Interactive Poll 3some: 3 Tracks for 3 Decades
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Topic: Interactive Poll 3some: 3 Tracks for 3 Decades
Posted By: Logan
Subject: Interactive Poll 3some: 3 Tracks for 3 Decades
Date Posted: August 25 2022 at 21:41
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Interactive Poll Number 3 Decades and 3 Nominations per Person In this interactive poll, each person will nominate three tracks, and each track will come from a different decade. The decades need not be sequential. Each song/track should be representative of the decade somehow, but how you interpret that is quite open-ended. You can think about what styles were popular then, what you were hearing then, and what makes you associate the choice stylistically with the decade. I would ask that you avoid Prog choices, but one of three is acceptable. I've hoped for some considerable variety from each person, like as an example I used in the last poll, for one person's three choices, consider not having the 70s represent Baby Fuzz Metal (aka Proto-Hair Metal), the 80's be full on Hair Metal, and in later decades it be Bald Metal (otherwise know as Post Hair Metal) if they all ultimately sound much the same except some are hairier than others. I say this because aside from having three nominations per individual, which will each have its separate poll option, another big difference with this poll is that people will vote for one track from each person (other than themselves) that participates, and I hope that everyone will find something to be enthusiastic about from each person's selection. That said, they don't have to be really different, and one might want to explore the evolution of hair metal or dance music. That is up to you. Note: If we go over eight participants, then I will find some additional way to tally the results from the write-ins and adjust the poll. When it comes time to voting, please post your favourite track of each participant, and also write even a very short note about why it appeals (or appeals the most of the three). So here are the guidelines: 1. Mention, with youtube embeds or bandcamp links etc., three tracks. Each of your tracks should come from a different decade and please post the year of release or recording (no archival releases from later decades). Please add a short note about some things you associate the decade with including something that each track (or artist at the time) represents from the decade to you from a stylistic or thematic perspective. Consider music that sounds of its era or has qualities of the time; not necessarily dated so much as music that you'd still like to take on a date.... I say instead of going for pure retro. And please avoid ones you consider to be Prog, although one of three of you choices as prog is acceptable. 2. You can post as many trios as you like, just plan to have your nominated trio decided on by Monday, September 5th. 3. Each track will get its own entry (how I do this will depend on how many participate). 4. When voting, you will be expected to vote for one track from every participant other than yourself. So every person should get the same number of votes overall, but certain selections by people are expected to get more votes than others. 5. When you vote for one track by each participant (other than yourself) please post what you chose of the three and post even a short note about why you went for that one, what appeals to you about it, or write something about the track instead of just posting the name of the track (do that for each of your votes)... Have fun. I decided to go with the 60s, 80s, and 90s. Here are my selections and what I associate each decade with in terms of fashions, genres... The 1960s is the age of psychedelia, love-ins, groovy times, some existential dread mixed with the wanton sex, miniskirts, ooh-la-la, baroque pop, and lovely French singers with a certain je ne sais quoi. Claude Lombard - Les Enfants Perle (1969) www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z74LvXUqJ0I" rel="nofollow - www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z74LvXUqJ0I When I think of the 80s, I think of New Wave, Post-Punk, music videos, pastels, Miami Vice, New Age, gothic music, and dreamy pop music. Cocteau Twins - Ivo (1984) www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF8fnsyjCoI" rel="nofollow - www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF8fnsyjCoI For the 1990s I think of grunge, body piercings, clubs, house music, folktronica, indietronica, neofolk and neo-psychedelia, a retro lounge and retro 60s feel (sort of a revival of styles), groove, laid back and cool music, indie music, and trip-hop. Portishead - Over (1997) www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bADn4V4W2o" rel="nofollow - www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bADn4V4W2o Note: I know that there is a poll where various people have not voted yet, so this is overlapping in a way, but I wanted to give people a chance to think about what they want to post and to give people the weekend to get started if they choose. Here is the youtube playlist for the all of the entries/ mentions (I mentioned more than anyone else): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4J5JvgpK6w4NjxVJ2SL4gFB" rel="nofollow - CLICk for all mentions Here is the youtube playlist for the nominations: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4Jtdnwn-ZsJgpG_sm9bEzDa" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4Jtdnwn-ZsJgpG_sm9bEzDa Voting is now open. Thanks for participating. |
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: August 26 2022 at 05:14
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Yeah! Decades...! 80s...!  Oh no... I don't dance... Still... Nena !  (you asked for it, didn't you?)She and I are Indians: strong and smart (well, she at least...). Nena - Indianer: (English translation of the lyrics can be found https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/nena/indianer.html" rel="nofollow - here ) Then, let's forget the 90s. I didn't listen to music then ("Liar!" I hear you shouting - and you're right, of course...). In 2002 I moved to France and discovered this French band; they had a major hit that year. I had never heard of them, but they are one of the few French bands or artists here that can fill a stadium (last May the gathered more than 97.000 people in the Stade de Fance). Their 2002 album, Paradize, is quite good. This track is from that album. Indochine - Comateen I (English translation of the lyrics can be found https://lyricstranslate.com/en/comateen-i-comateen-i.html" rel="nofollow - here ) So, let's skip the 2010s; I didn't listen to...(oh, there he goes again...) Since those famous 90s, when prog became boring (oh oh... *seeking shelter*) I started to explore more contemporary (classical) music, experimental music, avant-garde. In the beginning of the 2010s a film making friend of mine pointed me to two wonderful record labels: Miasmah and Sonic Pieces. Since then they regularly enrich my record collection (they share an https://www.mi-so-store.com/" rel="nofollow - online record-shop nowadays). From the Miasmah label an artist that I presented here before (with Roadmap). This one is from his 2020 album (which was six years in the making, so it also belongs to the previous decade) The Log and the Leeway. Kaboom Karavan - The Karavel: So, this selection goes from my poppy 80s me - when I was still a silly boy (  ) and limitless in love with Nena ( again) - just before I bought my first vinyl, which was 90125, and got much more intelligent since then ( - he doesn't stop) - via my rocky me (all decades, actually) to my what-label-could-we-stick-on-that me.------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 26 2022 at 08:44
^ All three of your selections were excellent listening to my ears.  (we should have a house emoticon with a bigger thumb) Thanks, Kees.
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: August 26 2022 at 17:27
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Great poll, Greg! Just let me think for a sec, I'll be back soon. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 26 2022 at 18:05
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1994: Shudder To Think's Hit Liquor actually gives a nod or two to King Crimson, but they're very much their own unique band. 2001: The time of the "New Hamburg School", a wave of bands from my hometown with their own sound. I still love Kante's Ituri - it was a key song in the love story I had at the time. In the little pub You're standing behind the bar I look around I haven't been here for a long time Still there's everything as it was Up the stairs Supposedly somebody lives there, And waits for something throughout his whole life I come to you You ask how I am I tell you about the things I'm trying to do You don't ask questions And look into my eyes As if they were telling you This is not what I wanted After a dreamless night You wake up With the same concerns And the same questions As every day Are you thinking of tomorrow? And you think of yesterday And you think: I've changed I go to work And work for eight hours All eight of them are badly paid Later again at home And something in me asks As if I'd forgotten What was it that I wanted? You come to me From the other room Your gaze is on me I say: give me time We look at each other And we understand each other Because that's why We are together (Power) In the first days of 2020, ex-Comsat Angels singer Stephen Fellows unexpectedly published his first album after more than 20 years. Not sure whether it should count for the 2010s or 2020s really, and actually it is a bit fallen out of time. A great if somewhat subdued start to the terrible Covid year; this was the music to guide me through it. |
Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: August 26 2022 at 18:32
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Like this? 1960s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S1Cuekbklkg" rel="nofollow - Jan and Dean - Dead Man’s Curve 1970s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vpFfjWdhROU" rel="nofollow - Nicolette Larson - Lotta Love 1980s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b9xBAtCsCTQ" rel="nofollow - Trans-X - Living On Video |
Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: August 26 2022 at 19:04
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Or this? 1960s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu42oqeA69c" rel="nofollow - Mechanical Man - Bent Bolt and the Nuts 1970s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ0gobSHgIs" rel="nofollow - Indian Reservation - The Raiders 1980s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sXatoCG13tw" rel="nofollow - Anxiety - Pat Benatar |
Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: August 26 2022 at 19:20
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Or this? 1960s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bl9bvuAV-Ao" rel="nofollow - Magic Bus - The Who 1970s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TugNZU8rUVE" rel="nofollow - Eastbound and Down - Jerry Reed 1980s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p98PjtSfNWo" rel="nofollow - There’s Something Going On - Anni-Frid Lyngstad |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 26 2022 at 23:57
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^ ^ ^^^ Hey Gary, Any of those trios would be fine per the basic idea of choosing three tracks from three decades, and the decades need not be sequential. I noticed that for each of your three posts asking whether those trios would be fine, they all cover the same decades. Without listening through the music or getting your write-up on each, I can't say how well each choice represents the decade (objectively or subjectively) or how you associate it beyond that it came out at that time, but I trust people's judgment on that, and if it works for you, then I'm fine with it. I do ask that people give a little write-up to go with each track to say something about how it relates to the decade, or its significance to the decade to you. For my trio in the first post, I said something about what styles and things each decade represents to me, and part of that anyway fit my musical choices (the last part of each little write-up particularly). Myself, Suitkees and Lewian have all approached the write-up rather differently, and I like that. Mila had suggested (In the last Interactive Poll) when I mentioned my base idea that they should represent the decade somehow beyond just being released than, and I agree, and thought the write-up would be fun to go into that while providing plenty of latitude since it is so up to individual interpretation. I might re-write the OP to make it clearer on the expectations, I put that together hastily. Also, for youtube, we tend to use embeds (I know that can slow things down, but three per post ain't too bad, I find). And on another note, while I said that people could present as many trios as they like (or just one trio), I would still discourage presenting several trios in short order (I thought about making rule in the OP on this), although in your case you were asking if each of those worked. While for this round it is not mandatory to listen to and or/comment on any selections until we get to the voting stage, since we commonly do listen to and comment on each other's selections (a reason why this is interactive) and chat about them, then I would suggest spacing your trios. A lot can get overwhelming. I made a playlist and I too like it when we we get three from one person, then three from another (mixes things up). After the poll is up, then ALL participants are expected to listen to or have listened to all the nominated tracks (three per decade per person) and vote for one track from each participant others than themselves So that is an overlong long way basically say, I think that each of your trios is probably fine, but the presentation would need some work (though you might well have already realised that but didn't want to put the time in until checking that the basic idea was being met, or were being somewhat rhetorical, in which case I very much apologise for being so verbose). I was a little confused with you three posts to be honest, because it seemed like all three examples that you asked about were presented so similarity, and with the "or" questions I would expect more apparent differences, but I tend to overthink things in a way that they end up being not thought through enough in the intended way too often. Glad or hope to have you onboard, Gary. I hope you intend to stay through the process until voting time. By the way, is your first trio your favourite of those you mentioned? For now I just want to add one of your trios to the playlist. Doesn't mean that I won't add all of the trios eventually. --------------------------------------------------------- As a general note: While I don't expect much interest in this, especially from the non Interactive Poll regulars, and they know the deal anyway, I would ask any who mention music and don't intend to participate in the full process to let me know in advance. I might still find away to include those who can't fully participate in the nominating and voting process (and remember, like I ask for notes to go with the selections, I also ask for some notes to go with the votes). It's fun to do things a little differently across polls with different expectations. |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: August 27 2022 at 01:30
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^ Honestly, I agree with everything you’ve said, Greg - apart from one thing. I’ve never understood the desire for embeds. So long as it’s a working link, I don’t see the problem. I would definitely prefer it if there were not embeds, because (even if not dramatically) it does still slow things down to the point where the page simply won’t load for me. I don’t think this is a problem with the embeds, per se, so much as PA. I never have a problem loading any other website, but no matter what browser I use, PA is slow to respond and load even if text only. As soon as there are embeds (no matter how few) it seems to be a 50/50 chance whether or not the page will load or time out. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 27 2022 at 02:07
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^ It's good to be reminded that embeds can be such a problem for people. I don't have problems with using working links commonly, and quite often, but not often enough, use those in topics. I have always had very good internet service (helps with my job) in an area with good services and decent equipment, and lots of embeds have not been an issue for me, but I know it often can be for others. While I would not expect or require embeds here, I think one reason why many prefer and it is so common is a sort of convenience (though we love playlists at the end). I am more likely to want to play a track (and comment on it) if I see it as an embed here than if I click on the link. That said, I just went through all of Scott's youtube "Robot" playlist and I followed a link to youtube for it. Laziness, in part. Also, although I use adblockers and don't get youtube ads (naughty me) and one can alter the link to avoid ads, playing embeds is one way that people avoid ads. If on a mobile, and one doesn't have Youtube Premium (I pay for that for my eldest child but have never used it myself), if you are listening to music someone linked to on youtube while writing commentary on it on the same mobile device (like an android phone) then one has to know about putting youtube in desktop mode so you can listen while not on the youtube page. Anyway, I really should consider getting out of the habit of embedding so much and for people like you (many have issues) it would be good to consider avoiding embeds. By the way, all pages have been very slow and unreliable for me to load at PA this evening. I have been getting many time-outs of late. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: August 27 2022 at 06:41
| Last night. PA was horrible for loading time for me too. I gave up or I would have posted here. Seems better today. Will pop in later. |
Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: August 27 2022 at 09:50
hi Logan! Thanks for the clarifications. The problem with the embedding was that I simply couldn't do it. I tried many times and each time I was getting an error message. Maybe it is because I am using a phone. Perhaps someone could do that for me using the links I provided? Regarding each song, I am happy to share some information from my churning memories. You are welcome to use any, all, or even none of the sets that have sprung from the depths of my neocortex. First set Jan and Dean - Dead Man's Curve: Before I got into Prog (starting with Styx har har ... what good times!), I was heavily into the surf sound - especially The Beach Boys and Jan & Dean. I always thought this song had a haunting aspect, and then I later watched a movie on this duo. Later on, Jan would be involved in a near-fatal collision (though not on Dead Man's Curve - which is an urban legend). Surfer music was actually a major contributor to the Prog sound. This song exudes the sounds of the 50s and early 60s and makes one think of cars with air foils and chrome diners. Nicolette Larson - Lotta Love: This one exemplifies the 70s. Coming out of the hippy age, there were a number of atmospheric songs (Steely Dan had several, and Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty come to mind). This song, however, is pure heart and sadly, Nicolette Larson would pass away due to cancer at a young age. She has such a lovely voice and there is a nice flute solo in there too. To me, the 1970s atmosphere from the songwriting of this one could never be replicated today. Trans-X - Living On Video: If any song could exemplify the excesses and go-all-out experimentation of the 80s with electronic music, it is this song. This song begs ... please put me on MTV! It is quirky ... imaginative (thinking of a computer fairy world - that's virtual reality, folks!) ... and it is heavily infused with enough lasers to battle the Empire. _________________________________________________ Second set: Bent Bolt and the Nuts - Mechanical Man: I have no idea where I heard this song, but I had it in my head from when the time when I was a kid. I eventually searched the internet and rediscovered it. As a child who enjoyed anything even remotely sci-fi, I'm sure I enjoyed the robot sounds, probably some sort of vocoder, that makes one think of Dr. Who Daleks. It also has that 50s/60s vibe. The Raiders - Indian Reservation: There are a number of socially conscious songs from the 70s. This one exudes an anger and sadness that will make the hairs on your arm stand up. It received quite a bit of radio airplay back in the day. Anxiety - Pat Benatar: This song gets into my head from time to time when I'm feeling anxious, usually about my job. The video is very 1980s with its wonderful cheesy effects and cookie cutter characters. And, that hair! Like any Top 40 type of song (think Casey Kasem), it probably went as quickly as it came. Nevertheless, it is catchy in all the best 1980s ways. _________________________________________________________________________ Third set The Who - Magic Bus: Before Jimmy Hendrix sprung onto the British scene, Pete Townshend reigned as guitar hero, with his windmill strumming. This song has an opening that rages 1960s rock, with those crunchy chops. Back in the day, nothing got me moving like the opening to Magic Bus. Jerry Reed - Eastbound and Down: I had to toss a coin between this song and Convoy, but in the end I had to go with the guitarist who previously worked with Elvis. Just watch the video. That guy is pure Country Rock. If I could play like that, I'd switch genres. This one brings back memories of the urban cowboy scene, with its chase movies (Burt Reynolds and Clint Eastwood), CB radio and all the trucker jargon (We got a Willy Weaver at our Back Door, 10-4 good buddy), and 70s Farrah Fawcett hairdos. Anni-Frid Lyngstad - There’s Something Going On: For those who are esoteric, Anni-Frid Lyngstad of Abba fame did a song with Phil Collins of Genesis fame, and the result was one of the most hauntingly beautiful songs of the 1980s. Others include Harden My Heart by Quarterflash, Only the Lonely & Suddenly, Last Summer by the Motels, Voices Carry by 'Til Tuesday, Betty Davis Eyes by Kim Carnes, and Total Eclipse of the Heart by Bonnie Tyler. But, it is this one that I chose because the vocals are especially poignant. The guitar and percussion are tight (of course - it is Phil Collins - what else can you say?), and the guitar sound is perfect. The guitar solo is nothing like an Yngwie Malmsteen or a Van Halen, but it flawlessly captures the pure angst of the quirky 80s sound. The artistry of that solo fits the song perfectly. When this song comes on, everyone stops, the antenna from your head pops out, and you can't help but say. Oh yeah! I love that song. Of course you do. Anni-Frid Lyngstad only sung on a bazillion of some of the most famous songs ever written. That's why they called one of their albums "The Magic of Abba". So, yes, while one could include just about any Abba song as representative of the 1970s, I chose to go with the pure nostalgia of this 1980s chart crusher. |
Logan wrote:Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 27 2022 at 10:25
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^ Those are excellent write-ups. Thanks! Nick raised a good point about not using embeds, and I didn't mean people should do that, only that it's common practice. My comment on presentation really had to do with adding the write-ups, where you have exceeded any and all expectations. That really connects me more with an experience of listening and makes it all the more exciting and enjoyable to me seeing such perspectives (provokes a strong empathetic response). Beautifully expressed, really warms my heart and piques my interest. ^^ And George, yes, hopefully some of The Kinks will be ironed out in the site. Instead of time-out now, however, I keep getting lacking permission messages to post and quick your session has expired even if it only take me a few minutes to prepare a resposnse and try to post it. |
Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: August 27 2022 at 11:36
Thank you! I enjoyed doing it. Brings back fond memories of a vanished time. 
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: August 27 2022 at 20:28
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Ideal: Blaue Augen (1980) Out of competition. Replaced by the following band: The Young Gods: Kissing the Sun (1995) The Young Gods are a three-piece industrial rock band from Geneva, formed in 1985. The band's music is largely based on sampling and sound manipulation. In their later releases they incorporated elements of ambient and electronic music such as in particular on their 1995 album "Only Heaven". Through their innovative sample-based approach to rock music they gained international spotlight which is relatively rare for a Swiss band. Dawda Jobarthe & Stefan Pasborg: A Change Has Come (2016) A collaboration between
Danish drummer/bandleader Pasborg and Gambian kora player Jobarteh who is
currently based in Denmark. We have heard other kora players here before but he takes it to new levels. Johanna Burnheart: Silence is Golden (2020) J.B. is a German violinist, singer and composer. She makes music at the point where jazz and techno meet. She's now based in London. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 27 2022 at 21:22
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^ I'm okay with what you choose if you are. And you can choose to nominate something different later on, or change one of you entries if you want. I like quite a bit of techno and would like to hear more hip hop, may be you will get the chance to mention some of those here too. Having briefly checked out both your 2016 and 2020 tracks, I really like both a lot (as one might guess). Glad you got a chance to join in, Mila. Gonna listen to 2020 one now in full just for pure enjoyment. And Gary, the older I get the more nostalgic (as is common, but I was feeling nostalgic when I was seven). :) |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: August 27 2022 at 21:31
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I am thinking about another trio later as I don't think this trio will necessarily fit with the tastes of the regulars, though I do understand that's not the point. I am sharing what I like. I'll be less long-winded if I post another triple-shot. I am going to go with songs from the decades that I enjoyed at the time (and still do) that I associate with that decade both personally and musically. In doing that, I need to skip the 70’s. While I lived through the decade, I was ages 3 to 12 and my earliest recollection of music is listening to kid's tunes (think Disney). Then when I got my first clock radio, AM easy listening hits (think Barry Manilow, Neil Diamond, Andy Gibb). Towards the end of the 70’s, I started listening to FM and rock radio, so Styx and Rush come to mind as the earliest rock bands, and I had a classmate who was into AC/DC and Ozzy, so I started listening to them. Where I grew up, most middle school boys were into hard rock, so I went with the crowd. But all that is well known stuff. 80’s started and there was MTV, which I loved and that had hard rock, but also a good amount new wave and some lesser known stuff as they needed whatever content they could get. As the decade moved on, much more in popular icons (Madonna, Michael Jackson, Prince) showed up on MTV. I also got exposed to prog through a local FM radio show that every Sunday night played the "best in progressive rock and jazz fusion" (emphasized as separate genres as there usually was a jazz fusion segment in the show). I was still listening to a decent of share of metal (Dio, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden). So, for the 80’s, I'm going with an American power metal band from L.A. that didn’t have much success but did get a video with decent airplay on MTV. My college roommate and I would crank it up out of our dorm room. Released in 1985, they did have the big hair, but instead of the sex/sleaze of hair metal, they had a sci-fi theme to their music. Their outfits, as seen in the video, were designed by the costume designer for Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982). All that seems 80’s to me. I still crank this one out every now and then. Good music for the highway. Warrior – Fighting for the Earth (1985) Now moving on to the 90’s. First half of the 90’s, I lived in San Diego, and there was a vibrant local music scene that was somewhat tainted by record executives (and bands) searching for the ‘next Seattle scene.’ And I would guess the biggest success from that time would be Stone Temple Pilots, except they were from Long Beach but would often go down to San Diego and play shows and were part of the ‘San Diego scene,’ which made for a good story, if anything. They played often enough and was the 1992 local artist of the year in a reader poll. (I think Jewel was the winner the year before and she was from Alaska.) In any case, it worked for them and there were a mix actual local bands and bands from L.A. playing and there was a signing frenzy of San Diego bands. Stone Temple Pilots played a showcase show in San Diego and got a record deal that night from Atlantic Records. The opening band also got a deal that same night. This band I had seen a number of times and liked them. They were signed in 1992, was local artist of the year the following year, had a mini-LP released by Atlantic, and would tour opening for Tool. Then I moved away. Though they played the side stages at Lollapolooza and other festivals, I just assumed they got dropped as not full length album came up, but I was released in 1996, and probably a few years too late. When it comes to the 90’s, I think grunge, alternative rock, shoe-gaze, trip-hop, electronica.... And I will go with alternative rock by Rust, the band that got signed with Stone Temple Pilots. This song had a video, which I can't find, that got some airplay on MTV. Overall, I thought it was a solid album. I think it’s very indicative alternative 90’s rock. Rust – Not Today (1996) By the end of 90’s, I was getting back into prog, largely in part to Porcupine Tree. I also got engaged, married, and a kid through the 2000’s and wasn’t really exploring much in terms of new music. Most ‘new’ music I got were recent releases from bands that I listened to previously (Rush, Porcupine Tree, Tool, Marillion). I did separate and eventually divorce in the 10’s and discovered Prog Archives, so I was back into seeking new and old music. I really can’t say what music is truly indicative of the 10’s generally, but personally, it was getting back into prog and other music. So, I’ll take something from that, and of the types of music I discovered for my tastes was the whole stoner/psychedelic/space branch of rock. Missed that in the 2000’s though I did get some Queens of the Stone Age, as I one of my favorite 90’s hard rock (stoner rock) bands was Kyuss. Also, in the 10’s, I started using Bandcamp. So, one of the first bands I found on Bandcamp of the stoner/psychedelic/space branch is Mantra Machine. They are on PA but with less than 10 ratings overall. This tune is from their debut full length, Nitrogen (1 rating). Mantra Machine – Andromeda (2014) |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: August 28 2022 at 16:17
I'm glad you enjoyed those two tracks! I've got plenty of material but unfortunately little time atm. But maybe I'll still manage to post something else during the week. Let's see. :) |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 28 2022 at 17:15
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^ Mila. And there is next weekend if you're free, I posted the first three things that came to mind to be honest with much thought. I might post another trio soon. My desire would be to do dozens as each trio comes to mind (I can be too impulsive). ^^ George: as you say about it fitting with other's tastes. I like to get to know what other people like, and this time as each person will get the same total number of votes (of it works correctly), one's three songs are only competing against each other really (not that we treat it as a competition at any time). I kind of liked the idea that there might be less impetus to please others due to the selection process that commonly goes on in these polls -- not just the past two polls, but when people have said their preferences and that has influenced one's decisions on nominations. Excellent post, I really enjoyed reading that. I knew that Warrior -- (lol I say in a nice, happy nostalgic way) -- very representative. Shame Cristi has not been a regular, I think that would have been very much up the right alley, I think that's a terrific list and I love how they represent the decades and your descriptions. Besides that, I like Rust and my favourite of yours is the Mantra Machine. Great job.And sorry for not having commented on yours, Gary yet, or Christian's where I thought I had, but I guess I only listened. I say this because I did comment on some others. Excellent jobs, people, it truly is very much appreciated. EDIT: Gary, I listened to your first mentioned trio and definitely each one feels very much of its time (easy to connect the style and sound with the period). Enjoyable, I liked the 60s one the most. In the end, I guess., consider going for the trio of yours to nominate that you like best/ find most interesting. Be it sounding very much of its time or having more timeless qualities (provided one can link it sufficiently with the era/decade beyond when it was made. One concern that crossed my my mind with my choices was that while I wanted to be able to say, even briefly something about how I associate it with its time, but I also didn't want it to seem too dated in a way. That said, I think dated can be super cool and love listening to plenty of music that is very clearly rooted in its era. And sometimes felt a certain sadness that such styles fell out of fashion -- although I find later ones that do draw on those dated styles for inspiration, and I love that. When I do another trio, and I will, I have to have a loungey exotica or tropica piece, which will probably be library music. And something very early James Bondy spy thriller styled would be cool. EDIT 2: Christian: From your selections, I really loved Kante's Ituri. That's one that not only would take it for me from your trio, but in a normal Interactive Poll where we vote for three of the total selections, I definitely would expect it to get my vote. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 29 2022 at 03:16
I had Eiszeit in the Rocking Ladies poll.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 29 2022 at 10:59
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The 1990s: I associate the 90s with house dance music and clubbing -- not seals or anything horrid, but going to night clubs -- I even DJed a bit and worked as a bartender in a club for a while (n Australia at first). I also taught children and teens in the 90s, mostly in Japan, but not at the same time as any bartending or DJ work. It was an awesome decade for me. Much of the music was off-kilter and kind of disturbing (at least when I DJed). This is a real oddity from Swans, a dark, perverse, disturbing dance track. Swans - Volcano (off SOundtracks for the Blind - 1996) Note: adult themes. The 2000s: Various acts who had been going the trip hop roots had been moving away from that into the 2000s to a more "direct" sound. Post-industrial experimental rock was in, and a more modern-sounding take on Krautrock grooves was gaining ground (the Krautrock sound really came back in the 90s). Portishead - Silence (off Third - 2008) The 2010s: In the 2010s I notice that a lot of my favourites are of the Neoclassical Darkwave ilk I like atmosheric music of any decade, but these kind of kinds of dark industrial and neocalssical sounds seem very prevalent in the 2010s. Linga Ignota - May Failure Be Your Noose (off Caligula - 2019) Strong warning: use of the F word in angry sexual manner (I would not play this out loud amongst my family, and if anyone wants to skip this track for that reason even if nominated, feel free). Yes, I had mentioned a Portishead track earlier, and in an earlier Interactive Poll, and that Lingua Ignota I posted in another one of my polls recently. I love Swans, but normally I would not highlight this oddity -- Helpless Child off that album is one of favourite tracks by anyone, and I wanted fairly short songs from all. Unless I change things, this will be my nomination. Much as I love Silence, my favourite is May Failure Be My Noose. So if you are going to listen to just one trio of mine earlier than nomination time, choose these three. One might notice that H have been favouring female vocals in my selections, and I usually do. If people know some of my selections (or all) on their own and/or from other topics, that's fine it save on people's listening as I know people are busy with other things. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 29 2022 at 12:13
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Gary (Jaketejas): Finally listened to all three of your trios. From your first three, I enjoy the 60s sounds of Jan and Dean with Dead Man’s Curve surely the most, followed by the 70s Nicolette Larson - Lotta Love , and Trans-X - Living On Video from the 80s in last place. For your second trio, I enjoy Paul Revere And The Raiders' The Raiders (that is the link you provided and I had added to the playlist rather than Indian Reservation -- I can fix that if you want to provide a different link), followed by Benatar's Anxiety, followed by the Mechanical Men. For your third trio it's hard to decide between them. My favourite of the tracks you posted is Jan and Dean's Dead Man’s Curve, and I think that would be my preferred trio of yours if you are to nominate one of those three trios for the poll. We all have about another week to decide on our trio to be added. My free time has become much less, so sorry if seem unresponsive and not as participatory in this topic as one might like. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: August 29 2022 at 16:15
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My three songs: 1) La Crus: Lontano 2) Paolo Conte: Frisco 3) Francesco Guccini: L'ultima Thule ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 29 2022 at 18:53
As getting and providing details and links is difficult with your limited connection, I'll do my best -- I'm no Nickie with this stuff. Perhaps you might get a chance to add your better descriptions later, how it relates to the decade and maybe what it means to you. Not sure what your plans are or when things might be getting more back to normalish for you in terms of internet (and time and perhaps disposition and inclination). The 1990s: The 1990s was the an age of pop rock meets trip hop and kind of soundscapes. This does sound of the 90s to me, with sultry Lynchian Angelo Badalementi notes. La Crus - Lontano (1995) The 2000s: Jazz pop and such jazz was in vogue in the 2000s, and in other decades, but I'd describe this as nostalgic (drawing on much earlier styles) and kind of timeless in a way while also drawing on the past. Paulo Conte - Frisco (2004) The 2010s: Sort of rocky singer-songrwiter music, it does have a crispness to it that speaks 2010s to me. Francesco Guccini - L'ultima Thule (2012) ---------------------------- I like all three of your nominations but favour them in the order given (90s, then 2000s, then 2010s). |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: August 30 2022 at 08:45
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: August 30 2022 at 08:53
I'm sorry to say this, Lorenzo but would you mind to bring a few new names for a change? We have the whole week to make our choices, there's no need to rush! |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 30 2022 at 09:04
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^ I think Lorenzo has serious access to the internet issues (thus why he was not able to provide descriptions nor links -- methinks may be not being able to write descriptions is down to his device which makes it harder for him to type) and not easy access to his collection, so it's not as easy for him to check the dates and remember names as us (I have a weirdly good memory for such things). I enjoyed those artists songs, anyway, and this did start off as being a loved by us kind of personal thing that indicated your particular taste. I brought up Portishead again, twice, although I'm not saying I have decided on that trio and already have another trio in mind, but want to wait for some songs from others before posting those. Lorenzo is handicapped by circumstance, although he might have chosen those anyway. It does get increasingly hard to choose acts that one hasn't mentioned multiple times before without researching (especially if one is going with ones already loved that have been meaningful to oneself, rather than, say, choosing ones that one thinks others will like even if not that special to you). |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 30 2022 at 09:08
Three songs from three different decades is quite difficult to choose TBH. Where do i start? Why style of music do i choose? What country even? 
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 30 2022 at 09:15
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I will start adding my next trio, will edit more in later: I expect that some may listen to my lists and think, who knew so mnay decades could sound so much the same? Sorry if that is the case. The 1990s: This is a rare song in these things that I actually knew and liked when it came out and got back into of late. It definitely has a strong 90s feel and vibe to me (pretty sure had I never heard it before that I would guess 90s). It's quite hauntingly beautiful and features what is one of my very favourite singers, Liz Fraser. If everyone knows it, that's fine by me. Great song imo from one of the great bands of the 90s. Massive Attack - Teardrop (off Mezzanine 1998) The 2000s: One thing about the early 200s is that it was often very hard to distinguish from the last 90s, especially when bands were making much the same music, which is hardly unique to this time. So I see this as an extension of the 90s. Nevertheless, the early 2000s do continue to represent that revival in lounge, psychedelia and space-age pop for its progressive art pop and chamber pop artists. Stereolab - Suggestion Diabolique (off Sound-Dust 2001) The 2010s: The 2010s are really mostly about kinds of ethereal, ambient and experimental art pop. It also is a very strong era for women who acts as composers, musicians, arrangers and producers on their own albums. I have found more interesting female artists of the past ten years than male, but that's probably because that's what I have been interested in (so there is a sort of confirmation bias). Jenny Hval - The Great Undressing (off Blood Bitch 2017) I am tempted to do a Jenny Hval from the 2020s ("Year of Love" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i2oJJwgLTk" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i2oJJwgLTk ) ultimately for this topic. Not we can mix and match our trios or add any other ones up until next Monday when we decide our nominations (just in case people think that they are stuck with any mentioned trios -- mix and match, shake it up, come up witha new one, only mention one trio etc.). |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 30 2022 at 09:23
I'm more of the intuitive and feeling type rather than a kind of analytical. When I see such topics, immediately music I like comes to mind. All I then have to do is figure out how to explain how it fits with the theme (in this case, and in my case I am pretty vague with that... lol. But I can be fairly creative in that department). I'd start with what I love or have loved and is meaningful to me, but for those with seriously eclectic tastes and a huge amount to consider, that is harder. Good luck. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: August 30 2022 at 14:00
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First selection: 1) La Crus: Lontano (1995) La Crus came to prominence in the 1990s with two excellent albums, too bad they then got lost. "Lontano" is from their debut album: atmospheric music, carpet of keyboards and electronics, languid and fatalistic singing, trumpet giving a sophisticated tone to the piece. 2) Paolo Conte: Frisco (2004) Paolo Conte has yet to receive justice here on Progarchives. A unique, exceptional artist, capable of mixing jazz (especially Latin jazz), milonga, tango, European folk and popular dances of various kinds until he arrived at a synthesis that was cultured and at the same time popular and ironic, perhaps comparable to that of Tom Waits. This song is explicitly jazz, retro in style. And let's not forget his voice. 3) Francesco Guccini: L'Ultima Thule (2012) Ultima Thule is the last song on Guccini's last album, a kind of testament. Guccini comes to terms with the past, in the role of a ship captain who has crossed the Seven Seas and bids farewell to his crew, saying, however, that he will not stop traveling. Guccini has now been a novelist for 30 years, and has abandoned music for literature. Here he packs one of his most forbidding lyrics. I who have rounded Cape Horn three times And sailed the seven seas seven times And have seen monsters and rare animals, the amphesibena, the mermaids, the unicorn. I who returned proudly to each port After a fight, after a boarding, I am no longer that and no longer have the courage To sail on a dead vessel. Where is the crew that accompanied me And indulged every ribaldry? Where is the force that surrounded us? It is gone now, gone away. I watch the sails hang limp With ropes dangling in the void, Slowly flapping against the broadside With continuous motion, aimless. And I see in the air a senseless dance Of strange birds against the dreary sky Singing a song in this gray world, a dull song now, hopeless. And here alone I think of my past, I go backward and rummage through my life, a lost and endless saga Of what I have done, of what has been. The untrue truths in which I believed burst scattering all around,but others I had and day after day If I died stronger I was reborn. And now I am alone and no longer have the comfort Of friends gone and more and more I am assailed Boredom to empty the last tankard Like a thought that's twisted in my mind. But still I will set sail and depart I alone, and though exhausted, the bow I direct toward infinity Which sooner or later, I know, I shall reach. The Ultima Thule awaits in the far north, realm of eternal, lifeless ice, And up there this mine will be over In the cold where we will all end. The Ultima Thule awaits and inside the fjord Will forever extinguish all passion, will be lost in one last song Of me and my ship even the memory. ---------------- Second selection: 1) Claudio Lolli: Anna di Francia (1976) Claudio Lolli is perhaps the quintessential "committed" Italian singer-songwriter. Unlike Francesco Guccini, his friend and countryman, who has always filtered politics while remaining at a distance, Lolli took an active part in the leftist student movements of the 1970s, and churned out his masterpiece in 1976: "Ho visto anche degli zingari felici," an album that contains this romantic and delicate song, "Anna di Francia", the arrangement of which could border on prog. 2) Diaframma: Siberia (1984) Rock in Italy developed in the late 1980s. The first underground, indie rock band par excellence was Diaframma, who recorded their masterpiece, "Siberia," in 1984. Dark sounds, heirs of Joy Division, in a clear new wave atmosphere, a rarity in Italy. 3) Paolo Conte: Novecento (1992) Here's Paolo Conte again, churning out this sensational song with a circus atmosphere, worthy of a Kusturica film, with the usual wacky lyrics, an imaginative Paolo Conte who with his cavernous, grotesque baritone voice embellishes this piece with its simple structure but sophisticated arrangement. And wonderful video. --------------- PS: I'm back home, in Milan, vacation over, Sea of Puglia finished :-( Thanks to Greg ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 30 2022 at 16:30
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Good to see you properly back, Lorenzo (home in Milano). Two of the above tracks don't work for me: the Claudio Lolli: Anna di Francia (1976) and the Paolo Conte: Novecento (1992) I added ones that do work for me to the playlist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z74LvXUqJ0I&list=PLXcp9fYc6K4J5JvgpK6w4NjxVJ2SL4gFB" rel="nofollow - CLICK for all mentions thus far These are the links I used: - For Claudio Lolli: Anna Di Francia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW6SMYDuew0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW6SMYDuew0 - For Paolo Conte: Novecento https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2uEHxJ2BCc" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2uEHxJ2BCc |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: August 30 2022 at 18:15
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^ Sharing and discovering new music is what keeps things going. We have to put some effort in to get there. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 30 2022 at 20:21
I understand you, and that is important to me, but also a sense of camaraderie and relaxed and accepting attitudes I think help people keep coming back. When it starts to feel like a chore, as in (overmuch) we have to do this and that, are expected to put more effort into it, and maybe watch our backs worried about personal criticism as so often happens at forums, that would be the end of this, at least for me. It's about appreciating the music and appreciating each other and appreciating and accepting our differences to me. But I'm a real softie. Most of all, I think it should be fun. When I was a teenager my friends and I would get together and play each other's music and we genuinely seemed to appreciate the music each brought. Mind you, our tastes were still forming perhaps and our tastes grew together. We also enjoyed returning to kinds of music together. That communal experience was wonderful as I remember it. Obviously here we each have preferred music, one that connects more with us as individuals, but it's been a nostalgic desire for that in part that has kept me coming to these forums (a way to connect with others over music even if we don't hear it quite the same). We didn't judge each other for the music or really judge the music in that case (at least not outwardly/ explicitly), we shared an experience even if each of our experiences was also unique. As for my choices, I am swayed by other's perceptions, so if I= have mentioned a band too much and someone would rather a newer one, then I will take that advice on board. I do favour listening to other people's choices that are fresh to me, so I do think I should try to get fresh with them, so to speak. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 31 2022 at 03:15
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Nice posting! |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: August 31 2022 at 07:15
These polls were born from the idea of sharing non-prog songs we are sentimentally attached to. So it is clear that most of these songs will be songs from the past, not the present, songs we grew up with. Then it was added, as a pattern, to give a theme to the poll, which narrows the field within which to choose, and to allow prog songs. Personally, I remain of the opinion that the theme is NOT necessary and that, if chosen, it should be as broad as possible, as inclusive as possible. The theme should not force us to do a long search to find a song, among our favorites, that fits it, nor should the theme force us to search for new songs in order to participate in the poll. On the inclusion of prog songs, I also remain puzzled. I have often allowed them (my last IP was exclusively on prog), but I realize that very often if there are comparing non-prog songs with prog songs the vote ends up on the prog ones. This in my opinion loses a bit of the flavor of these polls. I enjoy it more when Crhistian (Lewian) posts a nice German verse-chorus song that he liked as a teenager. That too is new music to me. New music is not only the music of the present, it is also the music of the past that you don't know. Let's open a parenthesis about the music of the past and the present. I was born in 1970. I grew up with the music of the 1980s and 1990s. I had my reference music magazines, my reference TV shows. Then, starting more or less in the 2000s, everything changed: the Internet came, and music magazines and music broadcasts disappeared (or almost disappeared). Vinyls and tapes slowly disappeared, and then CDs too; there are no longer large CD departments in supermarkets. Music has become invisible. And there are so many music groups. Compared to the past, musicians of the present are more technically proficient at their instrument and are great connoisseurs of the music of the past. The songs are more complex, and everyone has access to professional recording studios. In short, the music of the past often sounds very naive and amateurish compared to that of today. Still, the best music to my ears is the music of the past. I find it more direct, urgent, inspired - seminal. The music of the present is, for the most part, more professional and competent, but less inspired, less artistic. I am speaking for myself; I do not claim that this discourse is shared. Of course there are still great songs and great artists, but they are a small percentage of those around (also because, I repeat, there are so many bands today). It is objective, however, to say that the main innovative breakthroughs in music happened in the past, today you can only rework them in new ways, but not create new ones (with some exception). This argument applies to all the arts: literature, film, theater. The real innovations happened in the past. And today there are so many artists (writers, directors) that it will be difficult in school texts to select the most important writers or musicians or directors of the 2000 century. I am passionate about literature, film and theater: most of the books and films of the present do not tell me much, I have to make a big selection to get to something I think is good. Even if I read a novel from the past or if I see a movie from the past I can come across a bad work of art, this is obvious, but in the past there were fewer works of art, and artists worked on material that was yet to be developed - and now following the lines of established critics you can get an idea of where you can find good novels or good films or good music. If I love an artist, because his or her music speaks to my heart (no matter what critical judgment I may make of it), I post his or her songs, selecting those that are less well known or that may appeal most to an audience of prog lovers. And I do this over and over again. I have done it for example with Springsteen, Nick Cave, Guccini, De André. I prefer to post songs that engage me emotionally than songs that are formally perfect, that have critical acclaim (and even my own) but that I am not passionate about. For example, Frank Zappa and Captain Beefheart have my esteem; if I have to rate their works, I give them very high ratings. But I don't empathize with their music. Then, I compromise, often between my tastes, my passions, and my critical judgments, looking for songs that satisfy both my heart and my mind. This is why I currently listen to more music of the twentieth century than music of the two-thousandth century. My knowledge of twentieth-century (1960s-1990s) music is good but not complete, it does not reach the encyclopedic knowledge of Logan or SillYPuppy, and so I still have a lot of very good (and new, to me, to my ears) music to listen to. Probably when I know enough of it, I will focus more on the present. For now, I seek out music of the present only where I can be fairly certain of finding something interesting, so I'm looking for recommendations and reference points -- but my tastes are more selective, I think, than those of the prog lovers on this site: I don't easily get excited by prog of the present; Black Midi, for example, leaves me skeptical. In general, I am an atypical prog listener. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: August 31 2022 at 12:29
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Here's another track that I'm going to add to my initial post. http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=129626&PN=1" rel="nofollow - here The Young Gods: Kissing the Sun (Album: Only Heaven, 1995) The Young Gods are a three-piece industrial rock band from Geneva, formed in 1985. The band's music is largely based on sampling and sound manipulation. In their later releases they incorporated elements of ambient and electronic music such as in particular on their 1995 album "Only Heaven". Through their innovative sample-based approach to rock music they gained international spotlight, which is relatively rare for a Swiss band. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: August 31 2022 at 12:29
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Thank you for letting us in on your thought process, Lorenzo. And the history of these polls, as well, including the original intent. I do like the idea of themes, but also not to make them too restrictive, also of non-themes. Also that it should be what you love already, comes easily to mind, instead of a deep search to fit the theme. That all being said, I like the premise of this one, with three songs to represent 3 decades, for the participant on a personal level, as well as being more representational in a widespread way. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 31 2022 at 12:59
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Lorenzo: You may well have had that idea of sentimental attachment with that first poll that people, starting with TCat picked up on which helped lead to this being a series, but it was not explicitly expressed (at least in your OP or others subsequent polls) and so I would not have shared your expectation that they would mostly be songs we grew up with. That said, I know it's important to you from various comments you have made subsequently (but I did not approach the polls made by people that way -- may be with one I've forgotten. I made a list so I could review most) Lewian brought in a specific theme which like your first poll idea, caught on, others brought in some all prog ones and some some prog ones. I like the variety. I like that people come up with different ideas and expectations and variations. I don't think that had it stayed like the first poll it would have had momentum. I think the longevity is due to people adapting, come up with new rules and expectations, variation, and individuality coming into play for each person who conducts one of these. My OP would look very different than if, say, David_D did one with a different approach. I try to be quite open in my themes generally, at least in leaving room for interpretation (I've seen it expressed that it is harder to choose without a defined in past poll or more). And look at Cristi's post here: "Three songs from three different decades is quite difficult to choose TBH. Where do i start? Why style of music do i choose? What country even? ".I'm not nearly as sentimentally attached to music that I discovered long ago as many others at PA are. I often see people in polls say, I vote for because I have known it for four decades and it has meant a lot to me. I genuinely tend to be more attached and want to listen to newer-to-me music. By the way when I spoke of newer music and the way I interpreted Mila's use of new music as new to others, and possibly new-to-you no matter how modern it is. I continue to discover music from the 60s up that is new-to-me. I was interpreting it as sharing music that is new to the other participants in the thread no matter when they music was released or recorded. Sometimes with music I post for Interactive Threads, I have also shared those in other topics. That said, while I think we can expect people to adhere to the rules in a person's thread who participated (as well as point where we think they could be improved), I do think we should avoid telling people wat they do generally. I may have communist sympathies but I am also an individualist. I value that people take different approaches, I value that the polls are not all the same, I value that people value different art, I value that we each have our own ways to express things and respond to such topics. As long as we are respectful of each other, and not too domineering, and team players while appreciating the individualism. Each poll has been done rather differently depending on the poll starter, and that's the beauty of these to me, that it's a team effort and an individual effort, and we each bring in our own expectations for the polls we do. I like the individualism of the polls. I also think the themes played a major role in the longevity of this. Coming up with themes has been a lot of fun for me, and trying to think within those boxes has been a challenge that I have enjoyed. I like that each new poll can bring something different to the table and the individuality of the poll starter comes into play in how the topic is approached, how the OP is expressed, and how that person interacts. Without the different approaches and expectations from different posters, and the fun I have had in coming up with Interactive Poll ideas, I would have lost interest in these long ago.. For my topic, we aren't "competing" with others (not that I treat these as competitions anyway), it's seeing which three you choose to nominate others appreciate most in part. For that exercise, I did want to not allow one Prog track from each person, and I have done various in and out of PA topics. I have sometimes voted for the Prog choice and very often not. I don't care that much about the poll results. Generally I do prefer to hear ones not in PA. Most of what I listen to now is of the past decade, and most of it is not in PA (well, I have been listening to a lot of Anna von Hausswolff, and modern Swans over the past months). But I would say a lot of what I listen to could be described as art pop, chamber pop, experimental and progressive pop. In my nine mentions, I have only mentioned one deemed Prog by PA inclusion, Swans, and I chose an oddity that I would not describe as Prog (and in fact, I wouldn't describe Swans as Prog to others even though I think it should be in PA). I haven't paid much attention the the results of when Prog is mixed with non-Prog. By the way, I can get a really strong attachment (and a sentimental-feeling one although I am not a sentimentalist) to music that is new to me. I have only known Nick Drake's River Man for about five years, yet almost immediately when I heard it I felt a sentimental attachment to it. The vast majority of music I now love is not from my distant past, yet it moves me as much and seems more meaningful in a way as it relates to ne as I am now with my current interest more.. I too do not favour the technically perfect. By thee way, prog like many other genres (or subgenre) has music I love, am meh about and dislike. What David_D might call the modern Prog proper does not tend to interest me. ^ and thank you Nickie, I'm glad that you appreciate this theme. And indeed, thank you Lorenzo for putting so much thought into that post. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 31 2022 at 13:22
Interesting, had you noticed my post yesterday where I mentioned listening to that album for the first time after I was asked by Nick on my thoughts on the Young Gods due to the band's Swans relation, or is the timing just coincidence? Nice either way. --------------------------- I'm still very undecided on what my three will be, other than I think that Jenny Hval's "The Great Undressing" (off Blood Bitch 2017) will be my 2010s choice. The Lingua Ignota is my favourite, but I know it's known to some here (and I did a poll with it, not an Interactive one, not long ago) and the use of the f* word and its context might be off-putting to some (though "The Great Undressing" also refers to consummation). "Tis a consummation devoutly to be wished" (Hamlet). |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: August 31 2022 at 13:44
Pure coincidence or should I say predetermination? Since I'm on business atm and therefore I hardly have the opportunity to check the threads or social media. And of course, I'm pround of my Swiss compatriots and wanted to introduce them to you guys. :) Maybe I should pick an earlier recording, because that shows their innovative spirit even better. Let me see if I can find the time to go through their earlier material. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: August 31 2022 at 13:54
YVW, Greg. I've found them a really great way to get to know people in this site, more than other places, as there is discussion, and the virtual nonexistence of flareups over opinion. One thing that was suggested early on, was to be gentle, as the picks were to be beloved music of the participant. It's been relatively kind discussion, and even if something isn't someone's cup of tea, it is still expressed civilly. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: September 01 2022 at 10:39
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: September 01 2022 at 10:46
Yes, I agree, in fact I try to be flexible all the times. I've never said No to any proposal or will to change - at most I have only asked that the theme be expanded to give more options. Also, I dont consider myself the "owner" of the Interactive polls or the judge whose job it is to judge their eligibility or otherwise (they are okay, they are not okay), I have always tried to create a team that decides collectively. (However, it must be said that, in recent months, many people participate only in the song proposal stage, and then leave the poll without voting, which is not good, not so much because of the lack of votes, but because it means that these people propose songs that are listened to by others but they dont listen to others' songs) In general, the theme is a good idea (it was Micky the first to suggest it) and I am in favour to open the Interactive Polls to the prog songs. In my opinion, the right balance is: 1) IPs of non prog songs (about fifty per cent) 2) IPs of non prog songs and prog songs (about fifty per cent) and sometimes IPs of prog songs. - It is a good idea even the combination of 2 or 3 songs. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 01 2022 at 11:17
I'm pretty sure I did the first one with a theme, and it was my own idea. Not sure whether Micky had suggested something like this before, but in that case I don't remember having seen it.
I'd very roughly think it's good to have a clear majority of non-prog but occasionally also prog. Which is pretty much in line with your percentage indications (and I suspect pretty much all of us think like that). |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 01 2022 at 14:59
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^ I concur... Too tired to elaborate, but those last ten posts or so were a good read, with which I mostly agree, and an interesting take on these IA-polls. ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 01 2022 at 16:26
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A very interesting discussion, and can't think of much interesting to add that hasn't been said (also dang tired). But not too tired to think of three more. The one from 2022 is a very new discovery to me. So much great to me music, almost too much... This should be my final trio perhaps, and I might mix and match between the ones I have done to come up with my final three tracks. In the 2000s the contemporary, post 90s, exciting jazz revival was in full swing jazz with big band jazz (shwing!) with improv and brutal dissonant qualities from Japan. Japan was such a force to be reckoned with at the time when it comes to jazz meets a kind of brutal busy and big prog (in the 90s too, but I think it really cherry blossomed in the 2000s. 2000s Shibusashirazu Orchestra - Akkan (from Shibuboshi 2004) 2010s: The 2010s, like various past decades, speaks Neo-Psych, Indietronica and art pop music. What seals this as significantly timely to me is the origin, Korea (south Kora specifically). South Korea (not North Korea) became a juggernaut in entertainment arts (and pretty successful with cars too and electronics). Korea had massive success in term of exporting music, tv and film. It was already popular in other east Asian countries before that (and in terms of what my wife watched, it was mostly Korean dramas), and I already love Koreans film (two directors primarily), but how successful Korean arts are abroad in the 2010s has been remarkable, BTS, the Squid Game, Korean BBQ.... And I love kimchi. Mid-Air Thief - Crumbling Together (off Crumbling 2018) 2020s: The 2020s saw the rise of this decade's Post-Radiohead-like music (if "2020s Pretty Post-Radiohead-like" isn't a genre label yet then it should be), sometimes fused with music like Can, electronica and other things,. The Smile - Pana-vision (from A Light for Attracting Attention 2022) |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: September 01 2022 at 16:37
Yes, now I see. I remember that Micky was the one to suggest to follow the idea of the theme, but this discussion came after you opened your first interactive poll, "This sounds Greek to me" http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=123139&KW=Interactive" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=123139&KW=Interactive ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 02 2022 at 09:05
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Listened to the first batch, from page 1: suitkees: Oh, no, not Nena again! Yes, well, sure... Actually, I don't remember if I was really in love with her, but I better should have had a poster of hers above my bed. Instead I think I had Mendeleev's Periodical Table of Elements scotched above my bed... BUT, I insist that her self titled album remains for me one of the pop highlights of the decade; listen to it in its entirety, it is full of great pop-rock! And of course, her voice is wonderful. I discovered she has a new album out (well, two years old now) and her voice is still wonderful. Indochine is shameful new-wave pop drizzle, with an industrial tinge and Kaboom is Karavaning in circles... Whoohm, whoohm, whoohm.Christian: With Shudder we are more on the punky, indy, grungy side of things. It's OK, but doesn't conquer me. Kante, on the contrary is much more captivating. Relaxed in a sense, not necessarily much diversity, but enchanting at the same time; subdued in the good way. The Comsat Angels are with the Cocteau Twins for me: always liked what I heard, but never explored. This track by Stephen Fellows is really a great listen. My preferred of your selection. Jaketas: Ah, this is 60s surfing. Nice to hear these "other Beach Boys". With Nicolette Larson we get a typical 70s singer/songwriter's pop song. Not exceptional, but her singing is great! Followed by this synthy disco-pop tune by Trans X. Yes, typical 80s. Probably what I hated the most at that time - still not a fan. Mila: Ideal with their Blue Eyes; yes, a rather typical new wave product. Didn't know them (or don't remember them) and they wouldn't have been much in my scope back then. It's nice to hear, but I'm much more captivated by Dawda Jobarthe & Stefan Pasborg's track - this is really great musicianship and songwriting that I like. Energetic! I've heard of Johanna Burnheart, but here again: I never explored her music. Nice vocalizations and work on the rythmic structure and the electronics with that jazzy stance that sets in. Again a wonderful track. George: Warrior, haha. I haven't heard this since the 80s. A friend of mine had one or more of their albums and that's how I discovered them. Yes, the typical hard rock (or power metal, if you wish) that I liked to hear every once in while but wasn't on top of my listening preferences. Not then, not now. Great to hear, though. Yes, Rust is a good example of the Indie/Alt rock of the 90s. I must have heard them, but it is not what captivated me that much. It's OK, but Not necessarily for Today. I'm surprising myself that I actually very much like the Mantra Machine track. This is part of the genres that I generally do not explore (there's too much and not much to my liking, as far as I can guess...), but of the three you propose here it is the one that captivates me most - it's got some of those Hawkind aspects that I like. [Edit, and added:] Lorenzo: Ah, Lorenzo is back, so we have good music again ;) La Crus, yes very atmospheric. I love this sound carpet with the trumped added to it. Great track. I also always loved Paolo Conte, that is: to hear it every once in a while. He's not changing very much his "thing" here, but it remains very enjoyable to listen to. For Guccini I have similar comments concerning his "thing", but again here a great listen. Still, La Crus' Lontano is the stand-out track for me of this selection. To be continued (if possible)... ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 02 2022 at 09:25
| ^ Excellent, Kees. Thanks so much for preparing that. Reading a post like yours there actually is my favourite part of this whole exercise, and I always really enjoy reading your impressions (as well as hearing what you bring to the table). |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 02 2022 at 09:35
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^ Thank you, Greg. For me too, this is the part of exchanging about music that I appreciate very much. I enjoy commenting on what I listen to, if I have time (and add some odd twists and/or being very explicit in what I like or don't like...). These polls have made me discover much great music. (actually, I sometimes try to compete with your very bad sense of humor, but your word-plays are much more sophisticated than mine ...   ) ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: September 02 2022 at 18:35
Thanks for your comments, always appreciated! Though I hope that Stephen Fellows is not your favourite of mine, because that's actually one of Christian's choices. :P There's another 'Stephen', the duo Stefan Pasborg/Dawda Jobarthe is one of my suggestions. The German new wave band has been replaced the other day by an industrial rock band. I guess the playlist will be updated once everybody has made their final choice. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: September 02 2022 at 22:02
Hey Greg, thanks for your feedback. I've floating in out of PA, mostly voting in polls, so I haven't had a chance to reply. I did go through my personal recollection of the decades, and I am glad enjoyed reading it. I hope to have some time to really read through your posts and others this weekend.
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: September 02 2022 at 22:25
The Warrior and Rust choices, besides being of those times, were colored by nostalgia. Not sure how I would feel if I were to listen for the first time now. Warrior brings back fond memories of hanging out with my college roommate and playing music much too loud as to bother our neighbors, and Rust for seeing a band that I had seen several times almost make it. I agree that there is a lot out their in that stoner/psychedelic/space jam vein of music. Mantra Machine hit that right groove for me with their first full length that I got this track. Their second album didn't really do it for me.
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 03 2022 at 02:31
Hehe, my brain must have been in the fridge at that moment; at least it didn't give the right signals to my typing fingers. But I was referring to the Dawda Jobarthe & Stefan Pasborg track, so the comment is the right one (I was even asking myself if I could use the word "songwriting" for an instrumental track. I did use it, so I can...). I'll correct the name in the post. Just listened to the Young Gods. Energetic too. And an interesting listen. I'm maybe not completely convinced by the drum/heavy guitar parts (that sound more punk than industrial to me), especially in the first part of the song, but as a whole the track is really nice. I like how they use the effects. ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 03 2022 at 04:49
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Thanks Kees for the comments! I like a lot reading these; unfortunately I'm not such a big writer and all the stuff that is going on this summer (and more things to listen to, which in itself is a good thing) will unfortunately mean that I won't write much on the proposals. Listening-wise I'm at it! |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 03 2022 at 14:32
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^ Actually, Nickie is paying me when she's not around to do some write-ups (one gold bar per comment, though I'm still waiting the first shipment...). And remember, it's not an obligation (unless Nickie pays you). ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: September 03 2022 at 16:01
The bars are in the mail! ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: September 03 2022 at 17:43
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@Logan Claude Lombard - song dominated by the female voice and high-pitched keyboard sounds. Sinuous and languid. Cocteau Twins - power-pop song with a percussion sound that I just don't like, it's a pity because the melodic vocal intertwining is interesting. Portished - high-class pop song, as is often the case in Portished. Here too there are some questionable, bulky percussions, but they are deliberately bulky, they make a clear contribution to the sound. It is my favorite song, especially in the second part when the singing takes off and the electric guitar arrives to fill the space invaded by percussions. In all three songs, the part I like the most is the vocals. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: September 03 2022 at 18:05
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@Logan Claude Lombard - song dominated by the female voice and high-pitched keyboard sounds. Sinuous and languid. Cocteau Twins - power-pop song with a percussion sound that I just don't like, it's a pity because the melodic vocal intertwining is interesting. Portished - high-class pop song, as is often the case in Portished. Here too there are some questionable, bulky percussions, but they are deliberately bulky, they make a clear contribution to the sound. It is my favorite song, especially in the second part when the singing takes off and the electric guitar arrives to fill the space invaded by percussions. In all three songs, the part I like the most is the vocals. @suitkees Nena - song with tribal percussion and almost shouted vocals. The best part is the bass line. I play very Eighties. Indochine - gothic song with a riff that resembles some of my dear Missions, but the singing is very melodic. Pretty song Kaboom Caravan - experimental beginnings with cavernous sounds that would have been suitable for an Addams family movie. The song proceeds to improve, almost reaching a sort of climax before the final fade. Sound dissonant, refined, perhaps a little academic but effective. I really like it. My favourite. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: September 03 2022 at 18:46
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EDIT: Gary, I listened to your first mentioned trio and definitely each one feels very much of its time (easy to connect the style and sound with the period). Enjoyable, I liked the 60s one the most. In the end, I guess., consider going for the trio of yours to nominate that you like best/ find most interesting. Be it sounding very much of its time or having more timeless qualities (provided one can link it sufficiently with the era/decade beyond when it was made. ****************************** I think the first trio probably works best! Those are some stark contrasts going from one decade to another. If I had then ventured into the 90s, I probably would have used Soundgarden’s “Outshined” or Temple of the Dog “Hunger Strike”. https://youtu.be/sNh-iw7gsuI" rel="nofollow - Soundgarden - Outshined https://youtu.be/VUb450Alpps" rel="nofollow - Temple of the Dog - Hunger Strike Sloppy grunge struck a chord, because it had more heart in its angst-laden lyrics and a twisted complexity that was antithetical to the precision picking of the neo-classical shredders of the mid-1980s. Moving into the 2000s, it would probably be Eve6 “On the Roof Again” or Oleander “Are You There?” (or possibly Placebo). https://youtu.be/rbvXG9tMyJk" rel="nofollow - Eve6 - On the Roof Again https://youtu.be/tyTx1VqtKcI" rel="nofollow - Oleander - Are You There? Post-punk had somehow morphed from grunge. It now had taken on a higher energy tempo but with a vulgar edge. If you then go back and compare those last ones to Lotta Love by Nicolette Larson from the 1970s, you’d think you’d walked from the set of the Love Boat onto that of Blade Runner. Very different from one decade to another. As for me, I suppose I miss the music of the 1970s and 1980s. 
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 04 2022 at 09:09
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^^ Thanks very much, Lorenzo, for your music commentary. -------------------------------------- ^^ Thanks, Gary, for that. --------------------------------------- While very few of us of the few that participated have mentioned more than one trio (I have done four and would have liked to do ten more), I would like to remind people to try to get up their final nominations by tomorrow. I plan to put the poll up on Tuesday. So also time to get some up for people who have not joined in. You can be pretty loose with the expectations other than there should be three tracks, and those tracks should come from different decades. If you need to narrow it down, maybe think up a sub-theme of your own, such as the evolution of arena rock, or New Zealand music, or whatever. ------------------------------------------- I'm not sure what my final three will be. I'm leaning towards 1. Shibusashirazu Orchestra - Akkan (from Shibuboshi 2004) 2. Jenny Hval - The Great Undressing (off Blood Bitch 2017) 3. The Smile - Pana-vision (from A Light for Attracting Attention 2022) Not because those are particular favourites, but with the jazzy first one it gives some variety. I've covered Portishead quite a lot at PA. and that Lingua Ignota (which I find extremely good) was covered in another poll of mine not long ago (Lingua Ignota was brought to me attention by Saperlipopette mostly for a later album). Plus it has f.u (not Francis Urquhart, doubt anyone in this topic will get that reference) in a way that could be found offensive, and not good if one is playing it around kids, at the mosque or wherever. I am tempted to an Anna von Hausswolff for the 2010s too. I think Dead Magic is such a fantastic album, kind of surprised that it only rates at number 88 in PA for that year, at RYM for all genres it rates much higher for the year, at number 12 for 2018 and very little reviewed despite it scoring very high on the Collab list for the year. One review gave it a four even though the review indicates 5. I'll have to review it. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: September 05 2022 at 12:17
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I'm just back from my business trip and I haven't really had a chance to listen to all suggested tracks nor read all the comments. I will try to catch up in the next few days and will comment on the nominated trios once the poll is put up. Greg, I always find your Japanese suggestions exciting and I'm glad to see the Shibusashirazu Orchestra on your shortlist! The Korean track is stylistically quite different and beautiful in its own way. But if I had to choose between the two tracks, I too would go for the former. I have meanwhile replaced my first suggestion, the German new wave band Ideal by the Swiss Young Gods. You can find all my suggestions in my first post on page 1. :) |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 05 2022 at 14:42
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@Greg: Just for decision support: I'd probably find the fourth group most interesting, that's the one you're leaning towards anyway. They sound all good and I hadn't known any of them before. The first one has Portishead head & shoulders above the others. The second one is very good but I know 2/3. Of the third trio I know Massive Attack's track and have never been so keen on Stereolab, the third track is nice. @Lorenzo: I think I prefer the first trio. The Conte song in the second one is fantastic, probably I like it even more than the one in the first trio, but the first trio has three that I'd like to revisit whereas the other two in the second trio didn't convince me. @Gary: Big fun listening through these... all three of your 80s songs are also part of my musical upbringing and I liked them a lot at the time. Overall I prefer your first trio. I love Lotta Love by Neil Young and it's very nice to have this with another voice and arrangement for once.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 05 2022 at 18:37
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Many thanks, Mila and Christian. I was pretty sure on two thirds of my fourth option (most knew that I wanted the one from Japan), but I think I will settle on the three from that. I think they work well as my trio. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 06 2022 at 06:13
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suitkees: 1) Nena - Indianer (1983) 2) Indochine - Comateen I (2002) 3) Kaboom Karavan - The Karavel (2020) Lewian: 1) Shudder To Think - Hit Liquor (1994) 2) Kante - Ituri (2001) 3) Stephen Fellows - Got to Be Free (2020) Jaketejas: 1) Jan and Dean - Dead Man’s Curve (1964) 2) Nicolette Larson - Lotta Love (1978) 3) Trans-X - Living on Video (1983) Mila-13: 1) The Young Gods - Kissing the Sun (1995) 2) Dawda Jobarthe & Stefan Pasborg - A Change Has Come (2016) 3) Johanna Burnheart: Silence is Golden (2020) mathman0806: 1) Warrior – Fighting for the Earth (1985) 2) Rust – Not Today (1996) 3) Mantra Machine – Andromeda (2014) jamesbaldwin: 1) La Crus - Lontano (1995) 2) Paolo Conte - Frisco (2004) 3) Francesco Guccini - Ultima Thule (2012) Logan: 1) Shibusashirazu Orchestra - Akkan (2004) 2) Mid-Air Thief - Crumbling Together (2018) 3) The Smile - Pana-vision (2022) The poll will be up soon, then the playlist to follow (first day back at school for mah boy). I will post the playlist here and in the first post. Please if you haven't, have a read through people's descriptions. Wonderful stuff. Thanks for that. Much thanks to those who have participated, and sorry for those who couldn't. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: September 06 2022 at 08:31
First Selection: 1) La Crus - Lontano 2) Paolo Conte - Frisco 3) Francesco Guccini - Ultima Thule ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 06 2022 at 10:39
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Thanks Lorenzo, voting is open and I will start preparing the playlist. In a way, not having a youtube playlist would be better because the comments to go with the selections are part of this process (mine were a piffle, but there is very good reading coming from people). So you know, vote for one track by each participant that is not you, then make a comment on your six (in total) selections (one for six people)... why each of those appealed the most, why you chose those? etc. Some may want to comment on more than those. I can be verbose, but when it comes to such things I tend to be rather at a loss for words other than saying things like "like", "love", "yowza", "booya", "what the...?" etc. :) Here is the playlist for the nominated tracks: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4Jtdnwn-ZsJgpG_sm9bEzDa" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4Jtdnwn-ZsJgpG_sm9bEzDa ................................ Note: Here is the playlist that includes all mentions, but I mentioned more than anyone else with 12 tracks total, and most only mentioned one trio: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4J5JvgpK6w4NjxVJ2SL4gFB" rel="nofollow - all tracks mentioned |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 06 2022 at 11:47
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I had already commented briefly at least on the selections, but these are fresh takes even if sound similar to what I said before. Suitkees (Kees): I like all three but Kaboom Karavan - The Karavel (2020) is the bomb! (there's some more terrible humour for you). I love the avant-garde sounds, the sax, the, yes, atmosphere or ambience. Lewian (Christian): Kante - Itouri (2001) is my favourite of yours. I adore those Indie Rock meets post-rock qualities. This kind of music is very much up my alley. Love it. Jaketejas (Gary): With yours it's a home run, and no curve ball, for Jan and Dean - Dead Man’s Curve (1964). I don't listen to a lot of music from the early 60's, so it's refreshing to be exposed to that. I hadn't heard this in many years, and I found it so highly enjoyable. Very evocative of its era. I really like these kinds of surf sounds. Mila-13 (Mila): I very much appreciate each of your selection in its own way (and really liked the one you opted not to go with). While, through predetermination rather than coincidence one might say (I am a determinist), I had chosen to listen to the Young Gods album that is off quite shortly before you nominated that due its Swans connection. Much as I appreciate it, it still is between Jobarthe & Pasborg's A Change Has Come (2016) and Johanna Burnheart's Silence is Golden (2020). I love each of those in its own way, but today A Change Has Come has come to take my vote for your choices. mathman0806 (George/Geo): That first I remembered from way back and it did bring a smile to my face (and a chuckle). It is cheesy, and fun! Nothing wrong with cheese, I love cheese, Glad you mentioned it. It does have a certain nostalgic value to me. Very much of its era. I did have a clear favourite, however, which is Mantra Machine's Andromeda (2014). Now this is in my wheelhouse, as I actually love lost of stoner, space rock, heavy rock with psych qualities. I really like this. Good stuff for my ears. jamesbaldwin (Lorenzo): Appreciated all three (as with all others), but as with most, I had a clear favourite and this time I went with the 90s: La Crus - Lontano (1995). I love its trip-hop qualities, its atmosphere, and I play the trumpet (was in youth orchestra) and like the tone. It has Angelo Badalamenti tones to it to my ears which I really like. Great atmosphere. With the Paulo Conte I seemed to recognise the beginning, based on a classical piece?. ------------------------------------ So everybody had at least one track that I genuinely loved. Nice. Now I just hope that I have at least one track that everyone can tolerate. Had this been a normal Interactive poll, it would be so undesirable having to choose between my six choices from your six trios. Thanks to all for participating, and we had some, I think, interesting discussion to boot. By the way, if someone else wants to add a trio today, go for it. I would not expect any takers, but just in case you think of three tracks from three different decades that you want to share and go in the poll -- some conditions apply. ;) |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: September 06 2022 at 15:19
Thanks a lot, Greg. (About Frisco: No, I dont think so). QUESTION: How many songs can we vote for? ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 06 2022 at 15:38
Six in total because we have seven trios from seven participants and you don't vote for any of your own trio. So vote for your preferred track from each person who participated other than yourself (vote for one entry per participant other than your own, no more, no less). One track from every person (other than myself) got a vote from me and a comment on the choice from me. If all goes as it should, we each should get the same total number of votes if counting the combined totals of each person's three choices. I thought it would be interesting where in a way our three choices are competing against each other rather than against other people's three choices, if you understand me. Not that I treat this like a competition. So my votes (one per trio/ one per participant not my own) were: 3) Kaboom Karavan - The Karavel (2020) Suitkees 2) Kante - Itouri (2001) Lewian 1) Jan and Dean - Dead Man’s Curve (1964) Jaketejas 2) Jobarthe & Pasborg - A Change Has Come (2016) Mila-13 3) Mantra Machine – Andromeda (2014) mathman0806 1) La Crus - Lontano (1995) jamesbaldwin Yours would be one vote for a Suitkees track, one for a Lewian track, one for a Jaketejas track, one for a Mila track, one for a mathman track, and one for a Logan track. |
Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: September 06 2022 at 22:05
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I’m going to have to approach these groupings one at a time to savor them. Suitkees! You’re up first. My ears really enjoyed listening to all of these songs. Nena - The opening to Indianer almost sounds like Rush with a great driving percussion (though the drums sound perhaps more like BowWowWow or Adam Ant) and a really strong bassline. But, when her powerful voice comes in, you know that it is all about Nena. I love the experimental nature of the vocals with its 80s almost Bangles-like vibe. Of course, I have 99 Red Balloons and 99 Luftballons (both versions) on my MP3 player. I will have to add this one. Indochine Comateen 1 - Very 1990s, and I just learned that my wife went to one of their concerts. Her fave is L’Aventurier, with the famous guitar hook. On this one, I love how they blended the clean and dirty guitar. The rhythmic structure reminds me a bit of the Cranberries or the softer songs of Smashing Pumpkins. The vocals are really nice. I’m going to have to listen to more of their tunes. I really like the guitar sound. Kaboom Karavan - The Karavel - This one is more of an experimental piece, with almost spiritual vocalizations that seem perhaps an octave apart between male and female singers. I feel like I’m in an exotic location like Kathmandu, but it has a twisted almost playful element to it like that Police song “Mother” or very very early Pink Floyd (with Syd Barrett leading). Which one to pick? Hmmm … how to even begin to choose. I appreciate them all. The last one is a little bit frightening and for some reason makes me think of death (maybe it is due to the slow dirge of percussion). I think I’ll go with Nena! (Of course, everyone knows that I’m stuck in an 80s time warp).
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 07 2022 at 10:15
| ^ Compelling write-up. And approaching it as one grouping at a time is a good/ sensible strategy. :) |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 07 2022 at 11:12
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@Jaketas: Many thanks for your comments, Gary. Nice reading! (and don't forget to vote for Nena - she would be sad to remain on a donut score...). And greetings to your wife. I guess she has seen a great show. I've never seen Indochine live, but saw some shows on TV and that already looked (and sounded) quite impressive. You might like the album this one's from.  ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 07 2022 at 11:15
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I will have to listen to the tracks (again) before being able to vote, but I won't get to that before the week-end... Maybe I can come up with another trio (I was thinking of a trio of what I detested most in some decades... )------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 07 2022 at 11:19
A theme that we haven't done yet is stuff that is extraordinarily bad (and maybe so bad that it's good again).I'm not saying I'm going to do that...
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 07 2022 at 12:06
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^ Didn't you do that one already?
Thank you, much appreciated!
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Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: September 07 2022 at 16:21
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Lewian follows up Suitkees with another interesting batch of songs. I think your tastes might even overlap somewhat! Shudder to Think - Hit Liquor I love a good cacophonous chord progression (like Nirvana) and this band delivers with a grungy vibe. This genre of creepy fun might trace back to Boris the Spider by The Who. King’s X could always throw in a great cacophonous chord like in “Over My Head”, but this band is dropping them left and right. It is a bit like Marcy Playground with the distortion knob tweaked up. If you like this, you might dig Placebo. Kante - Itouri This is my favorite of the three. It is such a pretty song. It repeats quite a bit but not in a negative way. Rather, it builds in an almost New Age transcendent manner, kind of like what Michael Hedges does in the song Aerial Boundaries. Stephen Fellows - Got to be Free Interesting usage of feedback and volume knob control on top of minimalist layers. I like how the vocal melody twists upward in a quirky way. Kante - Itouri clinches it for me. Thanks for sharing them. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: September 07 2022 at 16:36
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My firsts votes: @suitkees As I have already said, my fave is Kaboom Karavan - The Karavel . @Lewian Shudder to think - Hard-rock piece with an abrasive guitar that actually recalls that of Fripp - second period (with Wetton). Very nice. Kante - Slow, dilated piece, between prog and ambient, atmospheric. Beautiful Stephen Fellows - slow, minimalist, almost slowed down, lo-fi piece? That's what convinces me the least. The first two pieces contend for the vote but I go with Sudder to Think @Jaketeyas Jan and Dean - They remind me of the Kinks. Very vintage cute song. The recording is really amateur, looks its age and has its charm. We are really close to the Sixties Beat or the Beach Boys Nicolette Larson - wow! I'm about to fall in love with this beautiful woman! The song doesn't drive me as crazy as she does, but it's arranged beautifully. Trans - X - The synth pop of the eighties! I know this song but I haven't heard it since the years ... Eighties! Synthetic sounds have their own appeal, although I prefer acoustic ones. Three hilarious songs, I must admit, I had a lot of fun listening to them, and my vote goes to the wonderful Nicolette! ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: September 07 2022 at 21:52
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Mila-13 shared a group of widely ranging genres from across the pond. I enjoyed listening and pondering over them. The Young Gods - Kissing the Sun I’m surprised this is 1980s because It seems more like 1990s to 2000s. I enjoy listening to this style when I do aerobic exercise like running. It reminds me of the driving soundtrack to Run, Lola, Run or the Josh Harris mix titled Distortion on the Dance floor. It’ll keep you going when you can’t go anymore. Dawda Jobarthe & Stefan Pasborg: A Change Has Come Interesting sounds that reminded me a bit of a bouzouki or oud, but actually more like a qanun at times. So, I had to look up Kora and it looks more like a bouzouki but seems to sound more like a qanun. In my travels, I fell in love with Mediterranean music, especially stringed instruments. A good example is https://youtu.be/B-0fl_N1KFc by Nawal El Zoghbi. So, I was a bit surprised that it was from Denmark … far from the Med. Learn something new every day. Johanna Burnheart: Silence is Golden Smooth jazz set to avant-garde visuals. I used to play in a jazz band and can appreciate this. There are sophisti-pop elements in there as well, a bit like Sade but more on the experimental side. Now, to decide. I think I’ll go with the Young Gods - Kissing the Sun, because I’ve always had a soft spot for the tragic Icarus. And, I learned of a Swiss band that rocks. Thanks for posting these! |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: September 08 2022 at 02:18
^ Gary, thanks a lot for your detailed comment, much appreciated! You must be very athletic if you can run to such energetic music like the Young Gods.  The band formed in the mid 1980s but this album was released in the 90s. They were quite innovative from the start, though.As for Dawda Jobarteh & Stefan Pasborg, they are based in Denmark but Jobarteh is from Gambia. The kora is an instrument that is widely used in West Africa, esp. in Mali, Gambia and Senegal. It has 12 strings, that's why it sounds to some extent similar to a lute or harp. But Jobarteh uses an amp in this recording.- Two of the most famous kora players are Seckou Keita and Ballaké Sissoko.- I will soon comment on everyone's music selection, hopefully by the weekend.- I'm glad you like jazz, it's one of my favourite music genres! Which instrument do you play? Thanks for the Nawal El Zoghbi song! Btw. sometime ago we had a poll about music from the Mediterranean region and a poll about Asia that includes also a few Mediterranen countries. If you're interested I can give you the the playlists. |
Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: September 08 2022 at 20:55
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Hi Mila-13 Now that you mention the 12 strings, that makes perfect sense about the harplike (many note) aspect. Interesting! Regarding the Mediterranean and near East music, I would very much like to see those lists, thank you. As far as instruments go, I play electric and classical nylon-stringed guitar. I also enjoy programming electronic music to a certain extent. Mostly, I enjoy composition (especially a good chord progression). The difficult part is trying to somehow approximate what I’m hearing in my head. I really do not enjoy recording. Jazz chords are complex and fun. I like altered chords, interesting chord voicings, chords with missing notes, and mimicking impossible to reach chords by using alternate tunings. I’m impressed by people who can do jazz improvisation because I completely lack that gene, instead building songs note by note. Jazz, to me, is taking the classical structure of music, and then bending and breaking the rules. To that end, I enjoy listening to jazz and fusion greats like Joe Pass, Django Reinhardt, Wes Montgomery, Allan Holdsworth, Stanley Jordan, Phil Keaggy, and Al Di Meola, to name a few. Sadly, some on that list are no longer with us. Well, on to the next grouping! I’m thinking I might actually fulfill my commitment to Logan this time before I get sidetracked again.
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Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: September 08 2022 at 21:45
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Mathman, serving up some great rock tunes in a good evolutionary progression. Sci Fi Metal - Alternative Guitar Rock - Space Rock. My meandering thoughts are below. Warrior - Fighting for the Earth Definitely getting the Dio “Last in Line” vibe on this. It’s a relatively simple tune in terms of structure, but what kicks it up several notches is that the vocals are simply amazing, and the guitar solo works well, too. I enjoyed it immensely. I also have a soft spot for sci fi metal. Pretty Maids - Future World from the 1980s still gives me chills. https://youtu.be/dXmTXU5-3AI Here’s something amusing. That Trans X tune is essentially the same progression as Rainbow in the Dark by Dio. A mashup would be: “It’s like a rainbow in the dark! … living on video … just a rainbow in the dark … integrated circuits.” :-) Rust - Not Today This seems like the bridge between grunge and post-punk of the early 2000s. There were a number of interesting bands doing this sort of thing. Deep Blue Something, Semisonic. Not as commercial as the Blink 182, Third Eye Blind folks, not quite as heavy as Foo Fighters or Green Day or Collective Soul. Not quite as punk as Lit or Eve6. This one has a bit more of an Americana feel, with just a toe dipping in the waters of the Blue Mountain, Uncle Tupelo, Son Volt crowd. I like it! Mantra Machine - Andromeda This is neat. I enjoyed its laid back feel. It reminds me a bit of the resonator guitar sound of Hawkwind (that’s going back a bit!) played over a clever groove. Some of the background riffs (scaly bits) are a bit in the vein of King’s X, but dialed back in intensity. All very cool! I think I enjoyed the last one the most. Sad that it has so few views and reviews. But, am happy I got to hear this needle in a haystack! Thanks for bringing them to our attention. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 09 2022 at 03:00
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Thanks a lot for the comments! Much appreciated. I listened to a bit of Placebo at the time but they didn't quite click with me. I may revisit them. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: September 10 2022 at 06:41
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Mila 1) Young Gods are very angry and beat up like thugs. I have the impression that they should mature. 2) Jobarteh and Pasborg offer us a very percussive post-rock song that proceeds with great inertia, with a center piece with a very rough guitar and a composition at the limit of the jam session. The most interesting part of this song is the sound of the instruments. In these cases, I miss the singing: if they had managed to fit it with the music they would have done a superlative job. But the piece remains very, very intelligent, refined and inspired, almost a masterpiece. 3) Johanna Burnheart: Silence is Golden - interesting song, also based on the search for new sounds. The best part is the initial instrumental one, then when the singing arrives it doesn't find the right fit but the song proceeds and becomes a disco-dance contaminated with South American sounds (bossanova?). Very good, even if a little too self-indulgent. The second and third song contend for the vote, but the second is more unassailable and homogeneous than the third. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 10 2022 at 07:03
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So, I've got a second listen to all of the nominated tracks. Not always easy to make a final choice. I didn't comment yet on Greg's trio (I commented on his first one...): They're all three great listens and nice discoveries, but somehow, to me, they also have each their flaws, to my ears. I love the beginning of the Shibusashirazu Orchestra track, but then - indeed - it gets very busy. A bit too busy, to many notes on a square foot, imo. I very much like Mid-Air Thief track (atmospheric, yes!), but after a kind of climax at just over 5 minutes, what follows doesn't add much to it. On the contrary, it makes it a bit dragging on... A pity, because it really sounds good. Pana-visoin by The Smile is also a good listen, but it has the handicap that it sounds maybe a bit too much like Radiohead (especially the singer seems to imitate Tom Yorke, but maybe he has just a similar voice...). As said, each has it's great qualities, but I'm not over-enthusiastic by them either... My final verdict for all selections: - Lewian: Upon second listen I even appreciated more Shudder to Think, but in the end it is a toss-up between Kante and Stephen Fellows. I'll go with the latter. - Jaketas: For me, the stand out song is Nicolette Larson's one. -Mila: The Young Gods gained upon a second listen, but it remains between Jobarthe & Pasborg and Johanna Burnheart. I'm voting for Jobarthe & Pasborg's track. - mathman: as already stated in my comments, Mantra Machine takes this one away. - jamesbaldwin: La Crus is the stand-out one for me. From Conte and Guccini you have made us listen to better and more original tracks, imo. - Logan: Despite the too long/lingering ending, I'll vote for Mid-Air Thief. It was an interesting new concept for these interactive polls and - of course - a great listen again, overall. Thanks to all! ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: September 10 2022 at 18:16
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mathman: 1) Warrior: I have a slight suspicion that this is a heavy metal song, do you know the obsessive electric guitar riffs? The shouted singing? 2) Rust: a nice grunge track. Good singing. I like grunge more than heavy for this reason, the singers are more refined. The song lacks the dynamism to be really good, but it remains a nice piece. 3) Post-rock instrumental track, space rock? Very dilated. Which do I prefer? I don't know.... HMMMM ....between the second and third I choose the second piece. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: September 10 2022 at 18:38
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Logan 1) Band instrumental track that reaches a very emphatic cacophony after passing from psychedelic folk and space rock. Possibly, a piece like this, performed in the late sixties or seventies would have been less verbose and less pumped up. It remains a very original and syncretic song, very "free" and "freak". 2) Minimalist min-suite, in fact arranged in the opposite way to the previous piece, here the subtle and refined touch, the ethereal sounds, the ecstatic voices are privileged, with the experimental research of dissonant sounds on the border between acoustic and electronic. Very well executed. 3) Atmospheric movie song with good vocal performance, minimalistic, more conventional than previous pieces. All three songs were a listening that created a lot of curiosity. The second wins ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: September 10 2022 at 19:40
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James Baldwin! I found some uninterrupted time to have a listen to your picks. La Crus: Lontano (1995) I love it! I’m a big fan of trumpet, and this is both sophisticated albeit a bit melancholic. It is difficult to come up with an analogy for this one. Probably the closest song I can come up with is Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty, but that featured a melancholic saxophone. Paulo Conte - Frisco When you say retro, this one is very retro, with perhaps influences from the 1930s to 1960s. This reminds me of post WW2 jazz, like Edith Piaf. Francesco Guccini - L'ultima Thule I really enjoy songs that tell a story (as you can tell from my pick of Dead Man’s Curve). As soon as this one began, I immediately thought of a jaunty seafaring tune. It is a song with a great deal of intensity in the vocals. (By the way, I’m not kidding. I still know all the lyrics to The Devil Went Down to Georgia). Thank you for posting the lyrics! I think the first song probably resonated with me the most, although I really like all 3! |
Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: September 10 2022 at 22:17
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Finally, our host … Logan! Some very interesting pieces here. Shibusashirazu Orchestra - Akkan There is a great deal of virtuoso playing and the sounds at first hearken back to an ancient time and a faraway place. Then saxophone comes in and I really wasn’t expecting that. Mid-Air Thief - Crumbling Together This is a lovely piece of music. I visited Korea around this time and bought some CDs of K-Pop and traditional music, but this is altogether different. The guitar playing reminds me a bit of Francis Cabrel or Pierre Bensusan. The Smile - Pana-vision At different points in the song, I sense influences of U2, Coldplay, and Radiohead. I’ll go with Mid-Air Thief! It has a New Age-y warmth about it. |
Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: September 10 2022 at 22:27
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Thanks again for the tunes. Nice topic! Votes are now recorded.
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: September 11 2022 at 01:03
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Nena
and Indochine, two living legends, wherein the latter is known mostly in the
French speaking world. Along with Noir Désir they are major exponents of French
rock, both bands founded in the early 1980s. I especially enjoyed here your humorous
accompanying backstory, that explains your personal reference to your choices! :)
Kaboom
Karavan is a real find for me! This guy (another talented Belgian) creates a musical universe of his own. With an
experimental approach he combines acoustic instruments and electronics in a quite unique way. I
listened to the entire album and I enjoyed in particular those a bit calmer
tracks where imo the quality of this work comes into its own even better. My
favourite of yours is: Kaboom Karavan. Christian The suggested acts are all new to me. Shudder to Think draw upon a wide range of stylistic influences of rock music, whereby the influence of punk rock with a grungy undertone is clearly recognisable. This style is pretty much down my alley. The musical style of
the chosen track by Stephen Fellows is difficult to assess for me since I’m not
familiar with his former band. This track is designed in a rather minimalistic style. Fellows creates with few means an intimate, laidback and dreamy atmosphere, like in a
solo home recording. I find the style of
Kante’s quietly flowing blend of post and krautrock with German lyrics quite
captivating. The lyrics are poetic and thoughtful and become one with the music
which creates a special atmosphere. My favourite of yours
is: Kante Gary What I like most about
your song selection is that they reflect clearly the sound of the respective decades and this with artists or band that not everyone would know. Well done! I like all your
selections but musically, Nicolette Larson’s song convinces me the most, with
its rich instrumentation and Nicolette’s wonderful voice. No wonder that Neil Young chose her as a duet partner! The song is a successful
blend of pop rock and soul, I would say. This combination is rather rare, especially
because it comes from a ‘white band’. I really like it! My favourite of yours is: Nicolette Larson & Band Btw. Greg's band 'The Smile' is actually the 'new Radiohead'. It's a new project consisting i.a. of Thom Yorke and Jonny Greenwood. p.s. I will get back to you regarding our conversation above but since I'm a bit late, I would like to post the rest of my comments first. Greg On the other hand we
have Mid-Air Thief who’s music is rather calm, a mix of pop, folk and
electronic music with elements of psychedelic rock (in the broader sense) that creates a flowing and
dreamy atmosphere. The Smile is a new project
mainly comprising the Radiohead members Thom Yorke and Jonny Greenwood. Their
music is undoubtedly of high quality, but it differs little from the well-known
Radiohead style imo, at least in this song. The first two tracks
are great, each in its own way, though the former appeals to me a bit more in
terms of genre. I read that this group is actually a multidisciplinary artist's collective including butoh dancers and other performance artists, which is quite exciting! My favourite of yous
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 11 2022 at 04:23
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^ Thanks for your comments, Mila. Glad you like Kaboom Karavan's album. Don't hesitate to explore his other albums; good chance you will like them too (I especially like A Short Walk With Olaf). ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: September 11 2022 at 05:15
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I had written last night, but it looks like I forgot to hit the post button (it was late). I am going through slowly and am through the first two trios. For Kees's trio, I liked all three in their own ways. And at the time of my post/vote the tribal 80s sound of Nena edged out Kaboom Karavan. For Christian's trio, again, I like all three. With Shudder to Think, it was more the underlying music and the angular crunch of the guitar. I got distracted by the semi-beat poetry like delivery of the vocals, which led me to think of Mike Myers in So I Married an Axe Murderer. So, I was between the last two, and voted for Stephen Fellows. The vocals stuck with me and quite enjoyed the underlayer of music that creeps in. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: September 11 2022 at 09:20
| Third set from Jaketejas (Gary). I remember all three. I saw a made for TV biopic on Jan and Dean in the late 70s with Richard Hatch (Apollo in the original Battlestar Galactica) as Jan. I know I have heard Lotta Love by Nicolette Larson before probably back in my AM radio days, but didn't know who the artist was. I never made the connection that it was the Neil Young song until now. I haven't heard the Trans-X song since whenever it came out in the 80s. All three songs are very representative of their decades. My preference goes with Lotta Love. |
Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: September 11 2022 at 18:03
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Thanks for all the comments! I have a vague memory of that biopic and the story of the comeback of Jan after the horrific car accident that left him with brain damage. The original Battlestar Galactica and Buck Rogers. I remember both very well. Nostalgia! Good times.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 13 2022 at 03:32
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Not much time to write I'm afraid but I start voting by giving it to Kaboom Karavan (somewhat predictably even though I really like that Nena track... I had forgotten how good it is, I listened to the album a lot at the time), and Nicolette Larson - great song very well delivered. Living on Video is quite iconic though. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 13 2022 at 03:51
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Very strong selection by Mila, not much between these. I like them all. I vote for Johanna Burnheart. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 13 2022 at 03:57
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Very clear ranking among George's stuff though, Mantra Machine very good, Rust OK, Warrior not my cup of tea. |