Rush Clock Work Angles
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Topic: Rush Clock Work Angles
Posted By: number1rushfan
Subject: Rush Clock Work Angles
Date Posted: August 23 2024 at 10:27
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Just made my account! So happy to see a website like this in 2024! Just wanted to say I've always thought Clock Work Angles is the best Rush album, what do you guys think?
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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: August 23 2024 at 12:08
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Welcome to the club! Hope it's a good ride. Totally dig Clockwork Angels - one of my favorite Rush albums. They really went out on a high note. The books are excellent, too ;-) ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: August 23 2024 at 15:17
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I’ve tried several times to appreciate Clockwork Angels, but have given up. Same with Power Windows. It’s the late 70s/very early 80s period that works for me…. ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: August 23 2024 at 16:23
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I can tell that I don't like any other Rush album better.  ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 23 2024 at 17:30
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My personal #1 is Grace Under Pressure. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: August 23 2024 at 18:49
I couldn't agree more.
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essexboyinwales wrote:Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 23 2024 at 19:53
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Welcome to PA. This forum and site is pretty old school. Speaking of old school, Hemispheres is the album by Rush that has meant the most to me. That said, I would not object to thinking of Clockwork Angels as Rush's best album since the 80s. Rush did have a long period of clunkers for my tastes, but then I haven't been much of a Rush fan since the 80s. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 23 2024 at 23:03
| I initially disliked them when I heard All The Worlds A Stage then I liked them about the time of Exit Stage Left (still have the original vinyl) then got bored with them around Power Windows then came back when they dropped the synths (Roll The Bones). Eventually stuck with them. Despite being the most overrated prog band in history (according to Andy Edwards) I generally regard them as one of the innovators of the genre. BTW I like Snakes and Arrows more than Clockwork Angels but there are no real stinkers. |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: August 24 2024 at 02:07
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Rush is one of my favorite bands. I've been listening to them since 1974. "Clockwork Angels" is not my favorite Rush album but it is one of the best final albums by a band ever. And that is saying a lot for a band that has 19 studio releases. Welcome to the forums. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: August 24 2024 at 03:15
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The best period in the career of Rush is from A Farewell to Kings to Signals. I abandoned Rush after the disappointing Presto and the deception that is Roll the Bones. However, Clockwork Angels was a return to form. ------------- 
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: August 24 2024 at 07:48
Spot On ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: August 26 2024 at 12:42
Welcome to PA.......Maybe this would fit better under the Rush Appreciation thread. Also your spelling is a bit off on the topic title  . It's Clockwork Angels........Regardless I think the final album by my fav all time band is excellent! There are some excellent songs on it as well production. Also the final song on their final album is about as appropriate as can have ever been planned.It's not my fav album by Rush but I listen to it often and is easily in my top 10. -------------   
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 26 2024 at 16:25
| Their best album since Counterparts. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 26 2024 at 19:06
| I wouldn't say it's their best album, but it was certainly a very strong album to finish their career. Not every band or artist gets to have such a strong last album. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 26 2024 at 19:25
Yep. It's better than Gentle Giant's Civilian although maybe that's not saying a whole lot. I'd say it's better than VDGG's Do Not Disturb (if that is indeed their last) also although again not saying a whole lot.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: August 26 2024 at 20:17
| ^I think Civilian was a very good album. Better than 95% of any prog band or artist's final release. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 26 2024 at 22:42
| Do Not Disturb is an excellent album imo. I only like Godbluff and Pawn Hearts more. VDGG were kind of a samey sounding band most of the time although i like them. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: August 27 2024 at 05:47
Every time I see this thread title, I think:
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 27 2024 at 05:51
you are not the only one.
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Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: August 27 2024 at 06:11
Given the error, his claim of Number1Rushfan must be taken with a grain of salt. Of course, I kid. I kid because I love. Always nice to have another Rush fan here ------------- We all dwell in an amber subdomain, amber subdomain, amber subdomain. My face IS a maserati |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 27 2024 at 15:07
I still like all these albums just not as much as Clockwork Angels. I never even heard ELP's In the Hot Seat but from what I understand it seems like that's probably one of the worst (if not the worst) final albums by a major prog band.
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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: August 27 2024 at 17:01
| Never listened to Clock Work Angles |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 27 2024 at 19:14
You need to approach it from the right angle.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 27 2024 at 19:36
yep that and Calling All Stations. Both could be used as some evil form of torture
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 27 2024 at 21:41
To be honest I am not sure I understand all the hatred for Calling All Stations. If it wasn't put out by Genesis I doubt everyone would be so hard on it. I'm not saying it's one of their best and it might even be their worst but I guess I just don't feel it's as awful as others think it is.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 28 2024 at 07:58
Well I suppose nothing can really be that bad in truth if it's made by actual musicians especially of the calibre of those on these albums. Both albums represent an artistic low for the respective band and are bankrupt of any decent ideas (I could say 'imo' but hardly anyone is likely to challenge). They are not badly played or badly produced though.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 28 2024 at 08:32
I've never heard of the Clock Work Angles album, although I'm a relative latecomer to the music of Rush, having only become a fan since joining ProgArchives. Going off at a tangent, these are the eight Rush albums I've managed to acquire on CD so far, with Hemispheres just added yesterday.  1976: Rush - All the World's a Stage - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l-da6GMxte-wJ0DAVwdi-g57jGieFwEz8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l-da6GMxte-wJ0DAVwdi-g57jGieFwEz8 1978: Rush - Hemispheres - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kELgPyKgsiZsDu5flHoFButD1XFxgc2NI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kELgPyKgsiZsDu5flHoFButD1XFxgc2NI 1980: Rush - Permanent Waves - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_npYplEYAmBcund-gpc3v65mDrsZ3T2KPg" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_npYplEYAmBcund-gpc3v65mDrsZ3T2KPg 1982: Rush - Signals - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nYHlxr0oUIx4SetgbtCY8jFTPv6Rh0p_o" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nYHlxr0oUIx4SetgbtCY8jFTPv6Rh0p_o  1984: Rush - Grace Under Pressure - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kV4aoLdWbaONKNhQG-so_hd0haUQTyi18" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kV4aoLdWbaONKNhQG-so_hd0haUQTyi18 1989: Rush - Presto - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kT76vxuvzQ6cuq3QeylCLVcCjl5QASiGc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kT76vxuvzQ6cuq3QeylCLVcCjl5QASiGc 1993: Rush - Counterparts - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kbCXmgFiIP-O_90qV9bzKycSvQImwpuhw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kbCXmgFiIP-O_90qV9bzKycSvQImwpuhw 2010: Rush - Time Stand Still: The Collection |
Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: August 29 2024 at 01:32
------------- Nothing can last there are no second chances. Never give a day away. Always live for today. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 09 2024 at 18:11
I haven't heard In the Hot Seat, but I didn't find Calling all Stations particularly bad. I didn't find it particularly good either, but it does have a pair of songs I enjoy... overall, I guess it's not even their worst album. |
Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: September 28 2024 at 09:30
Don't be obtuse ------------- We all dwell in an amber subdomain, amber subdomain, amber subdomain. My face IS a maserati |
Posted By: HarryT
Date Posted: November 06 2024 at 06:01
| I never thought much of Clockwork Angles but I think even less of Clockwork Angels. When I saw the band in 2013 and they devoted half the show to this album I almost walked out. By a good way, their worst ever effort. |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: November 06 2024 at 08:34
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I tried very hard to like this album, as so many had raved about it, but couldn’t get on with it at all…. Oh FFS, how do you delete a post when you realise you’ve already posted and said the same thing🤔😩🤣 ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 06 2024 at 10:28
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I also prefer the late 70's and early 80's material but interestingly the album received 1226 rating votes and garnered 3.93 stars which is better than the previous 9 lps . So apparently quite a few Rush fans liked it. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: November 06 2024 at 15:15
Oh please, it's light years better than Roll The Bones, just to name one. ------------- We all dwell in an amber subdomain, amber subdomain, amber subdomain. My face IS a maserati |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: November 09 2024 at 10:14
Pretty much all bands will create their setlist around the most recent album, so making it sound like you were surprised or disappointed carries no weight........Regardless if you like the album or not. -------------
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Posted By: Deadwing
Date Posted: November 11 2024 at 05:01
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Love it, Rush last 3 efforts honestly are my favourites from them, each one with its own distinctivity. My only criticism is that they are loud as f**k, but the songs are fantastic and carry a lot of emotion, the song-writing and arrangements are very well elaborated.
I also love Signals, Power Windows and Counterparts albums as well. The rest, after the classic period, ranges from good to subpar though (Hold your fire). |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 11 2024 at 05:06
Snakes and Arrows is less interesting than both Clockwork Angels and Roll the Bones IMO.
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 11 2024 at 05:22
Agreed completely..... my list of poorest Rush albums would start as follows: 1) Vapor Trails 2) Snakes & Arrows 3) Rush 4) Roll The Bones and so on.... till we eventually reach Permanent Waves...  ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 11 2024 at 11:08
| Vapor Trails and Snakes and Arrows are my two least favorite. RTB I actually quite like and imo it's almost as good (or maybe even as good) as TFE and Presto. |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 11 2024 at 12:36
that's quite interesting; I really thought I was about the only one who felt that way... I'll be honest, I'd actually given up on Rush after those two and didn't actually try CA until it had been out for 2 years, when someone I met at work lent it me... ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: November 11 2024 at 13:01
Outside Rush's first album, which I give them a pass as it's a band trying to find its footing, Hold Your Fire was the first album where I went "Oh No." Beginning with that album Rush became a hit and miss band with me. I was thinking is this Rush's Invisible Touch moment. Now, they did somewhat better than Genesis going forward, but they were no longer the band that could do no wrong. Yes had that moment with Big Generator. With that release, they would be a hit and miss band going forward for me. I bought both Hold Your Fire and Big Generator within a month of each other. Both albums were released in September of 1987. To be let down by Yes and Rush within a month was quite disappointing. |
Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: November 11 2024 at 13:16
I'm still surprised at the contempt Hold Your Fire receives. It's like a longer, hazier version of Power Windows, and almost no one complains about that album. If Rush has an "Invisible Touch moment", it's Presto. I remember September 1987 very well when those albums were released. A Momentary Lapse of Reason also came out at the same time, and also disappointed a lot of listeners.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 11 2024 at 13:21
HYF is much less interesting than Power windows. Also Presto is more interesting and fun than Invisible Touch (to put it kindly). For me Presto was a return to form. I enjoy it more than HYF.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 11 2024 at 13:47
There's nothing to complain about. Power Windows opens with a huge one-two punch and Side B is positively sublime. "Middletown Dreams" is enough to make a grown man weep. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: November 11 2024 at 14:32
I have always grouped Signals, Grace Under Pressure and Power Windows together. A merger of Prog and New Wave that worked quite well with the stylistic direction Rush was taking. Hold Your Fire was nothing more than a New Wave, Pop-Rock album that could have been released by the band Til Tuesday. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 11 2024 at 14:39
Same, here. Some of the decade's finest rock, no debate.
Sorry, that's a bit unfair. "Open Secrets," "Turn the Page" and "Lock and Key" (not to mention "Force Ten") are way too "Rush" for a band like TT to concoct. But I understand the sentiment. Still, HYF is practically A Farewell to Kings compared to Roll the Bones. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 11 2024 at 16:22
Well, it kind of makes me weep because for a long time growing up I lived in a town (or nearby) called Middletown. So it's sentimental to me for that reason alone.
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Posted By: Deadwing
Date Posted: November 12 2024 at 05:03
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Hold Your Fire is way too romantic too me lol It's crazy because Power Windows is among my favourites, and they have some sort of similar "style", but while I love the production of PW, I do really hate how to drums sound in HYF. A lot of the melodies also don't stick in my head either. Honestly HYF to me is much more closer to Presto than PW, despite HYF still having lots of synths and very 80's drums.
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Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: November 13 2024 at 01:44
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In answer to OP - I don't think this is their best work as it draws upon their best material from the late 70s/early 80s for inspiration, but among the legacy prog bands it is one of the best final albums, very strong and consistent, supreme way to say goodbye. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 13 2024 at 20:00
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I always beware that word 'consistent'. Subtext 'no inspiration and the band is done'.
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