult. It was not an insult. I know your English proficiency is poor, Sean, and sometimes you twist the meaning of people's posts in English, according to the state of the English language as it was 15+ years ago. Like, for instance where you misunderstood the term "boomer". So please, bear with me.
My true intention was to point out the rude tone of Sean Trane's post, a very distinctive egotistic style that may be understood as a bad personality trait, in order to make him notice his flaws and consider becoming less rude.
I guess the worst thing that can be done is to continue antagonizing each other. I'd suggest putting aside our differences, and just respectfully disagree.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 14 2024 at 08:48
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
David_D wrote:
My advice can be, be carefull to keep PA's ethical rules and no personal attacks - keep to the topics. | Great advice, but some members don't follow these rules and have no consequences.
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Unfortunately so.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 14 2024 at 08:58
Sean Trane wrote:
Just one recent example (late august in a suggestion thread) in quote. ...................
Hrychu wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ Let's face facts, you are just an a****le. | Well, sometimes. Aren't we
all? You especially should be able to relate. ;) |
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There's no context here, but Mike's post was a heavy personal attack.
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: November 14 2024 at 09:02
Besides, that tension was resolved shortly thereafter, and I don't see a point in digging it out just to get equipped with some more drama fuel.
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: November 14 2024 at 09:05
Also, I love how people are anonymously voting in this poll yet nobody explains their vote or even admit what option they picked in the forum section. A way to completely discard the reason for the poll to exist. xD
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: November 14 2024 at 09:07
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 14 2024 at 09:36
Hrychu wrote:
Just to make things clear, I apologized for that insensitive joke I made in August (the one to which Mike reacted). And if you look at the history, I have not repeated such a mistake ever again since then. B)
Just a proof that you can in fact take what people tell you about your behavior and work on your ego to become a better person. |
Okay, I didn't have a proper look at this post of yours until now, but I still think that Mike could react in a better way instead of just insulting you.
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 14 2024 at 10:21
After what I have read in the home page of your website I personally don't think so, even if for I while I've had this impression. This is not because of the reggaeton, I've found it fun even if I'm not sure that being fun was your intention. There's only one of the things that you have written in that thread that I'd like to discuss with you. but it would cause the thread to be closed, so I'll eventually PM you.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 14 2024 at 10:24
Hrychu wrote:
As for the alleged insult. It was not an insult. I know your English proficiency is poor, Sean, and sometimes you twist the meaning of people's posts in English, according to the state of the English language as it was 15+ years ago. Like, for instance where you misunderstood the term "boomer". So please, bear with me.
My true intention was to point out the rude tone of Sean Trane's post, a very distinctive egotistic style that may be understood as a bad personality trait, in order to make him notice his flaws and consider becoming less rude.
I guess the worst thing that can be done is to continue antagonizing each other. I'd suggest putting aside our differences, and just respectfully disagree. |
My english is certainly no worse than yours. Don't play on words with the two meanings of "jerk". You clearly meant it as an insult and not a sudden uncontrolled movement. It was totally uncalled for on a thread that had been dormant for 6 weeks until someone made an uneeded comment
Sorry, but this has gone well to the point of being rude to you. The accumulation of small incidents (I'd actually forgotten the Boomer incident, thx for reminding me) and the PA bashing on PE, etc... Apologizing everytime doesn't erase what was said. Forgive doesn't mean forget, especially that new incidents keep happening.
For this thread, you didn't need to mention me in the OP, and if you'd abstained, I wouldn't be here chewing the fat with you.
So now, you're calling a truce after you've thrown a final salvo (at least you hope), right? I propose that we end it here now that I've made the score even.
David_D wrote:
Hrychu wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ Let's face facts, you are just an a****le. | Well, sometimes. Aren't we
all? You especially should be able to relate. ;) |
There's no context here, but Mike's post was a heavy personal attack. |
Hrychu
managed to change the offensive picture of the Swedish band A being
thrown into the garbage (on his own account, it was a racist drawing)
and I said it was thoughless of him (as usual) and Mike agreed and they took onto each
other. It's that much weirder that he managed that the original picture I
quoted has also changed.
Repeated small incidents make bigger ones out of accumulation.It's rather fine you (Hrychu) question yourself, though (if that's your real intent, but let me wonder), but you didn't need to carry it out in public, involving me.
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: November 14 2024 at 10:38
This is not because of the reggaeton, I've found it fun even if I'm not sure that being fun was your intention. | Haha. We're good. The reggaeton bit was a silly friendly joke. :)
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 14 2024 at 10:52
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: November 14 2024 at 18:01
The very idea someone would make a thread like this is annoying as hell. So, yes, you are a jerk. And by jerk, I adhere to the OED derogatory definition: An offensive term for someone who is foolish or unpleasant.
And now, I certainly hope a mod passes by and closes this idiotic bit of nonsense.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 15 2024 at 08:42
^ While I think that this is exactly some of the kind which doesn't make the climate better around here.
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: November 15 2024 at 11:17
I tried my best to tally up the votes so far.
voted "yes": Sean Trane (presumably) The Dark Elf
voted "no": Saperlipopette! Easy Money octopus-4
didn't vote: David_D AFlowerKingCrimson
So, it seems we've got 5 (or 6) "yes" and votes 3 "no" votes that bear absolutely no function other than pure poll filler.
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Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: November 15 2024 at 12:29
I do think that you often are a lot more rude than what the situation calls for, but I honestly didn't have a real problem with you until you decided that it was a good idea to berate people for not engaging sufficiently with this self-indulgent sobfest of a thread
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: November 15 2024 at 13:04
Mirakaze wrote:
I do think that you often are a lot more rude than what the situation calls for, but I honestly didn't have a real problem with you until you decided that it was a good idea to berate people for not engaging sufficiently with this self-indulgent sobfest of a thread | If my silly vent thread needs any replies at this point, your straight-to-the-point honesty is probably the only kind of posting that really does it justice. <3
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: November 15 2024 at 15:13
I haven't voted on this, but I will tell you, in a nutshell, the issue you have is about boundaries, and knowing when you have crossed them....I am not a registered therapist, so I will not elaborate further, other than that if you have annoyed someone, you need to be aware of when that has occurred, and why, and learn from it....
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 16 2024 at 03:34
Anyway, I think that it's best to move on from this thread.
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: November 16 2024 at 07:40
can somebody lock it please?
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Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: November 16 2024 at 12:21
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Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: November 16 2024 at 13:00
I've no idea who you are, but I've just returned solely to say you are a tit. Back in 2027
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 16 2024 at 22:55
I don't know really. Internet forums like these can encourage more abrasive interaction but no one is going to die from an insult. However it should be a comfortable place to post for everyone and forum guidelines need to adhered to otherwie it would just turn into a 'zoo'. Personally I get more annoyed with spam type posting and people who have an agenda. You don't seem to have this going on so I voted ''No''.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 17 2024 at 04:09
We generally view those on the other side of an argument as jerks. It's our binary nature. Occasionally, our views are correct.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 17 2024 at 05:37
Nope, not at all. I like you a lot more since you changed your annoying fishy avatar.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 17 2024 at 08:26
This is something I would have asked a long time ago back when I cared way more about what people thought of me than I do now. Personally, I've been called pretty much every name in the book as have a lot of us. Asking if people think you are a jerk or not is a step in the right direction as far as self improvement goes (something I don't see at all from some of the other users on here). However, at the same time it can be viewed as attention seeking and even antagonizing. If you don't think you are a jerk than what does it matter? And if you do then try to do something about it. Go to a therapist or do a search online on how to be a better person. Jerks are typically (imo) very selfish people so strive to be more understanding and less selfish.
So anyway, no I didn't vote but my opinion is similar to David's in that I don't know you (or your posts) well enough to make an informed decision regarding your stature as a jerk. Good luck though.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: November 17 2024 at 08:27
I don't think genuine jerks would be as concerned about what others think.
-And while I'm at it, I still think PA-members being unable to stay away from threads that are not for them, or to their distaste are causing most of the unnecessary friction here.
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