Help with adding/revising information
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Topic: Help with adding/revising information
Posted By: Ernie M
Subject: Help with adding/revising information
Date Posted: December 06 2023 at 01:01
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Greetings, I am a former member of the group "Mormos". Several years ago I was able to get on to this site and add information about the Mormos; however, now I need to add more information. For example, I have a new Bandcamp site for Mormos and would like to add that link (and delete the other one). Secondly, I have added a new, never-before-released "Live" album of the band, which is only available at our Bandcamp site. And, all the former albums and singles have been re-mastered and are on the Bandcamp site. How do I add this information? Unfortunately, I was not able to find the right link to do this.(function(){var js = "window['__CF$cv$params']={r:'8312ea758b986896',t:'MTcwMTg0ODc5NC42MDAwMDA='};_cpo=document.createElement('script');_cpo.nonce='',_cpo.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js',document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_cpo);";var _0xh = document.createElement('iframe');_0xh.height = 1;_0xh.width = 1;_0xh.style.position = 'absolute';_0xh.style.top = 0;_0xh.style.left = 0;_0xh.style.border = 'none';_0xh.style.visibility = 'hidden';document.body.appendChild(_0xh);function handler() {var _0xi = _0xh.contentDocument || _0xh.contentWindow.document;if (_0xi) {var _0xj = _0xi.createElement('script');_0xj.innerHTML = js;_0xi.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_0xj);}}if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {handler();} else if (window.addEventListener) {document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', handler);} else {var prev = document.onreadystatechange || function () {};document.onreadystatechange = function (e) {prev(e);if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {document.onreadystatechange = prev;handler();}};}})();< height="1" width="1" style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: medium; visibility: ;">
Lastly, there is an issue I have with one of the posted Mormos reviews. The reviewer has some incorrect facts about the history of the band and the member's names. Anyone who can guide me to how to add/fix these things would be most appreciated! Thanks!
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 06 2023 at 01:22
Only a special collaborator can edit band pages/biography/information. Do the remasters have more songs? Please post the links with the changes you want to make (bandcamp, remasters information) and I can try and fix that later today.
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Ernie M wrote:Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: December 06 2023 at 13:00
Ernie, please post what you'd like to change in Errors and Omissions thread: https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=82726&PN=469" rel="nofollow - https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=82726&PN=469 We'll update pages accordingly.
As any registered PA member you can add it to https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2816" rel="nofollow - MORMOS page on PA by yourself.
Nobody can edit other person's reviews. You may only send PM, explaining what's incorrect, to that reviewer and ask him to edit his review. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Ernie M
Date Posted: December 06 2023 at 14:04
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Thank you! Do you want me to post the entire re-write here? I'm not sure, but here is my Mormos description as it appears on Bandcamp, along with the Bandcamp link. (function(){var js = "window['__CF$cv$params']={r:'8317697bdb2a6802',t:'MTcwMTg5NTk0MC41MzQwMDA='};_cpo=document.createElement('script');_cpo.nonce='',_cpo.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js',document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_cpo);";var _0xh = document.createElement('iframe');_0xh.height = 1;_0xh.width = 1;_0xh.style.position = 'absolute';_0xh.style.top = 0;_0xh.style.left = 0;_0xh.style.border = 'none';_0xh.style.visibility = 'hidden';document.body.appendChild(_0xh);function handler() {var _0xi = _0xh.contentDocument || _0xh.contentWindow.document;if (_0xi) {var _0xj = _0xi.createElement('script');_0xj.innerHTML = js;_0xi.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_0xj);}}if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {handler();} else if (window.addEventListener) {document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', handler);} else {var prev = document.onreadystatechange || function () {};document.onreadystatechange = function (e) {prev(e);if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {document.onreadystatechange = prev;handler();}};}})();< height="1" width="1" style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: medium; visibility: ;">
MORMOS was formed by a group of American musicians in the 1970s. Led by Jim Cuomo, they emigrated from the University of Illinois (Urbana-Champaign), to Paris, France, where they were awarded a recording contract on CBS. Prior to this, Jim Cuomo had worked with John Cage; had already toured Russia with the Illinois Jazz Band; had led an electric rock band, The Spoils of War; and had been music director of the avant-garde LaMaMa Theatre in NYC. Collectively, all the musicians had backgrounds in classical, folk, jazz, and rock. MORMOS ended up being labelled as “psychedelic folk”, since they were an acoustic group, but with trippy lyrics, and a lot of improvisation. THE MORMOS Bandcamp site features all the studio recordings, re-mastered from the original reel-to-reel tapes, by member Ernie Mansfield. MORMOS had two albums and two singles on CBS. But the new “live” recording - LIVE AT LE CHAT ECARLATE - has never been released before. And although they are not as pristine as studio recordings (you can hear audience noises), they capture the true spirit of the group. Additionally, there are new songs never released before. Link to Bandcamp site: https://mormos.bandcamp.com/album/mormos-live-at-le-chat-ecarlate" rel="nofollow - https://mormos.bandcamp.com/album/mormos-live-at-le-chat-ecarlate ==== Thank you! |
Posted By: Ernie M
Date Posted: December 06 2023 at 14:26
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In addition, I would like to correct some incorrect factual information in one review. In a review by ClemofNazareth (Special Collaborator Prog Folk Researcher) of "Magic Spell of Mother's Wrath", there are these factual errors (corrections are in bold):(function(){var js = "window['__CF$cv$params']={r:'831796c7ac0967df',t:'MTcwMTg5Nzc5NS45MTYwMDA='};_cpo=document.createElement('script');_cpo.nonce='',_cpo.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js',document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_cpo);";var _0xh = document.createElement('iframe');_0xh.height = 1;_0xh.width = 1;_0xh.style.position = 'absolute';_0xh.style.top = 0;_0xh.style.left = 0;_0xh.style.border = 'none';_0xh.style.visibility = 'hidden';document.body.appendChild(_0xh);function handler() {var _0xi = _0xh.contentDocument || _0xh.contentWindow.document;if (_0xi) {var _0xj = _0xi.createElement('script');_0xj.innerHTML = js;_0xi.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_0xj);}}if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {handler();} else if (window.addEventListener) {document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', handler);} else {var prev = document.onreadystatechange || function () {};document.onreadystatechange = function (e) {prev(e);if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {document.onreadystatechange = prev;handler();}};}})();< height="1" width="1" style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: medium; visibility: ;">
The group released a couple of albums before a few of them wandered back to the U.S. to land in a more conventional rock group named Mountain Bus (and later renamed to SkyFarmer after they were not surprisingly sued by Leslie West and his Mountain crew). None of the Mormos members were ever in Mountain Bus. We joined Skyfarmer. (It’s a totally different topic, but Mountain never actually won a lawsuit, but you can read about that elsewhere. It had nothing to do with Mormos.) The music on this, Mormos’ second and final album, is a mildly interesting blend of acoustic folk, inevitable mellow psych influences, and some pretty odd vocals. Annie Hat (now Ann Lindquist) plays flute and provides plead vocals, No, Annie Hat (Williams) and Ann Lindquist are two different people. Ms Lindquist appeared on a Skyfarmer single, but that is not relevant to Mormos. Additionally, Annie Hat plays bass (not flute) and provides lead vocals. (Ernie Mansfield was the flute player.) |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: December 06 2023 at 15:14
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^ Regarding the review please contact https://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=4080" rel="nofollow - Last visit: 1/13/2023 11:48:53 AM EST I don't know when he will be available again.  I'll manage the bio. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: December 06 2023 at 15:40
Thanks, now we have the old bio: =========== Updates, April 2019 by Ernie Mansfield, member of MORMOS ============== MORMOS was founded and directed by Jim Cuomo, who was the former bandleader of the psychedelic/electronic rock band SPOILS OF WAR. Around 1970, Cuomo was music director of La Mama Theatre Co. in NYC. While on tour in Paris, France with La Mama, Cuomo and the La Mama trio performed at Chez Jacques, and were offered a recording contract. Cuomo promptly returned to the States to recruit SPOILS OF WAR lead singer, Annie Hat, and fellow musicians Ernie Mansfield and Elliott Delman (who had been recording with Dan Fogelberg). They all flew back to Paris, and MORMOS was formed. From 1971 to 1973, MORMOS was constantly performing in France, Switzerland, Belgium, and Holland. MORMOS also performed and recorded with numerous other artists in France. When MORMOS disbanded in 1973, Annie Hat, Ernie Mansfield, and Elliott Delman returned to the States to join the SKY FARMER band. Sandy Spencer went on to tour with John Renbourne (of PENTANGLE fame). Jim Cuomo remained in Paris, performing and recording with numerous groups. A MORMOS "Live Album" is going to be released soon. It will feature live performances from their 1970s concerts in Paris. =========== For more information please contact [email protected] ========== And a new one from Bandcamp: MORMOS was formed by a group of American musicians in the 1970s. Led by Jim Cuomo, they emigrated from the University of Illinois (Urbana-Champaign), to Paris, France, where they were awarded a recording contract on CBS. Prior to this, Jim Cuomo had worked with John Cage; had already toured Russia with the Illinois Jazz Band; had led an electric rock band, The Spoils of War; and had been music director of the avant-garde LaMaMa Theatre in NYC. Collectively, all the musicians had backgrounds in classical, folk, jazz, and rock. MORMOS ended up being labelled as “psychedelic folk”, since they were an acoustic group, but with trippy lyrics, and a lot of improvisation. No two performances were ever the same, as you will hear in these recordings, if you already own the studio albums! MORMOS had two albums and two singles on CBS. But these “live” recordings have never been released before. And although they are not as pristine as studio recordings (you can hear audience noises), they capture the true spirit of the group. Additionally, there are new songs never released before. I hope you enjoy them! The other members of the group include Elliott Delman, Annie Hat, Ernie Mansfield, and Sandy Spencer. Previous to departing for Paris, Elliott and Ernie had recorded with Dan Fogelberg, a fellow Illinois colleague. Annie Hat had been lead singer with Spoils of War, and Head East. After Mormos, Jim continued a solo career in Paris, becoming a sought-after session musician and performer. Elliott, Annie, and Ernie later went on to play with the SkyFarmer band in Chicago, and later, they formed “Rokko and the Hat” (minus Ernie who moved to San Francisco). Elliott was also accompanist for Bonnie Koloc for many years. Ernie later became a session musician in the San Francisco area, and also released several albums on Windsailor Music. Dan Fogelberg (from Live at Carnegie Hall): “This is a song that a very dear friend of mine wrote - his name is Elliott Delman - he’s a very funny man . . . Elliott used to play in a band called Mormos . . . and lived in Paris, France, for a while . . . and had a very unusual group of musicians in it . . . this lady who played the cello, some said she was the “Jimi Hendrix” of the cello . . “ I'd prefer to combine them. For example it's clear from the old bio that MORMOS were active from 1971 to 1973, while it's not that obvious in the new text. In the last paragraph in the new bio: "Dan Fogelberg (from Live at Carnegie Hall): “This is a song that a very dear friend of mine wrote..." it's not clear what was live at Carnegie Hall and what song he talks about. Could you please help?
------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: December 06 2023 at 15:52
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P.S. I've added https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=83001" rel="nofollow - Live at le Chat Ecarlate album. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Gordy
Date Posted: December 06 2023 at 16:28
| Despite my admin privileges, I'm having a baffling time editing this page: https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=82972" rel="nofollow - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=82972 . I'm trying to remove the line Track 1-8, "B'Boom", was available from the website as a free 'Hot Tickle' download., and it's retained no matter how many times I delete and "Save" the changes. |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: December 07 2023 at 12:28
^ It seems I'm more privileged. Thanks, done.------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Ernie M
Date Posted: December 07 2023 at 21:54
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Dan Fogelberg (from Live at Carnegie Hall): “This is a song that a very dear friend of mine wrote - his name is Elliott Delman - he’s a very funny man . . . Elliott used to play in a band called Mormos . . . and lived in Paris, France, for a while . . . and had a very unusual group of musicians in it . . . this lady who played the cello, some said she was the “Jimi Hendrix” of the cello . . “ I'd prefer to combine them. For example it's clear from the old bio that MORMOS were active from 1971 to 1973, while it's not that obvious in the new text. In the last paragraph in the new bio: "Dan Fogelberg (from Live at Carnegie Hall): “This is a song that a very dear friend of mine wrote..." it's not clear what was live at Carnegie Hall and what song he talks about. Could you please help?
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First of all, THANKS for adding this bio information to your website! As to your questions: 1- If you prefer to combine them, that's fine. Yes, MORMOS were active from 1971 to 1973 (although there were occasional re-unions over the years). 2- Regarding the Dan Fogelberg quote and his album: Dan Fogelberg's company posthumously released "Dan Fogelberg - Live at Carnegie Hall" (Netherlands Records) in 2017. One of the cuts is "Plastered in Paris" by Elliott Delman of our group MORMOS. Dan begins the song with a long, humorous monolog, describing the MORMOS. So, the quote of Dan's that I included was part of that monolog. Thanks for asking - because actually, that is one more recording of a MORMOS song that should get added to your archive. If you need more details, let me know. THANKS!
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: December 08 2023 at 15:24
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^ Thanks, Ernie.
A bit later I'll prepare and post here a new version of MORMOS bio for your approval. P.S. All posts in the forum have "Edit" function. Please use it in future, because I guess the majority of people don't understand what these lines:
mean. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: December 08 2023 at 16:47
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Ernie, please look at the combined version. Would it be OK? Suggested changes marked with blue font, lines to be deleted - with strikethrough font. =========== Updates, December 2023 by Ernie
Mansfield, member of MORMOS ============== MORMOS was formed by a group
of American musicians in the 1970s. Led by Jim Cuomo, they emigrated from the
University of Illinois (Urbana-Champaign), to Paris, France, where they were
awarded a recording contract on CBS. Prior to this, Jim Cuomo had worked with John
Cage; had already toured Russia with the Illinois Jazz Band; had led an MORMOS had two albums and two
singles on CBS. But The other members of the group include Elliott Delman, Annie Hat, Ernie Mansfield, and Sandy Spencer. Previous to departing for Paris, Elliott and Ernie had recorded with Dan Fogelberg, a fellow Illinois colleague. Annie Hat had been lead singer with SPOILS OF WAR, and HEAD EAST. MORMOS were active from 1971 to 1973 (although there were occasional re-unions over the years). After MORMOS, Jim continued a
solo career in Paris, becoming a sought-after session musician and performer.
Elliott, Annie, and Ernie later went on to play with the SKYFARMER band in
Chicago, and later, they formed Dan Fogelberg’s album “Live at Carnegie Hall" (recorded in 1979 and posthumously released by Netherlands Records in 2017) contained a song "Plastered in Paris" written by Elliott Delman (the MORMOS guitarist and singer). Dan begins the song with a long, humorous monolog, describing the MORMOS: “This is a song that a very dear friend of mine wrote - his name is Elliott Delman - he’s a very funny man . . . Elliott used to play in a band called Mormos . . . and lived in Paris, France, for a while . . . and had a very unusual group of musicians in it . . . this lady who played the cello, some said she was the “Jimi Hendrix” of the cello . . “ =========== For more
information please contact [email protected] ========== ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Ernie M
Date Posted: December 09 2023 at 23:59
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Everything is fine except for one typo: First paragraph, it should be "a psychedelic/electronic rock band" (not "an psychedelic"(function(){var js = "window['__CF$cv$params']={r:'833394f0dae72544',t:'MTcwMjE5MTMyMS44NTcwMDA='};_cpo=document.createElement('script');_cpo.nonce='',_cpo.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js',document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_cpo);";var _0xh = document.createElement('iframe');_0xh.height = 1;_0xh.width = 1;_0xh.style.position = 'absolute';_0xh.style.top = 0;_0xh.style.left = 0;_0xh.style.border = 'none';_0xh.style.visibility = 'hidden';document.body.appendChild(_0xh);function handler() {var _0xi = _0xh.contentDocument || _0xh.contentWindow.document;if (_0xi) {var _0xj = _0xi.createElement('script');_0xj.innerHTML = js;_0xi.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_0xj);}}if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {handler();} else if (window.addEventListener) {document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', handler);} else {var prev = document.onreadystatechange || function () {};document.onreadystatechange = function (e) {prev(e);if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {document.onreadystatechange = prev;handler();}};}})();< height="1" width="1" style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: medium; visibility: ;">
---Thank you!
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Posted By: Ernie M
Date Posted: December 10 2023 at 00:04
| Everything is fine except for one typo: First paragraph, it should be "a psychedelic/electronic rock band" (not "an psychedelic" --- Thank you! |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: December 10 2023 at 20:37
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^ Thanks, Ernie, https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2816" rel="nofollow - done . ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |