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Topic: Your favourite New Wave albums?Posted By: David_D
Subject: Your favourite New Wave albums?
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 02:18
Hereby a new wave of New Wave, as there already has been much talk about "New Wave" lately; but I think,
it's nice with a possibility to list ones own fave albums, so here it is. My understanding and definition of this genre
is much like the one of RYM's, except from not including New Romantics.
I can't say, it's one of my favourite genres, but I like more or less some albums, a couple even much (the Polish ones),
and they are:
The Police (UK) - Regatta de Blanc (1979)
Elvis Costello & The Atractions (UK) - Armed Forces (1979)
The Clash (UK) - London Calling(1979)
Ian Dury & The Blockheads (UK) - Laughter(1980)
Hazel O'Connor (UK) - Breaking Glass (1980)
Kliche (DK) - Okay Okay Boys (1982)
Lady Pank (PL) - Lady Pank(1983)
Gnags (DK) - X (1983)
Maanam (PL) - Nocny Patrol(1984)
Which are your favourites? And enjoy it!
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Replies: Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 02:42
I'll have to get back to you when I've finally wrapped up my series of New Wave polls at the end of the 1980's, but I can tell you that Blondie and the Pretenders will both feature in my list, as well as some New Romantic and Synth Pop favourites. My New Wave list definitely won't include any Punk Rock though, but I'm sure you knew that already.
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 02:52
I'll admit I use I use New Wave / Post-Punk as the genre and have little to no idea where one is supposed to draw the genre line. Here's ten favorites in that neighbourhood:
David Bowie - Lodger (1979)
Eurythmics - In the Garden (1981) New Order - Movement (1981) The Chameleons - Script Of The Bridge (1983) Siouxsie and The Banshees - Juju (1981) Lene Lovich - Stateless (1978) Modern English - After the Snow (1982) David Bowie - Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps) (1980) Gary Numan - The Pleasure Principle (1979) The Monochrome Set - Love Zombies (1980)
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 03:02
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
I'll have to get back to you when I've finally wrapped up my series of New Wave polls at the end of the 1980's, but I can tell you that Blondie and the Pretenders will both feature in my list, as well as some New Romantic and Synth Pop favourites. My New Wave list definitely won't include any Punk Rock though, but I'm sure you knew that already.
Great, and I'm glad of not to include any Punk, as I see it to be mostly a very different genre from New Wave.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 03:10
Saperlipopette! wrote:
Siouxsie and The Banshees - Juju (1981)
I would definitely include this one in my own list if I defined it as New Wave, but I see it more as Gothic Rock / Post-Punk.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 03:19
The whole "new wave" is so confusing to begin with, it's what music came out in the aftermath of 70s punk and whatever new bands & artists that came out in the late 70s and early 80s, such as post punk (which is the father of gothic-rock I guess), synth-pop, power-pop, whatever Duran Duran is classified as , and so on...
Beyond mid 80s, I don't think we can talk about new wave though...
So yeah, it's all confusing with this genre.
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 03:19
David_D wrote:
Saperlipopette! wrote:
Siouxsie and The Banshees - Juju (1981)
I would definitely include this one in my own list if I defined it as New Wave, but I see it more as Gothic Rock / Post-Punk.
Yes, I was uncertain whether to include both that one and several others. But I've seen them labeled New Wave many times, along with Post-Punk and Gothic Rock of course. I mean it's basically the same kind of music, but darker. Same goes for (early) The Cure. Whom I also considered, but left out. The way I see it the music by most of these slightly alternative groups played back then, fit in several places.
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 03:58
So how would you define New Wave, David? I find it hard to think about this because many of my favourites belong in the post punk category and we had a punk list thread pretty recently that then included post punk if I'm not mistaken. On the other hand how poppy can it get? Nik Kershaw?
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 04:12
I'm too lazy to make lists, so I'm glad Paul does that for me - I'll point out my favourites in his threads.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 04:13
Saperlipopette! wrote:
I'll admit I use New Wave / Post-Punk as the genre and have little to no idea where one is supposed to draw the genre line.
It can certainly be difficult for me too to draw the exact line between these two genres, and some albums I might also label with both.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 04:20
Lewian wrote:
So how would you define New Wave, David? I find it hard to think about this because many of my favourites belong in the post punk category and we had a punk list thread pretty recently that then included post punk if I'm not mistaken. On the other hand how poppy can it get? Nik Kershaw?
All I can say is, I agree much with RYM's definition ( https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/new-wave/" rel="nofollow - https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/new-wave/ ) minus New Romantics, and their labeling in general, and quite exactly, I can only tell for albums I know well.
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 04:21
Always though that New Wave was not punk, but with synthesizers. I may be wrong.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 04:23
Cristi wrote:
The whole "new wave" is so confusing to begin with, it's what music came out in the aftermath of 70s punk and whatever new bands & artists that came out in the late 70s and early 80s, from singer-songwriters to synth-pop, post punk (which is the father of gothic-rock i guess), power-pop, whatever Duran Duran is classified as , and so on...
Beyond mid 80s, I don't think we can talk about new wave though...
So yeah, it's all confusing with this genre.
Yeah, it's +/- my understanding of New Wave
minis the singer/songwriter stuff
In there I'd include Killing Joke, Cuiture Club, Bronski-Communards, Soft Cell , Cabaret Voltaire (Throbbing Gristle could also be in, but maybe "too old"), OMD, DM, JD and even INXS.
Etc... of course
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 04:44
Sean Trane wrote:
minis the singer/songwriter stuff
So I've seen Elvis Costello mentioned several times, doesn't he fit in this criteria?
If not, then my mistake.
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 05:28
Cristi wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
minis the singer/songwriter stuff
So I've seen Elvis Costello mentioned several times, doesn't he fit in this criteria?
If not, then my mistake.
He sort of fits early on in his career, but not later.
Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 06:05
When it comes to new wave, I'm more band oriented than album.
The Cars
B-52s
Fabulous Poodles
Blondie
The Rezillos
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 06:18
King Crimson - Discipline (gotta love RYM tagging)
XTC - Black Sea
Devo - Are We Not Men?
Elvis Costello - Armed Forces
Tubeway Army - Replicas
Japan - Tin Drum
Stranglers - The Raven
Fischer-Z - Word Salad
------------- Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 06:55
David_D wrote:
Lewian wrote:
So how would you define New Wave, David? I find it hard to think about this because many of my favourites belong in the post punk category and we had a punk list thread pretty recently that then included post punk if I'm not mistaken. On the other hand how poppy can it get? Nik Kershaw?
All I can say is, I agree much with RYM's definition ( https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/new-wave/" rel="nofollow - https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/new-wave/ ) minus New Romantics, and their labeling in general, and quite exactly, I can only tell for albums I know well.
but not least reggish rythms like by Police
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 06:58
suitkees wrote:
Always though that New Wave was not punk, but with synthesizers. I may be wrong.
See, that's the thing... the term has been used by many people in many different ways. Some include punk, some include some punk and not other, some don't include punk (of course defining punk is another thing). Some very explicitly say that post punk and goth are their own genres, therefore not included, some say that post punk is fairly central to new wave. Much stuff without synthesizers was originally included and the very first examples have little or no synth, but later synthesizers became something of a key ingredient apparently. (Acts like Ultravox or Joy Division/New Order started with very clear punk roots and mostly without electronics and then became very much synthpop. Maybe that's the central story.)
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 07:07
Saperlipopette! wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
minus the singer/songwriter stuff
So I've seen Elvis Costello mentioned several times, doesn't he fit in this criteria?
If not, then my mistake.
He sort of fits early on in his career, but not later.
Ditto for Joe Jackson, really
The first three albums are punky new wave, but then he veers jazzy .
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 08:13
OK, here's a list of albums tagged New Wave by rym. Occasionally I find myself surprised by what has the badge and what doesn't, but anyway... I' m not going to list King Crimson, tag or not.
The Comsat Angels - Waiting for a Miracle, Land (their essential Sleep No More is Dark Wave but not New Wave)
Killing Joke - Brighter than a Thousand Suns (maybe not their best either but has the right tag)
Joe Jackson - Look Sharp, Night and Day
Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense
The Cure (not listed as none of my favourites of them has the right tag; if we count Darkwave there should also be Joy Division)
Thomas Dolby - The Flat Earth, The Golden Age of Wireless
Mona Mur - Into Your Eye
Nik Kershaw - Human Racing, The Riddle
Japan - Tin Drum
Best albums tagged as Neue Deutsche Welle (new German wave):
Joachim Witt - Edelweiss
Fehlfarben - 33 Tage in Ketten
Scala 3 - Scala
Spliff - 85555
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 08:36
Lewian wrote:
Nik Kershaw - Human Racing, The Riddle
Just to be precise, these albums are not labeled by RYM New Wave as one of primary genres.
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 09:28
Cristi wrote:
The whole "new wave" is so confusing to begin with, it's what music came out in the aftermath of 70s punk and whatever new bands & artists that came out in the late 70s and early 80s, such as post punk (which is the father of gothic-rock I guess), synth-pop, power-pop, whatever Duran Duran is classified as , and so on...
Beyond mid 80s, I don't think we can talk about new wave though...
So yeah, it's all confusing with this genre.
It's not confusing once you dig into it.
The term basically applies to any pop oriented bands that kept a punk attitude only focused on catchy pop hooks rather than punk ferocity or the experimental arty approach of post-punk (of course there was much crossover between punk, post-punk and new wave.)
Often associated with synthesizers and synth-pop the term also encompassed pop punk, 2Tone, Pop Reggae, some jangle pop, the new romantic sound, the most poppy sounds of zolo and post-punk, power pop and other styles.
The term is still used for newer acts but i agree that it is better reserved for the era of the late 70s and early 80s since in effect it is so diverse.
I made a fave new wave album list on RYM years ago.
It's not up to date and i need to add new albums.
There was a very interesting new wave movement in Eastern Europe with excellent albums.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 09:36
siLLy puPPy wrote:
There was a very interesting new wave movement in Eastern Europe with excellent albums.
Can you name a few?
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 10:06
Cristi wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
There was a very interesting new wave movement in Eastern Europe with excellent albums.
Can you name a few?
I can't remember which albums i've listened to at the moment (hence why i haven't updated!) but here's a list of the top new wave albums from several Eastern European nations (not including former USSR)
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 10:14
siLLy puPPy wrote:
Cristi wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
There was a very interesting new wave movement in Eastern Europe with excellent albums.
Can you name a few?
I can't remember which albums i've listened to at the moment (hence why i haven't updated!) but here's a list of the top new wave albums from several Eastern European nations (not including former USSR)
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 10:53
siLLy puPPy wrote:
The term basically applies to any pop oriented bands that kept a punk attitude only focused on catchy pop hooks rather than punk ferocity or the experimental arty approach of post-punk (of course there was much crossover between punk, post-punk and new wave.)
I have a hard time thinking any of Tears For Fears, ABC, Duran Duran, Spandau Ballet or the like kept any punk attitude.
------------- Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 10:58
David_D wrote:
Saperlipopette! wrote:
I'll admit I use New Wave / Post-Punk as the genre and have little to no idea where one is supposed to draw the genre line.
It can certainly be difficult for me too to draw the exact line between these two genres, and some albums I might also label with both.
But I see New Wave as more Pop-influenced than Post-Punk, and Post-Punk more similar to Art-Rock.
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 11:13
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
The term basically applies to any pop oriented bands that kept a punk attitude only focused on catchy pop hooks rather than punk ferocity or the experimental arty approach of post-punk (of course there was much crossover between punk, post-punk and new wave.)
I have a hard time thinking any of Tears For Fears, ABC, Duran Duran, Spandau Ballet or the like kept any punk attitude.
Agree to a certain extent. The term kinda drifted beyond its original meaning for sure. In the case of Duran Duran and Tears For Fears they did exhibit some punk guitar moves on their first two albums.
Bands like ABC and Spandau Ballet, they were what's now called New Romantic and Sophisti-pop. I honestly don't know how those styles weaseled their way into the new wave scene but everyone seems to consider them new wave these days.
Orignally new wave referred to punk rock itself so the term continued to expand past its original parameters which is what makes it so confusing for everyone!
Why are Dexys Midnight Runners new wave and U2 not?
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 12:48
Cristi wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
There was a very interesting new wave movement in Eastern Europe with excellent albums.
Can you name a few?
Lady Pank (PL) - Lady Pank(1983)
Maanam (PL) - Nocny Patrol(1984)
But almost the best of these albums are the Polish vocals/lyrics, among other things suprisingly dissident.
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 13:26
^ listened to Maanam recently. Found the debut at least to be more post-punk than new wave sounding
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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 13:50
Never been a fan of punk rock and connected attitudes ( sniffin' glue, safety pin, pogo-ing, spiting/vomiting at other attendees during gigs or simply paying priced tix for 1/2h long concert) But the post punk era and the following 'new-wave' brought their share of good surprises :
The Chameleons : Script of the bridge (with its so prog-like cover art) Japan : Tin drum Japan : Gentlemen take polaroids Magazine : Secondhand daylight Magazine : The correct use of soap XTC : Drums and Wires XTC : English Settlement XTC : Black Sea Joy Division : Closer Joy Division : Atmosphere (EP) The Comsat Angels : Sleep no more Talking Heads : Fear of music Talking Heads : Remain in light Eyeless in Gaza : Caught in flux Echo and The Bunnymen : Crocodile Echo and The Bunnymen : Heaven up here Echo and The Bunnymen : Porcupine A Certain Ratio : Sextet ( with the single Knives slit water) Gang of Four : Solid Gold ( with the killer 'Paralyzed) The Durutti Column : LC Ultravox : Vienna Ultravox : Vienna EP with Herr X ... Lot were from Manchester and belonged to The Factory
I still have some and give them a spin from time to time
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 14:11
siLLy puPPy wrote:
^ listened to Maanam recently. Found the debut at least to be more post-punk than new wave sounding
I don't know the debut album, but on RYM it's also tagged Post-Punk as first priority and New Wave as second.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 14:56
But two great posts of yours to clarify "New Wave", siLLy puPPy, my big thanks.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 17:10
David_D wrote:
Lady Pank (PL) - Lady Pank(1983)
Maanam (PL) - Nocny Patrol(1984)
But almost the best of these albums are the Polish vocals/lyrics, among other things suprisingly dissident.
Even the title of Nocny Patrol, which means Night Patrol, and maybe the artwork too, refers to the time of martial law
introduced in Poland in the beginning of 1980s with the purpose of oppressing Solidarnosc, the free trade union and
political movement. - But what is most supprising is the fact that it was not only possible to get these albums released,
but also to sell in very large numbers.
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: May 24 2023 at 17:25
David_D wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
^ listened to Maanam recently. Found the debut at least to be more post-punk than new wave sounding
I don't know the debut album, but on RYM it's also tagged Post-Punk as first priority and New Wave as second.
RYM is superior to PA in many ways but one of its weaknesses is that anybody can tag any album and i've found quite a few mistagged albums the debut by Maanam being one of them. I guess if you really stretch it it's new wave but to me it was too raw and should only be post-punk.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 25 2023 at 00:21
David_D wrote:
David_D wrote:
Saperlipopette! wrote:
I'll admit I use New Wave / Post-Punk as the genre and have little to no idea where one is supposed to draw the genre line.
It can certainly be difficult for me too to draw the exact line between these two genres, and some albums I might also label with both.
But I see New Wave as more Pop-influenced than Post-Punk, and Post-Punk more similar to Art-Rock.
You're not wrong but Talking Heads and Devo are archtypical american New Wave - and certainly not the poppiest. It's primarely their quirky weirdness-factor that make them New Wave - while it's the pop-element (and occasional synths) that counts the most for a band like Blondie. Different rules for differnt bands really. Early Elvis Costello is unmistakably rock, although a sort of brainy one.
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 25 2023 at 07:09
^ Anyway, where to exactly draw the line between New Wave and Post-Punk, like in many other cases, that's a matter of taste.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 25 2023 at 07:15
David_D wrote:
^ Anyway, where to exactly draw the line between New Wave and Post-Punk, like in many other cases, that's a matter of taste.
I've decided that I don't have to draw a line.
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 25 2023 at 12:35
Do you think, siLLy puPPy, the artwork of Maanam's Nocny Patrol can refer to the time of martial law in Poland
where many people were killed? The album title (as told in earlier post) and about half of the songs do.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 25 2023 at 13:28
^ Ah, okay, that should be quite obvious.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 25 2023 at 14:01
11 The Stranglers No More Heroes
11 The PoliceOutlandos d'Amour
11 The Clash London Calling
11 Talking HeadsRemain In Light
11 King CrimsonDiscipline
11 Violent FemmesViolent Femmes
11 The Jam The Gift
11 Talking HeadsSpeaking In Tongues
11 Talking HeadsStop Making Sense
10Talk
TalkIt's My Life Eng1984 10 U2Unforgettable Fire Ire1984
11 The CultLove 1985
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 25 2023 at 14:56
Nice to see one more list on the new wave of New Wave.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: May 25 2023 at 16:43
Shreikback "Big Night Music" and the other usual ones.
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: May 25 2023 at 16:53
Human League : The Holidays 80 ( 2x 7 ") ( for Dancevision)
Posted By: Militskvinder
Date Posted: October 07 2023 at 10:46
Hello ladies and gentlemen
I ask your forgiveness in advance, and I hope you will have patience with me for what might sound like a stupid quest to some of you. I would also like to ask your forgiveness in case this is the wrong subsection of the forum to make this post in. Forgive me for reviving an older thread as well, but I consider this band New Wave all the way through.
I'll get straight to it:
I have always had a great interest in music throughout my life, and I find myself desiring to make a contribution to this great art, by pouring my time and efforts into promoting my favorite band of all time: Kliché (also sometimes known as Kliche).
I know musical preferences are personal, but to me, Kliche/Kliché is/was the greatest band in the world. That's why I'd like to exert some of my energy in the pursuit of preserving their legacy, not just in my own country, but also on an international scale. Their career as a band was very brief, but what they released during those few years of activity were two flawless and creatively explosive albums. Their live performances were great as well.
I recently took the first step in my journey, and went ahead and translated all of the lyrics from their officially released songs into English. I then went on to create lyric videos with these translated lyrics for an international audience. I would like to share these songs here, for the benefit of those of you who are unfamiliar with this band, and for whom this might be akin to discovering an unknown gem. For convenience, I've arranged the songs into playlists that correspond with the tracklists of the albums that the band released. I've also created a compilation playlist that combines all of their releases into a single playlist.
In 2006, a commission appointed by the Danish government were given the task to single out culturally significant works of art. They included Kliché's first studio album (Supertanker, 1980) on a list meant to reflect the most important musical compositions in Danish history and culture. The list comprises 12 musical compositions in total, and Kliché's debut album takes up one spot on this list. Their other releases are just as good, in my opinion.
Here is a short excerpt, briefly explaining a bit about the band and their sound and expression, taken from Wikipedia:
"Kliché was a Danish rock band from Aarhus, known for their avant-garde and postmodern musical style. In performance, the group wore uniforms or overalls in order to reflect a factory, even going so far as to use a metal grinder as an instrument. They ironically quoted Mao Zedong and Buddha in several of their songs and frequently made politically charged music. Their first album Supertanker entered the Danish Culture Canon in 2006 because of its influential status and expression of emerging post-modernity in early 1980's Denmark.
Together, the group's postmodern and new wave style was influenced by rock artists of the era such as Kraftwerk, David Bowie, Roxy Music and Brian Eno. In performance, they wore white boilersuits, likely influenced or inspired by the group DEVO, which had been performing with a similar uniform.
The band was formed in 1977 by Anders Brill, Lars H.U.G., Jens Valo, and Johannes Voss (Johannes Møller). The group's original members met while studying at the Aarhus Art Academy. Nils Torp, Steffen Brandt, and Hilmer Hassig later played with the group as well. The group effectively dissolved after Lars H.U.G. left in 1985, though other members continued to collaborate under the name Voss/Torp/Brill and later Voss/Torp.
Their debut album, Supertanker, was released in 1980 by Medley Records. As a work of social commentary, the supertanker was used by the band as a symbol of mass consumption. The album provides commentary on consumerism and is critical of prevailing political ideologies. In particular, their song "Masselinjen" is a direct and obvious commentary on Mao Zedong's mass line. It is a ten minute long piece with only one lyric: a direct quote from Mao stating “the people, and the people alone, are the motive force in the making of world history” (Danish: “Folket og kun folket er drivkraften i skabelsen af verdenshistorien”). While Danish rock of the era was often politically charged, Supertanker was a revolutionary work of social commentary because it employed ambiguous lyrics and ambient sounds to communicate its message. The album's musical style was pioneering in its use of exposed synthesizer sounds, distorted guitar, instrumental pop, and an overall focus on atmospheric tonal quality rather than pure melody. The album was formally entered in the Danish Culture Cannon in 2006 for its unique impact on the Danish post-modern movement during the 1980s.
Kliché's second album, Okay Okay Boys, was released in 1982 under the same label. The album was a stylistic continuation of their first, with similarly socially critical lyrics. Production began soon thereafter on a third album, but this was never completed. The band in effect dissolved in 1985 when Lars Hug left the group to pursue a solo career. The remaining members of the band continued to collaborate under different names during the late 1980s. A compilation album, De Samlede Klichéer, was released in 2010."
Read more at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klich%C3%A9" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klich%C3%A9
If anyone is interested, I can also send you links to the very scarce live performance footage that I am familiar with (audio and video bootlegs, as well as professional recordings). I can also send you links to official music videos.
Without further ado, here are the links to the playlists with lyric videos that I've created:
Two songs from Pære Punk ("Pære Punk" was a Danish compilation album, featuring various Danish punk bands. This compilation album was originally released in April, 1979. The album featured 20 tracks in total, with only two tracks contributed by Kliché. I've collected those two Kliché tracks here.)
If you don't want to listen to an entire album just to see if you'd be into the music, here are a few songs to give you a small sampling.
Militskvinder ("Militia Women"), from Supertanker:
Havets Blå ("The Ocean's Blue"), from Supertanker:
Masselinjen (sometimes also spelled "Masselinien", meaning "The Mass Line"), from Supertanker:
Bag De Røde Bjerge ("Behind the Red Mountains"), from Okay Okay Boys:
Pil På Himlen ("Arrow in the Sky"), from Okay Okay Boys:
Brændende Kakler ("Burning Tiles", referring to the tiles that comprise part of the Space Shuttle thermal protection system), from Okay Okay Boys:
Disclaimer: I've translated the lyrics from Danish into English. I am an amateur translator with no professional experience, and I don't hold any degrees in either language. I am a huge fan of the band, and I simply wanted the English speaking world to be able to get a sense of what message the lyrics are conveying. I've tried to stay as close to the literal meaning as possible, but minor adjustments were necessary due to the differences in syntax and expression between the two languages.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 07 2023 at 13:09
Favourite New Wave Albums: 1977-1990
1977: David Bowie - Low - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VomGFs_DaIk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VomGFs_DaIk
1980: Buggles - The Age of Plastic - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kDa9MV3a5Uqdp-YrjcdaiizTW3JVaUaxk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kDa9MV3a5Uqdp-YrjcdaiizTW3JVaUaxk
1980: OMD - Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mNLlvHvNXlVeMYDEkkP89Oa-vFVys0_0c" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mNLlvHvNXlVeMYDEkkP89Oa-vFVys0_0c
1981: The Human League - Dare - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kleqYoWvyce3vqYTULVYUavBk-ncUkOxc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kleqYoWvyce3vqYTULVYUavBk-ncUkOxc
1981: Pretenders - Pretenders II - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kmstQVGm3IBA-WDycbMZKU5xS2d7p4dko" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kmstQVGm3IBA-WDycbMZKU5xS2d7p4dko
1981: Ultravox - Rage in Eden - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe5AzvnGx9OK23biWq2ur0zc90OKWGNcM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe5AzvnGx9OK23biWq2ur0zc90OKWGNcM
1982: ABC - The Lexicon of Love - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_njQ-vtLtdr8lCUJvijX4QrS6Rf48QgtwA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_njQ-vtLtdr8lCUJvijX4QrS6Rf48QgtwA
1982: Berlin - Pleasure Victim - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrpyDacBCh7DuovhR_PgCoQkVUn3vVpdW" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrpyDacBCh7DuovhR_PgCoQkVUn3vVpdW
1982: China Crisis - Difficult Shapes and Passive Rhythms - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lQJUi-xOWRentDOa08wmyg2ZGMEHQFPXs" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lQJUi-xOWRentDOa08wmyg2ZGMEHQFPXs
1982: Depeche Mode - A Broken Frame - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hN9tv_XGP0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hN9tv_XGP0
1982: Duran Duran - Rio - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_le8SeEVZLvt24gIzQ4k4391QB2rUwr_6U" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_le8SeEVZLvt24gIzQ4k4391QB2rUwr_6U
1982: Flock of Seagulls - A Flock of Seagulls - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGFFTE0Sw8tRSx7gAqAeLt8ZaLV8jKmtX" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGFFTE0Sw8tRSx7gAqAeLt8ZaLV8jKmtX
1982: The Go-Go's - Vacation - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nHlZ_Tc_YO4B1TCOn8tuQXfMbhalQwKOs" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nHlZ_Tc_YO4B1TCOn8tuQXfMbhalQwKOs
1982: Icehouse - Primitive Man - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mNknwixkL2LjBExf22wYftl697lQ_-3b4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mNknwixkL2LjBExf22wYftl697lQ_-3b4
1983: China Crisis - Working with Fire and Steel - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lnegkMOcmRO_LlP8_QPhKB1WFH8JJDtc0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lnegkMOcmRO_LlP8_QPhKB1WFH8JJDtc0
1983: Depeche Mode - Construction Time Again - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k6S87dxu6Q9wZEuO1xjAxh7jh92zpiROE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k6S87dxu6Q9wZEuO1xjAxh7jh92zpiROE
1983: Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mVHolcLdgYaXZ8nkUk0rX1a8V-pb0fAyU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mVHolcLdgYaXZ8nkUk0rX1a8V-pb0fAyU
1984: Fiction Factory - Throw the Warped Wheel Out - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kpT_QxdiE5ROLtJ4__easfSd4cutTO7Ss" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kpT_QxdiE5ROLtJ4__easfSd4cutTO7Ss
1984: Flock of Seagulls - The Story of a Young Heart - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_neAyXmxdYwMurgmEsgMZRHsAOy2vy0uY4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_neAyXmxdYwMurgmEsgMZRHsAOy2vy0uY4
1984: The Human League - Hysteria - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kY7yDjwh3LFGSOpTqMCPavjcAjp45bawI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kY7yDjwh3LFGSOpTqMCPavjcAjp45bawI
1984: The Lotus Eaters - No Sense of Sin - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjDv4ea654g" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjDv4ea654g
1985: A-Ha - Hunting High and Low - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ldg_UUKSKemf6g6lkAFu2ZLVFd5_u-N_Q" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ldg_UUKSKemf6g6lkAFu2ZLVFd5_u-N_Q
1985: China Crisis - Flaunt the Imperfection - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuPeG11rnEc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuPeG11rnEc
1985: The Dream Academy - The Dream Academy - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nm2fEa-chjEzoo6idskwIKvepyCxdrGIU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nm2fEa-chjEzoo6idskwIKvepyCxdrGIU
1985: Katrina and the Waves - Katrina and the Waves - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kT29pYjk7E-0m3X2K71XvJlrjA4NTxvYE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kT29pYjk7E-0m3X2K71XvJlrjA4NTxvYE
1985: Simple Minds - Once Upon a Time - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lL1C29RTHGhn4r6z0MbxXjpMps0iz2u6Y" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lL1C29RTHGhn4r6z0MbxXjpMps0iz2u6Y
1985: Tears for Fears - Songs from the Big Chair - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-0DOYOynuQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-0DOYOynuQ
1986: A-Ha - Scoundrel Days - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l4V4J7O5NZ4nTEFIVNYkzU0-t5AmglPBc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l4V4J7O5NZ4nTEFIVNYkzU0-t5AmglPBc
1986: The Fixx - Walkabout - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLI6kLIhBBwmTVW_Tz7bnLvS1hv9VHOWpP" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLI6kLIhBBwmTVW_Tz7bnLvS1hv9VHOWpP
1986: The Human League - Crash - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_las6rCrhMgTXNd_C-91VV_1TJsPRLqgZc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_las6rCrhMgTXNd_C-91VV_1TJsPRLqgZc
1986: OMD - The Pacific Age - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kWvUfW9aEtBB4QfjwV7h6JD2XWCdhfYbc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kWvUfW9aEtBB4QfjwV7h6JD2XWCdhfYbc
1986: Pretenders - Get Close - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzGotn8LeP0c2HD5kQEi8U0iRdVMEbl8g" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzGotn8LeP0c2HD5kQEi8U0iRdVMEbl8g
1986: Talk Talk - The Colour of Spring - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_koE4rtsIJ002pzrNOUIjuhnft_Aun9pkY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_koE4rtsIJ002pzrNOUIjuhnft_Aun9pkY
1987: ABC - Alphabet City - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8JmtDwkdDP_E9015Qtov4R2sHgx3HLkl" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8JmtDwkdDP_E9015Qtov4R2sHgx3HLkl
1987: Aztec Camera - Love - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLR-rYYGS6juCTDobs-aFwXQfTgaeeG8Tv" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLR-rYYGS6juCTDobs-aFwXQfTgaeeG8Tv
1987: Black - Wonderful Life - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kCPh6f2VR2b5U8yLYozPTpwo5dluQ-Dt4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kCPh6f2VR2b5U8yLYozPTpwo5dluQ-Dt4
1987: Depeche Mode - Music for the Masses - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n_q78KohTRBZu8kFOy5tvo-g8Ip-jBXKY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n_q78KohTRBZu8kFOy5tvo-g8Ip-jBXKY
1987: Icehouse - Man of Colours - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lR6BjrCni5o2o35qo27IJ0WPiT73X28nc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lR6BjrCni5o2o35qo27IJ0WPiT73X28nc
1987: Level 42 - Running in the Family - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLy334-fF2BEwrl7GKUguFgP2a20WWDRg6" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLy334-fF2BEwrl7GKUguFgP2a20WWDRg6
1987: Pet Shop Boys - Actually - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mS9dHPkhcA2Y65g8Z4YAPOyrEhUFDlCEg" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mS9dHPkhcA2Y65g8Z4YAPOyrEhUFDlCEg
1987: The Psychedelic Furs - Midnight to Midnight - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaB6kLqtS0ZO4wfsgEKdhtwi1Cfm4bunf" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaB6kLqtS0ZO4wfsgEKdhtwi1Cfm4bunf
1988: Prefab Sprout - From Langley Park to Memphis - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeCO3VkusdWTVrNCgRvIXr-MARknVK1Ia" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeCO3VkusdWTVrNCgRvIXr-MARknVK1Ia
1988: When in Rome - When in Rome - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0Asr6YC2Nw7xK-m8JMY6HukQSqC0Wda9" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0Asr6YC2Nw7xK-m8JMY6HukQSqC0Wda9
1989: The Blue Nile - Hats - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXkeBruAFMI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXkeBruAFMI
1989: Simple Minds - Street Fighting Years - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l7CUznrkkx08nTdm_Xe-iSwyxPLcLzk4Q" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l7CUznrkkx08nTdm_Xe-iSwyxPLcLzk4Q
1989: Tears for Fears - The Seeds of Love - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nzDcE4P9uRjxbaVYOEh_CrGpRIeCDYmzg" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nzDcE4P9uRjxbaVYOEh_CrGpRIeCDYmzg
1990: A--Ha - East of the Sun, West of the Moon - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n08LuDJaKPCov4Hep-WVOgN2yiV5GKaDI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n08LuDJaKPCov4Hep-WVOgN2yiV5GKaDI
1990: Depeche Mode - Violator - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mHs4cUqzH65iMdDBiAQNn44HxkHSy98Uk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mHs4cUqzH65iMdDBiAQNn44HxkHSy98Uk
1990: The Human League - Romantic? - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lR_ciyXSzFm0i1hymbKWwN69RqBiDGbuY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lR_ciyXSzFm0i1hymbKWwN69RqBiDGbuY
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 07 2023 at 14:41
These songs & the albums they're from.
Plus any Joe Jackson, The Specials,
Elvis Costello (Angels Wanna Wear My) Red Shoes
XTC - Making Plans For Nigel
Yazoo - Only You
The Jags - Back Of My Hand
OMD - Enola Gay
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 07 2023 at 14:46
Some 'fringe' new wave ??
Nina Hagen Universal Radio
Klaus Nomi - Total Eclipse
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 07 2023 at 14:57
Despite my age and when I first got into music I don't own much new wave and was never really into it much. That said here's a few albums I've always liked:
A Flock of Seagulls - Same
Duran Duran - Rio
The Cars - Same, Heartbeat City, Candy O and Shake it up (never heard Panorama)
The Police - Zenyetta Mondatta, Ghost in the Machine and Synchronicity
Rush - Signals (a little bit anyway)
The Pretenders - Learning to crawl
Violent Femmes - Same
The Fixx - Reach The Beach
Talking Heads - Speaking in Tongues
Maybe some others too. I cheated a little bit by looking at others answers.
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 07 2023 at 16:34
Nina Hagen Band - s/t
Simple Minds - Sons and Fascination
Joy Division - Closer
Talk Talk - The Colour of Spring
Tubeway Army - Replicas
The Police - Regatta de Blanc
Brian Eno - Another Green World
Ultravox - Vienna
David Byrne - The Catharine Wheel
Propaganda - A Secret Wish
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: October 07 2023 at 17:14
I was more a fan of individual tracks than whole albums in this genre
limiting to at most one album per artist, in no particular order, including what I would more call synth pop and post punk, but whatever
Ultravox - Quartet (nothing as better than the song Vienna but as an album I prefer this one)
Simple Minds - New Gold Dream
Buggles - Age of Plastic
China Crisis - Flaunt the Imperfection
Joy Division - Closer
Red Box - The Circle and the Square
Thompson Twins - Into The Gap
Greg Kihn - Next of Kihn
Prefab Sprout - Two Wheels Good
Ian Gomm - Gomm with the Wind
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 07 2023 at 21:05
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Favourite New Wave Albums: 1977-1990
Most of the post 1985-albums here is absurd to label New Wave. It mostly died out sometime in the mid-eighties, and the bands still active that were once associated with it - had moved on.
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 07 2023 at 21:53
I made a list of my favorite NEW WAVE albums on RYM after someone requested it
Recent gems i've discovered are the first two XTC albums (only heard the ones after)
Bruce Woolley and the Camera Club - English Garden
Franco Barttiato - La Voce del Padrone
Grace Jones - Nightclubbing
Split Enz - True Colours
The Synthetics - S/T
Tempo - Beat Beat Beat
The Victims - Silent Dreams
Fave NEW WAVE artists:
Wall of Voodoo
Men Without Hats
Ultravox
Tears For Fears
Talking Heads
The Cars
The Cure (if you count them, i do)
Devo
Duran Duran (first three)
Eurythmics
The Fixx
Men At Work
Midnight Oil
Oingo Boingo
The Police
The Psychedelic Furs
Re-Flex
List of fave NEW WAVE albums (adding more as i discover them)
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 07 2023 at 21:55
Saperlipopette! wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Favourite New Wave Albums: 1977-1990
Most of the post 1985-albums here is absurd to label New Wave. It mostly died out sometime in the mid-eighties, and the bands still active that were once associated with it - had moved on.
It may seem so but the term is still used for bands that use the retro sounds of that era
Up to 1990 is legit because certain parts of the world didn't join the party until the mid-80s
I agree that by 1985 the actual movement died out but the term for the musical styles that were referred to as new wave continued to be called that
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 07 2023 at 22:38
siLLy puPPy wrote:
Saperlipopette! wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Favourite New Wave Albums: 1977-1990
Most of the post 1985-albums here is absurd to label New Wave. It mostly died out sometime in the mid-eighties, and the bands still active that were once associated with it - had moved on.
It may seem so but the term is still used for bands that use the retro sounds of that era
Up to 1990 is legit because certain parts of the world didn't join the party until the mid-80s
I agree that by 1985 the actual movement died out but the term for the musical styles that were referred to as new wave continued to be called that
There will always be latecomers to whatever genre. And they are not represented on Paul's list of favorites. Where there's mainly a bunch of albums from bands that used to be New Wave - or somewhere in that neighborhood. Also every single style ever gets ressurected at some point, but that's not what this is about. Rockabilly got it's revival during the New Wave-era, but that doesn't change the fact that it originally died - or changed into something else as early as in the late 1950's.
Posted By: Fercandio46
Date Posted: October 07 2023 at 23:09
Graham Parker (1977) Stick to me
Japan (1978) Adolescent Sex
Joe Jackson (1978) Look Sharp!
Blondie (1978) Plastic Letters
Talking Heads (1979) Fear of Music
The Police (1980) Zennyatta Mondata
B-52's (1980) Wild Planet
Charly García (1982) Yendo de la cama al living
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 07 2023 at 23:24
Saperlipopette! wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
Saperlipopette! wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Favourite New Wave Albums: 1977-1990
Most of the post 1985-albums here is absurd to label New Wave. It mostly died out sometime in the mid-eighties, and the bands still active that were once associated with it - had moved on.
It may seem so but the term is still used for bands that use the retro sounds of that era
Up to 1990 is legit because certain parts of the world didn't join the party until the mid-80s
I agree that by 1985 the actual movement died out but the term for the musical styles that were referred to as new wave continued to be called that
There will always be latecomers to whatever genre. And they are not represented on Paul's list of favorites. Where there's mainly a bunch of albums from bands that used to be New Wave - or somewhere in that neighborhood. Also every single style ever gets ressurected at some point, but that's not what this is about. Rockabilly got it's revival during the New Wave-era, but that doesn't change the fact that it originally died - or changed into something else as early as in the late 1950's.
The term New Wave is a rather nebulous one. I'm not sure why Rockabilly revival such as The Stray Cats were included in that at all to be honest. Mostly New Wave refers to angsty pop tunes that feature some punk guitar moves and slick videos. Many of the synthpop bands like OMD and New Order continued this into the 90s even once the initial craze died off about 1985-ish. It's not an exact science. I gave up on that long ago. It's open to a lot of interpretation so i've learned just to roll with it. Paul is famous however for adding totally unrelated artists to genre lists though. Even artists in the New Wave years like R.E.M. aren't considered New Wave even though they kinda are. Go figure!
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 08 2023 at 00:39
siLLy puPPy wrote:
Paul is famous however for adding totally unrelated artists to genre lists though.
More like infamous.
Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: October 08 2023 at 00:46
Probably my favourite new wave band and album.
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 08 2023 at 00:52
^That wasn't the reason I used 1980's Rockabilly-revival as an example. I don't think they were ever considered New Wave either. But they've were linked to Post-Punk in retrospect because of their updated punk attitude to their Rock 'n Roll.
Anyway... I think you got the point of my original comment. Essentially I reacted to Psych Pauls list of "favorite new wave albums 1980-1990" because the second half of the decade felt short on actual New Wave albums. If one's not an expert of underground obscurities, or deeply into late to the scene-countries from behind the Iron Curtain or something like that, there's very little albums out there in that period that aren't better described using other labels than New Wave. (New Order were probably some kind of New Wave till 1986, but most of the rest here had either polished and commercialized their sound or gone alternative rock in one way or another). I'm not certain what I'm discussing anymore.
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 08 2023 at 05:16
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
Paul is famous however for adding totally unrelated artists to genre lists though.
More like infamous.
Yeah, you sneaky chap trying to put Shocking Blue on prog lists
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 08 2023 at 05:17
Saperlipopette! wrote:
I'm not certain what I'm discussing anymore.
Yeah! Ultimately that where you eventually end up with NEW WAVE
You pretty much just go along for the ride and don't think too much about it.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 08 2023 at 05:41
siLLy puPPy wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
Paul is famous however for adding totally unrelated artists to genre lists though.
More like infamous.
Yeah, you sneaky chap trying to put Shocking Blue on prog lists
That's Shocking!
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 08 2023 at 08:25
Any Poppers around here?
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 08 2023 at 11:25
kenethlevine wrote:
I was more a fan of individual tracks than whole albums in this genre
limiting to at most one album per artist, in no particular order, including what I would more call synth pop and post punk, but whatever
Ultravox - Quartet (nothing as better than the song Vienna but as an album I prefer this one)
Simple Minds - New Gold Dream
Buggles - Age of Plastic
China Crisis - Flaunt the Imperfection
Joy Division - Closer
Red Box - The Circle and the Square
Thompson Twins - Into The Gap
Greg Kihn - Next of Kihn
Prefab Sprout - Two Wheels Good
Ian Gomm - Gomm with the Wind
I agree, these Synth/Electro Pop bands got lumped in with the new wave genre at first. It wasn't till a little later there seemed to be a concerted effort to give them their own space.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 08 2023 at 16:05
I don't think I liked anything that was called 'New Wave' that much. The original British punk scene was interesting because it had so much energy. At the time (1977) this was The Sex Pistols, The Damned, The Stranglers, The Jam, The Motors, The Clash (what was all this having to have 'The' before the name?!) etc. Then a bunch of other stuff surfaced that was supposedly more interesting but generally not. I liked some of the electronic bands that came out between 1980 and 1983 (OMD, Gary Numan, Visage) Ultravox started out earlier with John Foxx so can't count them.
Virtually the only albums I purchased that could possibly be included were Tubeway Army - Replicas and Simple Minds - Sparkle In The Rain (both really good). At the time I was busy collecting classic prog albums so didn't spare much thought for a lot of this stuff. Always thought that IQ's first 2 albums had a bit of a punk meets prog feel to them and some of the guys in the band were sporting a punk influenced spikey hair look!
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 08 2023 at 17:01
New Wave albums which I bought on vinyl back in the eighties, when I didn't always make the best choices.
1983: China Crisis - Working with Fire and Steel - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lnegkMOcmRO_LlP8_QPhKB1WFH8JJDtc0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lnegkMOcmRO_LlP8_QPhKB1WFH8JJDtc0
1985: China Crisis - Flaunt the Imperfection - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuPeG11rnEc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuPeG11rnEc
1982; Culture Club - Kissing to Be Clever - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mFrEZjr0Sd0O3SR6-0nZwF_WRbK-J78vw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mFrEZjr0Sd0O3SR6-0nZwF_WRbK-J78vw
1983: Culture Club - Colour by Numbers - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nu6GiJU5H4PdgBR_VK0bNxwA1HhXvqa8s" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nu6GiJU5H4PdgBR_VK0bNxwA1HhXvqa8s
1982: Depeche Mode - A Broken Frame - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hN9tv_XGP0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hN9tv_XGP0
1983: Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mVHolcLdgYaXZ8nkUk0rX1a8V-pb0fAyU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mVHolcLdgYaXZ8nkUk0rX1a8V-pb0fAyU
1982: The Go-Go's - Vacation - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nHlZ_Tc_YO4B1TCOn8tuQXfMbhalQwKOs" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nHlZ_Tc_YO4B1TCOn8tuQXfMbhalQwKOs
1981: The Human League - Dare - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kleqYoWvyce3vqYTULVYUavBk-ncUkOxc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kleqYoWvyce3vqYTULVYUavBk-ncUkOxc
1984: The Human League - Hysteria - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kY7yDjwh3LFGSOpTqMCPavjcAjp45bawI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kY7yDjwh3LFGSOpTqMCPavjcAjp45bawI
1985: Howard Jones - Dream into Action - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQHdmy_iLS7e20ElhlNWIBh4GwAfqyje6" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQHdmy_iLS7e20ElhlNWIBh4GwAfqyje6
1988: Prefab Sprout - From Langley Park to Memphis - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeCO3VkusdWTVrNCgRvIXr-MARknVK1Ia" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeCO3VkusdWTVrNCgRvIXr-MARknVK1Ia
1986: Pretenders - Get Close - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzGotn8LeP0c2HD5kQEi8U0iRdVMEbl8g" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzGotn8LeP0c2HD5kQEi8U0iRdVMEbl8g
1982: Talk Talk - The Party's Over - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kvjRb0tFuvjJ6xHAMWBV6zgsrTcegA-QA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kvjRb0tFuvjJ6xHAMWBV6zgsrTcegA-QA
1985: Tears for Fears - Songs from the Big Chair - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-0DOYOynuQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-0DOYOynuQ
1989: Tears for Fears - The Seeds of Love - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nzDcE4P9uRjxbaVYOEh_CrGpRIeCDYmzg" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nzDcE4P9uRjxbaVYOEh_CrGpRIeCDYmzg
1984: Thompson Twins - Into the Gap - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ms1WWkH5XcRahDDXMmKodbprBUpCnNzqg" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ms1WWkH5XcRahDDXMmKodbprBUpCnNzqg
1985: Thompson Twins - Here's to Future Days - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ncwhQXrCIzSHn0V59jcoE6Ib2kGjkwerA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ncwhQXrCIzSHn0V59jcoE6Ib2kGjkwerA
1979: The Tourists - The Tourists - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEi4PzjGmw8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEi4PzjGmw8
1983: Yazoo - You and Me Both - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm4rvI84Yfg" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm4rvI84Yfg
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: October 08 2023 at 18:55
In my first delivery ( may 23) I forgot to mention
Wire : 154 from 1979 (3rd LP) Eyeless in Gaza ( after an Aldous Huxley's novel) ( first period 1980/1986) minimalist music lead by a duo, great stuff, the seven first LP/EP are OK
Photographs as memories , Caught in Flux , The Eyes of Beautiful Losers Pale hands I loved so well , Drumming the beating heart , Rust red september Back from the rains
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: October 08 2023 at 19:20
For right now, I'll say "Robert Fripp - Exposure"
I used to play bass in several new wave bands, let's say I'd had enough of that!
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 08 2023 at 20:20
cstack3 wrote:
For right now, I'll say "Robert Fripp - Exposure"
I used to play bass in several new wave bands, let's say I'd had enough of that!
Really? Which ones?
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: October 09 2023 at 03:46
David_D wrote:
Any Poppers around here?
I know how to make popping sounds with my mouth. Or, am I confusing this with something else?
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: October 09 2023 at 07:37
mellotronwave wrote:
I Eyeless in Gaza ( after an Aldous Huxley's novel) ( first period 1980/1986) minimalist music lead by a duo, great stuff, the seven first LP/EP are OK
Photographs as memories , Caught in Flux , The Eyes of Beautiful Losers Pale hands I loved so well , Drumming the beating heart , Rust red september
Back from the rains
I'd never have thought of them as New Wave but great they were (also Martyn Bates' solo work).
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 09 2023 at 07:59
progaardvark wrote:
David_D wrote:
Any Poppers around here?
I know how to make popping sounds with my mouth. Or, am I confusing this with something else?
I don't know what's a "Popper" either.
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 09 2023 at 08:24
Cristi wrote:
progaardvark wrote:
David_D wrote:
Any Poppers around here?
I know how to make popping sounds with my mouth. Or, am I confusing this with something else?
I don't know what's a "Popper" either.
Slang An ampoule of amylnitrite or butylnitrite,usedillicitly to induceeuphoriaandenhancesexualstimulation.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 09 2023 at 08:30
siLLy puPPy wrote:
Cristi wrote:
progaardvark wrote:
David_D wrote:
Any Poppers around here?
I know how to make popping sounds with my mouth. Or, am I confusing this with something else?
I don't know what's a "Popper" either.
Slang An ampoule of amylnitrite or butylnitrite,usedillicitly to induceeuphoriaandenhancesexualstimulation.
I doubt the user who asked about "poppers" had that in mind.
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 09 2023 at 08:45
Cristi wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
Cristi wrote:
progaardvark wrote:
David_D wrote:
Any Poppers around here?
I know how to make popping sounds with my mouth. Or, am I confusing this with something else?
I don't know what's a "Popper" either.
Slang An ampoule of amylnitrite or butylnitrite,usedillicitly to induceeuphoriaandenhancesexualstimulation.
I doubt the user who asked about "poppers" had that in mind.
That's the ONLY meaning the term has when popper is in the pural.
The way it was asked it's obvious to me that's EXACTLY what was being implied
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: October 09 2023 at 10:42
And here all I was thinking of was imitations of coffee pots popping.
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Posted By: Lesanderd
Date Posted: October 10 2023 at 05:52
Simple Minds-New Gold Dream
Talking Heads-Remain in Light
Spandau Ballet-True
Talk Talk-The Colour of Spring
Ultravox-Vienna
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 13 2023 at 09:05
Another favourite.
Images In Vogue - Fade Away
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