Interactive Poll: It Takes Two!
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Topic: Interactive Poll: It Takes Two!
Posted By: Mila-13
Subject: Interactive Poll: It Takes Two!
Date Posted: March 25 2023 at 20:40
 IT TAKES TWO! Hello and welcome to another episode of our Interactive Poll series! I hope you guys like the chosen topic. Intro There is something quite unique about musical duos, depending on the genre someties also called "two-piece bands" or similar. It is this power that comes from the magical interaction between two creative minds! The best duos of all time come in all kinds of musical genres and performing styles. Sometimes a duo is the heart of a larger musical group, and sometimes they are the sole performers. These are the guidelines: The focus here should be on the latter, that is duos in the proper sense (not to be confused with an occasional duet), whereby additional musicians may also be present, but in a supporting role, so to speak.- Moreover, it can also be a joint side project of two artists who otherwise have other projects of their own. The main thing is that the two create something new together, even if it is only one album etc. Feel free to also bring some of your favourite well-known acts. These may participate in a separate category. For the main category everyone can nominate up to 2 tracks and for the side category 1 each (optional). Depending on the number of participants you will have 3 or maybe one more vote in the main category and 1 vote in the side category. You cannot vote for your own contributions. The rough time frame for the poll including the voting will be about one month from now (till late April). So let's dive in and have some fun!  ____________________________________ Playlist of suggested tracks https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRF2N4J-pa5TIrdHxmA39tgV1nhvsAPWk" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRF2N4J-pa5TIrdHxmA39tgV1nhvsAPWk Playlist of nominated tracks https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRF2N4J-pa5SpqLeSkf3PHEF4KdvVt-xg" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRF2N4J-pa5SpqLeSkf3PHEF4KdvVt-xg |
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 26 2023 at 04:23
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Nice theme! I'll probably suggest something else later, because I had these in one of the first interactive polls if I remember correctly, but here's the as far as I can see only video where you can see wonderful Swiss duo Diethelm & Famulari play. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 26 2023 at 04:41
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I see Simon and Garfunkel and Eurythmics there, i like these two, thought of them when i read the thread title. I'll think of some other artists and get back to this. Nice idea for a poll.
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: March 26 2023 at 06:06
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^^ @Christian, thank you for this Diethelm & Famulari piece, it is really great! I know Thomas Diethelm but I have to admit that I am not familiar with his work in detail since that was largely before my time. I had a look on youtube and found some more recordings of the duo by the way.
I'm glad that you and Cristi joined in! I had quite a few poll topics in mind but they were maybe a bit too specific. In the end I picked something that might appeal to a wider range of people. Let's see! |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: March 26 2023 at 06:07
^^ Hey Cristi, welcome aboard! I'm curious to see what you will bring.  |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 26 2023 at 07:03
Also where you can see them play, in the video, I mean?
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Mila-13 wrote:Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 26 2023 at 07:28
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Thanks Mila! Nice theme. So, first offering is a duo I suggested before in the movie soundtrack poll, Trent Reznor & Atticus Ross, with Technically Missing from the Gone Girl soundtrack. They have won a couple of Oscars for their film scores to The Social Network and Soul. In 2016, they released a track to commemorate the Juno space probe arriving at Jupiter with guest "vocals" by the planet Jupiter itself. Bonus video. It is used in this NASA video, Visions of Harmony: Inspired by NASA's Mission Juno, which takes a look at the interconnectedness of analytic and creative thought. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: March 26 2023 at 07:34
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^ @Christian
That's true, I haven't found any live videos. By chance I just came across some live footage in the archives of Swiss TV! But unfortunately you have probably no access from abroad. :(
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 26 2023 at 07:39
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: March 26 2023 at 11:48
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Interesting theme, although it limits quite a bit the scope - or maybe my scope is limited on this question of duos... Will think about it, but nothing springs to mind that I consider original enough and/or interesting enough to my ears and I don't have much time to search for something. ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 26 2023 at 12:33
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Some prog ones: (I hope I don't get complaints for posting too many; you don't need to listen to all of them of course  ). Two legendaru things with Mr. Eno involved, probably fairly well known, and some collaborative projects of Can members around 2000, long after Can had ceased to exist. You need to appreciate electronic music for these, but really, they have done so good and sophisticated stuff long after the work that's in the focus of the prog community, I can hardly stop to play it. Geniuses, all of them. Brian Eno & David Byrne Fripp & Eno Irmin Schmidt & Kumo Holger Czukay vs. Dr. Walker Datenverarbeiter vs. Jaki LIebezeit |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 26 2023 at 17:42
| Christian, which Brian Eno and David Byrne? Doesn't play for me. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 26 2023 at 17:50
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Keeping up unintentionally with a space theme, second up is The Claypool Lennon Delerium. The duo is Les Claypool of Primus and Sean Lennon, son of John and Yoko. They have two albums and are on PA. The song is Blood and Rockets: Movement I, Saga of Jack Parsons / Movement II, Too the Moon. |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: March 26 2023 at 18:17
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The duo I choose for both of my contributions is Godley & Creme. For my first contribution, I couldn't find a video of only what I wanted, so I had to submit the entire album. But my intention was to submit the following tracks (as a single submission) from Part 1 of Consequences: 1. Seascape 2. Wind 3. Fireworks 4. Stampede (00:00 - 11:37) My second contribution is also from Consequences, Part 6, a track called "Blint's Tune (Movements 1-17)": ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 00:36
I'm confident that you will find something. The topic is actually not too demanding imo. Have another look at the desctipion above and you will see that the topic is leaving considerable room for interpretation. It is not just about longstanding duos. It can also be e.g. a side project of two artists or a new project of an artist who has finished his band career and starts collaborating with new artists, e.g. in the form of a duo. No need to rush, you have at least two full weekends. Get inspired by suggestions of other participants and maybe also by previous polls. Editions 30 and 48 are about collaborations, the latter with family members. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 03:14
Track: Mea Culpa Album: My Life in the Bush of Ghosts (original release 1981; digital remaster 2006). Christian picked the newer release. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 03:45
Yes, but the release isn't really important, so any version will do. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 04:23
Thanks for joining! It might get a little tricky with your first contribution since we use playlists. People may not understand your intention. I could include the info in the playlist description but it is not very liekely that people will pay attention. Anyway, I think it would be interesting to have two different acts or at least tracks from two different albums. If people like what they hear they will find the album. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 04:26
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 06:14
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You're right, Mila, it was enough to take a better look at my collection... So here it goes. First the American Seymour twin brothers Mark and Clark with their Mark & Clark Band. It seems like they are the typical one-hit-wonder, but only in the Netherlands: There's only a Dutch https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_%26_Clark_Band" rel="nofollow - wikipedia page dedicated to this band, although this song also has its https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worn_Down_Piano" rel="nofollow - English page . So I discovered this track long ago thanks to Dutch radio, and when I stumbled upon a 2nd hand LP of their album - long ago - I bought it blindly for this song (it was cheap, and still in Dutch guilders!). The rest of the album is nothing special, but I still very much like this wonderful song. Mark and Clark both on grand piano and vocals, and with a bunch of other musicians... The Mark & Clark Band - Worn Down Piano: And now for something completely different... Nils Frahm is known for his many collaborations and this one is maybe the one I like most. And, Christian, if you don't have this album yet. go for it! And this time, no other musicians involved. Nils Frahm & Anne Müller - Because This Must Be / Augmentation: ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 07:29
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@Kees: Frahm & Mueller is a fantastic album indeed. I hadn't thought of it but I have it actually. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 08:17
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^^ @Kees, great you are in after all!
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 08:27
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 09:11
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@Mila: I took a day off for this...  @Cristi: Ha, almost forgot about Yazoo; nice to hear them again. Was also thinking about Page & Plant, regarding the famous duos... ...but on the famous side of things we also have Trevor Horn and Geoff Downes: The Buggles - Vermillion Sands: And although less famous, maybe, for Mr and Mrs Smith, they're famous with us Progheads: Bill Bruford and Tony Levin, here with Chris Botti and David Torn. Bruford Levin Upper Extremities - Original Sin: ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 09:31
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Teho Teardo & Blixa Bargeld: A Quiet Life This one I have shared with Anders a while ago and he liked it a lot. I hope he shows up again at some point. It's about time! With the next one I would like to honour the new Academy Award winner Volker Bertelmann aka . . Hauschka & Kai Angermann: Brighton One The two have recently played at the Elbphilharmonie in Hamburg, a concert that had to be postponed due to the pandemic. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 10:05
There is also the Coverdale/Page collaboration, from 1993, really good hard rock/blues-rock album. I think i posted one of their songs in an IP round.
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 10:22
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^^ @Kees, I feel very honoured but I guess this is a joke . . But seriously, we would have missed you!
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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 10:44
Neither option works for me because (I just discovered) I have only one other album by a duo: Andy Summers & Robert Fripp - I Advance Masked, which I don't listen to and therefore am not inclined to post anything from it (I need to connect with the music I post in these polls). As for the instructions to the listener for my first contribution, they are quite easy: listen to the first 11 minutes 37 seconds only. It is fortunate that the tracks are at the beginning of the album. Although my second contribution could have used the same video, I chose not to do that (just in case I manage to find a video of Part 1). ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 11:13
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^ Actually, I didn't consider duos operating under a group name. It turns out that Shamblemaths is a duo. So, I'll submit: Shamblemaths - Shamblemaths - Conglomeration (or: the Grand Pathetic Suite) ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 12:12
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William and Jim Reid. They trade lead vocals. They compose everything. My all-time favorite non-prog band |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 15:49
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I know I have posted a number of things already, but I really wanted to bring in something that (a) isn't on PA, (b) by artists that I haven't played in these polls yet, and (c) is reasonably unknown, and, of course, (d) good. Obviously, the longer these polls go on, the deeper I have to dig, but I found something... Phantom Orchard (Zeena Parkins & Ikue Mori) - Jezebel. Enjoy! |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 23:06
Thanks so much! Indeed, sometimes people are not even aware that some bands are actually duos because they sound so powerful. I believe that thanks to technical means, nowadays smaller combos and solo projects are even trending. Maybe I should add this to the descritpion by including the term "two-piece bands" or similar. - Which Godley & Creme tracks to you want to keep? Btw. do you have another, a bit shorter nichkname? That would make it easier to communicate and also it would be a bit more personal. Otherwise I'll come up with one myself, e.g. Angus, after Angus Young . .  |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: March 28 2023 at 03:08
Helllo and welcome! A great band, indeed! Would you like to participate or are you just sharing your songs? If you want to participate you can suggest another artist or band and I will include them in the poll when the time has come. |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: March 28 2023 at 04:12
I think I'll postpone that decision until nomination.
If you're quoting me, where the forum software does the work of using my full username, making it clear that you are talking to me, then I suppose you can abbreviate my username to "IPD", which others have done in the past. Or you could call me "Mr Time Vaults" (in reference to my avatar). ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: March 28 2023 at 16:05
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 28 2023 at 18:57
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I had this duo in a poll last year, but they are worth another track so I can continue my personal apace theme. Ghost Powrer are Jeremy Novak of Dymaxion and Timothy Gane of Stereolab. Track is Astral Melancholy Suite. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 28 2023 at 19:20
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Getting away from space and to the sea, here is a duo I have not had in these polls. Recorded as Lobo Marino, the duo of Laney Sullivan and Jameson Price now go by the name Holy River and are local to Richmond Virginia. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: March 29 2023 at 01:06
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Here's a playlist for everything up to now. It will be updated as the tracks come in. They are grouped consecutively by participant. Also there is a tracklist in the playlist description (artist only). The playlist has been added to the OP.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 30 2023 at 11:47
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Some of my favourite acts are duos, and there are many duo albums that I like: Both Boards of Canada and Air are two particular favourites. These Trails is another particular one I might mention and Terry Riley and Cale's Church of Anthrax (which I might have nominated my fave track from before). I'll just mention one now since I am so into Boards of Canada currently, and maybe there's a better chance that less people will recognise this than some others I really like (even if they have heard the album before) Boards of Canada - "The Beach at Redpoint' (from Geogaddi, 2002) For those that don't know, the not Canadian but Scottish electronic duo Boards of Canada consists of brothers Michael Peter Sandison and Marcus Eoin Sandison. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: March 30 2023 at 17:13
Nice of you to join us, Greg! Indeed, there are many electronic acts that are duos. There is a separate category for the better-known acts, so don't hesitate to nominate e.g. Air, no matter whether you have recently mentioned them. For the separate category you can nominate one and for the main category up to two tracks.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 31 2023 at 10:40
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Thanks Mila, maybe this could be my better known one: John Cale and Terry Riley - "Church of Anthrax" |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 31 2023 at 11:15
| ^ I know it because someone else had put this up in another Interactive Poll a while back. I don't remember the theme, but I remember it because I had not known it before, liked it a lot, and tried to see if it was on Amazon Music (it was not). But I found a good cover version, which resulted in a new artist in my collection. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 31 2023 at 11:30
| ^ Nice. That was John (Easy Money) in https://www.progarchives.com/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=125655" rel="nofollow - Interactive Poll XXVII: Collaborations Don't Work Wow, over two years ago, how time flies. I remember that that was one of the first to come to my mind then for the topic, but I opted not to mention it because I thought it might too obvious/well-known and, another person might was not to choose it (I knew what I wanted to nominate anyway, then, and in such cases I think it better to leave better known ones off if one knows one is not going to nominate it oneself to give a chance to others). Anyway, it is a great track, imo. Which cover version was that? |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 31 2023 at 12:17
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Cover version by the Unfolk Collective / Alessandro Monti. Here's a link to a 'trailer' of the album with the cover. Parts of the cover are in the trailer. https://youtu.be/X48UwpwFut4" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/X48UwpwFut4 |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 31 2023 at 13:14
| ^ Cheers, I enjoyed listening to that. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 31 2023 at 18:19
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Something different. The comedy rock duo of Danny Sexbang (Dan Avida) and Ninja Brian (Brian Wecht), known as Ninja Sex Party with an epic fantasy tale. The Mystic Crystal. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: March 31 2023 at 22:47
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You are posting some great stuff here, guys! The Easter holidays are round the corner and I'm not sure when I will be able to look for new material again, so I'm posting something now that might fit the group of better known artists/tracks. These girls are shooting stars of the current British indie scene and I guess that some of you may know them already. Maybe too many? I'll see what I can do. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: April 01 2023 at 03:35
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^ Probably a number of people know Chaise Longue but hardly anything else? I've seen their Glastonbury performance, which was great, but haven't explored them further, and I'm not sure whether it's worthwhile to dig deeper. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: April 01 2023 at 17:02
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@Christian Thanks for the feedback! Well this side-category was actually intended for well-known acts that first come to mind, f.e. Greg's "Air" or Cristi's "Yazoo", things like that. I tend more towards contemporary stuff, and also I would like to have more female acts as well.
I could maybe suggest this Norwegian electronic act instead. They are well known in Europe but have been around for quite a while now. Last year they have released a series of three albums titled "Profound Mysteries". The series was released along with collections of short films, each by a different director, and animated visualisations for each track by an Australian artist and designer. For that project they also collaborated with various musicians incl. Alison Goldfrapp and Susanne Sundfor.- But on the other hand, I think that this would also fit well into the main category. Röyksopp: The Ladder
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 01 2023 at 17:22
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Here’s a collaboration of two of my favourite artists (I mostly listen to modern female singer-songwriters these days), Chelsea Wolfe & Emma Ruth Rundle - "Anhedonia” from 2021. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: April 02 2023 at 08:44
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Had a first run through the playlist and it was very enjoyable indeed. I'm afraid I won't have much time to comment, but if I can I will. Most of the famous duos put up here are well appreciated by me; the Wet Leg song did come by a lot on the radio here lately, but I cannot say it really convinces me... ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: April 02 2023 at 17:12
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Mila, please, give me just another day to choose my selection! ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: April 02 2023 at 19:29
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Not a submission, but I came across this collaboration between Fred Frith and Hardy Fox: https://klanggalerie.bandcamp.com/album/a-day-hanging-dead-between-heaven-and-earth" rel="nofollow - A Day Hanging Dead Between Heaven And Earth (link to Bandcamp) I first discovered Fred Frith on a promotional sheet located inside a Residents album. Now we have a musical collaboration between Fred Frith and a Resident. ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: April 03 2023 at 10:49
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INFO Hi everybody, since we are still waiting for Lorenzo's submissions I would like to suggest that we start the nomination period next week after the Easter holidays. This will give you engough time to think about your nominations. Maybe those among you who have suggested more than 2 tracks for the main category (less known artists/tracks) and more than 1 track for the side cathegory (better known artists/tracks) could meanwhile make a preselection and thereby possibly get some feedback, or perhaps someone would like to suggest something else, etc. The participation in the side category is optional. In case there are new forumists who would like to join us, please read the description in my OP on the first page of this thread. Have a good time and see you soon!
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: April 03 2023 at 14:55
I think one of the "less" should be replaced by "better".
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: April 03 2023 at 16:55
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Taken from the Milanese cabaret: 1) Mina & Celentano: Che t'aggia dì (but sung in Neapolitan) 2) Cochi & Renato: E La Vita, La Vita... --------------- SIDE CATEGORY 3) Chapman - Whytney: Tokyo Rose - Hangman https://youtu.be/IwSPZEXHqkY" rel="nofollow - ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: April 03 2023 at 17:54
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^ ^ Thanks, Christian! I was in a bit of a rush.- "Well known" and "better known" artists are of course relative terms in an international context. I thought about specifying that but finally decided to keep it simple.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 03 2023 at 21:04
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So these three will be my nominations. 1. Boards of Canada - "The Beach at Redpoint' (from Geogaddi, 2002) 2. Cedric Victor & Jarboe - "Summoning Tigers in Dark Eden" (off the album Dark Consort from 2008). For a well-known act, but avoiding best known release: 3. Air - "Sex Born Poison" (off the much underrated 10,000 Hz Legend from 2001) The Air duo of Nicolas Godin and Jean-Benoît Dunckel have enlisted others to help with the album but, as often happens with duos and solo artists, this is very much their project. I know that I have shared this before in at least one topic at PA and "Radian" off that album I have nominated before for an Interactive Poll. I do like having both Air and BoC being represented. EDIT: I replaced Chelsea Wolfe & Emma Ruth Rundle - "Anhedonia” (a single release from 2021) with a track from the Cedric Victor & Jarboe collaborative album, Dark Consort (their second collaborative album release). |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 17:41
Thank you, Greg! A nice selection indeed. Is the song above part of a joint album or is it just a single? |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 18:52
I had read your rules and I didn't expect that to be permitted. It was only released as a single.
It does count as an occasional duo, or one time duet for one song. Somehow I was thinking it might just possibly get past "the one album etc." lol I will choose another, and maybe one that is less gloomy (it's about depression). But maybe not much less gloomy. I changed my selection above. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: April 05 2023 at 03:25
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I tend to nominate Phantom Orchard (Zeena Parkins & Ikue Mori) - Jezebel for the less known category and Fripp & Eno - An Index of Metals V for the better known category. I'm also keen to nominate one of the Ex-Can member projects if that is OK for less known, but I haven't yet decided which one. Any input is welcome. I hope come the end of the week I have some more time to listen and maybe comment. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: April 05 2023 at 16:40
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@Christian Go ahead, post your Ex-Can member tracks, the sooner the better but maybe not too many, so you have a chance to get some feedback. I'm planning to start the nominations by the middle of next week.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 03:12
Potential misunderstanding? I was talking about the tracks already posted with Irmin Schmidt, Jaki Liebezeit, Holger Czukay in them.
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 10:37
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@Christian Well, not everyone is as familiar with Can as you are . . So if I am not the only one it might make sense to post their tracks here again, in case you want some feedback. I can do it for you, if you wish.
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 12:29
What are Can compared to Laura Pasini?????  ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 13:21
And what is Laura Pausini compared to Mina?? But seriously, who knows the names of every single member of Can, do you?
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 14:38
I remember the names of 4 out of 6 musicians. Clearly, German names are quite a complication. You want to compare Cochi and Renato? I Love Mina. https://youtu.be/ua9u_AoKxgo
------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 17:50
They are in your playlist though, and on the first page.
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 23:01
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 23:30
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@Lorenzo Both duos are humorous, Cochi & Renato are comedians who can sing and Celentano & Mina are singers who have acting talent. Celentano has starred in quite a few comedies. I did't know Cochi & Renato, though. A great idea to introduce them here, they spice up the mood! Luckily I can understand Italian. Mina is of course a diva of the Italian chanson.
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 23:41
I liked all three. I think my preference goes to the Irmin Schmidt and Kumo collaboration. I like the percussive sounds and textures and then the Holger Czukay v. Dr. Walker. Side question if anyone who knows. Are the spoken word samples from the latter by the same comedy duo that was in the Frontier Psychiatrist piece that Mila had in a previous poll? They sound similar. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: April 07 2023 at 00:10
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So, I think Trent Reznor & Atticus Ross would be my well-known duo nomination. They would be considered that for the movies they have done and winning a couple Oscars, right? Reznor is probably better known for Nine Inch Nails and Ross is a member but most people think of just Reznor. On the other hand, I have nominated them before, although that was 2020! Would Ninja Sex Party be considered well-known? They are on an independent label, but their last few comedy albums have been #1 on the comedy album charts. I am not sure how known they are outside the U.S. The Mystic Crystal video I posted has over 2 million views. I actually heard them first for their covers albums. They have three albums of 70s and 80s pop/rock covers, in which the most covered artist/group was Rush (Subdivisions, Madrigal. Closer to the Heart, Limelight). Besides Mystic Crystal, they have one other 'epic' proggish number (6969) which was clearly inspired by Rush's 2112, even using a line from 2112. Most of their humor is about getting laid with the music originally being mostly synth-pop but expanded over the years as they brought in TWRP (Tupper Ware Remix Party) as their backing band. On their own, TWRP are a Canadian comedy rock band. I put out a good number of duos, so any input on who to nominate would help. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: April 11 2023 at 11:09
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So, I guess Mila is still busy searching Easter eggs, which leaves me the time to get to my nominations... For the lesser known duos I go with Nils Frahm & Anne Müller - Because This Must Be / Augmentation. For the better known, although - musically - I prefer the Bruford/Levin collaboration, I'm curious what the Buggles will do in a poll on these boards... so: Buggles - Vermillion Sands.
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: April 12 2023 at 13:16
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@Kees I'm still nibbing at my chocolate Easter bunnies and eggs but still managed to take a look at the progress of the poll from time to time.
_______________________ INFO Hey guys, I hope you all enjoyed your Easter holidays?! I have given you some time in view of the nominations so that you can possibly help each other with the selection. But as it seems you've all been rather busy in the last few days including myself. I will post the list of suggestions tomorrow and would like to encourage you once again to comment briefly on the suggestions of those who have not yet been able to make up their minds (see previous posts). I'm planning to put up the poll by the weekend if that's ok with you? |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: April 13 2023 at 19:00
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This is what I have so far: (main category/less-known: no. 1+2; side-category/better-known: no. 3)
Nominations Greg 1
Boards of Canada: The Beach at Redpoint 2
Cedric Victor & Jarboe: Summoning Tigers in Dark Eden 3
Air: Sex Born Poison Lorenzo 1
Mina & Celentano: Che t'aggia dì 2 Cochi & Renato: E la vita, la vita... 3 Chapman, Whitney: Tokyo Rose/Hangman IPD 1
Godley & Cream: Seascape/Wind/Fireworks/Stampede (00:00 - 11:37) 2
Godley & Cream: Blint's Tune (Movements 1-17) 3 Shamblemaths: Conglomeration (The Grand Pathetic Suite) Kees 1
Nils Frahm & Anne Müller: Because This Must Be / Augmentation 2 ? 3 Buggles: Vermillion Sands Which is your second track for the main category?
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Remina: The Endless City Yazoo:
Nobody’s Diary Page
& Plant: Blue Train Which
of the last two tracks do you consider less or better-known respectively? George 1
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? 3 Trent Reznor & Atticus Ross: Juno Christian 1
Phantom Orchard (Zeena Parkins & Ikue Mori): Jezebel 2
Ex-Can member projects. Which one? 3
Fripp & Eno: An Index of Metals V Mila 1
Teho Teardo & Blixa Bargeld 2 Hauschka, Kai Angermann: Brighton One 3 ? (yet to be decided) |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: April 13 2023 at 19:33
| For my first two slots, I will nominate Lobos Marino - We Hear the Ocean and Ninja Sex Party - The Mystic Crystal. Two different acts. I thought about Ghost Power but had them in poll just last year. Maybe some other time for the Claypool Lennon Delirium. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 13 2023 at 20:45
I like all of the got-off-the-can ones, but I tend to favour the way you ordered them. I could go either way when it comes to "Irmin Schmidt & Kumo" and "Holger Czukay vs. Dr. Walker" but I'm favouring Irmin Schmidt & Kumo (cloud or spider?) right now. While in Japan, the head teacher of the school I worked at who had limited English told me to watch out for poison kumo in the area where my apartment was. She told me I should be okay because I live on a higher floor floor and because of my height/ size. There were smokestacked ominous factories (rather like in the beginning of Blade Runner seeing the city from a Spinner) in view from from my flat, and I thought it was a ground level and very low lying poison cloud/ fog (kumo) coming from those which my head would be above when walking. Quite stupid of course, I did not yet know that kumo meant spider as well as cloud. Turns out some palm trees had been imported and planted from Australia at a local park which contained redback spiders (similar to Black Widow spiders) and are generally not very dangerous to adults. Not an entertaining anecdote, unlike the entertainment derived by listening to the ex-Can members music. "Hot off the Can" would be a good name for an album, imo. With Kees, the only other one I see posted by him is The Mark & Clark Band - Worn Down Piano (the first he mentioned), so unless specified otherwise, I would assume that will be his other nomination. Since George decided his ones above, I guess that just leaves Mila for me not addressed as an undecided.... Mila: I much prefer Röyksopp - The Ladder over Wet Leg (just much more my style). Really like that. I sot of see The Ladder as an interesting one up against my Boards of Canada choice and "Irmin Schmidt & Kumo" as an interesting one to compare to my Cedric Victor & Jarboe - "Summoning Tigers in Dark Eden" choice. But that may just be me. |
Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: April 14 2023 at 04:01
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A couple of Prog collaborations that work for me: Anderson/Stolt - 'Invention' from 'Invention Of Knowledge' And a guilty pleasure Ed & Denyze Alleyne-Johnson - 'Fly Before Dawn' from 'Fly before Dawn' |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 14 2023 at 04:12
I don't know how to answer your question. it depends who you ask. Someone who likes 80s music and synth-pop would know Yazoo. Led Zeppelin fans and people that enjoy classic rock and hard rock would be familiar with the Page & plant album. So if we have to choose 2 songs, my final nominations are Remina and Page/Plant. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: April 14 2023 at 04:34
You got me smiling there at least.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 14 2023 at 10:03
A more affable title than ELP's In the Hot Seat, imo, and I'm sure unlike ELP's, it wouldn't be a train-wreck of an album (such uncanny talent from those Can people). ^^ I did not know Yazoo that I recall, but really liked the track, and while I consider Page and Plant as individuals to be household names from my background, I don't think the song or album is hugely known. I loved that track. Looking at ratings elsewhere, one could go either way for the side-category (better-known). I don't know which song is better known, but the earlier Yazoo album is better-known. My inclination would have been to put Page & Plant in the better known, as I didn't know better, but I too don't know. Mila: We had eight, which times three makes a nice 24, but Ronstein has chimed in too. If you want to put all three of mine on the same line with ORs (this or this or that), I'm fine with that, to accommodate all others threesomes (if I got how this was planned to be done if space available). The votes aren't really that important to me in and of themselves -- just happy to have mine in the playlist. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: April 14 2023 at 17:40
You
are absolutely right, better known is a relative term. Initially I wanted to specify
that a little in the description but then decided to keep it simple. I would
say that better known here refers to artists or releases that are or were very
successful internationally and to those that are very popular among prog fans.
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have two categories. For the main category (probably) less known artists or
releases you can nominate two tracks and for the side category you can nominate
one track. Therefore you could also bring Yazoo if you like. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: April 14 2023 at 18:31
Thanks Greg! I'm happy that more people are joining in. I'm interested in having my two tracks for the main categry. I can easily do without the track for the side category. Maybe 'I prophesy disaster' could offer another spot to Ronstein since he (IPD) has suggested two entries by the same band for the main category? Or maybe someone else incl. Ronstein could offer one of their three spots in the poll? _________________________ Thanks a lot for your comments including my side-category suggestions! I will reply to you a bit later because it is already very late over here.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 15 2023 at 02:30
I highlighted my choices.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 15 2023 at 05:58
Thanks so much for the appreciative posting. It 4:30 am here now, too early to be up on a weekend. I expect that some might growl about one of my two entries in the "main category" but as Tony the Tiger (a cereal mascot) might say, "It's Grrreat!" He might be the only one to say that, but I like it with the other two. I wasn't convinced that Andy (Ronstein) was mentioning those officially for inclusion in the future poll, rather than just some favourites, but I like Andy and would like his inclusion in the proceedings. If I'm not mistaken, and I often am, it looks like Cristi is only going with two of his suggestions -- one from the main category (lesser/ little known) and one from the side category (better known or known well). |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 15 2023 at 06:47
^ It seems I have misunderstood the nominating in this round. I thought we choose two songs. I posted three songs. What mistake am i making here? 
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 15 2023 at 07:02
We choose two songs in the main category, which is for lesser known ones, and one song in the side-category for better known ones. You can go go with all three of yours, but then decide which two you want as the "main category" ones and which one you choose as the "side-category" choice (I might go with the Yazoo as one of my two main category choices and Page and Plant as my one side-category choice, but I don't know which song is better known). I really enjoyed both tracks (from Yazoo and Page and Plant), so would be pleased to see you including both. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 15 2023 at 07:10
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^ But I would also like people to listen to the Remina song, it's a great new band with a lot of talent, with an amazing vocalist ( https://metalstorm.net/bands/bandmember.php?member_id=47031" rel="nofollow - Heike Langhans ) So is it two songs, three songs? I'm confused.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 15 2023 at 07:23
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^ It's three songs total (2 and one). Two songs for the main category, and one song for the side-category. Remina would be in the main category, and you have to decide between the others which should be in the main category (lesser known) and which should be in the side-category (better-known). Hope this helps.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 15 2023 at 07:25
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so main category - Remina and Page & Plant second category - Yazoo. is it correct now?
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 15 2023 at 07:30
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Or Main Category: Remina and Yazoo Side-Category: Page & Plant It's up to you where you want to put Yazoo and Page & Plant in terms of the categories. I'd put the song that I think would be better-known in the side-category, if you think that might well be the Yazoo, then yahoo!
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 15 2023 at 07:32
it doesn't matter if all three songs are to be used, does it?!
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 15 2023 at 07:49
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^ Well, I think it does, or at least potentially does, which is why Mila asked you about it before "Which of the last two tracks [the two not Remina] do you consider less or better-known respectively." From the OP:
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 15 2023 at 07:51
ok so Remina and Page & Plant - main category Yazoo - side category.
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: April 15 2023 at 08:19
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Main Category: Mina & Celentano: Che t'aggia dì Cochi & Renato: E La Vita, La Vita... --------------- SIDE CATEGORY Chapman - Whytney: Tokyo Rose - Hangman ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: April 15 2023 at 08:55
Quite rightly assumed so. ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: April 15 2023 at 09:28
Hi Andy, nice to see you here! Would you like to participate in this poll, that is shall I include your tracks in the poll? I'm planning to put up the poll this weekend, so pls. let me know asap.
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: April 15 2023 at 10:16
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Mila, if you need an extra poll slot, you can discard my Buggles nomination... (I think the lesser known nominations - in general - are more interesting to keep). ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: April 15 2023 at 13:32
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^ Thank you Kees, that's very kind of you! I pm-ed Andy and am waiting for his reply. Either way I would like to start the poll tomorrow around noon because many of us are most likely to find time to listen to the songs on weekends. I will gladly get back to you if necessary.
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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: April 15 2023 at 14:41
Actually, I'd like to submit a track from the Fred Frith and Hardy Fox album: Fred Frith and Hardy Fox - Who Will Release Me? (from 1:17 to 4:59 of the entire album) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BM3dRuoDtA&t=77s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BM3dRuoDtA&t=77s or as an embedded video of the entire album: ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |